#my response was getting long and frankly i didn't want to derail or dtract any further from the facts you were spitting but
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fuckmeyer Ā· 1 year ago
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Wiggins!) the bizarre thing about the vampire men in the cullen family all seem to be at least subconsciously what Smeyer wants Bella to have but canā€™t seem to get over her initial vision of what she saw in her drafts or whatever. Itā€™s odd that every single one of the Cullen men are like strongly devoted (but mostly devoid of personality because itā€™s so Bella centric) but when you compare them to Edward they seem interesting in some ways. Like Narratively weā€™re supposed to have this threat that Edward is constantly holding back from killer her but I donā€™t feel like we see that. Conversely, Jasper is constantly the one who is suffering about human smells and is the more vampire-like. But heā€™s also a glorified lap dog. So itā€™s like ā€˜oh heā€™s a monster but heā€™ll never hurt meā€ (things Alice has said out loud. Man even psychics slip up. I swear her powers werenā€™t so accurate until Smeyer needed an excuse for plot reasons)
Emmett feels like when some women say they like waifish guys because they donā€™t want to seem like theyā€™re vapid for liking ā€œbig dudes with musclesā€ so of course you pair Emmett with the ā€œshallow blondeā€
Carlisle, I swear only exists so Edward has someone to model but I would also argue that heā€™s proto-Edward before whatever reworking she had to do when writing Twilight for a YA audience and brought him back as a different character.
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hello again bestie Wiglet! (note to self: learn Photoshop so i can shop Jacob's bad wig onto a pic of Piglet)
this is such an interesting take! thanks for sharing. i totally see what you're saying. in all the Cullen men we see both a blend of softness & devotion *and*, interestingly enough, a patchwork of patriarchal ideas of what a man "should" be. & this idea comes to the forefront with the depiction of the love interests
smeyer wants us to see Edward as the chivalric gentlemen from the Days of Yore. we see this in the opening doors, the cutsey little romance taglines ("you are my life now," "look after my heart; i've left it with you," "so the lion fell in love" etc), the knight saving the damsel in distress, the expensive tokens of his affection, etc.
at the same time, in both Edward & Jacob we see the crude traits of the Patriarchy Dreamboat kinda guy. if i had to sum it up, it's like the guy you see in 80s movies. "bad boy." "opposites attract." he's a jerk. he's a hunk. he's domineering. he's allowed to show emotion only & especially if that emotion is anger. he's persistent in his efforts to get the girl, going so far as to kiss her without her consent if it's For a Good Cause (Edward in New Moon post-Volterra, Jacob in Eclipse). he's a cool guy who's In Control šŸ‘‰šŸ˜ŽšŸ‘‰
perhaps that's why the Twilight saga appealed so such a large swath of women & girls. the women, who grew up with the notion that they could have the true love of their dreams so long as they submitted to the patriarchal social contract, saw the contract being fulfilled in Edward. (i.e., "you can be the king if you treat me like a princess.")
on the other hand, the 90s/00s girlies who grew up in the midst of a feminist revolution & who could see the glimmer of a dismantled patriarchy on the horizon were attracted to Edward for the flashes of radical feminist love they saw: the unapologetic expressions of emotion, the honesty of him sharing his vulnerabilities & weaknesses, Bella's ability to override Edward's will when necessary, etc.
sorry, i know this isn't really the crux of the rant you submitted, but it is extremely interesting to see these contradictions playing out in all the male characters of the saga. it's almost like smeyer is having this internal debate with herself without even realizing it...
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