#my headcanon is that eleanor kloss (yves’ mother) named her son after her older sister before she passed

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see I've been going over the timeline with my gil–obsessed friend (and I document the timeline and lore from all the routes very extensively) and this is what I came up with as a theory of my own (⚠️ under the cut for Yves and Gilbert JP spoilers ⚠️):

so, what we know for certain from Gilbert's route is that Gilbert knew of Yves's existence for years before meeting him, whereas Yves didn't know anything at all about Gilbert or the rest of his mother's side of the family. in Gilbert's route Yves specifically asks Gilbert to tell him about the Kloss family's history, because he doesn't know anything about the Kloss family. nobody in Rhodolite was privy to Obsidian noble houses, and the only person who DID know (namely, Chevalier) wouldn't tell him. this is clearly not the case on Gilbert's side, however; Gil very much knew that A) his POS grandfather brokered a treaty with Rhodolite and sent one of his daughters (Gil's aunt) there, B) said aunt gave birth to a son before dying, and C) this son, Gil's cousin would be the sole surviving heir to both the house of Kloss and the Obsidian empire's throne in case the rest of the royal family got wiped out.

the other thing we know for certain is Gilbert's family history on his father's side, specifically when's brother (Albert) and parents died. we know that Gilbert was in Rhodolite as a young child getting medical treatment, and when he returned to Obsidian he found out that the previous emperor had killed his one of his older brothers and mother. given that cybird tends to place the princes’ super traumatic events to occur around 7-9 years old (with keith being an exception) if we say Gil was around 9 years old at the time, the oldest he could be, it means Yves would have been 4 or 5 and still under the care of his nanny.

we ALSO know that the last emperor died around 10 years ago during Bloodstained Roses Day, because that is when Gilbert killed him and took the throne by force, and it’s implied his other three brothers also died/were killed BEFORE Bloodstained Roses Day. so between 21 years ago and 10 years ago Gilbert began eliminating all his remaining family members in the power struggle for the throne (Yves’s nanny died at least 19 years ago). should highlight that Yves was 2 years old when the Obsidian treaty entourage left him and like 6 or 7 years old when his nanny passed.

now that we’ve covered all the canon stuff, let’s actually get into the question of 1) how tf is Yves returned to Obsidian and 2) how does he survive the power struggle without dying at the hands of his maternal family? first one’s easy enough to answer: Granddaddy Kloss is canonically a piece of shit who basically auctioned off his two daughters in order to elevate the family’s status. it’s not too far fetched to diverge a little from canon, have him learn about Yves’s existence, and basically hold the Rhodolite king hostage and go “hey that’s the heir to my household, return him to me at once or i’ll get my son-in-law the emperor to start a war with Rhodolite” and thus have Yves shipped off to his grandfather in Obsidian.

the answer to the second question is also easy if you take the answer for the first question into consideration: cousins and other extended family members were generally not considered a part of the line of succession until all the members of the main family had passed. so unless ALL of Gilbert’s brothers AND Gilbert were deceased, Yves wouldn’t even come close to being a threat to the line of succession. additionally, in this canon-divergent universe, old Lord Kloss has already claimed Yves as HIS heir to the Kloss household, so there’s no need to eliminate Yves at all. if anything, I can see one of Gilbert’s shitty brothers actually trying to bribe and brainwash Yves into supporting them so that if they ascend to the throne they have a loyal family member (who is also the head of a well respected noble household) financially and socially backing them

tagging @wardans too i see you in the notes 😂

my brain is currently rotting with obsidianite!yves worms 🪱