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I wanna read the Odyssey again
#never thought those words would come out of my mouth#but it’s genuinely so good??#I never expected it to give me THAT many feels#but here we are#I even kinda…like it better than epic#look I LOVE epic#don’t get me wrong#but I love the complexity of the old story#the humanity of it#of odysseus#a mere man up against insurmountable odds#a man with so much blood on his hands#so much trauma from the war#that he cries when he hears his deeds sung#a man who died but didn’t#who loves his family more than anything#AAAUUUGHH#no wonder this story is a classic#I really see it now#it’s amazing#trin rambles#anyway I’m gonna read the Iliad first#but I’m totally rereading it soon
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"I'm being followed Curio. I'm being followed by heaven knows who," is the first thing Imelda Pulse says to Hunch Curio in her introductory scene in episode one of Mentopolis. The first thing. Impulse. Being followed. Following your impulses. I've been sleeping for two weeks and I've just sat bolt upright sweating. All the powerful parts of the brain, all the logic and ambition and avarice. They have goals. They have plans. And yet at the end of the day what are they stuck doing? Helplessly following impulse and trying and failing to control her.
#dimension 20 mentopolis#imelda pulse#siobhan thompson#dimension 20#mentopolis#hunch curio#I'm not 100% sure I got the quote right I haven't actually seen that ep in like 2 weeks be nice to me pls#god it's just such a good use a classic noir trope to tell the specific story of this world I wonder how long Siobhan was sitting on that
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I just found out that Disney+ made their home page all eras themed categories on the day the tour movie dropped. Not to compliment Disney or anything, but this is so fucking funny.😆
But also be real, Echo would be in Reputation. What the fuck were they thinking putting it in Fearless? Also Robin Hood in Lover? As opposed to Folklore...come on it was right there! (I also think Peter Pan and Wendy would be more appropriate in Folklore...considering there's literally a lyric in Cardigan about them). And 1989 is all just stuff that was released that year!? I'm wheezing right now!
*edit* If I had to pick things that would go in Debut, I think I'd pick a lot of the Pixar movies. All 4 Toy Story movies (but especially TS2). Luca. Up. Inside Out. I'd also put some of the early Disney channel shows like Lizzie Mcguire, That's So Raven, and Hannah Montana, obviously. Though Kim Possible would be in Fearless. It would be funny if they had made it a category and just put shows/movies with names for titles in it 😆
#taylor swift#eras tour#eras tour movie#disney#it makes me wonder how my favorite movies would be categorized#HSMTMTS would be in red because of all the relationship drama#would treasure planet be in midnights? folklore (because it's based on a classic story)? fearless?#ice princess would be in speak now obviously#would Mulan be in Reputation because of the themes around keeping family honor? or Fearless?
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I love Wonder Woman very much and I love her potential to explore themes of truth’s different meanings and violence against women and what it means for trauma to be passed on or processed in different circumstances but unfortunately all this potential is snubbed by her support of the military vis a vis her solider boyfriend and her origins as a character designed to encourage women to join the war effort. I think if you wanted to give her story real impact and meaning this would have to be completely removed and as such I long for a universe where Etta and the Holliday Girls are an internationally touring band and Steve is their loser friend who manages the finance and Diana follows them all around as the friend who can’t hold an apartment
#dc#my new story Wonder Woman goes couch surfing#which iirc already happened in the 80s but still#the internationally touring aspect would still give her stories a reason to be global instead of connected to a particular city#and would place Etta more centrally in the story I feel like a lot of WW comics aren’t sure what to do with her#and I think it would be fun and whimsical.. imagine Diana sneaking around to prevent#some sort of sinister sabotage at a music festival while Etta is performing onstage and trying to give her clues as to#where to go next and what to do.. classic funny#I have many ideas for this sort of WW rewrite but a lot of them are so divorced from the source material via#the ground up wiping of Steve’s backstory and character so I get nervous about sharing them LOL#Wonder Woman
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okay so i virtually never talk about the fnaf fixation that has plagued me since 2015, but i think some of you are lying when you say there's anything more than 3-5 games. what are you talking about, fnaf 3 was the last one, or possibly fnaf 4.
