#note i was trying for yukiko or chie at the time but that cancelled that

[wirt-and-wirt-by-products]

Yall,,,,,,,,,, im modding my pc copy of p4g to hell and back bc ive finished the game 3 times and homies,,,,,, some of the comments on these mods are sending me.

(On the gay romance mod) "this mod is incredibly creepy, this chara is a minor and we shouldnt be modding in dating options for them. Probably best to report this"

Bruh. One its cut content still in the game files, and just made active again. Two look me in the eyes and tell me word for word what the canon lovers romance flag is. Tell me exactly how the 16yr old protag starts dating rise. Ill wait.

[iconsumeheadcanons]

persona characters autism headcanons!

hi im autistic and i started my day with sun so now im !!!!!!!!! some of these headcanons are from elsewhere on tumbr, but i dont know where :(((  so i am hoping someone out there knows that n that everybody knows that i love them <3

(also go check out mollypaup and i think hypeswap if you havent already! they post some good stuff autism+adhd hc too!!! i think.. oh! and thieves-in-the-palace!!!)

P5

Joker

there was some artwork from someone on tublr..where they pointed out that he doesnt really talk outside the metaverse so--hes hyperverbal as joker and just near nonverbal as akiren

he stims ALL THE TIME. that phone thing, the pencil thing, the little tappy tap of his foot, pulling at his bangs when hes embarrassed/smug. someone get him a fidget spinner. he’ll prob learn to do tricks with it

he probably sucks at focusing in class, like i know its just the game design but hes always surprised out of his daily “star out the window at the nearby office building” when his teachers ask him questions

mona mentions when the pt is at Wilton for the first time (after they run into shido) that joker eats like shit, and that could have multiple causes at the start of the story of course, but when i first played i thought that joker was a picky eater and that the variety (and amount of food) at the buffet would be an Ordeal...

tho mona makes that comment bc joker looked pale after having a little ptsd moment from shidos voice, but i didnt know that the first time i played

maybe when joker makes a face at ryuji putting so much ginger in his gyudon? joker probably does not like pickled ginger lol

his favortive foods are all spicy, which is why the curry he makes for his friends is always ‘overly spicy’, and why kasumi makes him a curry bento and joker kept going “...?” .... “....?!”

overly reflective glasses have been a great plus for him bc now he never has to make real eye contact every again!

mona Soft. play with Ann hair. maybe Braid. nice

puns (Gorou the Goroumet)

he has so many options to be straight up rude sometimes in game. he probably no clue on his own, which is why he defaults to Not Talking. people probably mention his constant scary face, which is just him being nonexpressive, squinting at all the fucking bright lights, and Tired

executive function who? we do everything last minute folks

high pain tolerance, which is why he was the kid that was always climbing trees in elementary school to get basketballs unstuck from the branches

his sixth sense lets him see treasure and possible places to climb/crawl bc 1. Shiny? Steal it. Steal it Now. and 2. Could i fit in that? Time to Find Out

probalby a bit of a klepto too oops. he’ll return it tho!! but he has to do it dramatically or he’ll die

cant sit properly to save his life

smells and touch are Great, they can keep him grounded when his brain goes off to police or dead rivals or guilt or

if a friend hung out with him and gave him total reigns of the agenda, he would choose to nap on the floor while his friend does something off to the side quietly

hyperfocuses on handy tasks (i.e. lockpicks, coffee brewing, cleaning, his part time jobs) and some things like movies and books. everything else is a tossup

his (normal) navigation app is his most used app bc he still doesnt know where hes going, even though he only goes to the same few places in the city

hates being sweaty, literally cannot stand it. probably double exhausted during the summer

but Needs Compression so hes often Struggling

Futaba

paraphrase from p5d “i have no motor skills so i cant play rhythm games :(” need i say more? (i will regardless)

echolalia all the time, from anime, memes, the PT

those headphones she wears all the time? noise cancelling ear protectors babey

only talks about her interests, “normal” talking is Not Easy, but she is still communicative w others despite her worries. shes not “hard to understand” at all but she feels the anxiety nonetheless

only talks informally, cannot talk ‘politely’ with out imitating someone around her

shes had meltdowns and anxiety attacks in game :( i relate so hard

Technology. thats it

def had an egypt phase that pops up every few months. probably came from yu-gi-oh

has Immune to Bright Lights buff.  joker is very jealous

“Time to make like a tree and leave!” and 30 other iterations

video game metaphors are the only ones that makes sense to her

probably relates hard to robot characters in anime for their general androgyny and confusion about human emotions and connections

probably gets told that shes “too smart to be on the spectrum” by teachers >:( she fails their classes on purpose

wakaba’s autistic too that just how it is

the Connection that she establishes with Joker is so Warm. my life goals include adopting an older brother like futaba has lsdkfjslkfj

also eater of 5 foods only, i mean, she brings cup ramen to the beach. i just really admire her...

