#newsflash: even people who don't think they're fucking know how weird they are
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philtatosbuck · 1 year ago
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"you can't tell me you don't notice the insanity between dean and sam!" literally no one on earth who has watched that stupid little show has ever said those two were a normal bond by any stretch of the imagination. you don't have to be foaming as the mouth about how they're "in love" with each other to acknowledge they aren't normal you bitches just don't understand people can see them solely as brothers and still see them for how insane they are
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onewomancitadel · 2 years ago
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i think one of my favorite knightfall parallels has to do with how both of them want to be really important in the context of the "story" of RWBY (both of them id say are really genre savvy as characters) and yet think so much lesser of themselves than everyone else does. jaunes "theyre the ones that matter" moment in haven where cinder then purposefully injures someone else to deny him his "heroism" vs cinders "without you i am nothing" moment in v8 and jaune after the fact ends up killing penny as a way to deny her "maidenhood"
That's a really interesting point! I do have a deviation of interpretation with the Jaune-Cinder sequence at Haven, but I'll totally give you that you elaborated on it this way to demonstrate your point - the same is true of the situation with Penny, because I think there is ironically something redemptive here.
Cinder rejects Jaune's heedless self-sacrifice. Jaune similarly rejects the notion that Cinder needs the Winter Maiden power, because newsflash: she's already the Fall Maiden. That's basically the implication with her character and why she was successful getting the Fall Maiden power but not the others. (Looking at what you already have is the Fall Maiden's lesson in the fairytale).
In a really warped way, it is actually... oddly good for both of them? They actually in some strange way affirm to them that their erroneous beliefs about themselves are incorrect? It's especially weird that Cinder, in so many words, is actually... telling him his life is special, in a fucked up way which is so delicious I want to throw things. In that same process he awakens his Semblance, aka the beginning of his true purpose (and that his life matters and has some meaning).
Of course what I think is interesting as well about the Haven sequence is that Cinder is projecting and probably made uncomfortable with his sentiment towards himself. This is the 'Without you I am nothing' villain, who has crystalised her pain into a glass shard. Then you've got the whole Rhodes and Huntsman thing, and it starts getting personal quick. The fact I'm made to think about these associations and associate these two emotionally makes me pause.
I completely agree with you about genre-awareness; both of them have assumptions about what sort of story they're in and it both guides their mistakes (villainy/cheating into Beacon and the responsibility Jaune feels for Pyrrha etc.) as well as actually potentially guides their redemption and maybeeee even their romance. The idea that the two ostensibly lesser or unimportant characters who were tied through enmity are in actual fact tied through romance which heals the cosmic wound of the story is of a dramatic irony on such a scale I cannot convey to you how amazing I think it is. They think they know what story they're in and that they're not important and they're working against that without even knowing what direction they're really going.
So the fact that what you've articulated here actually describes both a denial of what they ostensibly want to be (in a wrong way) but is also rooted in something oddly redemptive is what makes me endlessly fascinated with this pairing. Then you've got the fact that there's this kind of dizzy dance where they're effectively skirting around each other narratively, you're almost in the right direction, you're almost there and you don't even know it - Cinder is something (the Fall Maiden, or just who she is, as she is) on her own terms and Jaune really can save someone and actually find the real bleeding wound and be a 'Huntsman' in the way nobody was expecting. I especially like it because the hero is archetypally meant to cut the bad guy down. That's basically what a lot of people believe about Jaune and Cinder anyway. The idea that he's not the archetypal hero but a better person is more interesting to me and strangely tonally appropriate. It's not like it's a passive relationship, either, and I think that is what's redemptive too: the maiden is the dragon both, so you can't just break her out of the tower.
That sense of 'close, but not quite there' with them is so interesting to me because like, what other conclusion am I being led to but romance.
