#o-kimochi yakuza

[sunsinourhands]

So I have been thinking about what factors of media and stories that give me the largest sense of longing. And I think it comes down to three major things: a sense of community (in group), a sense of potency, and a sense of hope. And for the sake of this post I will be referencing mostly anime but also live play tabletop series.

Nakama

So when I say a sense of community or in group, it is usually referenced as ‘nakama’ within Japanese. This is usually translated as ‘friends’ in English but that doesn’t really fit the actual meaning. This is the group of people who are your inner most circle. These are the people who will put themselves at considerable risk in order to help another member. In shonen series like the Dragon Ball franchise, Fairy Tail, and One Peace, this means frequently putting your actual life on the line. It’s the same as a party in tabletop dungeon crawler.

One good point of reference for this is Laios and Shuro’s relationship. They were not on the same page. Yes they worked together often in the same party’s but Laios thought they were nakama, and Shuro was just too polite and conflict avoidant to tell Laios that he hated him. Like their perception was completely mismatched. Laios thought they were ride or die for life and Shuro thought of Laios as an annoying coworker—which explains a lot of Laios’s negative feelings following that reveal.

I saw a post on here recently about the big difference between Lucy Heartfillia’s relationships with the people in her home vs her guild nakama. The people who worked for her parents were obligated / forced to engage with her. And her father was pretty bad pre timeskip. In the same way, her spirits were contracted with her, so they HAD to show up when she called. But her guild mates and especially her core team mates looked out for her both out of a sense of duty and an actual sense of affection and protection over a member of their found family. And that’s another big difference between nakama and anything else.

In contrast, a lot of people in real life don’t have anything like that. Many of us come from abusive or otherwise unloving families. Many of us were not protected by bullies by anyone. And many of us are slowly learning that many of our friendships were one way and we were either tolerated as the butt monkey or kept around to be exploited. Hell, I broke off a friendship of over 10 years earlier this fall because I realized that the person I thought of as my ‘nakama’ didn’t actually care about my feelings—and they only wanted me as a WOC accessory to confirm their leftist clout.

I cannot count how many friendships I have seen and in a really nasty betrayal, and many people keep a very firm distance these days. You have to. And it is very difficult to find any community that actually acts in a pro-social way, because a lot of people actively prey on groups like that. Or people are actively only out for their own interests to begin with.

I would also note that some people are not intending to be malicious I m, but that they were never taught or modeled how to be an actually good person underneath the surface level. So they are fundamentally incapable of it—and many are too uncomfortable with that idea that they will never grow out of it. Ego integrity is one hell of a drug. Plenty of people would also rather be keyboard warriors and engage in revolutionary LARPing than vote or grow some fucking carrots. They would rather blame everyone else, instead of look at how they have become additional bullies in their own communities.

Personal examples : the half dozen bad actors in my local mutual aid group that actively exploited the group to farm money. There is also the supposedly ‘good person’ card-carrying woke WOC head of the local no-Nazis farmers market who embezzled 800k and never paid the farmers—causing several to shutter permanently. Including multiple farmers of color who were already operating in the red in order to donate food to the needy in that same community.

I would put forward that existing without an actual support network is so fucking painful and difficult that this is a core part of the wish fulfillment you find in media.

Sense of Potency

No, not that kind. I’m talking about the concept of knowing that your actions have a measurable effect on your environment. It’s both having a skill or ability that you know can be applied to fix something unpleasant, make something better, and the experience knowing that it has done so in the past and faith it will do so in the future.

This can include the battle strength of any shonen character, or Chilchuck’s skill with traps, locks, and generally being stealthy. In fiction, people generally have an idea of how they can help and how much help that will be. In a tabletop game, this is knowing that your presence is VALUABLE and that both people can rely on you and they will make the choice to do so instead of mistrusting you. For example, everyone knows that Bulma Briefs can basically fix any technology or science related problem. She can also just throw money at it. Sensei WILL be able to cook whatever the fuck is found and killed.

But real life is a consistently fresh and more intense hell of people devaluing your efforts, your experience, and your value. I cannot explain the degree of emotional damage I took after graduating with my masters and being offered $12 an hour for a company I knew very well was charging people at least $120 an hour to see me.

