#natividadmoon

[atopvisenyashill]

When I draw I have Elizabeth Moos' face as a reference a bit, unfortunately you find her on Rubivia at 30 something, here she was 26. Could you use an app to change the face?

ooo you know elizabeth moss is a good fancast, she’s got a more square face, not so porcelain doll looking. i think she’s a little short but that’s not a problem with graphics lol

[natividadmoon]

For economic reasons I opened a Kofi, I would appreciate it if you could join from a dollar

I'm new to this, sorry

[alicentsgf]

tags from @natividadmoon !!

Exactly!! Now they've set it up so it up so it seems like shes rejecting her house, rather than the horrors of the war

It feels so small in the grand scheme of things now. But im still so annoyed about them making House Hightower’s colour green.

[alicentcole]

thank you for the tag @fandom-trash-goblin 🩷

rules: answer + tag nine people you want to get to know better and/or catch up with!

favourite colour: pink. in any shade. even my tumblr is pink.

last song i listened to: holy war by hans zimmer.

last film i watched: clueless as part of my yearly rewatch.

currently reading: does fanfiction count? 😭

currently craving: BRIGADEIRO!!!!!!!! it’s a brazilian sweet made from cooking condensed milk, cocoa powder and a touch of butter.

currently watching: i prefer films as i usually start shows and leave them halfway through lol so last watched: gyeongseong creature.

coffee or tea: TEA!!!!! i stay away from coffee as a principle.

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Rules: answer + tag nine people you want to get to know better and/or catch up with!

Favourite colour: witchy green(Idk what its actual name is, the green that's associated with the villains mainly) and purple(any shade)

Last song I listened to: Dinner and Diatribes by Hozier

Last film I watched: All of us strangers (I cried for an hour after watching this movie, it's definitely one of my favourites)

Currently reading: The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt(I'm loving the book so far)

Currently craving: Cranberry juice(The local store I usually buy cranberry juice from, ran out of it 😭)

Currently watching: Series 10 of doctor who

Coffee or tea: I'm down from anything, but just black. I take black tea mostly with a lot of spices but when I don't get enough sleep, I rely on black coffee.

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[atopvisenyashill]

@natividadmoon GNC = gender non conforming

which, like, Arianne is certainly very feminine and not particularly gnc but i sometimes group her in there bc there’s this conflation of ambition + pride with masculinity in the text, in a pretty clear parallel to the ways in which our own cultures conflate female ambition with acting “improper” and “like a man.” except sometimes it feels like in real life, when talking about female characters who have ambition, some readers will ascribe “being masculine” and acting “improper” with ambitious women.

kind of similar to people making the argument that d&d made yara a lesbian because they are making her “like a man” because “masculine girls are better bc they hate femininity” and liking women is a male thing - but MEN DO NOT HAVE A MONOPOLY ON LIKING WOMEN that’s like, queer theory 101! they made her a lesbian not bc they have such respect for butch lesbians (as IF) but because all asha/yara was in their eyes was a Sexy Pirate Captain and they think women kissing women is hot. that’s the reason, they just fundamentally misunderstand her character because They Are Not Serious People.

So people will hate every single character that a) is actually GNC, like arya and asha or b) are forced to be GNC bc of other ways they don’t conform to westerosi patriarchal standards, like brienne and c) are considered “masculine” by westeros due to misogyny (and racism in Arianne’s case; she would never be considered a proper woman by most of the seven kingdoms already because she’s dornish), and ascribe this like, Male Privilege Lite to them even while internalizing the sexism those characters face in universe.

and it’s sort of like…alright but you (general you, not you you) are also missing the point here, because even tho grrm could certainly be doing it better, he’s making just as much commentary on sex and sexuality as he is war, power, gender, class, etc. like, if you really think sex won’t be involved in brienne’s story line because she’s “above” that or bc you think she’s somehow treated better by society for being “masculine” that’s just like, repackaged sexism, women aren’t above or below sex because sex is value neutral!! it’s how sex is used that gives it any sort of meaning! the regents get alllllllll in their feelings about baela fooling around with boys her own age, and then a lot of fans react the exact same way by saying that a 16 year old wanting to have sex is grrm “sexualizing” or “ruining” her and beyond being a complete misunderstanding of The Themes (he’s clearly poking at prudish religious beliefs and societal preoccupation with Women Feeling Horny, and this is something he does in the main series too!) it’s also just stupid to the nth degree bc no, a 16 year old doing age appropriate sex stuff with age appropriate people is not sexualizing them. there are so many other instances where he does weird writing choices with young girls, writing a female character who is 16 and wants to fight, is shouty, doesn’t like being told what to do, and starts kissing random boys after her fiancé fucks someone else is one of the most normal choices grrm has ever made!!