what the hell is a henry emily or a security breach. yeah you sure are breaching that security aren't you
( i am gaslighting you; i know what a henry emily is & i know what security breach is, i simply think it is for the better we disregard them )
#twinkie talks#i lost track of where the lore was going after the silver eyes & the books became prominent honestly#i mean fnaf 4 was a pivoting point as it was but god damn#it took me. YEARS to realize who henry or charlie or whomever you are talking about is#sorry this got spurred from suddenly reading a catalogue of fnaf discourse after a long day#babygirl i have all kinds of fnaf takes you would hate to hear#including but not limited to! i don't care about the daycare attendees remotely#LIKE. okay no they're honestly cute little extras to an already bloated story & they're interesting in of themselves#i wonder about that dynamic. but otherwise. i miss the classic animatronics#where are they i have not seen them in years. does anyone care#anyway random ass posting AS usual
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#queer#harvest moon#story of seasons#it’s a wonderful life#story of seasons it’s a wonderful life#harvest moon it’s a wonderful life#classic games
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Ashton performing with Eternity Speedway @ Desert 5 Spot LA - 11 April 2024
#ok hi i actually went insane finding watching and editing these clips in case you were wondering#5sos#5 seconds of summer#ashton#ashton irwin#eternity speedway#video#kh4f post#like ok ok ok#there were so many reasons why i didn't even consider going down there tonight#but i sure would have thought about it a little more if i knew Ashton singing (whilst! drumming! WHILST!) the eagles was in play 😭😭😭😭#also that hungry heart cover is actually insane#this setlist is actually so good#those who have suffered thru many an ig story of my spotify daylist will understand why this speaks to my silly lil classic rock heart#anyways this looks like it was a lot of fun for crowd and band alike and i love that for all#also PSA i have finally and officially divorced myself from Twitter (it feels so good omfg)#so while i doubt they're into this content (lmao) if anyone comes across anything over there that i missed here pls pass it along 🫶🏻#but IG served up a lot more content than i expected tbqh so I'm v pleased with the night's offerings#but fr Eternity Speedway pls don't be a fly by night one off like Heaven Electric turned out to be I need more of this in my life ohmygod
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Hyrule and Wars make a splash!
Hyrule loves to tease the others and Warriors expressive moments make getting a reaction out of him all the funnier.
#nan scribbles#linked universe#mermay#lu warriors#lu hyrule#Returning to my classic one pen style!#Wars is the most nervous around Hyrule's poisonous skin#I wonder if there's a story there#:)
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From Air Wonder Stories, November 1929.
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Teruko and Yosano should've faced off. I think Yosano should've been posed that question that Atsushi was; that reveal of the "future war" - Teruko went along with Fukuchi out of a mix of indebtedness and being at a loss for what to do. War is all she's known; of course she doesn't know. But Yosano has been to the depths of despair and come back out of it again. She might've faltered at this horrific reminder of her trauma, but when it comes down to it, she saves the lives before her. She fought for a way back to light and life. I just think there could've been a really interesting conflict there. And it would've made Teruko's role much more tragic if she wanted desperately for there to be a third option but just didn't have enough time to sit with it and process what that third option might be before Fyodor made it all go to hell.
Also a fight between them would've been interesting, because Teruko is much physically stronger than Yosano, but Yosano can heal from any physical injury inflicted. However, since we now know Teruko can alter mental age, she could inflict psychological wounds by de-aging her, which would've been a good callback to the horrors of war in her backstory, and also been a nice bit of foreshadowing for Teruko actually being a child.
Teruko eventually allowing Yosano to leave out that door after seeing her resolve would've been a deeply bittersweet and powerful moment, I think, especially in hindsight after her backstory reveal.
#look i love atsushi's response in that scene - it's a wonderful bit of character development for him to choose to walk out that door#i wrote a meta about it even#but it didn't go anywhere. and with teruko being present and having such an impact at the climax of the arc#her tragedy would've hit harder if she'd had literally any moment of relation with a member of the main cast.#also atsushi didn't even really do anything with the info. it was literally just to tell the audience that there was more to the story#his conflict really should've focused solely around sskk's previous failure and akutagawa's sacrifice#and meursault arc should not have been so prevalent. sorry.#either that or they should've kept dazai and fyodor contained and had sigma nikolai and chuuya be the main actors. but whatever#the arc should've been more focused on fukuzawa ranpo yosano fukuchi teruko and tachihara#from the start.#see i actually think the twists are fun and good but man i do wish we actually had the time to sit on them.#the emotional core is there it's just... buried under shock value plot twists. doa arc is a tragedy. let us sit with the tragedy.#fukuchi is a tragic figure by which i don't mean he makes me sad but like. a classical tragic figure. he was doomed from the moment#he went to war.#his desperation to avert another caused him to go hurtling down the path of no return. to hurt his friend ironically because he had#unshakeable faith in him#fukuzawa and fukuchi are the emotional core#the themes are war and desperation.#those only became fully evident at the very end. there was some great set up then the middle became a bit. muddled? to me?#i just think we needed to have picked a few focal characters and stuck with them. imo.#eh ignore me i'm not even really complaining i'm just thinking#bsd#storyrambles#random thoughts
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Can you make a tutorial on how you world build and make ocs? I can't seem to make any people in my brain, but then when I try to come up with environments jobs, beliefs and little details to slowly come up with someone, I think: well I don't really know how people have influenced the world- it's a weird loop
To be honest, I don't think I can! Writing is an extremely personal process. The way I write is directly related to how I process things, what I find important in stories, years of my own analysis of my and other's writing, etc... The way you write will be unique to you, as well. But I can explain how I personally think of it.
