#mostly because i find 'would sacrifice the world for the one they love' kinda dull but i think both of them love people too much.
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youssefguedira Ā· 1 month ago
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the thing is abt the joenicky wouldn't have stopped searching take is that like. they're not Better Than andy / quynh and they don't necessarily love each other More. i find it interesting to examine the idea that THEY think they couldn't have stopped but ultimately because it's not them i think they'd have no way of understanding andy's position + circumstance would've made them stop in the end. again like in my tag rant i think they're both too concerned with the greater good. they would not place each other over that. in the end.
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ohjohnno Ā· 5 years ago
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Outrageous Fortune Reviewcap: S1E09 (ā€When The Blood Burnsā€)
Iā€™ve been demurring on this one, partly because of real life shit (well, mostly that to be honest) but also because this episode isnā€™t all that good. Itā€™s an episode entirely centering around Antony Starrā€™s characters, and I sure hope they paid him double, cos the range he needed for it was tremendous. But, unfortunately, one of those characters (Van) just isnā€™t all that interesting yet, and the other (Jethro) is ill-served by one of the dumbest and most unfortunate sideplots the show has yet had. So, without further ado, weā€™ll get this one out of the way, and Iā€™ll try and keep it short.Ā 
We open with a dual appearance from the two most irritating characters in the show: Tracy and Suzy Hong, their differences now thoroughly mended and united in enjoying themselves by tormenting Van.
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Yeah, itā€™s as insufferable as it looks. An incensed Van finally snaps and threatens to quit; Mr. Hong overhears, but Van finally manages to stand up for himself and it pays off: Mr. Hong makes him manager of one of his local little stores, which seems to sell mostly cheap novelty junk. Iā€™m not entirely sure why he does this, honestly, but itā€™s a mildly important character moment for Van, so okay, I guess?
Meanwhile, in the West household, things are getting a little crazy.
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Cheryl and Kacey are promoting their new underwear business with a sorta quasi-striptease party, hosted by and for middle-aged women. Itā€™s one of the aspects of the episode I like best, not because the women are sexy but more because they really arenā€™t; theyā€™re a bunch of trashy fortysomething women, reminding the world that it isnā€™t just model-type people who like having sex, or who know how to have fun with it. Kacey makes this explicit with a little barb at the morbidly fascinated Pascalle, telling her they didnā€™t offer to use her as a model because they wanted to useĀ ā€œreal womenā€, which is a nice reminder that toxic standards of femininity cut cruelly in both directions. So, yeah, good segment - made all the better by the horror of the younger girls whoā€™ve been dragged along.
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Van returns, utterly nonplussed at the scene before him, and they all retreat to the bedroom. Antony Starrā€™s comic acting here is great, actually - he follows the others to the room and finds them using his drugs with an indignant and confused response of ā€œwell... donā€™t!ā€, and it makes me laugh every time. Draska expresses some clear interest in him, which he once again ignores, as usual. The next scene is where the plot properly begins.
The gist of it is this: the Hongsā€™ local store has their goods transported from warehouse to shelf by Draskaā€™s clan, the Doslics. Van discovers that thereā€™s a discrepancy between the number of trading cards he was meant to be shipped and the number he actually received; he goes and politely asks the Doslics about it, and they do not take that well.
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Ā  Ā I come from good people - HONEST people! Made strong by our troubles!
Naturally, they think heā€™s accusing them of thievery. Naturally, this makes Van pretty sure they really are committing thievery, and a raging Mr. Hong agrees. The two proceed to keep escalating tensions, and the rest of the Wests get caught in the crossfire; mama Doslic gets into a fight with Cheryl in a supermarket car park, Pascalle finds her old tyre-modelling photos all defaced with violent graffiti, and itā€™s all mildly funny but also kinda dull. Eventually, it turns out that Vanā€™s mate Munter has been stealing the cards from the warehouse all along, using the keys Van gave him for safekeeping. This is not the last time Van will find himself victimized by the consequences of his own actions.
