#my friend kat had the thought that maybe Moon just horribly misinterpreted who evil Sun was talking about HDKSNDJ

[starheirxero]

So it was Ruin all along! To be honest, I am rather surprised, as it just seemed a little too obvious. However, like many others, I think it's a Jekyll and Hyde situation, and there's a specific reason!

This might be incoherent at best, but I will try my best to explain my thought process!

So, my reason for thinking of it as a Jekyll and Hyde situation is, rather simply, because he is an Eclipse. It is his canonical name, after all! However, unlike the Eclipse we know, and unlike Solar, he is not a part of Moon's code inside Sun's body, and rather is both Sun and Moon at the same time.

An interesting thing to note is, that it's never told to us what kind of eclipse he is. Is he a solar, or a lunar eclipse?

I think it's both.

I think there are two Ruins in one body. One is a Solar eclipse, and one is a Lunar eclipse. Both of them having different personality traits from Sun and Moon respectively.

The solar eclipse is likely the infected one. He has the theatrical and over the top nature Sun used to play up in the first videos, and the games. Meanwhile, he has Moon's intelligence. Able to rebuilt people, always planning ahead, etc.

The lunar eclipse is likely the one we've been spending our time with. He has Sun's anxiety and insecurities. Suprisingly, we don't see as many traits of Moon in him, but they are definitely here.

One thing to point out is, that one side of his face is white with a blue eye, and the other black with a red eye, which feels kind of symbolic, though it's most likely just a design choice.

The biggest question would be their existence. Why would there be two?

I am really not sure, but there are a few speculations!

One could be, that the two split due to the virus. That perhaps the virus created another personality, caused by the fact, that they are not meant to be one.

Another idea could be, that the solar side created the lunar side, as a parallel to the show's dimension. Perhaps the solar one pulled out certain personality traits that they weren't fond of, and gave them to the lunar one. Or perhaps they just split themself. Maybe this way, the virus was able to protect itself!

It's just a silly little theory though! I just thought, it's interesting, that the kind of Eclipse he is is never specified, given that we have a Sun, a Moon, two Solar Eclipses, a Lunar eclipse, and a Bloodmoon, y'know?

-Stardust

OH!!! OUHHHHH!!!!!! OUHG OKAY FIRST OF ALL THATS A SUPER FUN WAY TO VIEW RUIN OMG??? AND SECOND OF ALL I THINK I GET EXACTLY WHAT U MEAN AND HONESTLY I SUPER SUPER LOVE THAT!!!!!!

If it did turn out to be like that too, then it could sort of feel like a subtle nod to how people usually portray canon Sun and Moon, even the show itself!!! And stars honestly imo it would just make Ruin more interesting too!!

And any of ideas on how they could have split could be super fun to explore.... Specifically the one where the virus made them split gives the mental image of how water melting and freezing over and over in a crack can cause it to get bigger and bigger until it breaks apart, yk??? The virus just wiggling in deeper and deeper until the last bit of communication just snaps.

MAN I am like super vouching on some of these tbh HEHAHAJD I JUST BLORBO'D RUIN TODAY I'M NOT READY FOR HIM TO ENTER HIS VILLAIN ERA 2.0 /silly