sex and ambition and fighting and kissing girls are not “male” things, the point of these gnc or “improper” characters is to challenge the notion that anything at all is a male or female thing!

sometimes people will be like “there’s nothing wrong with liking feminine characters” except they absolutely despise Asha, Brienne, and Arianne & every Sand Snake and it’s like no…i actually don’t think your problem is that you like feminine characters i think your problem is that you dislike GNC women, actually

[atopvisenyashill]

@natividadmoon people were discoursing about Rhaenyra, Helaena, and Alicent and their bodies as usual. Someone tried to handle this by making a thread of how Rhaenyra is depicted in official art, and how she’s actually beautiful and not ugly, because people were calling her ugly. Which is certainly a way to handle that. then this person quote tweeted saying that the art that George makes official, is all really wild, and sometimes kind of ugly akskkd but it’s also really inconsistent when it comes to depicting Rhaenyra. And in general Rhaenyra is very inconsistently depicted from the books to all of the official art-

i mean just look at some of the art he’s made official lmao-

i don’t want to drag anyone’s art too bad, i mean i even really like the art in dunk & egg but like, why is tanselle so small lmao. and he’s been known to just like,,,,, okay whatever even if it’s weird targaryen barbie face or dany being real busty with a sephora glam face-

i think sometimes he’s just incredibly unserious about how the series is depicted bc he doesn’t care about the idea of Official Portraits, he wants you to get imaginative. but it also means people will be like “well in official art” and it’s like. the art, the text, the shows, it is Nawt consistent and what’s more george does NOOOT care sjsjd

they’re beating george’s ass on twitter lmao

[atopvisenyashill]

@natividadmoon it is admittedly not NEARLY as weird as “daenaera the hot six year old” (nothing is as weird as daenaera the hot six year old) but there’s a specific remark on jaehaera being beautiful and i thought it was weird enough/notable enough to include her. its a bit more flattering - after she dies she’s said to be “brave and beautiful” but. i still don’t like that we remember this murdered baby as “beautiful” even if brave is attached to it.

do u remember the characters who were complimented the most by their beauty in the books?

off the top of my head (and keeping in mind i’m still on asos and haven’t reread feastdance at least since the show ended so like 3-4 years) characters who get complimented most often for beauty are -

cersei

sansa

dany

margaery

jaime (not joking, he doesn’t get called handsome, he gets called beautiful. think more brad pitt and less george clooney)

joffrey (similar to jaime, altho tbf most of the comments on his beauty come from sansa)

loras

characters who are less complimented mostly due to them not being in every book but still notable beauties include-

arianne

catelyn & lysa - i’m like 80% sure people comment on lysa being beautiful when she’s younger & less so now, but don’t quote me there. i know people comment on cat being hot af when she’s younger, and multiple people remark on her hair so she clearly still Has It, she’s just not in a position where men are throwing themselves at her feet in the series given, ya kno, the war

melisandre

roslin frey

margaery’s lady’s court - her girls, taena, and alerie are all described at some point or another as being beautiful

taena of myr - wanted to mention her specifically, people tend to think of her as striking

val the wildling

ygritte the wildling - notable that this is incredibly conditional bc jon only starts referring to her as beautiful after they start sleeping together BUT the wildlings consider her beautiful bc of her hair

rohanne webber

characters noted to be beautiful by people who are clearly fishing for a compliment to pay her (aka, She Is Beautiful To Me, I Understand Her)-

jeyne westerling - i want to add her bc you have cat, robb, and jaime all acknowledge she’s “pretty enough” but are won over by her after talking to her, which probably speaks more to how she carries herself than her actual looks. but as a westerling stan, it’s notable To Me haha

