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Just saw a screen rant article saying the horse and his boy should be skipped in Netflix’s adaptation of Narnia and I’d hear them out if it was about the orientalism because that would make the book tricky to adapt for modern audiences but not impossible (just look at fics or even headcanons that dive into aravis lore or just expand on calormen culture in general to be more 3 dimensional there’s some incredible fan writers out there)
The reason was that it’s “the weakest book in the series” 🤠
Like just, as a story. 🧍♀️
I will not stand for aravis erasure
#there were also multiple slights at the silver chair which I won’t stand for#listen I do understand having preferences but like#the main reason the article gave was the audience would struggle with a change in the style of story too much#this is spoken like someone who only knows the pevensie stories and didn’t care beyond that#except the writer clearly read the other books….#bestie the pevensies even show up in that story and we get to see them as kings and queens how is that not engaging#not to mention aravis as a character#and the expanding of the world#CoN#netflix narnia#Narnia#the horse and his boy#aravis tarkheena#mini rant#hhb
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For the book asks 📚: 1, 15, 19, and 20
1. book you’ve reread the most times?
i’m a big rereader partially bc my memory is shit and partially bc i find each read of a book is a unique and enjoyable experience lol but the book(s) i’ve read the most have to be the Chronicles of Narnia. obviously the nostalgia factor plays into that and the fact that they’re children’s books means they’re quick and easy reads, but i find the hope and sense of adventure in the series just so refreshing and inspiring so I’ll grab one of the books whenever i need a bit of that. i’m actually planning a narnia tattoo bc the series was so formative for me
15. recommend and review a book.
if literally anyone else asked me this question it wouldn’t have been nearly as hard but we’ve read so much of the same stuff and have recommended most of the rest of it to each other already and i scoured my storygraph and nothing stood out that I haven’t recommended but think you’d like sooo i’m gunna be annoying and hype up a recommendation i’ve already given you 😬 Gregor the Overlander is the first book in a series by Suzanne Collins (of Hunger Games fame) and it follows the story of this kid who falls down a grate in the laundry room of his apartment complex and finds an entire civilization underground. there are humans down there, but there are also sentient giant bats, rats, roaches, and spiders which sounds a little weird but if a book manages to bring me to tears over a damn cockroach, you know it’s gotta be good. it’s also probably part of why i like bats so much lol but anyway Gregor finds out the underlanders have a prophecy about him which he wants nothing to do with til some shit happens. it’s similar to percy jackson in that you’ve got this prophecy outlining the story and setting up expectations but it keeps you on your toes and is still so intriguing to actually watch it unfold. it’s middle grade but it’s complex and like the Hunger Games it doesn’t shy away from heavy topics and deals with them realistically but in a way that’s accessible for a younger audience if that makes sense? also i love the characters and the way they interact with each other so much. i know i’ve mentioned it to you before but the two main characters remind me a lot of Shasta and Aravis in The Horse and His Boy and that’s just such a fun dynamic
19. most disliked popular books?
i answered this in slightly more detail in my last ask but i am an unapologetic Sarah J Maas and Colleen Hoover hater 😬
20. what are things you look for in a book?
at the very base level, a story and characters that are compelling to me. i read mostly sci-fi and fantasy, but as someone who studied and teaches literature, i do actively try to read a little bit of everything. it’s good to get out of your literary comfort zone sometimes lol that being said, the writing style can really make or break a book for me. i’ve picked up books with really intriguing premises and then struggled to get through them or didn’t finish bc the style was distracting or not to my taste or sometimes just plain not good… i admit to probably having higher than average standards for that kinda thing but a lifetime of reading (aaand taking dozens of literature classes) can do that to you lol
#i feel like you’ve probably heard all of this from me before but I appreciate the ask anyway friend 🥰#you should answer the ones i sent you now 👀#thanks for the ask yo
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Some cultural elements I might add to a future Narnia adaptation:
Not sure what culture to base Archenland on but maybe cast them as people of color?
For that matter, cast actors of color as some of the indigenous Narnian characters, especially the more human-looking ones like nymphs and such.
Cast Pasifika actors as the Telmarines, since Lewis described them as descendants of pirates in the South Seas who married locals and found their way into Narnia. Perhaps clarify in this adaptation that the marriages were willing (which doesn't seem to have been the case in the novel), for example by changing the pirates to less violent sailors and establishing that this happened before Europe (and the US, and Japan) colonized the Pacific.
