#most likely with the excuse that theyll be ‘taking the foundation down from the inside’
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alstroemerian-dragon · 1 year ago
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(okay so this is the part where i add a disclaimer that i Have Not watched the anime and all information i know about events within it are through secondary information like the wiki. and also that personally i regard the anime as Dubiously Canon because i dont like some of the story decisions team dr made and i make the choices now because im Selfish. my city now angel_emoji.jpg)
see when i heard abt the memory erasure thing it always confused me because i. could never figure out if it was supposed to be ‘at some point during the tragedy he had the despair’s memories of him as hajime erased to. avoid complications?’ or ‘before the events of the simulation, he had their memories of ever interacting with izuru erased to. purify the data set?’ either one is pretty weird in my opinion, because wasnt the idea that izuru’s memories of being hajime were repressed? why would he even know what needed to be erased? did he scour the school for information during the tragedy? that would only have been possible after the events of the first game when it was actually abandoned, and by that point why would there even be a reason to? and as for the second option…
something i think people dont remember is that there is a HEAVY implication that izuru is the reason the remnants turned themselves into the foundation. during the last arc of the game, if you actually read and analyze all the emails found throughout the school and read between the lines, the implication is that izuru anonymously sent the foundation information on a group of disparate ‘survivors’ of HPA’s fall, and that when the foundation found them, they turned themselves in willingly as scared, maybe even amnesiac teenagers!! the foundation notes that the survivors ‘can’t tell them anything yet’ which, to me, means they pretended not to know anything about the fall of the academy. only after research, and, of course, because class 78 would have recognized them, did makoto and the others realize who they actually were and squirrel them away to jabberwock.
if that’s true, then. why the hell would he want their memories of him erased. that would mess up his whole plan. why would any of them listen to him and follow along if they didnt know who he was?????
this isnt me arguing with you (hi alda i respect u soooooo much), this is mostly me pointing out how absolutely ridiculous some of the ideas team dr comes up with are fjshdjsfjshdj like. why would he do that. what would even be the point of it. the only person we ever see izuru actually interact with in game canon is nagito in chapter 0, but you could just make an argument for him never interacting specifically with nagito, which to me would make sense!! nagito to me is the kind of person who just wandered around sort of ambiently causing destruction, and izuru (if he played the role he does in my head), as junkos basically. mouth piece i guess? would probably never be capable of getting in contact with him fishdjsksk
anyway. all this to say that even if any memories were erased, i doubt it was permanent, and the neo world program most likely would have made them resurface anyway. which. to be honest, has the added bonus of the people waking up going ‘what the fuck… who… oh. oh its izuru. wait. who the fuck… no thats hajime. but no that cant be hajime. what the fuck? who is that????’
the thing about. okay so when i first got into dr i was like ‘i think i prefer an outcome where they ultimately cant wake the other ten members of their class and its just the five survivors because then the deaths meant something yknow’ and while i still think that that kind of thing has. yknow. merit and value. i have actually come around to preferring them being able to do it. with one massive caveat.
it takes forever.
it takes at least a year and a half, two years maybe, before they (lets be real, hajime) even gain the knowledge of the system, work out its quirks, beef up its security and tech, connect it to enough power, and build the proper technology to manage something like this, and even then, each person is going to need a unique plan of action. its going to take ages. i think its best if they start from the first death through the last, which has the added benefit of waking the impostor first and gaining a good moral compass and grounding presence. but… i mean. its almost two years before they even manage the first dive into their brain. two years of living alone, just the five of them, of building each other up of building a dynamic, one that works, and of changing and growing because they have no other choice.
so when it comes down to them actually attempting to wake the first person… theres some anxiety. theres some worry. theres a lot of ‘this is going to radically alter how we relate to each other and everyone else’. theres a lot of ‘this is going to make things weird’. theres a lot of ‘theyre not going to understand a lot of things at first not only because its been two years since we all went under and everything has changed in that time but also because the five of us have a fundamentally different relationship now with each other than we will have with anyone else we wake up. thats going to cause conflict’.
and i dont even necessarily mean that in a romantic relationship sense (though if you know me you know im deeply unwell about kuzuhina and also an absolute sucker for polycule shit so yeah i do also kinda mean it in that way), but just that their bond is so strong. living alone on an island in the middle of nowhere for two years with just four other people will do that. they know each other in fundamental ways that the others may never manage. fuyuhiko may get peko back, but her relationship with him will never be the one he has with hajime, or akane, or kazuichi or sonia. sonia will get gundham back, but despite them definitely regaining their romantic relationship (after an adjustment period, of course), there will be an odd dissonance in how well hajime and akane know her in ways gundham doesnt. akane will get nekomaru back in her life. but he will never be the person she goes to with the things she goes to hajime with.
this isnt necessarily entirely negative, of course. relationships are always going to be different with different people because theyre. yknow. different people. but i think theres going to be a period of time, maybe even the rest of their lives, where the ten sleepers in the vault will understand, intrinsically, that the relationship the five survivors has is never going to be fully understood, and will always be special and different from what they all have as a group.
hajime, fuyuhiko, kazuichi, akane, and sonia all faced arguably the hardest parts of the healing process, the stumbling blindly with no hand to hold except the others with an equal lack of sight, together, and that. does things. to a relationship.
they will all manage the healing process, and they will all struggle through it. but never in the same way those five did.
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