Thanks for your ask anon, that was a great observation. <3
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loreandco · 29 days ago
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listen the fuck up stalkers!!!
i know you're reading this and thinking that you're oh so cool for trying to get me removed from plural spaces for wrong and false allegations or claims.
i know you're reading this because i dont have to tag you to get a reaction or anything. you've been stalking my tumblr that, mind you, i don't even really use because unlike some (/nbr) i don't wish to be dependable on social media. but i will do this and say this one thing.
that you're wrong.
i have proof that someone you may or may not have been contacting and talking to is a fucking liar, an attention seeking backstabber who is not only a problematic ADULT but an ADULT that doesn't understand when to quit or what the difference between shit is.
supposedly me being comship means im a fucking pedophile, which could not be farther from the truth. in fact its so wrong im going to explain to you what comship actually is!! because none of you read my initial post! comship stands for 'complicated ship' which in itself, is complicated. complications may be having DIFFERENT views about DIFFERENT things under a shipping label; such as pro or neuship. comship ALSO means being interested in these complications in a FICTIONAL, SAFE, AND NONHARMFUL WAY. you people don't seem to understand that FICTION DOES NOT EFFECT REALITY UNLESS CHALLENGED and you probably are thinking about sources or media like creepypasta that have indeed effected people enough before.
while yes sources or media like creepypasta have INFLUENCED and PERSUADED people to do things, this does not make the media responsible for YOUR thoughts or YOUR actions. everyone has free will, period. if you seriously are petty enough to say 'oh creepypasta is why my fictive of XYZ is so bad' for example, then unfortunately that's not my problem and is in fact an issue that you have to work on as a system. you can teach alters and fictives to be better and you choosing not to! is the problem! because you're basically enabling and 'gentle parenting' them enough to the point they think its ok. and newsflash, its not! please educate yourself and teach your alters to maybe i dont know, understand they're not always their source??
also want to give a shoutout to this person ive already referenced aka pandora aka nachokitten17 aka user 1239703551261933621 on discord if you'd like to preban them btw that you are the most insufferable person i've met in the last year or so. you literally assumably got me under some serious stupid and wrong allegations because i 'support your abuser' when we had our lloyd introject TELL YOU TO BACK OFF for making us uncomfortable. you clinged to me. you were OBSESSIVE and WEIRD and fucking need to know it. i frankly don't mind it if people say me making this callout part of this message is wrong because if people find this, it actually proves people have been stalking me and makes them the problem and not me. get a life, please. and to pandora: the fact you tried to befriend me while also lying about this is fucking wild.
below is proof that pandora is delusional about ships and their 'condoning' and how they believe freedom of fiction = pedo which is a wild ass claim lmao
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"people only ship dark things because they fantasize it" could not be further from the truth. pandora is basically denouncing peoples trauma response to things like assault and sexual abuse. this literally just paints a bigger picture as to how and why this person is problematic. and this is a fucking 20 year old btw! crazy right?
this is the same person who you let throw around claims about me being a horrible person for no actual real evidence other than bullshit from years ago. like really? me having a TCOAAL avatar and banner to my discord suddenly means im a pervert? get the fuck over yourself kid lmao. im allowed to like the media and frankly liking a media that has a base topic of questionable morals doesn't mean im the same way. it just means i enjoy the content. the same can be said about you pandora when you like mouthwashing and suddenly! oh no! you're a horrible person for liking it because of what jimmy did to anya! you fucking hypocrite. also back on the TCOAAL thing i relate to andrew graves so fucking much because my ex irl best friend was a lot like ashley in game, she was manipulative and used me as a gain and a passage to get out o trouble. so thanks! for basically saying my trauma response is wrong and invalidating it! fuck you.
and to those who actually read this in full and understand now that im not a bad person and in fact just think people should live their lives and not have to have fiction and media's and sources ONLINE by the way make up their personality or exhibit the same behaviour, good on you because you're a good person unlike pandora.
now if you've actually read this in full i commend you for taking the time because i understand its a LOT to read through but i figured i'd give a one last middle finger to those who have been on my tail trying to get me in trouble. im not even a bad person or any of these claims; i just wholeheartedly don't care because fiction does not effect reality unless challenged.
thank you, and if people want more screenshots.. oh i have more :)
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donotalwaysbebatman · 2 years ago
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Nightwing #105
This whole issue is really gimmick and there isn't a point to it. I know this idiot thought he was really smart for coming up with a concept that was really weird! And no one does that! Yeah, there's a reason no one does this except in porn. What, were you watching porn and you were like, whoo, someone should do a comic of this. Honestly, a porn comic might've been better, because this one had, again, no point.
Here's the thing, Tom. You are a terrible writer and I only read Nightwing to look at him drawn by a very talented artist. You literally made an issue where it was impossible for me to stare at his ass. And if you had a reason for it, if you were using it as a storytelling element, sure, okay, I like experimental stories. This wasn't that. This was just you thinking you were a supergenius for no reason.