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Iā€™m blasting through *a lot* of this plot here really quickly, and thatā€™s cos it just isnā€™t very interesting for the most part. Itā€™s trying to be a farce, mostly, and it sometimes succeeds; Vanā€™s initial confrontation with the Doslics is really quite funny, and his steadily increasing panic as the situation just goes more and more wrong isnā€™t bad either. But itā€™s all a bit too by-the-numbers and predictable, and in the end none of the stakes feel real; we all know that in an episode like this, the Hongs and the Doslics were never really gonna properly come to blows, and they donā€™t. Van confesses a lot of stuff to Draska in a couple of secret meetings, and while heā€™s initially paranoid about her loyalty, she proves herself by finding a way to fix the issue; she places all the blame for the break-ins on Eric (who wasĀ selling the stolen cards anyway, after buying them from Munter) and the two families come together to absolutely motherfucking whoop the guyā€™s ass, leaving him looking rather worse for wear.Ā 
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Ā  Ā  Ā  ...next thing I know Iā€™m getting the shit kicked out of me by half the WestĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā Auckland United Nations!
If I have a favorite moment in this plot, itā€™s probably near the beginning, when the elder Doslic is first bringing in what he believes to be the full shipment of cards. Heā€™s ranting and raving, the whole time he does it, about how much he just damn well hatesĀ theĀ ā€œchinksā€ and their terrible language skills, not to mention their driving - all while speaking in a heavy Croatian accent himself and also, oh yeah, taking their money. This show really does get quite a lot of comedy out of the idea that solidarity between marginalized groups really just doesnā€™t exist.
The rest of it, though? I mean, it does contain a couple of important moments, I guess. Van, after initially lying to protect Munter and only making everything worse, is genuinely willing to offer himself up, blame himself entirely, and essentially sacrifice himself in order to save everyoneā€™s hides, and only doesnā€™t end up doing it because Draska fixes it all before he has to. Thatā€™s a nice reminder that Van, at his core, really is a genuinely good person, and that his internal conflict as a character all comes from the tension between that and the toxic masculinity heā€™s had indoctrinated deep within him by his father and the culture heā€™s grown up in. Cheryl demonstrates where her loyalties lie and takes Vanā€™s side without a secondā€™s hesitation after mama Doslic shows up with complaints; for all her problems with Van, she really does love him unconditionally. But thereā€™s also too much stuff that doesnā€™t come off, like Vanā€™s boring interactions with a mildly delinquent kid who likes the trading cards, or Tracyā€™s ever-one-dimensional mistreatment of Van.Ā 
Still, at least itā€™s better than Jethroā€™s plot.
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Remember how Tracy knows now about Jethroā€™s little rape-by-deception thing a few episodes ago? Well, she still doesnā€™t seem to be thinking of it as rape, but she is trying to get him to apologize for it nonetheless. Jethro, meanwhile, wants to root her again, and he knows he canā€™t do that without apologizing. So Jethroā€™s plot this episode is several scenes in a row of him miserably failing to pull off a convincing apology, and... thatā€™s it, really. Hughā€™s back, being annoying as usual (though itā€™s intentional enough that it doesnā€™t bother me too much), and Loretta briefly shows up to mock him for how bad he is at apologizing (talk about the pot calling the kettle black!), but for the most part this is all really redundant and dull. The only interesting part comes in Lorettaā€™s video shack, where Jethro straight up lies to Carolineā€™s face, right in front of Loretta, in order to make himself some free time to go and keep trying it with Tracy. Loretta, of course, is too sociopathic to feel sorry for her, and we all knew a couple of episodes ago that Jethro wasnā€™t gonna be able to maintain it with her as a regular relationship, but the beginnings of heartbreak on Carolineā€™s face as she begins to get an inkling, in her subconscious, of whatā€™s going on is genuinely sad.
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But the ending of this plot? Itā€™s awful, and in a really unfortunate way. In the end, see, it turns out Tracy never really wanted an apology; she likes Jethro, doesnā€™t really care about the fact that he deceived her in such an intimate way, and wants it with him again. She decides heā€™s ready when... he just refuses to apologize one time, admitting he isnā€™t sorry because (and this is possibly the worst line of dialogue in the whole show, so brace yourselves):Ā ā€œwhy would I be, when it was the best fuck Iā€™ve ever had?ā€Ā 
Eugh.
