#monarchy Young royals

[raincitygirl76]

Excellent, thoughtful review, but chock full of spoilers for all of Season 3 of YR.

[raincitygirl76]

When Simon Eriksson decides to fuck with the monarchy, he brings his A game. You can’t criticize his commitment to the cause.

simon thoroughly fucking this boy up like 5 minutes before he has to give his speech. thanks pal!

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[elnotwoods]

me, watching eps 1-5 of yr s3: WHAT ABOUT SOME MEDIA TRAINING FOR SIMON AND THE ROYAL COURT SITTING HIM DOWN AND EXPLAINING THINGS TO HIM

[raincitygirl76]

Am I a bad person if reading the above made me cackle with schadenfreude? The fact that Wilhelm handed over this poisoned chalice without malice is just astoundingly delightful.

What’s even better about Augusts fate is that Wille didn’t give him the title out of spite, as a final fuck you of some sorts. No. He’s forgiven August as much as he can. He thinks he’s doing him a favor.

[myyoungroyalsblog]

Look at that smile, Wilhelm loved the picture

[moodboard-d]

[thatsmybook]

I'm thinking about Simon breaking up with Wille on his birthday, when he realises that him helping Wille to stay in his role, in the role that is hurting him, is him telling him I'm not going to help you hurt yourself anymore. Not one minute more.

Then I'm thinking about Wille telling his mum that he's renouncing his role whilst his mum is still ill, partly because he sees that the role is making his mum ill and he rejects that future for himself. His mum even says to him: not today Wille, please, and he says: no, I don't want to upset you, mom. But I've never had the opportunity to discuss this with you without being frustrated or impulsive.

Along with Simon has he learned that the timing is never right for these conversations and to take the chance when you have the courage to take it? Wille barely has his parents' attention all season, and both times that he does, he has really serious things to tell them. Emancipating himself from this role even whilst his mum is very ill is as bad timing as Simon breaking up with him on his birthday, but both times, these things had to happen as soon as they did.

[raincitygirl76]

My grievance with S3 was less with Wilhelm stepping down and more with the way the story of him stepping down was told.

That said, I don’t agree with everything above, but it’s a very interesting take nonetheless. Well worth taking the time to read.

Young Royals is anti-monarchist propaganda (always has been) 

I think it’s fair to say that most of the fandom was quite happy with the finale. However, I’ve seen a handful of posts by people who were unhappy, specifically  those who were unhappy with Wille giving up his place in the line of succession. These criticisms range in everything from dismissing Wille’s choice (Wilhelm has made a harsh decision without thinking of the consequences, this won’t actually make the media circus around him go away), to those disappointed in how the monarchy in general was represented (Wille could have modernized the institution, no one in the show attempted to consider how the monarchy could be good, actually). I don’t want to invalidate anyone’s feelings about the finale. If you didn't like it, that’s more than ok and I don’t want to argue with anyone about their taste. 

But when it comes to criticism about Wilhelm giving up the throne,  I do find myself frustrated at what I see as a fundamental misunderstanding of what this show was trying to communicate. Young Royals, plain and simple, is a story that  denounces the incompatibility of antiquated and hierarchical institutions (Hillerska, the monarchy) with equality and justice. 

If you’ve had the displeasure of being my fandom friend you’ll know that I’ve spent the last 3 years yelling about how this show is about abolishing the monarchy. I even wrote a lengthy  fanfic with the sole excuse of having Wilhelm arrive at this conclusion. Still, I knew that whatever statement the show wanted to arrive at, we’d only really be getting to it at the end of the show. 

Seasons one and two were setting up all the characters on the chessboard for the end: Wilhelm is the Crown Prince, although he does not want to be. He and Simon are in love, but Wilhelm’s role drives a wedge between them. Erik’s legacy and August's spot next in line are keeping Wilhelm in his place.

 From episode one, I think the show was telling us about the many things that are wrong with the monarchy, but I don’t think it’s until season three that these discussions become more explicit. Is this why some people were disappointed by the ending? Maybe so. Still, I wanted to look at how season three in particular answers some of the questions or issues  people are bringing up regarding both the monarchy and the Wilhelm’s choice. 