The short answer:
Write. Write anything and everything, it's a tool to explore your ideas. Analyze your own writing, and write more. Then, as you discover which ideas you want to develop, write more to explore them more. You won't know what you want otherwise!
The long answer:
I think this kind of loop is common. It's easy to feel like everything needs to be done "at once," because our job as writers is to make elements logically fit with each other for our readers. But as you've discovered, developing multiple elements simultaneously isn't really possible, or at least is extremely difficult.
Personally, when I think of writing, I break it into three major elements; characters, world, and plot. As much as possible every scene explores one or more of these, and as much as possible these three things tie back into what I personally consider most important: theme.
Everything I do is in service of the themes I want to present. Without them my events feel aimless. It can take a while to discover them, but they're the core of my work. You will have to discover what you feel is the core of yours. Analyzing other media helps with this too.
Concepts in your brain exist in a state of infinite potential. But when you start writing you have to start making choices, which removes potential as you move forward... But you have to move forward anyways. If there's ideas you want to explore later, you can always explore them later.
What this ends up meaning, to answer your question, is that I don't think of my characters as "people in my brain" or my worlds as something people have influenced... Not at their core, at least. They are tools that I use to represent specific ideas. Obviously they're also my blorbos, but mostly they're serving a specific narrative purpose.
So above all else... Write. Write, and discover what you're writing about, and then start over and write with that in mind. Keep doing this. But you have to write!
#I wish there were a cleaner answer to this kind of thing#and I also wish that there were a way to answer that didnt feel like 'just do it lol'#but... genuinely you kind of just have to do it!#I find it helps to reframe writing as trying to figure out which ideas I don't like#then if I write anything that feels bad to me#it's not about being a bad writer or anything like that. it's just something I dont want in my story and I delete it.#like if you find yourself naturally coming up with worldbuilding elements. its okay to just start there!#you can start like 'I really want giant mushrooms' and then start thinking about how cool that would be#and like oooh what if there were really cool caves full of mushrooms and all glowy yeaaah#then you start building people from that. colonies of fungal people or something. this is still worldbuilding#then you might think now. whats a plot that could go with this and show off my cool mushrooms.#maybe the mushrooms are all connected and the main one is dying and no one knows why. it's a classic plot.#if you still dont feel like you can find a character in that. keep going! why is it dying? how can it be saved? can it? if not then why?#etc etc etc. when I am writing I actually ltierally write out 101 questions like this as I'm going and then I answer them#and if I cant answer them. then I figure out a different situation that doesnt bring that question up LMFAO#eventually you can decide you want a hero who idfk will replace the big mushroom or something. a sacrifice and immortality simultaneously#then you can be like yeah so my themes are probably about sacrifice. connection to others. love for your community. stuff like that#and then you can go back to your world and say. yeah I think that people should have telepathic communication on some level!#I'm just making all this up right now but I just want to illustrate somehow how this kind of cyclical process can actually be a tool#because it's not about getting it all right at once. its about leaning into the cycle and how it guides you through developing these#anyways idk if this makes any sense. if this doesnt feel like it works for you then it probably literally doesnt#but writing more and analyzing writing more is ALWAYS good#it will never make your writing worse to do those things.#unfortunately (said with all the love in the world) writing is an endless process of learning more about who you are and what you care abou#its wonderful but it's hard and theres no way to skip that process#good luck!#asks#anon#writing stuff#oh also if at any point you go hm. that big thing isnt working for me I think...
