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yatosponytail · 7 years

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My thoughts on the potential “ships” for the spin off series

Well, it looks like SJM has just created one of the biggest shit storms I’ve ever seen in the FINALE of a series. Between blowing holes in one and creating the most confusing love pentagon that may or may not come into play, this was a mess. Let me try to break it down:

ELUCIEN: I’m going to be straight up honest here and say I love this ship. I was actually thinking about it even before the ending of ACOMAF where it was revealed *gasp* they were mates.

why I do think they would work together: I always thought Elain and Lucien would be a good match because they were both tenderhearted and sweet. I know a lot of people see Lucien as snarky and sassy, but I’ve always seen that as his shield. Back in the first book after hearing what Lucien’s father did to his partner, Feyre even states that she now understands why Lucien acts the way he does and builds up walls to keep people out. It was more of a mask, a way to protect himself after being hurt by his family and even Tamlin over the years. Deep down, he’s actually extremely softhearted and always trying to make others happy before himself. Elain is similarly softhearted (although ACOWAR definitely showed us she can be quite unpredictable at times) Yes, Elain is also the opposite of Jesminda, but I think a more gentle-hearted person would be suited to help both of them heal from their pasts.

my predictions: after finishing ACOWAR, i’m not going to lie: I feel like I’m sailing aboard the Titanic. There were just so many possible “hints” foreshadowing that SJM is going to make Elucien an example of the mating bond being wrong (not going to lie that this sort of pisses me off though. It’s just extremely convenient that all but two sets of parents we never met, the mating bond is always 100% right. Like shit, people have already suspected that Nessian might be mates and there was the whole thing with Kallias loving Viviane for years and as soon as he came back and they did the do THEY JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE MATES >:U Don’t try to ex machina 99% of the time and then try to teach me a lesson with that one percent) There’s also the fact that I s2g SJM knows who my favourite characters are and loves to screw with them *coughcoughchaolanddoriancoughcough*

BUT ALAS, there were some looks and moments that leave me with some small inkling of hope.

VASSIEN: Even if Elriel ends up being canon, I REALLLLY (atm, i might change my mind, but probably not :P) don’t want it to end up as one of those “well I can’t leave poor Lucien alone so I created a love interest just for him” (here’s looking at you, Chaol novel :I)

why I’m not for this ship: I think a lot of people believe Vassa and Lucien would work because she seems to be similar to Jesminda, but that just seems weird. Why would you want to be with someone who reminds you of your dead lover? Lucien describes her as someone with a “foul temper and foul mouth” and suggests Vassa and Feyre would get along quite well. Which a) just made me think that she’s similar to Feyre and as much as I love my lovely brotp, i don’t even crack ship that shit and b) made me think she’s going to be a similar version to Aelin, especially with all the fire queen parallels and shit. Like i said earlier, I feel like the Lucien I think of (I know everyone interprets characters in their own way) is someone who is more kind hearted and soft than the snarky bastard he may appear as sometimes. It’s really weird for me to think of Lucien in a relationship like Feysand and Nessian where there’s snarky banter and retorts and it’s highly sexual (even though I know there’s that whole fire dick meme going around lol) when I think of him as my cinnamon roll and see him being in that cute fluff ship. I can’t speak on if she’d be good for Lucien to help him with his past since we know next to nothing about her as she came in on the last 20 pages and most of what we heard was from others, but so far I’m not seeing what they’d really have in common unless she has some evil parents that killed her lover or something. There could also be potential problems since isn’t Vassa human? Is Lucien destined to repeat the cycle of sadness his whole life???? I also feel like it’s going to be one of those “whelp he needs a love interest” type of ships like I said earlier.

my predictions: Knowing SJM and how she likes to write (since 95% of the time she’s pretty predictable and uses a ton of recycled themes from her other series and vice versa :P) this will more than likely end up canon. The whole set up for the spin off is taking care of the queens and now I guess, breaking Vassa’s curse (way to set that one up at the end of the last book) There were also just smaller hints of Lucien blushing when talking about her and the whole “we’re both fire” parallels that just screamed cheesy set up to me. OFC I want Lucien to be happy seeing as he’s my favourite, but every time I say that it always ends up backfiring on me so now I’m just going to be selfish and say not here for this BYE.

ELRIEL: My feelings on Elriel are sort of a middle ground. I don’t love it, but I don’t hate it like I do with Vassien.

my feelings overall: OFC I ship Elucien, but I would be alright with it if Elain and Azriel ended up together. The moments they had in the books were pretty cute and I feel like they’re somewhat similar and Azriel understands what Elain is going through. Ironically enough, I feel like Azriel and Lucien are quite similar. They both lost a loved one (sort of different circumstances obviously, but you catch my drift) They’re both kind and self sacrificing and can be snarky/sassy at times and they both have really fathers and brothers. Honestly, I was hoping for some bromance, but hell if that’s going to happen if this does end up being a fuckfest of love triangles. Cause even if they both choose other people, Elain and Lucien are always going to be mates (unless SJM pulls some haha just kidding I just made you think they were mates shit like with the whole Rowan thing in TOG) and it’d probably be an awkward time.