Calormen. Hoo boy. If I had to touch this, first I'd base them on, like, ancient Mesopotamia more than the Arabian Nights. Second I'd actually, you know, flesh out their culture and depict both Calormene and Narnian society with pros and cons, instead of the angle of "Narnia's proper medievalesque Christian values are better in every way than Calormen's Oriental Despotism™" that the books took.
Related to the above, possibly depict The Horse and His Boy and The Last Battle as in-universe anti-Calormene propaganda (not just to avoid the racism, but because The Last Battle is kind of a downer). Hell, I even remember The Silver Chair mentioning The Horse and His Boy as a story told at the giants' castle—over a thousand years after the events of THaHB, so some details may have changed in the retelling even if it was based on real events. Maybe Rabadash did invade Archenland, but the actual casus belli wasn't "swarthy foreign prince lusts after white woman," but (in keeping with the Mesopotamian angle I mentioned) "Archenland cancels shipment of subpar copper." Also Aravis and Lasaraleen were totally an item.
For that matter, diversify the human visitors from Britain? This could help avoid the colonial vibe that people have pointed out regarding the kids waltzing into Narnia and ruling the place, a vibe that could become especially pronounced if both the indigenous population and the Telmarines are cast as people of color. I personally like the idea of the Pevensies as Romani or Irish Travellers (Paveensies?), Digory Kirke as Anglo-Indian (hell his dad is mentioned to be in India for work, so maybe that's where they're originally from), and Jill Pole as Afro-Caribbean.
Feel free to expand on this and add your own two cents, especially since I'm white myself and I could very easily be getting something wrong.
#narnia#the chronicles of narnia#c.s. lewis#c. s. lewis#cs lewis#c s lewis#culture#race#racism#colonialism#orientalism
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so far the stranger things narnia character types I feel most certain about are:
Nancy = Susan
Steve = Eustace
Robin = Jill
I’m more on the fence about the following but I will mention them:
Mike = Lucy
El = Tumnus (or Caspian)
Max = Aravis
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Also a friendly reminder that the reason Susan was no longer a friend of Narnia wasn’t because she was girly and liked lipstick, but because she stopped believing in Narnia due to wanting to seem grown-up. Like the Lewis quote about having a fear of childishness and wanting to be very grown-up, Susan put the appearance of maturity over actual maturity.
When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
The problem with Susan being “interested in nothing nowadays except nylons and lipstick and invitations” isn’t the nylons, lipsticks, and invitations, it’s the being interested in nothing except that. It’s the fact that she stops believing in Narnia and in Aslan.
Nylons, lipsticks, and invitations are more or less just the English version of what she liked back in Narnia in a queen, and she’s always presented as being a good queen. We even meet a similarly girly character in The Horse and His Boy, Lasaraleen, and the story explicitly tells us that the more tomboy-ish Aravis is wrong to belittle Lasaraleen for being girly.
It may also be worth noting that we get the nylons, lipsticks, and invitations quote not from any of Susan’s siblings, but from Jill Pole. Some disdain coming through in the quote would be in character for Jill, who’s young and decidedly a tomboy and not big on “girly” things. The other Pevensies are pretty silent on the matter of Susan- like maybe it’s too painful for them to talk about, or Lewis can’t have them talk about it because the discussion wouldn’t fit well into a children’s book.
Lastly, I think it’s worth mentioning that Susan’s story is the closest to that of Lewis himself. He was raised religious, became an atheist as a teen, and then went back to religion as an adult. And Susan’s name means “lily”- a flower that’s associated with Jesus in real life and with Aslan in Narnia. Her siblings have significant names, so Susan’s name was probably carefully chosen too.
And what flower covers the sea at the uttermost east, closest to Aslan’s country? Lilies.
Yearly Reminder that C.S Lewis encouraged his fans to write fanfiction about Susan Pevensie becoming a friend to Narnia and reuniting with her family once again.
Literally inviting his fans to write Susan’s adult, angsty character development with a happy ending.
Do your duty fans. Write that fanfiction.
#cs lewis#susan pevensie#the problem of susan#another day another post where i ramble about the problem of susan#yikes this is longer than the original post oops#sorry op
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wait how is the Last Battle racist? I'm not tryna start shit, I'm just genuinely curious since it's my least favorite narnia book so I only read it once when I was 8 and I'm white so I wasn't really aware of that kind of thing & don't really remember what happens except that they die and swim up a waterfall
Oh um YOU HAVE UNLOCKED A THEDREADVAMPY RAMBLE TOPIC
So it was my absolute favourite book as a kid so I'm not trying to shit on it here. And I don't actually think it's the most racist book in the series (that is UNILATERALLY The Horse And His Boy) but it's sort of where Clive Staples lays out his socioreligious ideas very explicitly so.
the underlying peril is that the Lying Cult-Creating Ape has used a misrepresentation of Aslan to grab power, and part of his power grab involves calling in the Calormene from over the border. They then take advantage of that to turn him into a puppet (because he's obsessed with his own cleverness and pretty shit at planning) and they take over Narnia, enforcing worship of their god Tash, enslaving the animals, cutting down the trees etc.