Also. The apartment window thing? This is the most parodied thing in all of not only Batfandom, but all of superhero satire. You can't just have people jump out their own window in costume. Have some fucking opsec. At least have a secret elevator up to the roof or something, god fucking damn.
Then he gets a call from his sister. And I'm like Cass! (Or maybe Steph, because Babs is obv already sleeping over.) But it was not Cass. It was the character I thought had been written out of the story and never needs to be mentioned again. Who literally never needed to exist in the first place and legitimately could be replaced with like three sticky notes with one sentence each on them. Because this asshole hates Cass, and doesn't want to acknowledge her existence. For fuck's sake, Dick, at least ask which sister.
Okay, and then he fucking Mansplains trains to Babs??? Like, oh, Barbara, did you know that, in fact, trains move? And she's like, oh, teehee, I didn't, I can't jump, I'm not a trained vigilante like you Nightwing, I need you to teach me how to do basic tricks!!! I almost died teehee teehee! No. Babs is so much better at timing and trajectories than Dick is. She can literally calculate them in her head while she's moving. She doesn't miss. Also what did it add for her to miss? Other than another chance for Tom to show off how much better he thinks men are than women? I swear to fuck this is the most sexist writer at DC.
Unrelated, why the fuck are all the train seats the same weird hot pink color? Usually they're several different colors or uniform gray. What choices is the colorist making here.
Then we have even more sexism. Hurhur a cheating joke! How funny! Literally what is the point of including that? It's funny that Babs doesn't trust Dick or something? Like what exactly is even supposed to be the underlying humor there, that they don't have a healthy relationship and he constantly makes her feel self-conscious and inadequate? That he threatens her in order to coerce her into doing things he wants? Or else that she's asserting that she has control over his body and is trying to curtail his autonomy? Or is it just supposed to be relatable because like. Of course women constantly test their men! That's just what the female species is like! Only misogynists think like that. No, Tom. Skill issue.
Then this thing about reverse engineering vaccines out of someone's bloodstream because they injected themselves. Which I know is this really common trope but it's so stupid and not at all how vaccines work. What's going to be in someone's blood is antibodies. Vaccines aren't made of antibodies. They're made to mimic the original disease in shape. So it's like this: did they inject her with the vaccine, in which case why the fuck don't they remember she has short hair, or did she just get her hands on it, in which case why didn't she just fucking carry it like a reasonable person.
Anyway then it's like 'oh let's switch bodies' and the lady is like. I don't get it. Where will we get a body double who is also athletic and also has red hair. Well, newsflash, lady, 50% of women in DC have red hair. And 98% of them are in the top 2% of athletes worldwide. So. But literally Babs is sitting directly next to her and how stupid does Tom think women are that she wouldn't get that immediately? Or, worse, how stupid does he think the reader is that they need that explained? (I mean, I guess his fans might need that explained.) I hope it's just included because he thinks his fans want to laugh at how stupid women are that they need obvious things explained, because that's honestly less depressing.
So here's my question, why would changing on a giant empty train be awkward? They can go to a different car if they want to. And there are still bathrooms, even if they don't. Or they can just move behind the seats further away. Plus, they're both women, so it's not really awkward for them to change in front of each other; Dick doesn't need to be changing and can just turn around or close his eyes. (The only funny use of the gimmick possible, which they just skipped.) And Dick has already seen Babs naked lots, so why would either of them care? They're all capes. They change en masse all the time. And also there was a whole third outfit that appeared out of fucking nowhere, so they didn't even have to be naked at the same time or do a naked handoff. (Which wouldn't really be naked, because underwear.)
And, really, where did that uniform come from? Did she strip the conductor naked when she threw them off the train? Or does Tom think that people just keep spare clothes on the train like they live there? They change at home like everyone else does for their job. They're not storing spare uniforms in the train closet and, what, sharing them with each other? That's even more annoying than Babs trying to relationship test him again for no fucking reason, what would that even mean? Like, oh, you think the villain outfit is hot, therefore you're basically cheating on me. What fucking logic.
This story is really boring and has no point and wouldn't have been good anyway, but the gimmick is super annoying all the way through, and in parts just makes it hard to read. Also it includes way more mirrors than would actually come up in telling this story in a normal way, just so the artist was allowed to actually draw Nightwing sometimes. This is just a failed attempt at cool artistic choices.
