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oplishin · 3 months ago
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what are your thoughts on patho 2 re race
i don't think you were looking for such a long response but uhhh you're getting one!!!!! smarter people have discussed this better, but i have a lot of feelings.
the good:
the broad strokes of artemy's relationship to his race: everytime i have replayed p2, i find myself surprised by how much artemy's angst resonates with me. he can fit into the broader, white culture of the Town, but that acceptance is always conditional. his friends have this "you're not like them" attitude, or they're just outright racist to him. they hate his people but like him. He's also not accepted by the Kin- he's spent too much time both in the Town and outside of it. the way elders in the community chide him is too real, haha. artemy discovering that the cultural practices he ran away from in his youth actually really, really matter to his identity is a feeling i find uhhh really relatable!!! this aspect of p2 just rings really emotionally true.
i like the way (some of) the racism is written: vlad jr is obsessed with learning about the culture of the Kin, he's even gained some trust with them, but wow, he does not give a shit about them when it comes down to it. they're an object of study to him, artifacts to collect, not actually people. andrey takes the cultural art of twyre tinctures and uses it to make a profit and to get really high. he keeps a dancing herb bride in his bar as entertainment. rubin's deal feels similar, he's learning kin traditions because of his weird weird relationship with isidor, but he hates the people. i like that foreman oyun sells out his culture, and that he hates himself so much for it.
okay. it's only downhill from here.
the bad. there's a lot:
the endings
i think the endings are cynical to the point of being unnuanced and un-interesting. the tragic mulatto trope played as straight as possible to a comically extreme degree. either almost every NPC you've met dies, or you destroy the remnants of your indigenous culture. it's just. i don't know. it wouldn't be very pathologic for this to have an actual magical solution- there isn't a magical solution in real life, the status quo just churns onward, and indigenous bodies and lives are discounted. i don't know. i don't know!
i hate that the game presents the diurnal ending as better than the nocturnal one. this is the part where my faulty memory is troublesome- i may be getting the way the fandom treats the endings mixed up with the way the game does. sorry if that's the case! the diurnal ending is bright, the town you've spent so much time saving is safe at last, all your children and friends are rebuilding their lives in interesting ways that you get to take part in. but it's fucking disgusting! the bodies and lives and culture of indigenous people are utterly discounted. this includes artemy, who's doomed to forever try to fit into white society, to never be able to pass on his cultural traditions, who just has to let himself die. the only person who mourns is a dying Aspity, who was one of the last people to carry on and teach tradition anyways. it's terrible.
i,, honestly do not remember much of the nocturnal ending, and a lot of went over my head when i played it. the majority of people read the nocturnal ending as "the bad ending"- all your friends die. and even though they're all super racist, you care about them, probably.
whyyyyyy are the indigenous characters written Like That????
it is fucking embarrassing that 26/29 of the Bound are white. i cannot believe this did not change with 14 years of hindsight post p1. well, the game did add nara, and she deserves her own paragraph!!!! wow, lucky her!!!!!!!!! the kin are so fucking underrepresented within the major characters. the white characters are given complex, differing perspectives about the nature of government, spirituality, morality and guilt. pathologic 2 writes the Kin as a mystical, esoteric hivemind. the non-diversity in the perspectives within the Kin was always something that bothered me, even when I was 15. They do not feel like a real, breathing living group of people. minority groups are not monoliths. i think the game wants to represent them as a collectivist culture, but is too racist to know that people within collectivist cultures uhhh have opinions about things.
p2's racism is just slightly more subtle than p1's, to the point where my stupid fucking 15 year old self didn't pick up on it as much. but god, it also asks the incredible question "what if racist stereotypes were true? wouldn't that sort of justify mass genocide? isn't the diurnal ending just as valid as the nocturnal ending?"
so much justification for the white characters' racism within the fandom comes from "but the indigenous characters did [x] bad thing! but their culture is misogynist!" which 1) fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you 2) someone made the active choice to write the indigenous characters like this. now why would they do this??
the misogyny
god i fucking hate the herb brides. i know that the fandom has tried to reclaim them in interesting ways. i just really cannot. why are these dancers all soft and curvy in the correct ways? why do their clothes fall off to look like they're wearing raggedy skimpy swimsuits? why are gamers soooo horny?? i'm. i cannot! i can't. this game has an asian women fetish. no thanks!
this brings me to the nara thing, which, okay. i'm about to get really mean!!! nara is this demure, docile, exotically sexy lady who's totally cool with giving up her agency artemy and being killed by him because the game has deemed it necessary. sorry, i do not care abotu the diegetic reasons for this. there's a dream sequence where her sexy sillohuette dances in the void. why? this game has a misogyny problem! and a yellow fever problem!! so much of her dialogue is dedicated to "ohhh i'm trying to make you less uncomfortable with this, artemy :(. i'm indifferent i promise :((" she doesn't protest in her death, she just says lore at the player. i'm not happy. i find the attempts to reclaim her in fandom admirable, i'm just. disgusted! by all of it! this game owes me reparations.
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songthursh · 1 year ago
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A very, VERY basic doctors argument
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gortyballs · 2 months ago
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Ketheric when he meets a really cool guy with a really cool name 🤦‍♂️
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dramaqueer-commie · 1 month ago
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oh my jesus fucking christ????
neverafter spoilers
everyone trying to talk to the princesses is the funniest shit ive seen in my goddamn life?!?!!!
Gerard nervously babbeling about the apocalypse while insisting its not a sex thing and then EXITING THE ROOM DANCING AND SINGING HER HAIR IS EVERYWHERE AFTER SERIOUSLY DECLARING "if i dont come back its because Rapunzel GOT ME!" is the funniest murph bit ive ever seen???