Throughout the series the Calormene, who are the ancestral enemies of Narnia, are described as a race of dark-skinned, greedy, violent and wicked people and are very, very explicitly coded as Muslim (largely Arab/North African but with some South Asian trappings).
In the interests of accuracy, it's more Islamophobia than racism.
There is a Good Calormene in the book, Emeth (I loved Emeth as a kid), and he's rendered good through his faith - he believes in Tash, but has a strong moral core and believes that it's his religious duty to do right by the Narnians and resist the tyranny of the Calormenes. At the end of the book, Aslan says that Tash (who, remember, is the god of a heavily Arab-coded people) is the god of death, decay, cruelty and darkness, and he is the god of light and good and life, and "anything good you did in the name of Tash, you did for me, and any evil done in my name was done for Tash" and that's why the Narnians who did awful things in the name of the Aslan cult don't get to go to Narnia Heaven but Emeth does, and Emeth renounces Tash, takes Aslan as his god, and goes to Narnia Heaven at the end of the world.
So far this is largely the "Narnia is a Christian allegory" thing writ large, it's evangelical but largely religious rather than racial. But it's not just about religion - consistently throughout this book and the others, Calormene's otherness is emphasized through reference to their race and foreignness as well as their religion (which really only comes up in this book specifically). All the Calormenes are described as dark-skinned and 'oddly dressed'; all Narnian humans are explicitly white and usually blonde.
At one point, which even as a kid I was a bit 😬 at, Jill, Eustace and Tirian disguise themselves as Calormenes to sneak past a Calormene encampment in the dark, and they do this by rubbing dark berry juice into their faces to darken their skin ("nothing but oil and ashes will make us white Narnians again" says Tirian).
In the whole series, which frequently features Calormenes as a secondary antagonistic threat, Emeth is one of only two Good and Righteous Calormenes. Forgive me if I dive into my lifelong hatred of The Horse And His Boy, but despite that ENTIRE book taking place in Calormen, the only other Good Calormene is Aravis in that, who is *checks notes* a girl fleeing forced marriage with the intent to get out of her home culture and move to a ~civilised~ place, who is savage and often casually cruel ~in the manner of her people~ and has to be taught kindness by the Secretly White Protagonist. Although the book mentions some nameless Calormenes going to Narnia Heaven, every single Calormene with a name or a line in the whole series other than Emeth and Aravis are explicitly barbaric, cruel, sadistic, greedy, venal, fanatical and/or corrupt. This is a criticism of Narnia as a whole, not just The Last Battle, but The Last Battle brings it into sharp focus because other than The Horse And His Boy I think it's the only book with named Calormene characters.
Honestly the Last Battle is very clearly working to mitigate the racism of preceding books. Like, this is the book that explicitly says Calormenes Aren't All Evil (But Their Faith Is) and Emeth is a delight, he was one of my favourite characters as a kid, but the thing is that in trying to address the racism, Clive Staples has to explicitly talk about his ideas about race and religion and they are uhhhhhhhhhhhh he's a white man from the 50s is what they are. He's very much framing Emeth and the nameless Calormenes that enter Narnia Heaven as One Of The Good Ones and the implication that Calormenes are Generally Wicked remains to a pretty big degree.
Tl;Dr it's not the Most Racist Narnia book by a long shot, but the racist assumptions underlying a lot of the series - that Brown People Are A Scary Vaguely Muslim Other and All The Goodies Are Obviously White European-Coded Christian-Allegory People - is a lot harder to ignore in the books where Calormenes play a major role.
#tbh i always forget that the interesting plot bit is only like. half the book and the rest of musings about heaven#because as a kid i was SO INVESTED in the first half it was like the most philosophically dense thing I'd ever been offered up as For Kids#like it's about corruption and oppression and the misuse of religion and the nature of goodness and mob mentality#and also the king and the unicorn are totally married and when i was like 6 i did not question that at all#it was only much later i realised that wasn't in the text so baby's first ship i guess#like the characters in the Eustace/Jill books are very enjoyably flawed and likeable#every character i care about is from Dawn Treader or later#in this house we stan Reepicheep we stan Puddleglum we stan Emeth we stan Tirian we stan Puzzle#but mostly we stan Jill Pole
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You know, as funny as this is, random side thought: I actually run into the "C.S. Lewis gave children weapons" bit on this site a lot. It seems like one of the most frequently mentioned things about the franchise on Tumblr, and I've always wondered why. I personally never took an issue with it. On the contrary, I thought it was admirable. "They're kids, they shouldn't fight wars" - just don't.
