#nthspecialll asks

[nthspecialll]

do you think Javier became an alcoholic after rdr2? Or at least during the epilogue? I keep seeing that he was, but I’m not sure.

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It is just headcanons, canoncially there is nothing pointing to it. Most people just think he acts different from rdr2 and looks a bit more crusty and think it is alcohol, thus we get:

I wouldn't say he is an alcoholic, he looks more crusty, yes, but there are several different reasons for that.

He aged 12 years.

He completely lost himself and had to rebuild his entire personality, ideology and existance.

His haircut is questionable.

The game's style is different.

Look at John, he also looks crustier in rdr1, why? Because of age, maturity and the fact that it was made in 2010, they weren't able to make as smooth and fluid motions like they could in 2018.

[gremlin-boah]

I give Dutch, a horse made of mango

This one's fo yo Dutch!

Ah shit.

@nthspecialll I think he was hungry, he could eat a mango horse.

[dreamingatnights]

MAKE THE COMIC ABOUT HOW JAVIER GOT HIS SCAR!! PLEASEEEE AND IF YOU DO, PLEASE KEEP ME UPDATED

Dkfhfkfj I WANT TO BUT MORIVATION IS HAAARD

If you're curious you can always reach my dms though because i like... Already have most of my ideas down already and i could send you the script or smt 👀

[werewolfarthurmorganenjoyer]

I love the Jobigail, Sadigail and Jovier polycule because this means Jack is stuck in an endless loop of "ask your dad/mom" until Uncle Arthur comes to the rescue and takes the boy to the bookstore

(@nthspecialll because we talked about this a while ago lol)

[nthspecialll]

what sort of man do you think bill is into?

I want you to look at Kieran and tell me what you see (if anyone says a twink I will force your ass to sit down and learn about queer terms), that is about it.

I don't ship Bill and Kieran, or Bill and Javier, but those are the two characters that Bill is hinted at liking and physically... They aren't identical but they have some similar points.

They aren't that far from each other in height, they have about the same build (not particuarly muscular looking but not thin either), long hair and stasche.

So yeah, i do think that it is about that type of man that Bill would like... Or a bear, I could also see him with a bear.

[nthspecialll]

I replayed that one mission where Charles and Javier are trying to rizz these two women up in Valentine and it made me wonder what kind of women do the Van Der Linde men want- Like their type of women, yk? Micah clearly has a preference for soft looking women with some fight in them (based on that conversation with Arthur in Chapter 4 when they were robbing a stage)

Idk about soft looking women, because uh Grimshaw, but sure let's look over it! I will only be looking at characters where I feel I have some factual evidence to lean on and not just headcanoning my way through this.

Arthur prefers women who lean into feminine gender roles but has strong morals.

Dutch prefers women who are young and conventionally attractive, most preferably if they are low maintience too.

Hosea would likely not fall in love again, but should he do it would be with women around his age, he would not go for younger women as he sees them as his children rather than potential lovers.

Sean likes women who are outspoken, loud and who speaks down to him. "I love it when you talk to me like that." (Yikes)

There are a few whom we know has had lovers, but we don't know enough about them to be able to draw much from it but:

Reverend loved a girl named Margaret whom he drank tea with and absolutely adored. So possibly a "proper" lady (turned out she wasn't proper but he didn't know that).

Javier killed for a lady, so probably someone in the revolution.

John likes Abigail, but we only know about Abigail so we can't say what is his type and what is just something he likes because he likes Abigail.

Charles says he wants to start a family, though that doesn't give us much insight into with what kind of person.

[nthspecialll]

Genuinely speaking, do you think the gang would somewhat be accepting of trans folk? Seeing that they're a pretty diverse group..

You want an honest answer? I think it depends on how well they pass.

The gang's main ideology for queerness, and likely also other minorities, is "don't tell, don't ask." Meaning, if the trans person can pass well enough that it isn't "telling" that they are trans, then yes I do think they would be accepting, but if not, if they don't pass, I think it would be a problem.

And even if they pass, they should expect teasing similarly as with Bill, those quick kinda snarky remarks and being the butt of the joke would be expected.

The only ones I think would be a tad bit more accepting is 1907 John and Arthur seeing as how they reacted to Charles Chatenay.

[nthspecialll]

Do you have any Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 pet peeves?

Definition: something that a particular person finds especially annoying.

People who hate or fight for no reaon.

"Arthur would solo Ellie (the last of us)!" "John 1911 solos Arthur!"

SHUT UP

IT DOES NOT MATTER. Unless you give me a 50 page long analysis of their strengths and weaknesses, their attacks and defenses, pros and cons, I WILL NOT HEAR IT. The only people I have seen do this is like 12 year olds too, but it annoys me so much.

Oh yeah, people who only plays the main story and then refuse to believe that anything outside the story exists. Like, it is okay that you didn't see Susan comforting Tilly, it is fine, everyone plays in their own way, but just don't claim it doesn't exist.

Also people who try to make Arthur seem like a macho MAGA man, did you play a different game than me or did you just play it with blindfold on? Listen I will always be the first person to point out Arthur's flaws, his sexism, ignorance, disrespectfulness, but I will also be the first to point out where he is more progressive than the orange with a terrible haircut.

[nthspecialll]

My RDR2 specific pet peeve is that YOU CANT CLOSE YOU JACKETS!

OOOO honestly fair, I don't use a jacket, I use like fur hanging over Arthur's shoulders, but yeah that is so fair.