brienne - i need to include this bc the “she could almost be a lady she could almost be a knight” is one of my favorite lines in the series, it makes me crazy and i think any post about beauty that doesn’t include brienne isn’t complete. that brienne gets the “brienne the beauty” moniker bc she’s ugly even as jaime keeps thinking about how she’s beautiful in some way or another is, imo, notable in how george sees & defines beauty (very much in the eye of the beholder, and that love can make you search for beauty in someone who is objectively not beautiful according to The Societal Standards)

arya - ned compares her to lyanna (and obviously ned isn’t gonna tell his daughter “you’re an uggo my sister was hot as fuck tho”) & gendry & edric both get a lil flustered over her

ellaria sand - noted that she’s not strictly beautiful but “something draws the eye” which seems like jeyne it’s about how she carries herself than her actual looks

jeyne poole - i mean. lots of comments about how she’s pretty ish and they’re clearly meant cruelly, almost as a way of tormenting her (no fancy last name, no wolf’s blood, not even pretty enough to get someone to rescue her)

pre-asoiaf mentioned in the main series for their beauty include-

lyanna stark

ashara dayne

missy blackwood

barba bracken

rhaegar targaryen

and pre-asoiaf characters noted to be beautiful in twoiaf or f&b-

rhaenys targaryen (the conqueror)

nymeria of ny sar

rhaena the lesbian

alyssa velaryon

jocelyn baratheon

viserra targaryen

rhaenys velaryon

rhaenyra targaryen - notable that she’s considered beautiful as a child but less so as an adult (bc westeros is full of fucking weirdos)

helaena targaryen - described as being more beautiful than alicent and that’s really it

daenaera velaryon - ditto on westeros being full of weirdos lol

jaehaera targaryen - again. she is like 12 when she dies but half the realm is commenting on this beautiful child. i hate these people so much.

baela targaryen

lady sam hightower

something that’s notable is that george makes a continued distinction between “pretty” and beautiful - alysanne targaryen is considered pretty but not beautiful, for example. so there’s people like jeyne westerling who are “pretty enough” as in, not ugly, not plain, but not, as jaime puts it “beautiful enough to lose a kingdom over” as in they are drop dead, model, helen of troy type gorgeous.

that’s also why i wanted to include the “fishing for compliments” type girls bc these women are very aware that they’re not pretty enough and often wind up carrying themselves differently as a response to this - if they can’t be gorgeous they’ll be so disarming, so striking, that people will spin back around to beautiful. ygritte is the biggest example of this imo because how jon perceives her beauty is very tied to how his relationship with her develops - he purposefully conflates her beauty with her violence bc he wants to find her violence beautiful bc that would make his life infinitely easier, and after she dies he’s very clear headed that she isn’t that pretty but she is TO HIM, she is beautiful in his memory because of his feelings for her. it makes him very wary of melisandre & val as a result - because he conflates beauty and violence in ygritte, it makes him wary of other harsh & beautiful women. or take lyanna, who is remembered often as being beautiful yet in ned’s memory, this beauty is part of what dooms her and he is outwardly hostile whenever people mention her beauty - to ned, that beauty brought only horror so he doesn’t dwell on it.

there’s lots of commentary here on what “beautiful” actually means from person to person, so while i would say the first group are more objectively beautiful, it’s also important to think about context - who is thinking they’re beautiful, why they’re thinking this, and what their relationship is.

[atopvisenyashill]

@nobodysuspectsthebutterfly oo thanks i’ll check them out!

@natividadmoon me 🤝🏽 your dad

absolutely believing we’d be great at podcasting even tho it’s super hard to get into. lmaoooo. do you speak portuguese too? if she speaks in spanish it’ll probably be good practice bc i can read it alright and i can frankenstein together some sentences if i have time to write them out but everytime i hang with my fam it’s just me smiling blankly while they talk in rapid fire spanish. i do not understand portuguese even a little tho aksjdjd

anyone got asoiaf podcast recs?? does such a thing - good asoiaf podcasts - even exist??

[atopvisenyashill]

@natividadmoon house farman! second row is my “such a minor house they barely qualify as a house but a single character in it is my blorbo so i stan them now” and i adore elissa farman. i like to believe balerion dropped aerea off with elissa and aerea got to live her last few months watching the sun disappear on the horizon of the sunset sea with her other mama.

thought of a name i liked better so

queensoficeandfire -> atopvisenyashill

in honor of my favorite marxist mommies and their baby murder pit sonny boy. made a blog header to go with it