#nor is he the 'only person in his family with a braincell' wtf

[thelordofgifs]

hot take but you guys are maybe a little too obsessed with elrond. he's just a guy.

[walks-the-ages]

So I didn't watch the 2 new episodes, just looked at spoilers, I saw the gif you shared with Adrien destroying the chimney and just wtf, Adrien stans downplayed it, they made it seem like it wasn't that bad or just because he felt left out, so I assumed it was that.

I should've known something was wrong when people who don't even hate Adrien nor post Adrien salt was even like wtf, or saying it was weird, creepy, and gross. Saw the gif, and I am flabbergasted people saw this and hyped it up, or/and defended it. Him saying "the only two people plan is ladybug and I" doesn't sound like feeling left out, or else just like in that episode where everything was flooded he would've complained about secrets or telling left out.

That was just him being possessive af, and even IF that wasn't the shows intention, it still came off like that, and he reacted with violent anger? AND it paralleled hawkmoth at the end of the episode also having a violent tantrum.

Yeesh, also people letting him off the hook because "hEs yOunG", I like Adrien and all but what is with people coddling young white boys, I've seen similar with Simon from infinity train who is 10x worse.

When he pushed Grace off the train, I didn't see the episode at first and took people word for it who was trying to downplay it/make him look better, I watched the episode and he literally thought about it and pushed her off in anger and it just had me like wtf.

Idk whats with fanbases and coddling blond white boys but they look super weird for it, I'm over Adrienette now, I've been feeling like this for awhile because they've acted super toxic with one another, but this takes the cake. Ayanette is the new wave.

Anyway, sorry for this long anon, that's all I want to say, hope your day/night/evening is well :)

Oh wait, anon from before, with the recent episode and Nino being possessive over Alya rubs me the wrong way, I, as a black person, already have issues with the only black/brown characters being attached hand and hip that they become a unit (literally too, which is so side eye-y on Thomas part) and being together because they're not white/white passing.

This happens so frequently and media and people assuming the only black/brown people they know should get together because of above despite them not even knowing one another, it's such a frequent microaggression that people subconsciously even do it and not realise how wrong it is. That now, Nino who has not characterization outside of Alya, finally gets something more centered around him, and it's about NOT being a unit with alya and attached hand and hip.

He who literally had a whole boys only get together, is upset because he couldn't even come into her room when her and Marinette need to talk, and now the newest episode. This wouldn't have been as bad if it didn't come off possessive, similar to the fuck up with Adrien feeling left out, it became more so about jealousy and possessiveness rather than feeling neglected in his relationship with her.

There was so many other ways to do this, and hell, and learning lesson. But this show as a bad tendency of hypocrisy and making girls responsible for boys, rather than boys learning their lesson, that instead of Nino learning not to stalk his gf and not to be possessive and needy/clingy and jealous with no evidence, it because Alya being responsible for his shit because she was keeping RIGHTFUL secrets.

And I say rightfully because he went and told Adrien their identities, literally AFTER he had seen Hawkmoth target her family for being Rena, messing up the fact by everyone she's not supposed to be Rena anymore. You know, if he connected his braincells together he would know him seeing her as Rena more means there's bigger issues ahead and he would more so approach her/be upset that she's not making time for him, which is more reasonable and not some Chat Noir bullcrap.

Nino would also acknowledge telling anyone, even his closest friend is a bad idea, now Alya gotta tell him shit she really shouldn't have to so he can feel better, instead of, as I said, him realizing not to be jealous and possessive.

It's like when ladybug rejected [Adrien] and he got all angsty and she had to apologise, it's getting annoying.

Bonus to the fact she has to tell him her secrets but he never told her that he outted both of them to Adrien, it's so disrespectful and contradictory. Why is he not held to the same standard? Especially since for her [life] more is on the line.

I love Nino but this was so disappointing, I'm mad they did this to him, but it shows how this show views the boys vs the girls.

I have not seen these episodes yet, but Anon, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head.

The only reason Alya and Nino are together is because they're both non-white passing; Nino supposedly had a crush on Marinette, but apparently got over that in the span of five seconds so he could conviently start dating Alya instead.

Nino, as you said, has almost no personality in the show, because it changes to suit the plot like everything else. But when Nino DOES have interactions with other people? It's literally always for Adrien's benefit, narratively or in-universe, including his first ever appearance.

You would think, in a universe where characters were characters instead of props, that Nino Lahiffe, who does parkour in the streets to train to be a better hero, would protect his identity and his girlfriends secret identity WITH HIS LIFE!

But no, because Nino is a cardboard cutout designed to get the ML crew brownie points for "diversity", he goes and tells Adrien their identies literally just so that Adrien now has one more excuse to turn into a villain when it inevitably goes down that he join's Hawkmoth because Marinette has once again told him to stop flirting with her, or that he needs to get his act together, or that he needs to help protect civilians instead of endangering them.

At this point, even his greatest stans are convinced he's going to have a 'breakdown' and join Hawkmoth.

The difference, though?

They're cheering, waiting for the day that Adrien gives Marinette hell to pay, backing up their cheers with claims that he's justified in whatever he does, and further cementing just how damaging Miraculous Ladybug's message is for it's target audience of young children, if this is how the ADULTS are reacting to Adrien's entitled ass letting people die on his watch and going around destroying people's homes when he's not getting his way.

I would say Adrien's behavior and the show can't get any worse, but we all know it will, twisting the narrative to suit Adrien's pity party all the while.