Times were tougher then
Literal world war, people were dying en masse
Lewis understood a crucial thing: Of course kids shouldn't fight in an ideal world, but it's illusory to expect that they won't have to.
The world isn't ideal, life happens, parents will come short in ways and cannot spot/solve all of their children's problems for them. They're humans, they just can't. They're occupied with their own problems. Some crisis' are out of adults' control too.
Evil doesn't make halt before kids either.
So better be prepared than not. Stay in shape, do some sparring. When you're a kid stuck in a scary, shitty, abusive situation, you wish someone gave you a proper weapon (a tool to defeat it!).
Lewis understood another crucial thing: Children love to be seen, to be taken seriously, to be given attention and responsibility. It's how God sees them. To give a child something of true value is only appropriate to their worth. They aren't inferior to grown-ups, they are world changers just as much as their adult peers. They are capable of having wise, important thoughts, and they are deserving of being heard and listened to and invested into.
Lewis furthermore understood the importance of learning. Peter, Eustace, Aravis - they all underwent a great learning process of taking responsibility for themselves and others. Aslan never let them face more than they could take on when he trained them.
Lewis also understood that facing a school bully and facing your arch enemy on the battlefield are not too different from each other: What matters in the end is the quality of your character.
And finally, Lewis understood that it was never really about the fighting itself. What really counts in the Chronicles of Narnia is whether you have the Lion on your side or not. Aslan is the one who roars, Aslan fights the great and final battles. The weapons are sticks against him and everybody knows it. Amen.
Lewis: okay I'm writing a story what shall I put in it? *spins wheel* ...Father Christmas... *throws dart* ...giving the children weapons... *pulls words from a hat* ...except the one who betrayed his family because of... *rolls a die* Turkish Delight
#I will say it again#when you're a kid in a shitty situation YOU WISH SOMEONE GAVE YOU A WEAPON.#thank you for coming to my ted talk#c.s. lewis#wherethekitethought#narnia#tcon#the chronicles of narnia#narnia franchise
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Narnia Week, Day 5
The Horse and His Boy
Prompt questions by @nothinggold13 !
Favorite character(s) from this book?
I struggled a lot coming up with an answer for this, actually. I love Cor and Aravis greatly for separate reasons. I love Aravis’s ferocity and confidence, yet humility when she meets Aslan. I love Cor’s kind of natural quietness and humble background, and I think it would contribute to his ability to be a great king.
But as for characters who really stand out in my mind for this book, I have to say Lune, oddly enough. It’s been forever since I read this book, so maybe some of the other characters would be my favorite if I reread it before answering this question, lol, but I just really love Lune. He’s a very Soft Dad Figure, and he’s kinda this image of the perfect loving, affectionate, warm father. And I like to believe that he became that father figure for Aravis, too.
Also, shoutout to Hwin. It’s been forever since I read this, like I said, but I will always remember her greeting to Aslan. She goes to him immediately, knowing he presents the Utmost Danger to her, a horse, but she literally says “you may eat me, if you like.” She’d rather her life be given up and even suffer if Aslan decided that was what he wanted, and I think that’s the epitome of loving, trusting faith.
What about this book stands out most in your memory? Are there specific scenes, feelings, themes, or ideas that have stuck with you the most?
Most of you probably know this, but my favorite scene in this book, and possibly in ALL of Narnia, is the scene with Cor and Aslan on the mountain pass. This was one scene I used to read over and over and over and over again. The atmosphere of it is so beautiful--misty mountain pass, with sun beginning to shine through. Aslan shows up, sees that Cor is afraid, comforts him, says “tell me your sorrows” (my HEART), reveals to Cor that he has been guiding him and directing him and even disciplining him all along, throughout his whole life. I love that Cor doesn’t know who Aslan is, and yet is completely overtaken with awe and, I believe, love the moment he sees him. I love that the sun is shining FROM Aslan. I love that Cor slips out of his saddle and falls to his knees because he just can’t help himself. The “who are you?” “Myself.”
I have always loved the part where Lewis says that Cor didn’t know what to say, but “knew he needn’t say anything.” Just the significance of that one line hits me so hard. Even here, Aslan is a comfort to Cor in somehow reassuring him that he doesn’t have to worry about what he’s going to say. And the lion’s kiss, and Aslan disappearing in a swirl of gold...