Undergraduate degrees don’t get anyone shit these days. And they are prohibitively expensive on top of that. People with decades of experience and skills can no longer put food on their tables. Dudes with a Chat GPT subscription think they are artists. Art theft, plagiarism, and other forms of outright stealing are rampant. There is a huge sense of impotence and powerlessness inundating every fucking second of our lives.

Can I fix an issue? Fuck if I know. Probably not, because I can’t go up against Johnson and Johnson. The power imbalance is outrageous.

Many times when people try to organize, some plant or someone who decides to break the line ends up fucking over the whole thing—because somehow they think they are special and identify far more with the oppressing billionaires.

Despite the existence of people who do have good intentions, no one has the fucking time for others anymore. Everyone is too depressed, too burned out, and too busy scraping by the skin of their own teeth to do anything else.

So the idea that hard work, persistence, and maybe some cleverness, may actually yield results? A literal fantasy.

A Sense of Hope

This is something I always found very foreign after a certain age. People in media seem to have this ingrained knowledge that 100% good times and better days lay ahead after the struggle.

But for those of us geriatric millennials, it’s been one blow after another. Those of us who busted our asses to get a degree because that would guarantee a future? Hahaha. Yeah fucking right.

Hope is a hard thing to maintain. Maybe it would be easier if you could count on the people around you or an actual support network. But people drop each other over nothing—and I am not even going to get into the o-kimochi yakuza.

[chibidarkness1111]

Archived link as well

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[is-the-owl-video-cute]

https://www.tumblr.com/littlegoldfinchh/744225222041960448

It’s genuinely amazing to me, like actually, completely stunning, that people think supporting pedo shit somehow makes them smarter than and superior to anyone who knows that that’s creepy as fuck.

Like they actually think that supporting pedophilic ships or whatever makes them better people and everyone who thinks pedophilia is harmful is just “prissy” or “fragile” or “making their personal issues an actual problem.”

It’s insane. Genuinely fucking out of touch with reality

Going to be honest the weeb vibes these people give off too is just insufferable.

There’s already an English version of this term proships love throwing around, that would be “thought police”. Saying “feelings yakuza” instead just brings to mind grown white men wielding a katana they have never even been trained to hold correctly let alone use. Saying “o-kimochi yakuza” is a great invitation for me to slap you.

I would be less bothered if it weren’t apparent that half the reason they’re interested in Japan is the simple fact loli/shota porn is a very easy means to get their child sexualization for free online.

[animeomelette]

I should try to get less annoyed by inane online discourse but it's difficult when so much of it really just serves as a means of making people uncomfortable to talk about genuinely important difficult real-world issues out of fear of getting libeled to hell by the o-kimochi yakuza

[veemopusvulgaris]

"American Feelings Yakuza" Or "Mind Mafiah" is actually the translation of the word japanese people use to refer to people who harass others over fiction (I think it was o-kimochi yakuza but I can't remember). Japanese artists have started mass blocking people with "proship dni" in case they're harassers because one artist who got harassed wrote a PSA about it. Basically some anti used the fact that they don't speak English well and they followed some problematic artist to mass slander them for months and the JP artists said "absolutely not, Feelings Yakuza"

cool i still think the phrase and ppl who use it are corny as hell tho

[rubiaryutheroyal]

Ring (Maji Spec Edition)

Here’s another fave song of mine that came from Yakuza 5, now with twice the madness.

As usual, thanks to my trusty FFT site for song lyric translations. I’m here with translated interjections.

Japanese romaji lyrics:

Majima: setsu na uta Ring, kiitekure

Yuki (Kiryu & Majima): omedetou mo (happy) arigatou mo (thank you) uso ja nai hazu na no ni (kokoro kara no omoi / uh-hah) doushite konna ni mune ga kurushii no? (soba ni iru no ga why ore janai? / yeah yeah)

sayounara mo (goodbye) gomen nasai mo (sorry) hikizuru kono kimochi mo (kowaresou na my mind / uh-hah) utsusanai kurai ni kagayaiteiru kusuriyubi no ring (ore o azawarau you ni kagayaku ring / uh-hah...)