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Wonder Cookie
Wonder Story
Glass Bottle of Tears
Perfume of Wonderland
Wonder Party
#poll#angelic pretty#alice in wonderland#alice in wonderland prints#sweet lolita#classic lolita#sweet lolita fashion#classic lolita fashion#glass bottle of tears#wonder party#wonder cookie#wonder story#perfume of wonderland#kira imai#alice#perfume print#tea party print#food print#story print#sweet ollie tag
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“Crusader,” Phases of the Moon Knight (Vol. 1/2024), #1.
Writer: Benjamin Percy; Artist: Rod Reis; Letterer: Cory Petit
#Marvel#Marvel comics#Marvel 616#Phases of the Moon Knight#Moon Knight comics#latest release#Cassian#Khonshu#there’s this thing that Mr. Reis does in this story that drives me absolutely feral#I didn’t actually notice until I was flipping through the physical copy I purchased (there’s my unsponsored plug#to support the comics industry) but the edges of the panel boxes are typically imperfect like they were drawn free-hand but generally neat#EXCEPT (as in here) when Khonshu shows up and then the panel boxes become jagged and irregular and as if they’re coming apart#as if Khonshu’s mere presence is starting to fray Cassian’s reality#furthermore there are moments where it’s like Khonshu’s touching Cassian’s very mind and that’s where you get#big expansive colorful sections acting as a wonderful visual metaphor for Khonshu expanding Cassian’s perception#beyond normal human bounds#it’s such a fascinating variation on/combining of the classical literary conflict of man vs. god with the postmodern conflict#of man vs. reality (with a touch of man vs. author too)#and I love how well that plays into Moon Knight comics (and I’m thinking of Mr. Smallwood’s work on vol. 8 specifically tbh)
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Thinking about Elody and The Princesses and the continual concept of "something is wrong in our stories" and-
There's not really anything wrong with Elody's story from her side of things. In her version (where she kisses Gerard), her parents were alive and loving-
She got to know Gerard and laugh and giggle and fall in love and get married-
Maybe she thinks SHE'S the wrong thing in Gerard's story
That what's wrong in her story is what happened cruelly and unjustly to Gerard and that his humanity is tied to something as fickle as love
Elody wants to fuck over the fairies on behalf of a husband punished for being a kid then forcibly strapped to a woman he might be incompatible with because he doesn't want to die as a frog
Elody takes control to fight for injustice and protecting people, and Gerard is one of her people, is of her kingdom now
She won't claim a marriage to him because maybe that's something he never wanted
Elody is fighting because she's not really the princess in her story, Gerard is
#elody of greenleigh#dimension 20#dimension 20 neverafter#neverafter#prince gerard of greenleigh#neverafter gerard#listen not to say elody wouldnt have massive complaints about her story#but wondering from the other side if all elody feels is love and pity#and this burning fear that someone wouldn't choose her without being forced to#and maybe she wants to free gerard because she thinks she can free herself from this fear#that if he had a choice hed likely go#but god does she hope without all the magic and danger#gerard would still choose her#that she didnt fall for the most classic blunder of someone only wanting her because shes a princess
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Silurian Speculative Ancestry
Edit: Updated to reference Suminisans
Prelude – Meta-Origins of Silurians
It is of note that the Silurians, upon original development, were very much intended to effectively be ‘dinosaur people’. With their reptilian appearance being indicative of the pre-Avian, pre-Jurassic Park reptilian dinosaur conception. Though with JP-style avian dinosaurs being depicted in both Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and Deep Breath among others, as well as the newer designs of the Silurians themselves, make such an origin retroactively very tenuous in Universe.
Their two names from their first couple of stories, ‘Silurians’ and ‘Eocenes’, reflect two eras of history in which they are implied to originate, though both raise massive chronological problems with regards to how their depicted, especially in later works but even in their early ones. The Silurian era (444-415 million years ago) predates the emergence of reptiles entirely (310-320 million years ago) whereas the Eocene (56-34 million years ago) postdates the Dinosaurs but also still predates humanity (300,000 years ago), the homo genus (2.8 million years ago) and Hominids (22 million years ago).
And the ‘Silurian dating controversy’ only gets worse the more Silurian stories got written over time, as various pieces of media date them anywhere between less than 1 million years ago to 65 million years ago to 1 billion years ago (Which is pre Multicellular life). This exacerbated by the idea that the Moon’s capture was the reason for the Silurian hibernation, a theory that was since superseded by the Theia impact theory in modern scientific consensus and either way would have been dated to the early Solar System.
