#no one's surprised when Félix or Nathalie treat Adrien poorly.

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You didn't list Félix.

However, Nathalie enabling Adrien's abuse is nothing new; it's been, like, part of her actual job for most of the show's runtime. Disappointed but not surprised.

I don't like Bunnix' authoritarianism in making sure that Gabriel's reality rewrite happens, (and I've had issues for years with the way Future Bunnix uplifted Ladybug and put down Chat Noir in "Timetagger", like, did she NEED to make his mental health worse in the past For Greater Good or what?!) but it's kinda difficult to effectively criticize time travel characters for secrecy or when they do or don't interfere... obviously, in addition to telling Maribug "it's your choice", really could have also tried to get her to realise that by making it, she's depriving Adrien of an informed choice. But hey, Bunnix' opinion on Adrien has consistently been noticeably low -_-

Plagg and Kagami's writing at this point kinda feels like they're barely treated as characters anymore? Which is weird because they used to rank pretty high on the character writing quality scale in this show. I don't know what Kagami's personality is even supposed to be anymore, post-feligami. She also betrayed Ladybug's secret identity to Félix, despite having been a rather principled person in the past. I'm not sure if the showrunners know what her personality is anymore, either.

I have mentioned several times that Plagg lying to Adrien actually hurt me more than Marinette lying to him. It's like Adrien has finally lost the one person who was fully on his side and understood him better than anyone else. It was actually the thing that devastated me the most about the way S5 ended. However, it's not like we've been getting a lot of actual characterization to react to about it.

People who are keeping secrets from Adrien:

Nathalie, bunnyx, Marinette, Plagg, and Kagami

People who are getting salted on and hated for their actions:

Marinette