So they start having an affair, and thatā€™ll stay important. Meanwhile, Vanā€™s plot ends similarly, in the superficial respect: Draska finallyĀ convinces him to have sex with her, as a celebration for the two of them getting out of that little escapade with everything intact, and itā€™s also the start of a relationship. Her toxicity, of course, has been evident the whole time from her unhealthy fixation on him, but if she demonstrated anything in this episode it was her intelligence and resourcefulness, so one suspects bad things on the horizon for Van. Nothing much happens with the rest of the characters - Loretta doesnā€™t do much other than the aforementioned mockery of Jethro and some mildly funny jabs at Pascalleā€™s choice of career, and Pascalle doesnā€™t do much other than get all horrified by whatā€™s been done to her poster. On the whole, then, this is a disappointing episode, and maybe the worst one so far. Van will get good, I promise - the potential is all there already. But weā€™ve still gotta wait for now. Until next time.
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rickrakontoys Ā· 7 years ago
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Star Wars - The Last Jedi
A wierd, different, unexpected, uneven, but ultimately satisfying episode in the franchise.
****SPOILERS**** this is going to be looooongā€¦.
The Good - The filmmakers took a lot of chances and risks here and I am happy that they did. They showed us new things that weā€™ve never seen before, and presented a plot that subverts your expectations to lead the characters to new journeys and arcs. - Luke was terrific as a dejected former jedi master whoā€™s past failure led him to exile. Some fans may have wanted him to remain some kind of power fantasy character who just uses the Force toā€¦ blow Star Destroyers up or some shit, but here he plays a believable interpretation of a teacher who failed his students and is suffering from deep regrets. He came to that isolated island ā€œto dieā€ as he says, but his arc here follows the theme of ā€œlearning to pick yourself up even in the face of terrible failure". Despite being an old curmudgeon now, he is still recognizably Luke Skywalker. Mark Hamill gives his best performance here. And his final ā€œbattleā€ at the end is badass, surprising and clever, not to mention showing us a new use of The Force (which in my mind totally makes some sense). If the dead can project their image through the force, why canā€™t a living jedi? That Luke acts quite dramatic when facing Kylo Ren as a ā€œhologramā€ is just funny. Lukeā€™s journey ended in ROTJ. Here he plays one final part in the story of this galaxy. ā€œSee you around kidā€ he says to Kylo. Perhaps he is saying it to us as well. - Leia has a lot of unexpected scenes hereā€¦ namely, her use of the Force to save herself from what would have been a deadly experience! This felt at first like it came out of nowhere, but Leia has previously shown to possess some strong connection to the Force. Her character is out of commission for a chunk of the movie, but Carrie Fisher does give a very subtle and poignant performance here. How they will reconcile Fisherā€™s passing for Episode 9 will remain to be seenā€¦ - Rey and Kyloā€™s journeys here compliment each other and are amazing. You honestly donā€™t know how things will turn out, since they tease both of them being pulled away from their respective sides of the Force often here. Their direct connection to each other through the Force was new, and gave us some very interesting scenes where they talk and interact despite being worlds apart. Kylo gets much more development here, and does some rather unexpected things. He is both sympathetic, and detestable. He is still very much a tortured young man lashing out at the galaxy. Rey mostly plays the role of the student in search of a teacher. She goes looking for Luke, finds him, but he ainā€™t having it at all, and just lets her hang around for a bit to her disappointment. She eventually takes her own initiative and sort of earns Lukeā€™s respect for it. - We perhaps learn who Reyā€™s parents are, and it was as I wished: they are nobodies who sold her off as a kid then died in a shallow grave on Jakku. I would have HATED if they were somehow someone we already knewā€¦ Reyā€™s importance isnā€™t through blood but through her own initiative. She even admits to knowing all along but being afraid to admit it. Daisy Ridley is still fantastic as Rey. I like her even more than before! Kylo can satisfy the Skywalker bloodline requirement of the series in this new trilogy. Let someone else be the hero for a change. - Kylo just straight up murders that silly CGI Supreme Leader Snoke and I love it. Snoke was just Palpatine-lite, and Kylo is clearly the more interesting