Thus for the interest of Speculative Biology I have thrown out all specific absolute dates and specific geological events associated with the Silurians in favour of hashing together an origin that makes conceptual sense for the Silurians as a prehistoric sentient Earthbound species based on what knowledge of modern biology I happen to have, as well as what jives with the overall ideas of the DWU.
Speculative Evolution
Speciation
Template
Scientific Name – Colloquial Identifier for this writeup (DWU Name/Origin Story)
Genus
Bipeslacertia – Reptilian Kindred, Suminisans (Credit Tara) (Earth Reptiles)
Species
Bipeslacertia vehemenus – Primitive Ancestor (Primitive Ancestor)
Bipeslacertia volans – “Winged Kindred” (Winged Earth Reptiles)
Bipeslacertia diabolus – Sea Devils, Aquatic Kindred (Sea Devils)
Bipeslacertia homines – Silurians (Silurians, Eocenes)
Mondasian Parallel Evolution
Bipeslacertia diabolus abastrius – Sea Kings (Mondasian Sea Devils)
Bipeslacertia homines abastrius – Lizard Kings (Mondasian Silurians)
Subspecies (Winged Kindred)
Bipeslacertia volans mortuus – “Paleocenes” (Winged Species – Adolescence of Time)
Bipeslacertia volans malakhi – Wyrm Callers (Wyrm infected Paleocenes)
Bipeslacertia volans vivus – Luadans (TM: A Morphology/Reign of the Reptiles)
Bipeslacertia volans aurori – Zori (Reign of the Reptiles/Revelry of the Redacted)
Subspecies (Sea Devil)
Bipeslacertia diabolus sicutsimiae – Late Sea Devils (Comic Sea Devils)
Bipeslacertia diabolus sicuturtus – Early Sea Devils (Normal Sea Devils)
Bipeslacertia diabolus reditius – “Devolved Ones” (Inhabitants of the Nameless City – HP Lovecraft/Faction Paradox)
Subspecies (Silurian)
Bipeslacertia homines malus – Serad-dur (Serad-dur)
“Scholar” Caste
Bipeslacertia homines augurius – Fair Folk (Fair Folk- The Shadows of Avalon)
Bipeslacertia homines sapentia – “Senior” Silurians (Chibnall’s original classic style redesign – Cold Blood)
Bipeslacertia homines rostrata – “Middle” Silurians (Warriors of the Deep Silurians)
Bipeslacertia homines gravius – “Horned Kindred” (Bulky Horned Herbivorous Silurians – TM A Morphology)
Bipeslacertia homines labia – “Early” Silurians (Original Classic Who Silurians)
Bipeslacertia homines venefica – The Silurians from the 30th Anniversary Calendar
“Warrior” Caste (Alternatively “Hunter” Caste)
Bipeslacertia homines anguis – “Junior” Silurians (Silurian Hunters – Supremacy of the Cybermen)
Bipeslacertia homines sapiens – “Late” Silurians (New Who Silurians)
Bipeslacertia homines facultatem – “Alternative Future” Silurians (Rubathon Blue)
Notes
Bipeslacertia vehemenus is considered by the Reptilian Kindred to be an ancestor species and not part of the ‘Reptilian Kindred’ themselves, it is however considered to be in the same genus biologically.
Bipeslacertia volans mortuus was the earliest sapient subspecies to diverge from the Reptilian Kindred and the first to develop a civilisation, but was however rendered extinct by the Wyrm (Alongside the Wyrm mutated Bipeslacertia volans malakhi)
The Reptilian Kindred consider themselves to have five extant ‘Classes/Castes’
Sea Devil
Scholar
Warrior
Winged Kindred
Serad-Dur
And do not consider any greater subgroupings such as the ‘Silurian/Sea Devil two species grouping’ or the ‘Scholar/Warrior single species hypothesis’ as valid, from their perspective, the five main classes are considered the maximal groupings of Reptilian Kindred outside of the sole group that includes all of them, with the term ‘Silurian’ (Alternatively Earth Reptile or Saurian) being used to refer to all five rather than just the Scholar and Warrior castes.
The original Reptilian Kindred diverged from the ancestor of the Helodermatidae family of venomous lizards in the late Cretaceous, with the Bipeslacertia genus itself diverging from the rest of the family with the origin of its bipedal stance in the early Paleocene, just after the KT Extinction Event.