hides in small spaces for comfort

doesnt she have like uhhhhh hyperthymesia or something like that?

Yusuke

art

his entire social link is learning how humans work, which i relate

talks seriously all the time

“sarcasm? who is that? are you saying I was sarcastic?...how?”

cant remember to take care of his body, and madarame did not help with that either

lot of uncomfortable staring, hes overdoing the eye contact thingy

infodumps all the time, doesnt know hes doing it

needs a lot of support even if he doesnt think he deserves it. no one ever complains about helping him out tho

visual stims my friends

he didnt know that you could look up pictures on the internet but he does know you can stream live videos of waterfalls and fluffy animales!!

I am certainly in the mood

for something salty today.

he and joker are scared of math. numbers do not interact

Yusuke, futaba, and akiren are a trio and i know this bc their first day of non-thievery interacts is Akiren clearing Futabas room w/o permission, futaba hyperfocusing on destroying medjed, and yusuke rearranging futabas figurines so they are more visually appealing

morgana is a support friend for all of them bc igor knows they need it

P4

Souji/Yu

yes, he mostly wears gray semi formal clothes bc parents tell him to, no, he will not changes this

Schedule or Death

“sorry, could you repeat that?” “huh? oh yeah, i was saying that--” “yeah that’d be cool.”

cats, fishing, he just likes to be quiet. you can literally spend a day at the beach just to think if you want, and that is what yu want

has a lot of scripts for things (of which he shares with nanako!) but if he runs out he just stops talking..

inaba is a godsend bc its so fucking quiet and warm

he Yearns to hold his friends hands, but he shies away from a lot of touch (excepting yosuke, teddie, and nanako)

Cooking and Cleaning makes the world better. he and joker vibe together with this

unlike akiren, he strong arms any executive dysfunction into Be Productive or Else. his punishment is feeling the pure anxiety of having to make up for ‘lost time’. (another symptom of his workaholic parents)

writes everything down, notes are very neat, has pages dedicated for bad doodles when hes not feeling his usual Super Classroom Focus

Cannot handle secondhand embarrassment (most often caused by yosuke) and will quietly slip away to random cats or origami folding

hungry, crunch crunch folks. probably needs chewelry bc he used to chew on his shirt collars when he was younger.

cleans up after everyone in the food court, constantly worries about them accidently hurting themselves. likely spends half of group conversations watching peoples hands

he canonically eats expired food, nanako plz help your brother

really clumsy, but people only notice after they decide that he is a cool person

video games are too chaotic for him

exhausted every night from the pure amount of masking he does, if a friend spends the night (or is like yosuke) they will know his more comfortable weirdo self (tho everyone knows hes a weirdo eventually)

hyperempathetic, sometimes just understands animals and children better than peeople his age or older

Yukiko

her jokes

she and souji get in ‘trouble’ together, she and joker commit crimes together

she and chie have to coordinate outfits, its important

actually understands metaphors, but does not understand people

like me, had no clue that creepy kid was flirting with her

she is very angry when she has meltdowns that might involve slamming doors and shouting. her parents call these ‘tantrums’ and ‘unfitting for a polite daughter’ but really thats because her meltdowns tend to be caused by arguments w her family after a long day of school and TV world traipsing

the metronome meme, except hers goes between Loudest Person in the Room to Quietest Pin Drop in the Planet. she is completely unaware of this

her atmosphere brightens when chie appears. that is not only the lesbian energy within her, but also because chie is like her Favorite Person

Cannot wear Pants. No (tho she wants to try it! but she puts them on and her soul instantly squashes)

happy flappy lesbian! watch out!