Cinderella seriously went "thats how sight works"?????? omg are yall trying to kill me???? but also like what was she supposed to say?? "does that sorts work in... in reverse?"???? hello? Pinocchio?? what are you DOING???
I was like "omg Mother Goose trying to match Rapunzels energy is so smart this is gonna be good" COMPLETELY forgetting this is Ally Beardsly, its gonna get real weird, real fast. "so we're both kinda just doing this creepy thing, all right..."??? oh so you know its creepy? but also yes why did Rapunzel go "this person is acting really strange, i better do what hes doing"???? arent you supposed to be some social genius??? whats happening???
"THIS HAS BEEN... LONG"!?!???!? ALLY YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD there is nothing i respect more than making a worse choice bc its a million times funnier
i started this episode like "wow being stuck in this castle and having to trick your way out without making them realize you know their plan and they can hear everything is the scariest part of this season so far well done" and i guess to comedians all of their brains clicked at the same time "time to break the tension"
by gods you did. and it was magnificent
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hanzajesthanza · 1 year ago
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you know those charts depicting the rapid growth of domestic chickens over the decades
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well, after seeing the original publication of a shard of ice in fantastyka magazine (topic for another post because it really is just wonderfully illustrated by jarosław musiał)
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i was thinking, after seeing these illustrations... when my heart jumped for joy at seeing art of books-geralt, taking no visual influence from adaptations-not-yet-made...
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(i've censored yennefer's sorceress-presenting... for tumblr)
that the remarkably-accurate-to-his-prose-descriptions-shaped geralt looks nothing like his modern interpretations
and, well...
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when lined up like this, it really is more drastic than you think. what ARE they doing to him. bring who and what geralt is supposed to be back. this is so unfair. for geralt and for the body standards these changes represent
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jtl-fics · 1 year ago
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HI!!! Can we get new kings perhaps 👑👑
WIP Wednesday Game 8/9/23 (Closed) | New Kings AU
Wymack looks down at Kevin and his entire attention was on him in that moment.
"Kevin, do you...remember?" he asks hesitantly.
"Dad, how are you here? Did I die?" Kevin asks reaching for Wymack but finding his hand in a cast that appeared in his nightmares as often as the pain that always accompanied it. It felt like bullshit that the after life had pain too.
"Son, it's going to be okay. I promise we can talk once I make sure everyone else is o-"
"Coach?" Dan's voice cuts through and Wymack and Kevin look over to see Dan looking at Wymack with tears in her eyes. "Coach is that you?" she asks absently wiping blood away from a shallow cut on her cheek.
"Dan? Did you hit your-"
Wymack doesn't get to say anything else as he's hit on both sides as Abby and Dan are hugging him tight.
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codename-adler · 5 months ago
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yk its past 3am so im going to sleep now but also i’ve had more caffeine intake than i normally do so my brain is working over hours and i’ve thought about the black hair jeremy knox headcanon
and surprisingly i have a fancast????? if jeremy knox would have black hair his fancast would be the guy playing jess in gilmore girls but specifically the way he looks in the show (i dont think i’ve ever seen anything else w him around that age so idk how different he would look in other roles)
milo ventimiglia????? girl you have so much more good faith than i 😅
i've got no clear face in mind, just like regular blond jeremy, but in the specific events of a band AU + jerm going wild & dying his hair black for the aesthetic, i very much picture a 'bad' hair dye job. as in, it's so obvious it's been dyed and that black is not his natural color, like actors physically getting into character for a role. it suits him v well, don't get me wrong!! he's always pretty.
i don't think there is a world in which i can personally imagine jeremy being naturally black-haired. best i can do is wtv this:
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og trojans band au idea: @minyard-05 <3
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ssiat · 1 year ago
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early Laundry today or naked tomorrow SET
[1] 85$ Towel drying rack(deco)
[2] 10$ Drying rack(deco)
[3] 13$ Powder detergent
[4] 45$ Cleaning bucket
[5] 45$ Caution sign
[6] 45$ Mop
[7] 15$ Poster
PATREON(early)
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grooviestguru · 2 years ago
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lest we forget, the books are set in 2006/7, which was the PEAK of shaggy haired youth. the fox men (minus Matt, with his gel) definitely have to shake bangs out of their eyes. we already know Neil does with his cute lil bandana
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oplishin · 1 month ago
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i forget that the patho fandom is full of genuinely the most talented artists i have ever seen in any fandom
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rohirric-hunter · 2 months ago
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The thing to do if you're playing a strategy game and not winning is to just pick the funniest angle possible and stick to that bit like glue
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jewishbarbies · 4 months ago
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if you’re one of those people that think katniss would be fighting for palestine in the pro hamas way and be on your side, while simultaneously cheering on the murder of children as long as they’re “the enemy’s” children, you’re gonna wanna re-read those books, bud.
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lemonlurkrr · 2 years ago
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Drawerings I did in class :))
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gatheredfates · 3 months ago
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I've reduced my queue for now so I can try to build it back up but, like always, I promise I'm not dead. I played the WoW remix this weekend because my partner and I discovered it's actually fun and we raided the tail end of MoP and most of WoD. Compendium and stuff will resume next week. 💖 I think I needed a weekend of brainless nonsense.
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IMMENSELY FRUSTRATED but it’s okay cause we have a bit of time to play viscera cleanup detail while we eat lunch
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stellar-mop · 1 year ago
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My partner: So, how's your [other fandom] fic going? Me: Slowly Me: I got distracted by the cannibalism fandom Her: ... Me: ... Her: ... Me: :) :) :)
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