And as if that wasn’t enough to make your heart burst, Aslan leaves him water to refresh him. And if THAT wasn’t enough, you realize that Aslan was guiding Cor up the mountain so that he didn’t fall off the ledge. And if THAT wasn’t enough still, you learn that Aslan guided Cor straight to where some nice Narnians could help him out, give him food, and let him rest.
Just. Aslan literally takes care of every single need of Cor’s here. Spiritually, he reveals himself to Cor, teaches Cor about him, who he is, etc. Emotionally, he takes away his anxieties, allows him to tell him about the horrible time he’s had (”tell me your sorrows), reassures him that he doesn’t need to DO anything (”needn’t say anything”), and shows him love and affection. Physically, he gets him water, food, and rest, not to mention protects him from falling and solves all of his problems essentially by putting him right where he can get help from the right people.
That scene is beautiful. Seriously one of the best in all of Narnia, in my opinion.
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Chapters: 13/? Fandom: Chronicles of Narnia - C. S. Lewis Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Aravis/Shasta | Cor Characters: Aravis, Shasta | Cor, Prince Rabadash, Lasaraleen, Corin (Narnia) Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Calormen, Archenland, A somewhat grimmer future, Mentions of rape (nothing graphic), Implied Violence, Mentions of Attempted Suicide Summary:
Something went very differently, and Cor and Aravis never met. As two enemy nations crown their new rulers and are faced with the threat of imminent war, Aravis and Cor find themselves dreaming of a mysterious boy and girl, and a life that could have been.
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Charley Horse
Charley Horse by Aravis
Kirishima doesn't feel like he's excelling at the rate his classmates are. Plus, he's pretty sure he has a crush on his... friend (?) Bakugou.
Words: 1949, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: 僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: M/M
Characters: Kirishima Eijirou, Bakugou Katsuki, Mentioned Midoriya Izuku - Character
Relationships: Bakugou Katsuki/Kirishima Eijirou, Bakugou Katsuki & Kirishima Eijirou
Additional Tags: Mental Health Issues, Self-Esteem Issues, Insecure Kirishima Eijirou, low-key pining, Pre-Relationship, sometimes Bakugou has tact but this is only kind of one of those times lmao
Read Here: http://archiveofourown.org/works/21439489
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The Horse and His Boy has always been one of my favourite Narnia books, and I am glad to say that this hasn't changed at all. It's also by far my favourite title. In fact, I dare say, it's my favourite book title in general, not only out of the Narnia books.
I love the way this book is written, from its style through its structure to its characterization. Having read the series only in the chronological order before, it's really interesting to see how Lewis' writing evolved over the course of the series. I can't say it got better, as it was wonderful from the very beginning on, but there is a visible sort of development, which is especially apparent in the characters and world building.
I love the way Shasta/Cor and Aravis are written – both of them are lovely people, but their behaviour is awfully much influenced from their upbringing and experiences. Shasta's distrust in other people, which lead to a sort of selfishness, and Aravis' privileged aloofness, which lead to a sort of ruthlessness – both of which they slowly but steadily grow out – are not part of their natural personalities, not part of their souls, but of what they are taught to be. Both of them have practically opposite backgrounds, but they come down to the same thing: In order to dare to be as good as they truly are, they need to learn about the good in others, and learn to believe in it. They make a wonderful pair. I also very much adore the horses – Hwin's gentle steadfastness and Bree's pompous fallacy are wonderfully written. It's especially of note that, despite them being Talking Horses, Lewis truly showed that he knew horses, and how to write them. They didn't feel like humans in horse bodies – they were truly horses. I also love the other two kids – in some ways, Corin and Lasaraleen are even more charming than the protagonists, although I don't like them more (or less) than them. They are lovable and engaging side characters and simply a joy to read about. I even think they'd get along really well – not at first, certainly not, but they both have such amazing temperaments that would at least be very entertaining to watch interacting. I also really loved the Hermit. He's a fascinating character and I would love to know more about him. I wonder, if maybe he is also a Star or some other, well, unusual person. That aside, it was lovely to see the adult Pevensies – they all were exactly what they were. Susan, the Gentle Queen who didn't fight though she could, and Lucy the Valiant in chain mail and helmet, Peter the Magnificent fighting giants, and Edmund the Just making peace and plans.