Naoto

the pouty face. all the time lskdfjlasdkf

hes really snappy sometimes and i love that for him. he and akechi should fight just to see what would happen (please read Bang Bang Shoot Shoot on AO3)

“do not touch me or my hat, thank you”

no one has ever seen him shutdown and no one ever will (except for his grandpa)(and kanji)(and rise)

probably likes certain food textures and will stand for nothing less, probably feels embarrassed about his preferences with friends

constantly jumps between ‘everybody hates me so i should act like them so they dont hate me’ to ‘i refuse to be anything but very comfortable as myself, and i dont care that im making you upset sir’

he and souji are the king and queen of subtle stims, but for unhappy reasons :(

does not make jokes. cannot joke around. understand? yes, do? no.

loose clothes are the only good clothes, but all tags and obtrusive seams will be obliterated by kanji tatsumi

not very empathetic so he probably comes off as an asshole to strangers (like when he throws away his classmates confession letters without reading them) but he tries so hard to sound comforting when his buds are struggling.

his understanding of others emotions/reactions come from his learning as a detective, which seems cold+clinical to others, especially compared to souji, whos completely unexpressive but very introverted people person

P3

Hamuko/Minako/Kotone

big personality!! very people-oriented!! koromaru and her are buddies!! when shes having a real bad time, shes very quiet and expressions turn off

interrupts herself in the middle of conversations all the time. no one knows where shes coming from. her brains is thousands of km ahead of her body

bouncey legs, swingin arms, twirlly skirt, little somersaults! when will she stop? never!

very obvious music stims with her hands and arms! people are like “oh there she goes! happy as usual!” shes listening to minatos heavy metal playlist

switches from exhausted to excited within milliseconds. no one can predict, not even her

SEES has to ask her for context all the time cuz she’ll just continue shit from 2 weeks ago without warning

professionals will assume shes very childish bc of how chipper she is, but she is beyond mature for her age and only feels comfortable enough to have serious conversations if a person has proved themself able to handle it

collects every little thing. her room is a mess and she has to get rid of most of it every time she moves :(

hates cleaning! smells bad, feels bad hhhhhgggg

dont let mitsuru-senpai see her bedroom

gets lost in the middle of conversations with others bc shes thinking about a story connected to one(1) word that was said earlier

 no sense of time and place, she just sees her friends and goes “ah, this is the right place, then” but junpei and akihiko are also lost so now theyre all screwed

Minato/Makoto/Sakuya

no talkies, no walkies

his story in the movies is him literally learning how to function around people he cares for

doesnt get jokes, expressions, body language, empathy, subtlety, metaphors, physical contact, or eye contact. aigis is probably the only person he truly understands right away

he is still nice to people because he doesnt see a reason not to be, but also he has very limited energy so only his senpai and old people get his most polite-kindnesses

cannot describe feelings for the life of him. the team wont know hes injured or sick until hes passed out

everything is too loud, time to drown it out with my loud ass music

rocking and chewing stims, ryoji is the first person to point him out for these subtle stims (not accusingly of course, just general pure curiosity and love for the uniqueness of humanity)

likes to cover his face with whatever is available, lives like a bat in a dark dry cave

will wear anything that has pockets and his blue/gray/black palette

sleepy at all times bc he never has much energy

when he was younger he probably needed a lot of support, especially after his parents died, because he wouldnt communicate like a neurotypical and would shutdown for hours in the middle of school without warning. probably missed a lot of lessons and field trips out of pure overstimulation

eating at all times. no preference, just whatevers closest

his meltdowns probalby include humming whining noises and curling up in a ball, which makes people want to touch him, but that is the LAST thing he wants. put a blanket on him! play some music! do not talk and do not expect him to speak

aigis is the only person who can touch him normally bc her hands are cold and he likes cold

never nude, feels mmmmmmmmm without clothes and probalby wears a full robe in the hotsprings

will not do things that take more than one step w/o someone else walking him thru it, which Same

[individuationfic]

Seeking to Seize Chapter 5

AO3

They have a meeting on the school roof the day Yukiko comes back. Yu, Yosuke, and Chie catch herup on what they’ve figured out and how Personae work, and Yukiko glumly admits she doesn’t remember much about her kidnapping. Chie hovers, concerned, as Yukiko speaks, and she flushes bright red when Yu cuts her an amused look.