Yuki: kadode wo irodoru shufuku no kane no ne wa

Yuki (Kiryu & Majima): marude houkago no chime mitai ni hibiita (ring ring)

Yuki: chikai no kuchizuke nariyamu koto nai hakushu sono naka de boku wa

Yuki (Kiryu & Majima): donna egao shiten darou (mucha na makin’ smile / ring ring)

Yuki:  shiawase sou na kimi wo miteru dake de boku mo shiawase ni nareru to

Yuki (Kiryu & Majima): omoetara ii no ni (ore mo nanka mo shoppai / ring ring ring...)

omedetou mo (happy) arigatou mo (thank you) uso ja nai hazu na no ni (kokoro kara no negai / uh-hah) doushite konna ni mune ga kurushii no? (soba ni iru no ga why ore janai? / yeah yeah)

sayounara mo (goodbye) gomen nasai mo (sorry) hikizuru kono kimochi mo (kowaresou na my mind / uh-hah)

Yuki: utsusanai kurai ni kagayaiteiru kusuriyubi no ring

Majima: love magic wa toke wa shinai

Kiryu: tamaranai na uta ue de

Majima: yeah yeah yeah yeah

Yuki: sayonara no kiss wa amazuppaku nanka nakute coffee mitai ni

Yuki (Majima): nigai namida aji (ahah ahah...)

Yuki: kimi to mita keshiki wo eiga film no you ni surikirete shimau made

Yuki (Kiryu): replay shite iku (ore mo nanka mo shoppai)

Yuki (Majima & Kiryu): aishiteta mo (happy) aishiteru mo (thank you) tsutaetai hazu na no ni (kokoro kara no negai / uh-hah) nani mo iezu tachitsukushiteiru dake (soba ni iru no ga why ore janai? / yeah yeah)

kore kara saki (goodbye) kimi ijou ni (sorry) dare ka wo suki ni nareru no? (kowaresou na my mind / uh-hah)

Yuki:  kanashii kurai ni (ring ring ring...) kirei ni hikaru kusuriyubi no ring

Kiryu: uta de tsumugu, kokoro no kizuna

Majima: love magic wa toke wa shinai

Kiryu: jikyuu wa marui, sugoku marui!

Yuki: boku no hou ga suki da to aitsu yori mo suki da to kimi no koto ga suki da to ieta nara donna ni ii

shukufuku no kane ga nari kimi wa kiss wo shiteiru hakushu tsuzukeru boku wa otona ni natta ne

Majima: love magic wa toke wa shinai

Yuki: shiawase sou na kimi wo miteru dake de boku mo shiawase ni nareru to omoetara ii no ni

Yuki (Majima & Kiryu): omedetou mo (happy) arigatou mo (thank you) uso ja nai hazu na no ni (kokoro kara no negai / uh-hah) doushite konna ni mune ga kurushii no? (soba ni iru no ga why ore janai? / yeah yeah)

sayounara mo (goodbye) gomen nasai mo (sorry) hikizuru kono kimochi mo (kowaresou na my mind / uh-hah) utsusanai kurai ni (ring ring ring...) kagayaiteiru kusuriyubi no ring

Kiryu (Majima): I’ll never forget you (ah-hah) isshou wasurenai (ah-hah) kimi e no love to kono mune no pain (ah-hah) omoi tsugerenai (ah-hah) tomeru sube mo nai (ah-hah) ore o azawarau you ni kagayaku ring (ahah ahah ring ring ring...)