Here's the other question: why would Dick try to go rescue Babs? She can take care of herself. She can take care of their victims, too. His priority should be getting the vaccine to the people who need it (and, also, how can they pay her if the point is they don't have money to pay for the vaccine?) and then sending her sister after her, later, after they do the rescue. Without her. Because why the fuck are they taking her near where the kidnappers who want to kill her are??? Why didn't they just let her get captured and put a tracker on her then? Why bother with deception if not to buy time to get her out of there? Just because Dick needs to prove he's a man, who women of course always need to rescue them?
Or else he could just let her go off and sell her vaccine or whatever she's doing. Instead of having the most fail emotional dialogue ever written. Completely scrubbed of any personality or purpose. Giving no catharsis to either character or the audience. And also I don't care about her or what she's doing, but her motivations would've been a lot more interesting than the conversation they actually had.
Meanwhile, Babs frees herself, of course she does, that's only reasonable, and then Dick is surprised? Why, is he as much of a misogynist as you, Tom? These kidnappers are clearly super incompetent, you really think a trained vigilante with the element of surprise is not going to get the upper hand? She needs you to rescue her because she has an F on her driver's license? And then what was with the bizarre sex banter. That was unnecessary, especially since Dick apparently doesn't even like sex, according to the line he said.
Now the villain - who the editor explained the situation in full to us, on the assumption no one remembers or gives a fuck, which, good on her - is presented as if he's obviously a bad dude because he's a rich guy. Like those are the markers of why you're supposed to distrust him. Only the thing is Dick is also a rich guy. He grew up rich, and now he's a multibillionaire. And that is actually very important to his story, because, if anyone's paying attention, the entire Batman story is about how a) money or power alone is not enough to fix things without enough popular support, and b) even if everyone around you is terrible you can choose to be good, because people are not predestined based on their fucking genetics or whatever. So just relying on stereotypes is so fucking disrespectful to that entire tradition, a tradition where Dick picks up those lessons from his father and applies them to his own life.
There's also an issue where Tom is confusing sociopaths and sadists. Sociopaths are low empathy people who are often willing to hurt people incidentally to achieve their goals, although it is important to note that many people regardless of empathy are willing to dick people over. They hurt animals as children out of curiosity without regard for the harm, not because they seek the harm specifically; they want to perform dissections and learn biology. Sadists, on the other hand, are extremely high empathy, and have an easy time making friends and getting to know people intimately, and don't have the problem of feeling lonely or misunderstood. They manipulate the people around them intuitively, often without even knowing they're doing it, and slowly become abusive. If they're that type, of course; both sadists and sociopaths are almost always very normative people, just like everyone else, and don't do anything notably out of the ordinary. This is such a common error in fiction and it's boring and annoying. Do better. It just makes him the stupidest villain in all of DC, and that's compared to stuff like Packrat and Killer Moth.
"It was 25 minutes." What does that even mean, Dick? How long do you think it takes to legitimately fire someone once you watch the news? Especially if they weren't legally hired in the first place? And you already know they're lying and not being legitimate, so what are you trying to prove? That they're lying? To whom? This literally wouldn't mean they were lying, and also everyone knows they're lying so what exactly is the point. And then he takes the drugged water!
Don't drink that, Dick! Why would you take supervillain water from a supervillain? Why would you take any food or drink you didn't have to, ever, but especially in costume while dealing with ethically sketchy people you know are totally comfortable with murder? He's definitely got tiny nanites in him that are tracking him or trying to rewrite his brain or something now. Or they put LSD in there so they can fuck with him later.
What's with the defense that she's a thief, too - does Tom think if someone's a thief, you're allowed to kidnap them? Thieves have rights and are still protected, so unless it was a citizen's arrest, in which case they would have to say that and wouldn't be allowed to deal with her personally (and would yell that as a defense anyway, not just be like, it's okay she steals stuff)... why would anyone think that was a defense to taking hostages. What does that mean. Shouldn't that tell Dick that they're supervillains and not just asshole CEOs.
Hoho, Dick made a funny, he almost said a bad word! But he didn't! Because he's a pure specimen of ideal manhood, right. First of all, Mr. Wing is a super cute nickname, second, how is Jason Little Wing if Wing is not their shared surname, and third, at least pick a funny insult if you're going to make that joke. Assclown, maybe? That has genre implications. Or canoe, maybe, because it has clear implications but it's also a funny word, even without the Oh No Words in it. Or just call him Mr. Fucker! We'd get it even censored!