Once everyone is on the same page, they stop speaking, so Yu pulls his notepad out of his bag and scribbles, Will you help us? and shows it to Yukiko.

Yukiko freezes. Yu can see the wheels turning in her head and the panic flashing in her eyes. He’s pretty sure the only reasons she isn’t breaking down are the combination of Chie’s shoulder resting solidly against her own and her Persona speaking to her in her head. Eventually a determined look takes over her wary face and she agrees.

Within him, Izanagi makes a pleased humming sound. Your bond with your team grows more powerful by the day, he says. The closer you become, the stronger I get.

Yu wonders if the others feel a similar pressure. This thought is more than a little pointed, and Izanagi laughs.

Chie announces that she’s hungry, so the team decides to migrate to Junes. As they approach the school gate, they see three people ahead of them. Shiomi-senpai, Yuki-senpai, and a woman with silvery-blonde hair.

Yu freezes up. He suddenly remembers his revelation about Shiomi-senpai, and this new woman makes him even more suspicious. There’s no way this can be a coincidence. She looks too similar to Margaret for that. Yu catches Yosuke’s attention and signs, ‘I just remembered something we need to talk about.’

Yosuke has gotten much better at signing in the few weeks Yu’s been teaching him. He’s mostly graduated from finger spelling and knows basic signs, so it’s much easier and much quicker to relay information to him. Yosuke must see something in Yu’s face because he nods, face resolute. ‘At Junes,’ he replies. Then he says, “Hey, Chie, Yukiko, you two should learn JSL, too.”

“That’s what you guys have been doing at lunch?” Chie asks.

“I was wondering where you went today,” Yukiko adds.

Yosuke nods. “Yeah, we go to the roof and Yu teaches me there. It’s a lot easier to talk to him with sign language than making him use his note pad.” Then his grins, mischievous, and continues, “Plus, I’m pretty sure his handwriting is getting worse.”

Yu shoves him, and he’s pretty sure Yosuke laughs. This finally seems to attract the attention of their senpai, because Shiomi-senpai waves. “Narukami-kun, Hanamura-kun, Satonaka-chan, Amagi-chan, come here! I want to introduce you all to someone!”

The others all look to Yu first, which momentarily surprises him. He knows he’s supposed to be their leader, but he didn’t know that extended to outside of the TV as well as inside. He makes his nod as small as he can, and only then do they approach. Chie, still a bit suspicious, clings to Yukiko’s arm, eyes hard. Yu’s pretty sure she won’t be letting Yukiko out of her sight for a long time.

“This is Elizabeth,” Shiomi-senpai when they finally get close enough. “She’s an old friend who helps take care of me and Makoto. Elizabeth, there are the kouhai we’ve told you about.”

Elizabeth’s golden eyes flash, curious. “Oh?” she asks.

Yu signs, ‘Ask her if she has a sister,’ to Yosuke, whose face is overtaken by a lecherous grin at whatever imagined implication he gets from the request. Before Yu can correct the obvious misconception, Yosuke asks the question. “Sorry, Elizabeth-san, but my friend wants to ask if you have a sister.”

Elizabeth smiles, her eyes drilling through any sort of defense Yu could have put up. “Yes,” she says, “I do. I’m told we look quite similar.”

Yu really does intend to tell the team about his suspicions. He does. He wants near-complete transparency regarding investigation matters.

But Adachi shows up at Junes, and Yu feels his hackles raise, and he says nothing.

Nanako is so happy to be invited to Junes.

Yu’s glad. She was devastated when Dojima cancelled their Golden Week trip and Yu couldn’t bear it. He thinks, perhaps cruelly, that it’s a lot easier for Dojima to deal with his daughter’s sadness because he’s never home.

Of course, he says none of this to Nanako, and she has an absolute blast. She adores Yosuke and gets fawned over by Chie and Yukiko. When she offers to get Yu a drink, she calls him “Onii-chan,” and he swears his heart flies away. By the time they get home, it seems like Nanako has forgotten about Dojima’s broken promise, at least for now.

School starts up once more. The whole team (sans Teddie, of course) meets on the roof. Under the guise and relative silence of a JSL lesson, they are able to discuss the investigation in secret.

They quickly touch base regarding the lack of missing persons and the status of the Midnight Channel. Then, after those topics are exhausted, and Yu is as certain as he can be that no one else is around, he finger spells, ‘I think Shiomi-senpai knows something about the TV world.’