English lyrics:

Majima: An earnest song Ring, please take a listen

Yuki (Majima & Kiryu): "Congratulations" (Happy) and "thank you" (Thank you) shouldn't be a lie (Feelings from the heart / Uh-hah) So why does it hurt so much? (Why is that not me beside you? / Yeah yeah)

"Goodbye", (Goodbye) "I'm sorry" (Sorry) or these feelings I drag along with me (I’m losing my mind / Uh-hah) Shining so brightly that it doesn't reflect them the ring on your ring finger (The ring sparkles as if mocking me / Yeah yeah)

Yuki: The chimes of blessing that heralded the beginning of your new life

Yuki (Majima & Kiryu): resounded like the after school chime (Ring ring)

Yuki: As you sealed your vow with a kiss amidst the incessant applause what kind of smile

Yuki (Majima & Kiryu): was I wearing? (Absurdly makin’ smile / Ring ring)

Yuki: I wish I could think that just seeing you happy would be enough

Yuki (Majima & Kiryu): to make me happy, too (Me and my all are salty / Ring ring ring...)

"Congratulations" (Happy) and "thank you" (Thank you) shouldn't be a lie (Wishes from the heart) So why does it hurt so much? (Why is that not me beside you? / Yeah yeah)

"Goodbye", (Goodbye) "I'm sorry" (Sorry) or these feelings I drag along with me (I’m losing my mind / Uh-hah)

Yuki: Shining so brightly that it doesn't reflect the ring on your ring finger

Majima: Love magic is never undone

Kiryu: In a soul-crushing song

Majima: Yeah yeah yeah yeah

Yuki: Our goodbye kiss wasn't bittersweet but bitter like coffee

Yuki (Majima): the taste of tears (ahah ahah...)

Yuki: The scenes we saw together like the film of a movie replay in my mind

Yuki (Kiryu): until they wear out (Me and my all are salty)

Yuki (Majima & Kiryu): I loved you, (Happy) that I still do (Thank you) I should want to tell you that (Wishes from the heart) but I'm just standing here unable to say a word (Why is that not me beside you? / Yeah yeah)

Will I ever be (Goodbye) able to love anyone (Sorry) more than I love you? (I’m losing my mind / uh-hah) Sparkling prettily enough to be sad (Ring ring ring...) the ring on your ring finger

Kiryu: Spin a tale in song, the bonds of the heart

Majima: Love magic is never undone

Kiryu: The world is round, extremely round!

Yuki: "I'm the one who loves you" "I love you more than him" "I love you", if I had said so how much better would it be?

The chimes of blessing sound out you're kissing as I continue to clap I've matured, haven't I?

Majima: Love magic is never undone

Yuki: I wish I could think that just seeing you happy would be enough to make me happy, too

Yuki (Majima & Kiryu): "Congratulations" (Happy) and "thank you" (Thank you) shouldn't be a lie (Wishes from the heart) So why does it hurt so much? (Why is that not me beside you? / Yeah yeah)

"Goodbye", (Goodbye) "I'm sorry" (Sorry) or these feelings I drag along with me (I’m losing my mind) Shining so brightly that it doesn't reflect (Ring ring ring...) the ring on your ring finger

Kiryu (Majima): I’ll never forget you (Ah-hah) not ever forever (ah-hah) My love for you or this pain in my heart (ah-hah) I can’t say my feelings (Ah-hah) and I can’t stop you (ah-hah) The ring sparkles as if mocking me (Ahah ahah ring ring ring...)

[fanningourself]

Anime/Series/Manga/Played Watched/Read/Played

Boku No Hero Academia (S1/S2)

One Punch Man (S1)

Inuyasha (COMPLETE + Rewatching - Stuck on 109-111 (?))

Fairy Tail (Stuck on 227-230 (?))

Hetalia (S1/S2/S3/S4/S5/S6/Extra Episode/Specials/Pain it, White)

Horimiya (Continue from ?)

Kuroko No Basuke (S1/S2 (?))

Black Bulter (Rewatch)

Free! (S1/S2)

Agame no Asobi

Storm Lover (Kai!!)