[nthspecialll]

Arthur would definitely leave us be unless he had to

"We rob fools who rob other people, these people they're just trying to get by"

Absolutely, Arthur has a moral code, the one that Dutch taught him, hat being "we feed those who need feeding, shoot those who need shooting and save those who need saving," aka for the most part leaving innocnet people alone. He mentions it to a few other characters such as Micah, and discusses it with John, it is one of the reasons he gets so upset about Heidi.

[nthspecialll]

Why do you think the gang members all have horses that commonly can’t be found anywhere, like in stables or the wild?

Some of them can in the epilouge down in Tumbleweed

Silverdollar - Hosea

Gwydion - Trelawney

Ennis - Sean

Boaz - Javier

Branwen - Kieran

But I would say that the main reason why you can't find them normally is because they are meant to stand out, to be different. It is similar to how more detail is given to main characters than NPC's. You can't find NPC's with Bill's build, and just the same you can't find wild horses with Brown Jack's build.

[nthspecialll]

If Sean and Abigail were to have an interaction, what do you think that would have been like?

It would have something to do with Jack, Sean loves Jack and in the interaction they have Sean is teaching Jack about myths and stuff so it would likely be similar.

Either it would be Abigail being mad at Sean for trying to show off something "outlaw-ish" to Jack like quickdraws or how to polish a gun, or it would be Abigail telling Jack to quit annoying Sean because he is on guard duty or similar and Sean just says that it is fine, thus they start talking. I don't see them having many similarities outside of Jack, so at least those two I think would be a lot of fun.

[nthspecialll]

How do you think different VDL members cry?

Arthur doesn't ful cry, I mean we see him lose friends, family, himself, and he doesn't cry, his voice doesn't even shake when admitting he is dying. At the very most his eyes waters, like when talking to sister.

Hosea probably does it in fustration. Like when Dutch is messing things up again and again and he can do nothing about it.

John doesn't cry. Rob was literally tearing up during some scenes and he was told he wasn't allowed to cry because John doesn't cry.

Dutch, in secret. You won't see it, you won't know it, not ever and you don't know why either.

Javier probably cries thinkig about what he has lost, especially in 1900.

Charles, I feel he goes somewhere where he can be alone and probably hit some stuff or similar, get his feelings out.

I feel Sadie has toughened up, we see her cry in chapter 2, but later she has lost everything, she has nothing more to lose and nothing more to cry for.

[nthspecialll]

I want to hear your take on why Hosea doesn’t have his own tent

I personally believe it is due to the fact he does not want one.

Dutch has his own room, the best one with privacy, luxoury and all, he is living better than any of the others due to being the leader, but he has also distanced himself from the very people he claims to understand and be part of.

John and Arthur also has their own livings, but they aren't living luxuriously. John just has privacy and Arthur has a place for his stuff, but they are still metaphorically down in the grime with the rest of the gang, also because they take part in the hard work.

I think Hosea does not want to become raised above the rest of the gang like Dutch is, I think he wants to be part of them, he wants to be around them and be seen as one of them. And as for privacy or a place for his things to lay, I think he wouldn't mind them, but he wants others to have them first.

In chapter four Hosea has a room, but notice how the girls does to. I believe that before he got a room, he wanted them to have one, the boys can handle living outside, but the girls, he adores them and he wants them to have "luxury" before he does.

[nthspecialll]

do you think many members of dutch’s gang were religious? was dutch even religious?

There are some characters that we cant tell other than "oh they grew up in this place in this age" but there are also some where we know their religions! I am quickly going to go over them but HeavenlyMorals made a really good post on this which I recommend looking at!

Dutch is not a catholic, he verbally talks about his dislikes for them, meaning he probably grew up protestant, however he does act more in romantisism, which is based on the relationship between man, god and nature.

Hosea is protestant. He talks about wanting to become a priest however he gave up on it because he needed to be a catholic and he wasn't fond of that idea. He talks about heaven and salvation and about his relationship with god being rocky due to Bessie's death.

Arthur is agnostic. He is open to the idea of faith, talking about whether or not he can get salvation however he tells the nun he does not believe in anything at all. That said, he dislikes the church but not the people. He doesnt really care what people believe in, he respects it, but he hates how the church takes and takes.

John is a non-practicing christian. He makes reference to god, like marrying Abigail in front of her, Dutch not being saved and so on, but he is rather passive when it comes to religion itself and is rather realistic.

Abigail is a praciticing Christian. She asks Jack to read verses for her.

Sean is likely cultual catholic. He talks about being a Child Of God, and is proud of his irish heritage which is known for catholis.

Javier is too cultural catholic. He doesn't speak of it but he makes the cross sign.

Molly is probably a protestant due to her troubles with Sean.

Micah is atheist. He uses himself as a god, he bullies Swanson for being religious and talks it down.

Sadie is christian, though not practicing. She mentions god as a force but doesn't practice.

Swanson is protestant, though he has swayed a little. He talks about how "maybe catholics are right" when he is completely down and doubting in chapter 2.

These are very shortly explaining, but I REALLY recommend the post above!!

[nthspecialll]

Do you ever think its ironic in chapter one when Dutch promises Arthur that Davey jenny mac and sean are the 'last ones' that will die, (assuming sean was dead because they couldnt find him) only for them to only be the start of all the deaths in the gang?

Absolutely, I even made an edit about it