villain the new series should focus on. Who cares who Snoke wasā€¦ nobody really cared who Palpatine was in ROTJā€¦ he too was just an evil overlord who gets killed by his apprentice (until Lucas devoted 3 movies to himā€¦). This feels like Rain Johnson cleaning up after JJ Abrams. Snoke was silly and Iā€™m glad he dies unclimactically after only 2 movies. - Poe is a lot more hot-headed here than in the first movie, though we didnt really spend much time with him in TFA. He gets an arc here too though, which also fits in with the themes of the film. His actions get a ton of people killed and essentially cripples the Resistance, but he learns from his mistakes eventually and becomes a better leader for it. - The general theme of the movie being moving past oneā€™s failures is interesting here since it let the filmmakers subvert so many tropes. Most of the plans the Resistence people enact all lead to disaster. In fact, their desperate flight from impending doom through the entire movie felt quite harrowing. Unlike ESB where the rebels successfully escape Hoth to live and fight another day with minimal losses, the Resistance here is absolutely wrecked and continue to be destroyed through the entire runtime. How they will recover from this remains to be seen, and we now know nothing about where this story will go in Episode 9 because of how screwed they are by the endā€¦ Meanwhile the First Order suffers from their own failures, but appear too smug about themselves to see their own hubris. They could have easily wiped the Resistance out, but choose to slowly chase them, as if to let the rebels witness the loss of all hope. It doesnā€™t exactly backfire, but instead renews the rebels fire to fight back. - There is a lot about the Force here that evolves the Star Wars mythos a bit. From the old Jedi texts, to Luke admitting that the Jedi doomed themselves long ago in the prequels, we see Star Wars moving past Jedi and Sith and becoming something different. Iā€™m glad they didnt rely so heavily on what only was shown before with respect to the capabilities of a Force user or the nature of the Force in general. People may not like this, but the change is welcome. Alsoā€¦ YODA!!!! Slightly crazed puppet Yoda!!! Heā€™s still teaching Luke new things. Wished ghost Obi-wan also appeared somehowā€¦ but that may be going too far. - The battles and duels in this movie were spectacular. The lightsaber fight in Snokeā€™s throne room? One of the best fights in the seriesā€¦ it was exciting and realistically choreographed, flashy without being excessive (like the prequels). A good balance between the fights in the OT and prequels. Seeing Rey and Kylo battling Snokeā€™s guards in a long take, shot clearly with the static angleā€¦ magnificent. Plus we get to see Kylo at full strength as opposed to crippled in TFA. He takes on multiple enemies at once, while Rey struggles with one guard. - The cinematography here is in general quite lovely. Rian Johnson loves his wide shots, and fills them with a beauty not often seen in these movies. There are some gorgeous shots hereā€¦ from Holdoā€™s weaponized Hyperspace maneuver, to Lukeā€™s standoff against the AT-ATs, and his final scene looking to the twin sunset that recalls the similar shot on Tatooine long agoā€¦ the use of color throughout makes for a very pretty movie. - We get flashback scenes here oddly enoughā€¦ which we never got in other episode films. Plus, Rian wasnt afraid to venture into other types of shots and scenes, like a minor use of slow motion. They let the filmmmakers inject their own style into the movie. - The porgs were thankfully not too obtrusive. They are just sorta there to annoy Chewie. Chewie roasting some for dinner while they watch horrified was great and rather morbid. - Seeing Luke on the Falcon again, and his scene with R2ā€¦ very poignant, and melancholy. They somehow manage to use Leiaā€™s old message to Obi Wan to further Lukeā€™s character development. - The battle on the salt planet Crait was neat. They make you think there will be some Hoth style battle against the AT-ATs, but its ultimately subverted by having the Resistance not even have a remote chance at all of doing any damage due to their lack of useful weapons. Finn tries the heroic sacrifice butā€¦ ehā€¦ Rose saves him and ends up letting the First Order blast a hole in the base. The hopelessness is really driven far here. - It took until the ending for me to realize Poe never was introduced to Rey ever. Also, did Rey steal the Jedi texts from that tree Luke planned on torching? You see some books in a drawer that Finn takes a blanket out of on the Falcon. Perhaps Rey will use them to help revive the Jedi order? - The last scene of the movie was an odd one to close out onā€¦ some orphans talking about Luke