In fact – it's lovely to see a glimpse of the Golden Age, which brings me back the extended world building. In The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, the land and time of Narnia were so full of a very particular, tight sort of magic and enchantment. We knew little of the times before, and even less of the lands beyond. At that point, the World of Narnia and the Land of Narnia could have been one and the same, or else, if there had been more lands, they could also been enchanted. And then, all the more of that world we saw was so, so much later. It's amazing to actually see a story happen just a few years after the Long Winter, in two completely different countries, that existed beside Narnia all the time. Just think of it! According to Lewis' own timeline, the events in this book happened fourteen years after the Pevensies came to Narnia, so the children had not been born at that time, but all the adults we see had. There has been normal life in these countries all that time, and for some reason that does feel quite amazing to me, although I can't really explain how and why. It's just a really different feeling for the story – not better or worse, just different. It's also interesting to read a story from the perspective of characters who were born in the World of Narnia, and even more so to read one from the perspective of characters who didn't grow up in the Land of Narnia. It's the only book with no relation to our world, and that's very intriguing.
My favourite scene? I don't know. Probably Aslan's appearances in various shapes. His role was quite unusual compared to His appearances in the other books, and written in a particularly interesting, and sensitive way. The things He said to Shasta/Cor and Aravis were so very individually relevant, and their effect on them so very significant. His encounter with Bree, I dare say, seemed to have a message that went beyond the pages of the book, but I don't want to put anything into Lewis' words that might not actually be there. It's more of a personal feeling than an actual interpretation.
As for the supposed racism in this book, that I know some people will talk about: Do yourself a favour, and educate yourself. To be honest, I suppose me saying this is of no good use, but I don't want to actually discuss this, beyond saying that a lot of the complaints show some underlying racism themselves, and even more so a severe lack of understanding of this book, as well as various Middle Eastern cultures and religions, both ancient and modern. There's so many remarks on this that are made up of dramatic misinformation, and also an uncomfortable array of people who claim to care for social justice, but at the same time seem to believe all sorts of bad and untrue things about the people they supposedly want to protect, yet obviously don't respect. (It his unfortunate, but certainly not Lewis' fault, that some Islamophobic Christians have a dreadful idea of Islam that somehow resembles the Calormene Paganism, but, so do some of the people who accuse Lewis of Islamophobia.) This is on the racism related to real people.
As for the supposed racism inside the story, I dare say, if anything, the Calormenes show more of it than anyone else, and even that is very limited. I already noticed in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, that Lewis preferred to portray the Calormenes in a fairly neutral, and even more so a very interesting way, describing them as a wise, wealthy, courteous, cruel and ancient people. He did this in a way similar to how he described Trumpkin's face, and I've mentioned before that I absolutely adore how Lewis used to set “good” and “bad” adjectives side by side, simply using them as what they are, rather than a form of judgement. He also did this for the personalities of various characters – such as Edmund and Eustace – and on plenty of other occasions and matters. It's also of note, that all criticism of Calormen was in regards to its politics and some traditions, and never were the people portrayed to be bad based on their race, which played no role at all, or their culture, which was described to be a very beautiful one.
Personally, I find the Calormenes to be highly fascinating to begin with. I mentioned the difference reading the books in the original order makes in regards to the world building, and – with The Magician's Nephew not yet written at that time – I wonder how the Calormenes got to Narnia. I mean, not only how, but from where. Of course, the Telmarines are already proof enough, that after the creation of Narnia there have been people from our world getting there, long before the Pevensies came, but also – long after Frank and Helen came. And that's the interesting thing. Because the Creation of Narnia shows that it happened when in our world, it was the late 19th century, we cannot know since when Lewis had that in mind. The Telmarines were pirates, and the Calormenes seem to come from a very ancient, at least pre-Islamic (if not older than that) Middle East. And at this point, I wonder, was Narnia meant to have been created earlier?
I think it wasn't. I actually think they seem so old, because of the very long time they've been in Narnia! (I mean the World, of course.) Narnia isn't an antique or even medieval world, even though many make it out to be. From the very first book on, Narnia was almost modern – they had the lamppost, after all, even before we learned how it got there, they has sewing machines, fairly modern books, houses that resembled actual modern houses like the house Coriakin lived in, and all sorts of other things that show that there has been a sort of modern influence in Narnia all the time. The Telmarines could have been more or less modern Pirates, who somehow had to adjust to the place, and so did – even earlier – the Calormenes. They used what they had, and somehow adjusted to a live that, even a thousand years after the Long Winter, seemed older than that. And while the Calormene religion is, in terms of inspiration, based on Babylonian religions, the actual religion of the Calormenes is based in their world, and while not religiously True, based around at least one very real deity, which proves that they actually developed the cult around Tash through Tash and on Tash, after coming to Calormen. They might have been normal, modern people from somewhere in West to South Asia, who applied knowledge of their own ancient religions to what they saw in Narnia, and while only a few decades passed in our world, their old and new views and experiences mingled over the millenniums that passed over in Calormen into the culture we finally got to see. I mean – think of the Pevensies, who went on to become quite medieval in style and manners, too. If they could come to Narnia as completely modern people, and then change like that in less than fifteen years, why shouldn't others do so over thousands and thousands of years? I think this is all quite fascinating. Some might think that the fact that Narnia is not really an “independent” world makes it somehow less interesting, less intricate, but I think the way people get there, and bring things into the world, and change and adjust them, is amazing and a completely different sort of world building.