My biggest problems with this ship have more to do with the fact that a) who the fuck even knows if he was doing all that because he liked her or just because he was being a nice person and knew how she felt and b) Azriel has spent literal centuries wanting to be with Mor and for him to just be like “whelp guess it’s time to move on” would be in poor taste.

A) Nothing really hinted at being anything other than friends. I mean, Azriel did give his blade to someone which he’s never done, but I also can interpret that as him just understanding Elain and seeing himself in bits of her. Elain kissed him on the cheek after he saved her which isn’t really that crazy of a thing to do. I don’t remember it saying he blushed or did anything that would interpret it as more. Even more so, when Elain was kidnapped Azriel didn’t go crazy with worry. Just comparing how brashly he acted when Eris just insulted her and Elain being taken it just didn’t seem like he cared for her beyond that of a friend. Ofc it could still be that it is more or could be something in the future, but during ACOWAR there was nothing beyond the fact that Feyre thought they’d be better together and a few kind gestures to really hint at anything more.

B) Obviously Moriel isn’t going to happen (even if she is sort of hinted at as bisexual, she made it clear she couldn’t love him fully the way he needs and deserves to be) but that doesn’t mean it’s completely swept under the rug. Az still doesn’t even know these facts so I doubt he’s even started to think about finding someone else. And even after he does find out, he’s still going to need a shit ton of down time. Like i said before, for him to just move on would be in poor taste. ( I think the whole situation with Feyre and Rhys was quite different than this so don’t try to come at me with comparisons there) This guy has been in the ?? zone for 5 centuries and one does not just move on in a month. And the same goes for Elain even if she ends up with Lucien, she is also still in love with that dickwad Grayson and they both have to deal with their unrequited loves.

predictions: Like I said, I have a feeling SJM will be using the whole “some mates are’t meant for each other” and if that happens, she’s gonna pair them with other people. The mostly likely for Elain would obviously be Azriel. All the points I made here also give me hope that maybe Sarah is just setting this up as a red herring so that we don’t go into the next books confident we already know what will happen but at the same time I feel like that’s giving SJM a lot of credit where I don’t think she’s been great at. I can never really tell with her “foreshadowing” because a lot of it comes off as very clumsily done in my opinion. Even with the most complex of stories, when you finally figure out the twist and look back it should be quite obvious with all the hints and foreshadowing, but I feel like with SJM’s works it just makes you wayyyyyy too confused. Like I never really saw the Mor being lesbian/bisexual thing coming. I don’t remember anything that would have hinted at it except Rita’s which was pretty vague if you ask me :P I reread ACOMAF before ACOWAR came out and there was just so many things that seemed like Mor did like Azriel and it was him and his own self worth problems that were stopping them. I guess maybe you could call that a red herring, but a) I think giving hope to people who obviously seriously shipped this when there was literally none was a pretty shit move and b) it’s still a pretty sad version of one. Honestly, if it wasn’t for Vassa I’d feel a bit more in the middle, but the fact that Vassa is there just screams that this is how things will go down, but who knows, maybe that’s a red herring too.

Now there’s also other things I want to address. I felt like there was a lot of hinting that Eris could play a big part in the spin off series too. This is sort of a crack idea, but I do seem to recall Eris being intrigued by Nesta quite a bit and I wonder if SJM wants to really fuck with people and have him try to get with Nesta or something lololol. Or maybe he just wants her powers (if she still has them) or will come into play to fuck with Lucien some more. Only time will tell, but does anyone else feel like he was being pointed out quite a bit and that hinted at something??

There’s also the question of Mor and if she’ll get a love interest (if she finally comes out to everyone) and if Elucien is canon *pleasebookgodsgivemepeaceofmind* what does that mean for Mor and Vassa?

I’ve heard people suggest possibly Vassa and Mor? I guess I can’t say too much about that since we don’t know much bout her, but it seems interesting. Although once again, Mor was once in love with a queen/human so that might be problematic.

There was also that one human girl Briar which I feel like will play an important part. It just seems weird to go to that much trouble of saving her and naming her to just have her be some random that never comes into play again.

AND FINALLY: Tamlin. A ton of people are obviously going to hate Tamlin regardless, but I think SJM wrote his interaction and redemption (especially that one part) really well. Feyre’s last words to him are for him tofind happiness too and although not everyone needs to end up with someone, this is a romance series and that’s just how things tend to end up.

OVERALL THOUGHTS: Although I’m excited for more books and spending more tie with these characters and this world I’m also fucking terrified that SJM will somehow manage to make me hate it. For me, the TOG series has just been drained of the things I previously loved about it and I mainly just plan to keep reading since I came this far with it. I don’t want this series to end up like that. This series has been such a joy and breathe of fresh air and I would hate to see it go downhill. The hints at love triangles has really dampened my excitement, I’m not going to lie. I hate getting emotionally invested in a pairing to just watch it turn out to be nothing. It starts conflict within the fandom and is just honestly a shit time in general for everyone. Although I still have hope -- always.

Thanks for reading this mess of a post and I’m sorry for any grammer errors because I’m a lazy fuck who doesn’t want to spend time going over and correcting it. I hope I got everything across okay because sometimes I have a hard time putting why I love things into words (I’m pretty good with the things I hate though lol) Feel free to message me if you want to discuss anything mentioned in this post.

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