Most accounts of Reptilian Kindred-Dinosaur cohabitation are either later palimpsests (The Reptilian Kindred were a time active power during the Time Wars era, with an individual of Bipeslacertia homines sapiens appearing in the Alliance of Races alongside Rassilon) or instances of Reptilian Kindred bioengineering in the Eocene and Oligocene rather than true Jurassic-Cretaceous era native Reptilian Kindred species.
Their technological civilisation emerged in the Eocene, after the divergence between the “Scholar” and “Warrior” castes of Silurians but before full speciation.
Their full classification is
Domain: Eukaryota
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Reptilia
Order: Squamata
(Potential Clade: Toxicofera)
Suborder: Anguimorpha
Infraorder: Neoanguimorpha
Clade: Monstersauria
Family: Bipeslacertidae
Genus: Bipeslacertia
The emergence order of distinct subspecies was as follows
Cretaceous (145-65 mya)
Split of Bipeslacertidae from Helodermatidae
Paleocene (65-56 mya)
Bipeslacertia splits from the rest of the (extinct) Bipeslacertiadae genera, they are separately characterised by their bipedal stance as opposed to other lizard species.
Spilt of ancestor species from the rest of Bipeslacertia
Bipeslacertia volans splits from the rest of Bipeslacertia
The Zori split from Bipeslacertia volans before the full development of wings
Silurian-Sea Devil Split
“Paleocenes” split from Bipeslacertia volans, “Paleocene” civilisation forms (mostly) above the clouds.
“Paleocene” extinction at the hands of the Wyrm
Reptilian Kindred Civilisations first form.
Extinction of ancestor species
Eocene (56-34 mya)
Serad-Dur split from Silurians
“Early” and “Late” Sea Devils Split
Scholar-Warrior Split, emergence of Scholar Third Eye
Reptilian Kindred Civilisation reaches technological level
Fair Folk Split after Silurians are transported to Avalon
Oligocene (34-23 mya)
“Senior Silurians” split from Scholar caste
Scholar Caste splits into “Early” and “Middle” Silurians
The Inhabitants of the Nameless City split from the “Early” Sea Devils and devolve, eventually disappearing entirely under the shallow seas of north Africa.
“Junior” and “Late” Silurians split
Miocene (23-5.3 mya)
Speciation begins to slow down due to civilisation technological advancement
Reptilian Kindred civilisation enters hibernation due to disaster (Either the newest Moon or a planetoid close passage unrelated to the Moon)
Pliocene (5.3-2.6 mya)
Various apes modified and bred by the Reptilian Kindred begin to develop to fill the ecological niche left by the Reptilian Kindred’s hibernation.
Pleistocene (2.6 mya – 11,700 ya)
Evolution of Homo Sapien Sapiens (humans).
Holocene (11,700 ya – 1712)
Various sporadic reawakenings that are almost always killed off by the newly developed humans.
1500 BCE – Atlantis is destroyed, the Nameless City is forced above the ocean in Africa and the inhabitants are rendered (mostly) extinct
Anthropocene (1712 – 500,000 yf)
2023 AD – The origin era of Rubathon Blue of the Fifty Second Hemisphere Hatchlings in an alternative future
(22nd Century) Reptilian Kindred civilisation reawakens and is forced to cohabitate the planet with the human civilisation.
Relinquecene (500,000 yf – 2 myf)
Reptilian Kindred and humanity mostly abandon Earth for the first significant geological time (Previous abandonments had happened temporarily for much shorter timespans), whilst they would make sporadic returns, from this point onwards the Earth was allowed to evolutionarily develop without its previous intelligent species. (This is when the Haemovores evolve)
Perdicene (2 myf – 10 myf)
Earth was lost, and began being known by different names including Ravalox, Orphan 55 and Tellus. This is the point in which the Reptilian Kindred became no longer tied to Earth as a homeworld beyond as a cultural factoid (Unlike humanity who consistently returned and remained conceptually tied to it until its destruction in 10 myf and the start of the Posthuman era).
This document for the most part, only covers the Extant subspecies of Reptilian Kindred and does not account for the unknown species and subspecies that went extinct prior to the Anthropocene (nor the other extinct Bipeslacertiadae genera) with the exception of Bipeslacertia vehemenus, identified only due to Vastra’s devolution into one during ‘The Evolution Episode’ due to exposure to temporal radiation, Bipeslacertia volans mortuus, an early intelligent extinct species documented by Bernice Summerfield and Peter Summerfield and Bipeslacertia homines facultatem caused by the Fifteenth Doctor’s alterations to the evolutionary history of the Earth.