Skywalker like some legendary heroā€¦ then one of them uses the force to grab a broom? The Force is alive in others! Hope always survives! A bit on the nose but it makes you contemplate the future beyond the current heroes. The Badā€¦. - Finn and Roseā€™s entire subplot was superfulous and kind of terribleā€¦ I could see how it ties into the theme of the movie (hatching a clever plan to fight the First Order that ultimately fails spectacularly, but they keep fighting anyways), but that didnt stop it from being rather dull. Canto Blight felt out of placeā€¦ like you were watching Harry Potter or the Hunger Games. And the whole animal horse chase thing fell kinda flatā€¦ - Benicio del Toro is in thisā€¦ he plays some wierdo hacker (slicer?) with a stutter. He ultimately amounts to very little. Heā€™s played convincingly, but only added to the superfulousness of Finn and Roseā€™s subplotā€¦ - In factā€¦ that whole subplot was what damaged this movie severely. It is clearly the weakest part of an otherwise interesting film. How they come up with the plan to infiltrate the First Order ship to disable their hyperspace tracking device thing felt halfbaked. Finn and Rose spout some technobabble that feels straight out of Star Trek, then decide to gungho this odd mission. They threw Maz Kanata in there for a moment for no reasonā€¦ why would Finn and Poe ask her for help? Finn barely met her. Does Poe even know her at all? All of this coulda been avoided if Vice Admiral Holdo just told Poe about her and Leiaā€™s secret plan at the start! - Rose is gonna be divisiveā€¦. she feels like a fan stand-in character. She fangirls over Finn, goes on an adventure with him, and is suddenly in love with him? Sure I guessā€¦ i suppose i could buy that, considering she was previously some unseen common worker for the Resistance meeting a ā€œcelebrityā€. Finn didnt seem to react much to her kiss though. His heart seems out for Rey. - Rey just casually dropping herself off at Snokeā€™s ship felt a wee bit too convenientā€¦ then after the battle in the throne room she justā€¦ appears back on the Falcon. Jarring, despite the attempt to explain it. - Phasma is used so little i wonder why they bothered making her a unique character at allā€¦ to sell toys? She gets a badass fight where she dominates Finn, but then seemingly dies in a fiery pit. Maybe they will make it a running gag that she keeps coming back? I hope she survived and returns later anyways. We get to see Gwendolyn Christieā€™sā€¦ eye. Yay? - The music here plays off established themes from the OT and TFA, which is fine, but otherwise there really isnt anything new here. Rose gets a new leitmotif at least. They use Palpatineā€™s theme during some Snoke scenes too, but is it meant to suggest they are related? - Honestly, the middle of the film just drags too long, and its all due to the Finn and Rose scenes. I get they needed to have Finn do something, but was that Canto Blight stuff necessary? That they just fly off somewhere then return to the fleet chase later kinda trivialized the whole scenario. They also introduce an idea that weapons manufacturers are profitting off the perpetual war between empire and rebellion. Neat, but they donā€™t really explore it furtherā€¦ feels like that belongs in a different movieā€¦ - The beginning of the movie focused a lot on Roseā€™s sister despite us not knowing much about her. Just kinda an odd choice? Those rebel bombers that just drop bombs on top of the dreadnught are also kinda dumbā€¦ most of the rebel fighter craft are decimated right off the bat. Summary: It may take more viewings to see where this truly stands qualitywise in the series. The Force Awakens definitely flowed better and had better pacing, but this one was more inventive and introduced us to newer concepts and was less predictable. Apart from the weak Canto Blight subplot and some other plot goofery, the film works. For now, I think it can give it an 8.5/10.0. I respect the hell out of them for doing some ballsy things that they know will rile part of the fanbase. Franchise rankings (out of 10): ESB & ANH 9.0 (fresh and with a truly lasting legacy) TLJ 8.5 (for evolving the franchise) RotJ 8.25 (a good close to the OT but imperfect) TFA 8.0 (overly familiar beats but still fun) ROTS 7.0 (flawed but sort of gives more weight to what happens in ROTJ) Rogue One 6.5 (very flawed, kind of a mess) TPM & AOTC 5.0 (some parts of it i like, the rest is nonsensical or dull) People seem to forget how different ESB was from ANH. This is the case here compared to TFA. I think its neat how each trilogy has its own unique feel and energy. I only hope JJ Abrams grows beyond his shortcomings in Ep. 9 and gives us something also unique and fresh.
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