Chie, startled, forgets their cover, drops her hands, and says “What?” aloud. While Yosuke rushes to quiet her, Yu pulls his notepad out. His explanation, he knows, will be too long to finger spell, so he wrote it down the night before. He very desperately hopes he’s explained the Velvet Room in an easy to understand way.

‘Do you think she’s a suspect?’ Yukiko signs when she’s finished reading. She’s picked up on JSL very quickly, Yu thinks. She’s still using basic signs, but she’s already almost at Yosuke’s level.

Yu shakes his head. ‘I don’t get that feeling. She helped us by giving me that Goho-M, after all.

‘So you think she knows more than she’s saying?’

‘Exactly.’

Chie’s brow furrows and she quickly looks at her cheat sheet. ‘How could she know about the TV world without being involved?’ she signs with much difficulty. Yu feels a little bad for her. He can only imagine how frustrated she is by all the signing.

Something like realization sparks in Yosuke’s eyes. ‘We might not be the first Persona users,’ he points out. ‘Maybe Shiomi-senpai is one, too.’

‘Do you think the killer is a Persona user?’ Yukiko asks.

Yu signs, ‘They have to be. How else would they know about the fog? If there was only one victim, I could write it off as an accident, but you and Konishi-senpai had to be premeditated.’

He feels a vibration in the air, and by the way everyone else whips their heads around, the school bell has rung. Aloud, Yosuke says, ‘The school gates will be closing soon. I’ll go to Junes and tell Teddie what we talked about.” He starts to stand.

Before he can get far, Yu signs, ‘Nobody goes alone. The buddy system is safest.’

Yosuke pouts. “I wasn’t planning on going in!”

‘The killer has to know someone is onto them. They could be waiting around and watching people spending time near TVs. It’s not safe to go alone.’

Yosuke looks like he wants to retaliate, but Yukiko, who can somewhat understand their argument, steps in. “I’ll go with you,” she says. “Junes is near my bus stop, anyway.”

Yu shoots her a grateful look. ‘I’ll walk Chie home, then.’

Yukiko nods and says, “Thank you.”

Chie is mostly quiet as Yu escorts her home. She has to give him directions, of course, but it turns out she only lives a few streets away from Dojima. Yu is internally grateful; he was worried about being able to find his way home.

She’s clearly troubled by something, so Yu types What’s bothering you? into the notes on his cell phone and shows her the screen.

Chie shakes her head. “It’s stupid,” she says. Yu’s glad the sun hasn’t sunk too far past the horizon, because it’s already getting hard to read her lips. He’s about to prod her again, but she continues, “It’s just—do you think Yukiko likes Yosuke?”

This startles what must be a laugh out of Yu, because Chie’s face turns red. He quickly types out a message before she can work herself up too much. Why do you think that?

“She offered to go to Junes with him.”

Yosuke was being difficult and we were about to start arguing. Yukiko stepped in to defuse the situation.

Chie’s eyes go wide. “You were about to fight?”

He’s underestimating the danger around us, Yu types. I want us to have a buddy system whenever possible, and he was being stubborn about it.

“Oh.” They’ve reached her house now, so they stop. “Is that why you walked me home?”

Partly. I also wanted to talk to you about Yukiko.

“What about Yukiko?”

About how you need to tell her how you feel.

Chie’s face goes pale. “I—I can’t do that! Her family is, like, super traditional! She could hate me forever if she finds out I’m—” She freezes suddenly, and then speaks, the movement of her mouth small as she says, “—gay.”

Yu feels a wave of sympathy wash over him. I know how that feels, he types, but it’s not fair to you to keep this bottled up. If it makes you feel any better, I’m pretty sure she likes you, too.

Chie goes from white to red in about two seconds. She sputters a quick, “See you tomorrow!” and bolts, running into her house and slamming the door behind her.

[Satonaka Chie]: I need to talk to you about something. Wanna go to Aiya’s after school tomorrow?

[Amagi Yukiko]: Sure! It’s supposed to rain tomorrow, too, so you can try the challenge again.

[Satonaka Chie]: I’ll beat it some day!

[Amagi Yukiko]: I know you will.

[Amagi Yukiko]: Good night, Chie.

[Satonaka Chie]: Night, Yukiko.