The Mondasian Parallel Evolution species (The Lizard Kings or Bipeslacertia homines abastrius and Sea Kings or Bipeslacertia diabolus abastrius) which were documented by both the Homo Sapien contra (Mondasians) and the Mondasian Cybermen are considered to be parallel evolutionary counterparts of their Earth twins and aren’t included, it is speculated their evolutionary tree is identical to that of Earth’s.
Despite being considered distinct castes by the Reptilian Kindred, the ‘Early’ Sea Devils (The Sea Devils), the ‘Middle’ Sea Devils (Warriors of the Deep) and the ‘Late’ Sea Devils (Legend of the Sea Devils) are considered to all be local or climate variations of the same subspecies of Sea Devil, Bipeslacertia diabolus sicuturtus.
I basically ignored most direct years given in DWU sources when doing this in favour of trying to work out something that conceptually made the most sense (IMO). Since DWU sources give Silurian origin or even civilisation years as far back as 450 mya, in the Ordovician, Pre-Reptiles, which is not conducive to trying to actually do speculative biology with, and the less said about 'They predate complex life entirely' the better.
I went with Eocene - Miocene because references to the Dinosaurs can always have been post-Cretaceous genetic engineering stuff (They have the tech) but references to "apes" should be theoretically constrained to early human evolution in the Miocene and Pliocene, and the idea that the Silurians existed for the entirety of the Ordovician, Silurian, Devonian, Carboniferous, Permian, Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous, Paleocene, Eocene, Oligocene and Miocene was... kinda ridiculous IMO for this exercise.
Subspecies Visualisation
Bipeslacertia vehemenus – Primitive Ancestor (Primitive Ancestor)
Subspecies (Winged Kindred)
Bipeslacertia volans mortuus – “Paleocenes” (Winged Species – Adolescence of Time)
Bipeslacertia volans malakhi – Wyrm Callers (Wyrm infected Paleocenes)
[No visualisation]
Bipeslacertia volans vivus – Luadans (TM: A Morphology/Reign of the Reptiles)
But the wreck, first seen from the air by a migratory tribe of the flying kindred en route from the tropical swelter of the Oriental Archipelago to the temperate climes of the Austral Spur, had confirmed to the profile of no known vessel from any of the saurian kindred, and Morrahaurm had been the only specialist available. And so, with many misgivings, she had embarked.
(Winged Kindred - The Book of the Enemy)
The globe was held by a creature like a mythical devil incarnate! Its oily green, needle-fanged head hovered just above the luminous sphere, the hellish red eyes darting from side to side in search of the intruder; and where the shoulders should have been were hunched lumps that made the man think of folded wings. The body and shuffling feet were invisible; the claws appeared in silhouette on the surface of the globe that the monstrosity held before it. A little it resembled a gigantic lizard, and the fanged snout, if not the same one, was at least practically identical with the one Sanders had seen in the room of horror. Only now it had lost its super- natural and diabolical aspect, appearing still hideous but only in a reptilian, scaled way. It propelled itself on hissing, leathery wings, and its sinuous body was clad in a blue, silken robe. About its ugly brow was a jewelled diadem; its claws were alight with jewels.
(Luadans - Reign of the Reptiles)
Bipeslacertia volans aurori – Zori (Reign of the Reptiles/Revelry of the Redacted)
He was a Zori, a subspecies of the Reptilian Kindred with vestigial wings on their backs that were useless on Earth, but perfectly adapted to low- gravity environments.
Revelry of the Redacted (The Book of the Snowstorm)
Subspecies (Sea Devil)
Bipeslacertia diabolus sicutsimiae – Late Sea Devils (Comic Sea Devils)
Bipeslacertia diabolus sicuturtus – Early Sea Devils (Normal Sea Devils)
Bipeslacertia diabolus reditius – “Devolved Ones” (Inhabitants of the Nameless City – HP Lovecraft/Faction Paradox)
They were of the reptile kind, with body lines suggesting sometimes the crocodile, sometimes the seal, but more often nothing of which either the naturalist or the palaeontologist ever heard. In size they approximated a small man, and their fore-legs bore delicate and evident feet curiously like human hands and fingers. But strangest of all were their heads, which presented a contour violating all know biological principles. To nothing can such things be well compared - in one flash I thought of comparisons as varied as the cat, the bullfrog, the mythic Satyr, and the human being. Not Jove himself had had so colossal and protuberant a forehead, yet the horns and the noselessness and the alligator-like jaw placed things outside all established categories.