Also this is the stupidest ending. Oh look, they resolved stuff, let us inform you of the resolution. I didn't even care while it was happening, Tom, you don't need to spell out all the things that were implied by the fact that the story ended. Why is it interesting they left? Or took a motorcycle? Why is Babs waiting? Doesn't she have better things to do? I did. But I read this comic anyway.
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ithinkimasmartass · 2 years ago
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Lol imagine finding this shit in your feed.
Ok where to start? Let's start with high knowledge about their alters and great communication "... Things that can only be acquired with years and years of therapy..." Ok, yes; there is typically an amnesia barrier between at least two of the alters in a system. That doesn't mean that the more "powerful" alters don't have access to these skills, regardless of therapy. For instance a Gatekeeper or Trauma Holder is going to have a bit more influence over the middles or littles. (Please, correct me if I'm wrong. That's just how it works in our system) Some systems have a, pardon my redundancy, system in place to supply certain memories to those fronting to assist in masking or performing basic tasks, like the body's job. Our system personally has an alt who's only job is keeping track of memories and distributing them if needed.
Next up; high alter count. Trauma is subjective. When a child forms alters it is because that immature, young, inexperienced brain is trying to cope with traumatic incidents that very easily could still be happening. Having 10-15 alters is normal, but that doesn't mean having an absurdly high amount means they're faking. It means they were subjected to a hell of a lot of trauma in their life.
Next, lack of "evidence". Tell me, cup person of great knowledge/s /j /r, do you live with them? Are you in their house? Do you live in their neighborhood? So how do you know what goes on offline? Come on now, you can't be that dumb.
All alts sharing the "same opinions". Have you asked every single alter their opinions on things? I mean shit with 240 alters that must've taken a really long ti- oh wait, you didn't. Did you ever think perhaps the few you've talked to have separate opinions; but share the same ones concerning you? Shocking I know.
"What happened to site 17 blah blah blah" once again, have you been by their side every second of the day since birth? Then who the fuck are you to question what exactly happened to them? Newsflash dumbass; there'd only be a select few who could even answer that question.
"Is it weird that the SCP fandom has so many systems when only 2% of the world has it?" Oh boy, math time. So there's about 7.8 billion people in the world. 2% is 156 million. Holy shit, that's a lot of fuckin people ya think? The SCP fandom has existed for at least a decade if I'm not mistaken. I don't know about you but I'm delighted a single fandom could provide so much comfort to people that they'd get alts of the characters. I'm also so glad that the SCP fandom is so accepting of such things as LGBTQ and mentally ill people; more people should take notes.
"Since DID forms in childhood [where could the SCP fictives have came from]?" Well, I'm certainly very glad you didn't ask/s /j /r The disorder itself cannot form after age 9, however, if it's formed before then alters can appear at any point in the system's lifetime. The brain learned at an early age that in order to cope it has to split; and split it will do. I mean shit we just got a new factive last week from a comfort cosplayer on tiktok.
I don't care about your drama with whoever e-zilla is. I'm here to tell you that fake claiming is wrong. Fake claiming can be so much more detrimental to the overall health and healing of the system because you're essentially invalidating everything that brain has worked so hard to process. Do better.
- #####, the first gatekeeper and main protector
Posting here too so everyone who came from the Heinous post (Thepipebombficauthor) see
One of the reasons why you can see that Site 17 is faking DID is because they has high knowledge about their alters and great communication about them, things that can only be acquired with years and years of therapy and that doesn’t match their age, not to mention that more than 200 alters is a number so high that it is abnormal, the normal is 10 alters, not counting the exaggeration of symptoms and the lack of evidence that they really has DID.
Another thing, from over 240 alters with different interests and personalities AT LEAST ONE don’t want to have a shared account or disagree with the other alters opinions, strange isn’t it? Everyone have the same points of views
Also, what exacly happenned to site 17 that made they develop DID? To develop DID a trauma had to occur on childhood, no other age only childhood.
Is weird that the SCP fandom has so many people with DID when less than 2% of the US population have DID.
Also, since DID can only develop at childhood, how did you got an Dr.Iceberg and Dr.Kondraki alter? The SCP fandom is not for kids and reading such long texts is tiring for a 7 years old
Also, @e-zillia, I have never forced or manipulated you to have the same opinion as me as you said, everything you said was your own will and opinions, I have never influenced you to have another opinion or agree with me, so stop talking shit and be responsible for whatever you said , good or bad
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