Hakuouki (S1/S2/Demon of the Fleeting Village [GAME])

Diabolik Lovers (S1)

Uta no Prince (S1/S2/S3)

No Game No Life (Watch E8)

Ouran Highschool Host Club (COMPLETE)

Wallflower (COMPLETE)

Mystic Messenger (Continue)

Dear School Gang Leader (Reread)

Romeo x Juliet (COMPLETE)

Noragami (S1 - Rewatch)

My Little Monster/Tonari no Kaibutsu-Kun (COMPLETE)

Say I love you (COMPLETE)

K-Project (S1)

Kaichou Wa Maid-Sama (COMPLETE)

Mekaku City Actors (COMPLETE)

Karneval (COMPLETE)

Code Breaker (COMPLETE)

Brother Conflict (COMPLETE)

Brave10 (COMPLETE)

Blood Lad (COMPLETE)

Akatsuki no Yona (COMPLETE)

Special A (COMPLETE)

Sugar Sugar Rune (COMPLETE + Rewatch)

Doraemon (Continue)

Wolf Children (COMPLETE)

Harvest Moon

Teen Titans (Rewatch)

Dandelion Wishes Brought You (Played)

Nameless The One Thing You Must Recall (Played)

Undertale (COMPLETE)

Vocaloid

The Walking Dead (Continue)

Ao Haru Ride (COMPLETE)

Card Capture Sakura (Rewatch)

Chibi Vampire Karin (COMPLETE)

Haikyuu!! (Rewatch)

Highschool of the Dead (COMPLETE)

Amnesia (COMPLETE)

Inu x Boku SS (Stuck on E4 (?))

K-ON!! (Rewatch)

Kamisama Hajimeshita (S1)

Fruit Basket (COMPLETE)

Code:Breaker (COMPLETE - Anime/Manga)

Yumeiro Pattissiere (S1/S2)

Donten ni Warau (Rewatch)

TMNT

Touken Ranbu (Only played the game/Anime must watch)

Death Note (Rewatch)

Naruto (Rewatch)

Nobless (Rewatch + Reread)

Osomatsu-san (Stuck on... Idk)

http://www.mangago.me/tag/time+travel/

http://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/193488/

http://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/146106/?filter=&page=3

http://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/130611/?filter=&page=10

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http://www.mangago.me/tag/Full+Color/?page=5

Manga on-going/to read

Make me bark - C14

Yarichin ☆ Bitch Club - C12

SM Gokko

Bameur Geonneun Seonbi 

Prince, Don’t Do This! 

Tian Mei De Yao Hen 

Cry for me

Bakumatsu Renka Karyuukenshiden 

Bride of the snake

Abide In The Wind Manhwa 

Yakozen

Siren's Lament 

The Next Door Neighbor

Baraou No Souretsu 

Killing Stalking - C36

Otodoke Shimasu

Lilith's Cord 

Living no Matsunaga-san - C10

Koi no Hajime

The Next Door Neighbor - C8

Blood Bank - C?

Kyuuso Ha Cheese no Yume Omiru

Wasuremono

Talk to me

Ore no Kimochi ga Wakaru ka 

Shounen Oujo 

School Life by SoonBo

Shuraba Maker 

sefure ijou, koibito miman! 

Yarisugi Party Night  C3

Looking for Clotho - C0B

Takane no Hana nara Ochitekoi 

Hare-kon 

Yakuza-sama no Omocha 

Gakkou No Sensei 

The Jinx's Lover 

Dos Obake Ga Nekasetekurenai - C7.5

Erito Ω Wa Yoru ni Oborete 

A Kiss To My Prince 

Yarisugi Party Night

Shirouto Yankee Kikiippatsu!! - C3

19 Days 

Cherry Blossoms After Winter 

Strange Dragon 

Yoidore Koi o Sezu - C6

Yondaime Ooyamato Tatsuyuki 

Oh! Lord Jesus - C51

Juuza Engi - Engetsu Sangokuden 

King’s maker

Joou No Hana 

Harukanaru Jikuu No Naka De 6 

Yeonmo 

Before the Footprint Melts 

Doronuma - V3.3 

Migawari Hakushaku no Bouken

Chasing Star Moon  

Akuma ga Kitarite 

Kimi Ni Koishitei Desu Ka 

Shen Yi Di Nu 

Secret Crush

Spirit Finger - C2

Fave

My Boyfriend is a Jiyiwei - C82

Ghost Wife - C66

Akatsuki no Yona - C160

A "Dimwitted" Monk fell from Heaven - C25

Gu Fang Bu Zi Shang Manhua - COMPLETE

What Lies at the End - COMPLETE

Chasing the Sun - C40

Watashi no Ookami-kun - C1

Tian Mei De Yao - C4

Yaonie jiaozhu kuai tang xia - C16

Hayama-kun!! - C0

Honey Blood - C7

Prince, don’t do this! - C86

Nobless - C??