Subspecies (Silurian)
Bipeslacertia homines malus – Serad-dur (Serad-dur)
“Scholar” Caste
Bipeslacertia homines augurius – Fair Folk (Fair Folk- The Shadows of Avalon)
[No Specific Description]
Bipeslacertia homines sapentia – “Senior” Silurians (Chibnall’s original classic style redesign – Cold Blood)
Bipeslacertia homines rostrata – “Middle” Silurians (Warriors of the Deep Silurians)
Bipeslacertia homines gravius – “Horned Kindred” (Bulky Horned Herbivorous Silurians – A Morphology)
Her mass alone would have made Morrahaurm the most conspicuous individual on board, even without the horns and crest majestically adorning her high forehead. Among her own she was known as a beauty, a graceful dancer and no mean athlete: here she was simply a bulky, lumbering target.
(The Book of the Enemy)
Bipeslacertia homines labia – “Early” Silurians (Original Classic Who Silurians)
Bipeslacertia homines venefica – The Silurians from the 30th Anniversary Calendar
“Warrior” Caste (Alternatively “Hunter” Caste)
Bipeslacertia homines anguis – “Junior” Silurians (Silurian Hunters – Supremacy of the Cybermen)
Bipeslacertia homines sapiens – “Late” Silurians (New Who Silurians)
Bipeslacertia homines facultatem – “Alternative Future” Silurians (Rubathon Blue)
Notes on the Meta-history of Earth Reptiles
The natural evolution of most species on Earth was a by-product of the anchoring of the thread, when the Time Lords locked down the rational Universe and rewrote all of history to suit their new rules. In the pre anchoring Universe, humanity was created using Time Lord Looms by the Original Mammoths, a powerful, psychic and magical sapient species that rivalled the Time Lords in the pre-Universe.
Whilst we have pretty much no knowledge of the Silurians from that era, we do know that they were a Time Active power in the Alliance of Races during the Time Wars era, shortly after the anchoring. Implying some kind of time active power, which would explain their appearances in eras of Earth history predating the one in which they originally developed in the Time Lord dominated rational Universe. It is, however, also of note that the vast majority of other more recent (in Universe) accounts depict the Silurians as a mildly advanced mostly stagnant species with very little space travel capabilities most likely indicating at some point between Gallifrey’s ancient past and relative present that the Silurians time active civilisation was erased from history. It is possible they experienced some equivalent of the Ghost Point (The point in which humanity became culturally sterile and stopped meaningfully advancing as a civilisation) though more extreme as humanity was still able to traditionally, if not conceptually, advance whereas the Silurians grew complacent and stagnant for presumably millions of years.
It is of note that New Who consistently depicts the Silurians as both coexisting natively with Dinosaurs and knowing humanities Ape ancestors despite an ~60 million year gap between the two eras. There are numerous potential explanations for this including human evolution occurring over a much longer period in the DWU relative to real life, the effects of the Last Great Time War on the history of Earth, genetic engineering resurrection of Dinosaurs in the Eocene-Miocene and potentially Silurian related dates being actually in months rather than years.
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potentially batshit headcanon, but i think it'd be funny if these two were related somehow.
#i'm inclined to say they're cousins but it'd also be interesting if they were siblings ngl#gustafa hasn't really brought up his own upbringing so far in my playthrough so i'm running hogwild w/ his backstory#i hc that gustafa's parents were classical musicians and pretty strict (very much the types to force what they think is best on their kids)#he felt like the environment was too stifling not only for his music but also his spirit so he left home as soon as he could#he's still proud about his family's history as musicians but definitely doesn't want to raise his kids like his parents raised him#so that's why he's pretty laid back when it comes to raising bea and encourages whatever she loves doing no matter what#wait now that i think about it carter organizes the music festival in mineral town doesn't he?#shit i'm connecting the dots#carter would probably be older than gustafa so i guess he left home as soon as possible too#he just went the route of joining the clergy to get out of town rather than becoming a hippie like gus#imagine going to the next town over to check out their music festival only to be reunited w/ your estranged older bro >>>#you haven't spoken to in like 10+ years#i feel like they'd be okay terms tho they'd definitely bond over how shitty their parents were#okay i'm having fun w/ this headcanon i'm gonna keep it i think#story of seasons#bokujou monogatari#a wonderful life#friends of mineral town#sos awl#sos fomt#sos gustafa#gustafa (awl)#sos carter#carter (fomt)#hc : (sos) awl / fomt#mj.txt
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