#nelear/rafalear debate

[meebochii]

what if it was veyle instead of alear in those ships??? then what would you do??

That would literally change nothing?

They aren't related to Veyle either.

[meebochii]

good thing you didnt go for nel*ar because thats inc*st

I'm assuming you mean Nel/Alear here? No idea why you're censoring it but okay.

How is it incest if Nel and Alear are not related? OG Sombron and Sombron Alter are different people? They even mention that in the game.

Also, it's strange that you aren't mentioning Rafalear here despite the post you're talking about saying how I prefer them over Nelear. By your logic they'd be an incest ship as well, no?

[meebochii]

Nelera/rafaelar debate ask. I have replayed the game with the jpn dub, and Nel says that her Sombron is the descendant of a dragon born in Alt Elyos who is also the ancestor of Lumera. So that means he doesnt have the same ancestors as our Sombron. Which means that even if the twins were related to Alear, they would still not be siblings because there would still be a lot of different genes between the 2 Sombron.

Good to know!

Thank you for the info, anon c:

[meebochii]

hey some fans look at the nel/veyle supports and take it as the game acknowledging they are siblings. you know ? the one where she says "my Sombron is not your papa".

As you pointed it out yourself though: Nel makes it clear that they are not related so I'm not sure how one can reach the conclusion that they are by looking at this support.

[meebochii]

I wonder how people can see those battle convos and still call Nelear&Rafalear incest 😶 They do not consider OG Sombron their father at all (which is obvious bcuz he isn't).

As we would say in Germany: "Einbildung ist auch eine Bildung."

People will always find a reason to bash the things they don't like. Whether or not those reasons make sense or are justified doesn't seem to matter to them.

[meebochii]

there is literaly so many way to "solve the incestuous problem", like ship the twins with Alt!Alear or headcanon them a new story. They are fictional, it's not like it's gonna kill someone and it clearly show that the op doesn't like the idea of incest at all ! so why the complain ?

Beats me. I think people just love nitpicking.

[meebochii]

what irks me the most about this is that you were being so nice and even told them in kind that if they didn't agree it be better to leave because you'll make them uncomfortable with your future posts and yet they were still trying to be a dick and acting like you were supporting incest! you're a good person!

Well, first of all: Thank you for being mad in my place :) I do appreciate it but please don't burn yourself out, especially not over something like that.

And second... Well, I actually feel like they might have just been trying to trash Nelear? Because their first ask only pointed out Nelear despite the post they were refering to mentioning that I ship Rafalear. Wouldn't someone who had actually cared about the supposed incest pointed out the elephant in the room first? Not to mention that it took them 3 asks in total to even mention Rafalear at all.

[meebochii]

I wonder how is it logical to say it's incest of their support were not even romantic in the first place, this would also mean you view it as Brotp. For example, Alear/Veyle are my brotp (or rather sisotp)

Well, I can't speak for Nel's but Rafal's can be read as romantic.

I do agree though that just because I say I ship them doesn't necessarily mean I ship them romantically. It could have been a brotp (which, to be fair, isn't the case but that's not the point here).

[meebochii]

according to them you justify incest by... shipping a non-incest ship...?

Yeah, pretty much.

[meebochii]

Fictional character's relationship depends entirely on interpretation. If one believe the game's watsnonian explanation then it means they don't consider the twins and Alear to be siblings, if they don't then it means they beleive they are siblings and therfore see it as incest. However, we are talking about fictional characters so why caring about it ? If the side that believe it's not incest is mistaken there will be no consequences, however if the side that believes it's incest try to force their view, there is going to be consequences.

Amen!

[meebochii]

Nel is explicitely romantic while Rafal is rather debatable.

I can't say anything about Nel's but Rafal's isn't actually debatable? He's pretty clear about it; or at least that's how I read/understood it.

[meebochii]

I knew that the whole twins things was gonna spark up into controversy... but one really need to be crazy to thing that bying the game's explanation means justifying incest. It means you belive it's NOT incest. God

Amen to this!

[meebochii]

that anon's really trying hard to prove that it's incest, huh

Yeah, I dunno what's up with that.

Why does it matter whether or not I consider them incest or not?

If they don't like my opinion they can just block me? Or just... not interact with me if blocking is too much trouble?

[meebochii]

also what i said about nelear applies to rafalear

Then you probably don't want to stay around here because I have a lot of posts in the draft fangirling over that exact ship.

And since you consider it incest, it'll probably make you uncomfortable.

[meebochii]

Sombron is still Sombron regardless of universe. Nelear is not incest with Xenologue Alear bc different parents but is with main timeline Alear bc same father(Sombron).

Also the only romantic DLC S Support is Gregory. Not all love is romantic :/

I don't want to fight about something like that because I can already tell it's not going to go anywhere so let's just agree to disagree; to me it's not incest, to you it is.

I can't say much about the S Supports for the DLC characters because I've only seen one but that was clearly romantic and it wasn't Gregory's.

I do agree that love doesn't need to be romantic though.

[meebochii]

the fe fandom loves to ignore the canon at some point. if 2 sombron are canon they don't have the same dad. period. by that logic if you have greglear it makes Griss the father of Gregory's kid

Yeah, I've noticed.