Barairo no Yakusoku - C12

Bambi to Dhole - C19

Naui Binaneun Segye - C58

My Dear Cold-Blooded King - C38

Untouchable (massstar) - C76

[desearu]

Proshipper just means "a decent and sensible human being who can distinguish between fiction and reality and who tolerates and does not discriminate against what someone might depict in fiction."

[from the article because I feel like half of the people commenting didn't read it through]

I have never read a more excellent article

[littlestarprincess]

yeah, I think this should be adopted into western fandom too. O-kimochi yakuza. Got it.

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[sleepsonfutons]

Alright yall, insights into romanization! There are a lot of words in Japanese that sound similar but are actually different due to elongated consonants or vowels.

気持ちいい (romanized: kimochiii) is actually a two word phrase of 気持ち (kimochi) and いい (ii). 気持ち literally means "feeling/emotion" and 良い (<with kanji, いい ii) means "good, pleasant, etc". So when combined it simply means "This/that/(whatever the subject is) feels good" and isn't inherently sexual either. You can say this about a nice sea breeze, or a good back rub, etc. This is what you're hearing in Japanese porn and hentai. It's essentially the equivalent of the English moaned "fuuuuuck so good", etc.

『お気持ちヤクザ』とは「自身の不快感を社会悪として対象を排除する存在」のことを意味する新語である

⬆️⬆️⬆️ This is what the current o-kimochi yakuza conversation in Japanese is. お気持ちヤクザ (O-kimochi yakuza) is also a two word phase but also utilizes the 尊敬語 (sonkeigo) honorific to elevate the stature/status of the subject. In this case its use is sarcastic though just like how the use of English honorifics/polite language can be made sarcastic instead of actually being polite. So you have お気持ち(O-kimochi) with, again, the same meaning of "feeling/emotion" but with a sarcastic flair, re:

And ヤクザ (yakuza) which is literally what it says on the tin. Which leaves you essentially with a new Japanese-flavored take on "thought police"...

Soooo yeah, mind your romanization kids and get your learn on 🙃

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[septmilleneurones]

I want everyone to know the full Japanese term, o-kimochi yakuza, because the “o” part is an honorific that they tacked on to convey how precious antis are being about it.

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[literaryreference]

In Japanese it's "o-kimochi yakuza," using an honorific prefix on "feelings," which is apparently a Japanese meme that popped up after the now-former emperor used "o-kimochi" in his speech about why he was abdicating. As the emperor, he of course didn't just have regular feelings, he had Very Important Feelings. So people then started ironically using it for themselves, in the sense of "these are my Very Important Feelings about this fandom/character/whatever" (like, when you have strong feelings about something but you also know it's a bit silly). And somewhere along the line people started referring to people who were using their Very Important Feelings as an excuse to attack people as "feelings yakuza."

It's important to note that this expression was coined to describe bad behavior from Japanese fans. I've been seeing a lot of people, in the notes on this post and elsewhere, going "ah yes, the American Feelings Yakuza, imposing their feelings on other people the way no one of any other nationality would do," and generally acting like Japanese fans are so much more sensible and no-drama. But, as noted in both the translation and one of the addendums to the original post, it's not "American feelings yakuza" as in "the yakuza of American feelings," but as in "the American version of feelings yakuza." The OP was confused at first because the specific things English-speaking antis are fixated on are different, but recognized the behavior once it was explained. When OP characterizes separating fiction from reality as a normal-person majority opinion, it's because that, specifically, is not a point of contention in Japanese fandom, not because Japanese fans are more reasonable about everything. Let's not put Japanese fans on a pedestal--that's pretty messed up, actually!

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[septmilleneurones]

I’m screaming with laughter at the actual Japanese term, o-kimochi yakuza. The “o” is an honorific indicator to indicate how prissy and self-important these people are being.

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