#not hate to prev lol i agree with you fully fam

[pftones3482]

I'm not sorry, actually, for being tired of Doof.

They add him to EVERYTHING. Season 4 basically took over as the Doof show - there are more Heinz centered episodes than I can count in Season 4, yet I can barely name more than a handful of Big Ideas, even AFTER more recently watching the show. The episode with the most balance was literally the Where's Perry special (and I'm biased, but Happy Birthday Isabella - it meshes the B plot with Stacy's C plot in a perfect way). They also added him in (infomercial style) to Hamster and Gretel more recently and I literally rolled my eyes and groaned out loud.

And don't even get me STARTED on MML and how adding Doof in to the second season flopped the show. MML aired over a full year after PnF ended, and season 2 didn't start until FOUR YEARS LATER. I feel like we forget that there was such a big gap between the end of PnF and the beginning of season 2 of MML.

Meaning that by the time MML season 2 aired, there was a whole new generation of watchers on Disney. And bc Season one didn't include PnF virtually at all, none of the new watchers would really CARE about the PnF characters. Adding Doof? Added a new, annoying character out of nowhere to a show that didn't need him with viewers that knew nothing about him. MML was doing wonderfully on its own, there was no need to add a (pardon my French) washed up has-been to it.

Also...without Perry there, Doof is obnoxious. He's loud, and grating, and doesn't have a plot purpose. They added him to MML purely because Dan can't let go of his successes and is stuck in the past.

Dan also, in his love of his own character, has forgotten I think what made Phineas and Ferb popular in the first place: the fucking kids.

You ask any non-fandom member what episodes of Phineas and Ferb they remember most, and their answers are ALWAYS: "the one where they become popstars" "the one where they built a rollercoaster" "where they built a beach" "when they met that alien/went to space" "where they got that band back together!"

I have never once in my life had a non-fandom member describe the show by the B plot. Sure, they remember the B-plot. But that wasn't what made the show memorable to the average viewer.

It was two boys, their sister, and their friends doing absolutely wild shit during summer vacation.

I have a love in my heart for Doof, I swear. But as we get closer to the new season and I get more and more nervous that they're going to just make it PnF Season 4/MML Season 2 (Part 2) again, I find myself really, really resenting and hating his character.

I'm not sorry for that.

And yeah. They SHOULD be exes for shits and giggles. It'd be better than whatever Doof plot I'm sure they've currently got cooking.

I made a post about this ages ago but I have to say it again:

If they give us Perryshm*rtz (literally a romantic relationship between a man and an ANIMAL) in the new season but not ACTUAL FUCKING GAY REP, I'm done with Dan and Swampy. I am at the point of this where I truly just don't want Doof in the new season at all. I'm sick of him being the star of PHINEAS AND FERB.