Also!!! It has been hinted that there are even more countries than the ones we know!!! Which is so amazing!!! And makes me so excited!!! The world actually goes on beyond Calormen!!! And Calormen is huge, oh my!!!
By the way, I love the name Breehy-hinny-brinny-hoohy-hah, and I suppose Hwin also is short for a horsey name. According to Wikipedia, it's probably a contraction of “Hwinhynym”. That would be nice!
I cannot really choose a serious favourite quote (there's just too many!) so I'll go with this one: “Even though Education and all sorts of horrible things are going to happen to me.” I also don't really think I have a favourite chapter.
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Also as another example of that trope that modern normies might know, but with cool fairytale beasties and talking critters instead of brown Hollywood Natives (TV Tropes link): Didn't Clive Staples partly base Jadis on Ayesha, the villain of She? I mean Jadis is literally called the White Witch, holy shit how did I not remember her when I first made the post.
On the other hand Jadis's extreme pallor in the first book is revealed in the prequel to be an unnatural side effect from a forbidden apple of immortality, no Lewis was not subtle why do you ask. And in addition to Ayesha, Jadis's depiction in the prequel also takes a lot from the Babylonian queen in E. Nesbit's Story of the Amulet, who from what I skimmed on Project Gutenberg is characterized as exotic and not described as paler than her subjects. (A few Black characters are mentioned in the background in servile positions, but I gather they're supposed to be seen as servile to all the rest of Babylon, not just to the queen.) Hell even Ayesha is described as originally hailing from SW Asia/the Middle East too, though she's white compared to the local population in East Africa, where She takes place.
Also it should go without saying that if you decide to go pick up those Nesbit and Haggard books, wew lads be prepared for a whole fuckload of British colonial racism. At least with Lewis you can skip the worst bits because he saved it for the polarizing Gainax Ending (yeah another TV Tropes link) and the interquel. Also at least Aravis from the interquel kicks ass, and she and Lasaraleen were totally an item.
So I'm listening to She: A History of Adventure by H. Rider Haggard. It's funny how "white woman ruling a remote tribe in Africa or wherever" was a whole thing in colonial adventure fiction, but the only echoes of that trope that normies are likely to encounter in modern culture are Katy Perry in her "Dark Horse" video and possibly Miss Piggy in Muppet Treasure Island.
#time keeps on slipping slipping slipping into the future#tropes#race#racism#colonialism#adventure fiction#h. rider haggard#h rider haggard#miss piggy#the muppets#muppet treasure island#katy perry#the chronicles of narnia#narnia#white witch#jadis#jadis the white witch#e. nesbit#e nesbit#the story of the amulet#and by extension i figure i should tag the first book in nesbit's series#five children and it#children's literature#children's books#kid lit#kidlit#shower thought#shower thoughts#tv tropes
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The Horse and His Boy (The Chronicles of Narnia, Book Three) - C.S. Lewis
I got bored halfway through this one and took a break from it. But overall it was a good book.
I enjoyed the main characters and their story lines, especially that they all wanted better for themselves so decided to escape from the life they were given.
I didn’t like Aravis at first because I thought she was to set in her ways to be of any help to the other three, but when she was determined to get back to them after they split up in Tashbaan I knew she was loyal. I was really fond of the two horses.
I felt so much sympathy for Shasta/ Cor. He should have been so sad to learn that the man that raised him was willing to sell him to a stranger without blinking an eye, but he took it as an opportunity to do what he always dreamed of. He never thought about giving up in any tough situation he found himself in, he was so brave.
Lewis had a hell of an imagination, I’ll give it to him. When I started the Narnia series I wasn’t expecting to read about multiple countries with so many different creatures and people. I assumed that Narnia was the only setting in the series, but I’m pleasantly surprised.
