#most of the sources are terfs and terfs citing nazis. one of the sources is saying the am i a girl website is grooming :)))

[gremlingirlsmell]

ngl if your hitpiece about a subgroup transfems starts with "I think transmisogyny is real, BUT" you know youre gonna read the most egregious transmisogynistic drivel

[shadowmaat]

Mullet Wig, the Llama King

New drama just dropped!

I think we've all noticed that our favorite hellsite has some... issues when it comes to moderating toxic groups: Nazis, transphobes, TERFs, extremists of every stripe, etc.

In fact, there seems to be a trend where the victims of those groups are more likely to suffer consequences than the perpetrators themselves. Even in my tiny little mud puddle among the tumbleweeds I've heard things.

So when Our Kitty of Hacking, who has the bonus of being a reliable source, shares a story of a trans woman being banned from the site, I go digging.

In THIS corner we have a trans woman buckling under the weight of harassment and stalking. She's made multiple appeals to the mod squad for help and been continually ignored.

In frustration, she makes a post wishing for cartoonish violence to happen to Our Supreme Overlord... and gets banned.

In THAT corner we have Our Supreme Overlord, who bought a site that has never been profitable, couldn't turn a profit, and decided to shove it in the corner.

Under a deluge of complaints about the banning, he feigns having the high ground and cites the reasons why he's totally right and everyone else is wrong.

Point the first: "We have queer folks on staff, so we can't be queerphobic! They've never complained!"

Having queer peeps on staff doesn't mean much. For most companies it's just a checkmark to show how cool and inclusive they are. It doesn't mean they're treated well, it doesn't mean their concerns are listened to or addressed, and it doesn't mean that they speak for the entire community. Also? Just because they don't say anything doesn't mean they don't have objections. "fear of losing your job" is a hella big reason to keep your mouth shut.

"There was unmarked sexually explicit material and that's against our TOS!"

There's a difference between "showing off results of surgery while fully clothed" and "sexually explicit material" you absolute corncob.

"There were threats of violence!"

A Looney Tunes-style threat, especially one couched as "I hope" rather than "I'm going to" is not something to be taken seriously.

Also? The victim you've chosen to vilify was also receiving threats of violence- likely much more realistic and specific- and yet those threats were apparently not found to be in violation. Interesting how that works.

Additional point: You misgendered her. You fucking MISGENDERED HER. There is absolutely no excuse for that and you can't fucking claim you "didn't know" her pronouns. If you aren't sure, you FIND OUT before you go spouting self-defensive bullshit.

You've turned a blind eye to the hate groups and bad actors on here for years. Now, suddenly, when it's all about YOU, you suddenly find a way to moderate/remove anyone who hurts your fee-fees. C'mon, dude. I'll do a whipround to get you some mountaineering gear so you can finally get over yourself.

Just go back to ignoring us, you soggy cabbage.

[wirewitchviolet]

Actually, ALL the things you’ve picked up from TERFs about trans people are blatant lies, not just the things from after you caught on to what ridiculous hatemongers they are.

So the other day I saw someone talking about a piece of media that chose to indicate a character was trans by having that character’s bedroom decorated with some trans pride stuff and one of that characters parents’ having a little solidarity pin too to show that we’re going for “cool little fact you might not know” and not “tragic secret” with it. Responses to this had a lot of trans people cheering because hey that’s some nice clear cut representation, in a way that’s both totally unambiguous and realistic, while avoiding all the stupid crap cis people try when they go for positive trans representation like having a characters go around telling everyone their deadnames or casting people in drag or whatever, BUT there were also a ton of people responding to this, and not just bigots either, just absolutely losing their minds and bending over backwards to think of why a cis character would have a bedroom full of trans pride stuff, because the idea of this character they liked and thought was cool being trans just was not compatible with some unexamined BS or other they’d all internalized. So... let’s unpack that maybe?

So, trans people have been around for as long as people have been around. We’ve been over this plenty of times. Have a quick little video of things you can go look up if you need a refresher though.

It’s not impossible that transphobes have also been around forever, here and there. It’s baked into colonialism where like, we have the term “missionary sex” because creepy zealots went all over the world threatening and blackmailing people to only have sex in that position and they call it their “mission.” And there was the whole attempted total eradication of us by the nazis and all. Typically though these seems to come across in this very openly right-wing authoritarian “the very fact that you exist contradicts the collection of weird fantasies I need to believe to avoid the reality where I’m a pathetic idiot.”

In the grand scheme of things, the TERF approach of going “oh I’m actually a real bleeding heart feminist scientist who cares about children and the environment and it just turns out that when you really look at the data that I totally obtained through the actual scientific method and didn’t just completely pull out of my ass and counting on nobody ever asking me for sources unfortunately says trans people are baby-eating rapists with hulk powers who have infiltrating every position of power and influence, honest!” That one’s relatively new.

I’d hope that these days, it’s easy for most people to see through that. Like yeah, the real hardcore fascists will pretend to believe such propaganda is on the level in order to help push through new kinds of discrimination and rationalizations for violence, but anyone with a functioning contest and critical thinking skills isn’t generally too far away from seeing how these people just talk like the nazis they are when they aren’t actively drafting propaganda pieces, or there will be some virality to something like this-

...or this...

... or one of those “Parker Posie” videos where she’s just like cheering at a crowd of armed nazis and encouraging them to go on killing sprees, and when you see that stuff you hopefully go “hmm... maybe the violent people who can’t stop talking about showing porn to toddlers aren’t on the level, and I shouldn’t trust their completely unhinged claims that the trans mafia are kidnapping children and replacing their genitals with grenade launchers or whatever.”

But that kinda relies on “being extremely online” and seeing the weird violent fantasies juxtaposed with the propaganda pieces citing the made up studies and such. And while this is a relatively new approach like I said, that’s relative to... the whole history of humanity. This particular tactic got started around the 70s or so, and back then, you absolutely didn’t see the terrifying mask-off moments. For that matter, you didn’t see the absurd propaganda pieces either. They didn’t really have the means to get those out to the public like they do now.

So the main way people used to get familiar with this sort of thing was, some foaming at the mouth bigot writes their big scaremongering screed and gets it printed in some unscrupulous magazine or whatever. Then some screenwriter looking for inspiration stumbles across that and goes, “ooh, I can sensationalize this weirdness to make this exploitation thriller I’m working on feel like it’s grounded in something,” and tada, here’s half a century of movies and TV filtering the absolutely bonkers propaganda and convincing the average person a typical trans woman is like a linebacker who just busted out of a mental institution treating some weird multiple identities time-sharing a single body disorder caused by Some People Are Just Born Crazy Syndrome who then immediately put on a slinky black dress and started murdering women to steal their pituitary glands to make love potions and maybe also skinning them to make bodysuits, then seducing men so they become gay or something.

Anyway, that’s all exactly as made up as the grenade launcher thing. Trans people don’t have weird brain problems, aren’t sex weirdos, aren’t serial killers, aren’t crossdressers, or any of a dozen other lies that were taught to you as facts your whole life. Please get over all that nonsense conditioning and reach a point where you understand there is no inherent conflict between being trans and being a tiny acrobatic girl with cool hair or whatever. That’s a weird thing to be unable to square in your mind.