I’m wondering if all of these characters are going to somehow tie together in the end. I hope so. So far Lucy, Edmund, Susan, Peter, and Aslan have been a constant, and the White Witch has been at least mentioned in each book. There was nothing about the professor in the third book so we’ll see if he pops up another time. I’ve been waiting to read further about the first King and Queen that surfaced in The Magician’s Nephew, not sure why though.
I find it odd reading about the four Kings and Queens of Narnia knowing they will go back into the wardrobe at some point to resume their old lives.
I thought the ending of this book was cute and had a happy ending except I would have liked to read more about how the horses got along after finally reaching Narnia. Do Narnian horses roll?
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by Aravis
Recovering from an injury, Izuku just wants his damn heat to end. And for Bakugou to explain why he gave him Ground Zero merch as a get-well present.
Words: 1565, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: 僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: M/M
Characters: Midoriya Izuku, Bakugou Katsuki, Todoroki Shouto, Uraraka Ochako
Relationships: Bakugou Katsuki/Midoriya Izuku
Additional Tags: Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics, Mating Cycles/In Heat, Pro Hero Midoriya Izuku, Pro Hero Bakugou Katsuki, mentioned Endhawks, Major Character Injury
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Narnia Fandom Read Along - March: The Horse and His Boy
Favorite Quote: “‘Please,’ she said, ‘you’re so beautiful. You may eat me if you like. I’d sooner be eaten by you than fed by anyone else.’” HWIN IS SO UNDERRATED
Favorite Character: Aravis. I’m always a sucker for female characters who dress up as men to escape and go on adventures (I blame it on Mulan). A close second is Hwin. ✨They are a dynamic duo✨
Favorite Chapter: Aravis in Tashbaan. I like learning about the Calormen culture, and it’s very exciting when they are sneaking around the palace. I also I have to mention that even though Lasaraleen is painted as a silly girl, she still helps Aravis escape and does all she can so that she can go and live the life she wants. (Btw I am not trying to suck up to @lasaraleen by saying this, I just think she’s a solid friend lol)
Favorite Scene: Shasta meeting Aslan in the mist. I think this is one of my favorite Aslan encounters, mostly because he just starts out as this Voice that’s kind of ominous and full of power and then Shasta slowly realizes what he is, and when the mist clears he just falls at Aslan’s feet.
(FYI I haven’t been giving ratings because all of the books are 5/5 for me, so I just don’t even bother lol)
#the horse and his boy#the chronicles of narnia#narnia#c s lewis#narnia fandom read-along#narnia fandom read along
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Which Narnia character(s) do you think are the most underrated?
I’m gonna say Peter Pevensie. I know he’s still well-liked in the fandom, but very often he gets brushed aside in favour of Edmund, and he deserves BETTER.
Any character who has not yet appeared in a movie in generally underappreciated outside of the book fandom. Sure, everyone LOVES the Pevensies, (I do too, who am I kidding?) but a lot of them don’t know the other friends of Narnia. So basically Digory, Polly, Jill, Cor, and Aravis.
Eustace Scrubb. He did appear in one movie (and I suppose 2 of the BBC adaptions) but I still think he’s underrated.
It’s beginning to look like I just think literally every character deserves more love… which is probably true.
Aunt Letty. She took 0 nonsense from Jadis, and handled being thrown across the living room like a pro.
The housemaid at the Ketterleys, who was having a beautifully exciting morning.
FRANK AND HELEN. The first King and Queen of Narnia!!!
Corin. He’s absolutely ridiculous and wonderful.
Wimbleweather the Giant. He makes a mistake in battle and then cries about it afterwards, and he’s just a big giant baby that needs a hug.
Trufflehunter the Badger. I’m extremely grateful for a character whose entire mantra is “I don’t change. I hold on.”
Doctor Cornelius!
Ramandu’s Daughter!!!
Also in the movie, Drinian is a GRADE A CHARACTER. I don’t remember anything particular about him in the book (except that he’s supposed to be good looking), but his lines and the other characters’ reactions to them in the movie is hilarious.
Rilian! He’s a good, utterly devoted boy.
Tirian! Also a good boy. A little bit rash sometimes, but faithful and good-hearted.
Jewel the unicorn. Brave and noble and loyal and he also tells Jill stories!
Puzzle the donkey. Absolute sweetheart. Deserved a better friend than Shift (and got some.)
Poggin the Dwarf. He was brave, and he was also polite enough to ask Tirian and then Jill’s permission before smoking his pipe.
Emeth. Precious boy. Misled, but ultimately faithful and good. Lucy likes him, so you know there must be something special about him.
Now, if there’s any characters I didn’t mention, it’s probably because they’re so underrated that I honestly forgot about them. All the good Narnian characters deserve all of the love.
Thanks for asking!
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