What do you like about the monarchy? 

Season 3 Episode 4 is the first time we hear an explicit discussion about why the monarchy could potentially be a good institution. I’ve seen some people complain that the show didn’t give this idea enough thought. 

I completely disagree with this take: the short conversation Wille and Simon have in this episode  is succinct, but still effective at presenting both arguments in this debate. A  longer and more drawn out conversation would have been a bit unrealistic and probably boring to watch. These are not academics having a debate, but two teenagers who are talking about what for them is emotionally charged.

There’s also no need for a longer, more detailed discussion. Wilhelm does provide a very good answer to the question: The monarchy is there to unite the people. To be a neutral party in situations when the government cannot or will not interfere. 

A quick civics lesson: In parliamentary democracies, the monarch serves as the Head of State. 

This role is predominantly representative, although in many places the government is formed in the name of the monarch. This could, theoretically, grant them some political power-- since they could technically reject the winning party from forming a government. However, in most parliamentary monarchies, the King or Queen simply has to accept whatever decision is made based on election results.

However, the value of the Head of State is precisely in its apolitical nature. Regardless of who’s in power, the head of state is a neutral ambassador of the nation, both in and outside of their country. Their job is diplomatic and representative, and one that is thoroughly divorced from politics. This is what Wilhelm meant when he said that the monarchy was there to ‘unite the people’. Whenever I’ve spoken to pro-monarchy folks about their beliefs, they cite this as the reason why they like it. 

It’s easy to see why Wilhlem would latch on this as his main argument to defend the institution. I don’t think there is anything inherently bad about having a separate head of state that represents the country. I don’t think the major grip with this issue is the having a head of state, but the fact that the head of state is a hereditary position. Simon says this himself twice in this episode: the issue is not that the head of state exists, but that the head of state is not an elected position. Furthemore, the head of state is a role that is imposed on a person not by their talent as a public speaker or negotiator, but by a simple accident of birth. 

The job’s legitimacy or importance should not be above any individual’s right to autonomy and self-determination. Furthermore, considering that taxpayers are the ones who finance this position, shouldn’t they be able to elect who it is? 

Let’s imagine a scenario where a friend tells you they’ve gone into a career because everyone in their family works in that industry, and they simply had no choice in the matter. It wouldn’t even matter if they were good or bad, they had a job in this career guaranteed from birth. 

 Would you not be concerned that maybe your friend is unhappy for a rather unnecessary reason? Would you not think that perhaps someone who actually wanted the job would be better suited for it? Would you think it right for a company to hire someone simply because of their family history? Would you consider any of this fair? And what is so special about monarchy that makes us have a different answer for it than we would if the question was about law or medicine? 

You’ll always be famous. 

Another common criticism I’ve seen is that Wilhelm will inevitably regret his decision, especially once he realizes that public scrutiny will not be going away. This is true, Wilhelm will likely always  be a figure of public interest. But to me, this has always been a negative consequence of the monarchy, and I have a hard time seeing this is a valid reason why he should stay in it. 

From the second we meet him, we know Wilhelm is uncomfortable with both the public attention and the scrutiny placed on him. However, this goes a bit further than that. I’d argue than more than the  scrutiny itself,  Wilhelm is weighed down by having to keep a public image. Because, remember folks, Wilhelm is not merely an awkward teenage boy with acne and a crush. No, no, Wilhelm is the State. Wilhelm is going to be a publicly-funded representative of the nation . This means, of course, that there’s a narrative, as he mentions himsef, that needs to be put forward. One that’s generic, serious, and unproblematic: 

From the get go, Wilhelm is uncomfortable with the inauthentic and performative aspect of his role.This is a constant we see with Wilhelm in seasons one and two: every ‘performance’ he has to do fills him with nausea, anxiety, or some sort of discomfort.

In season three, Wilhelm begins acquiescing to this performance. Uncomfortable as he may be, for most of season 3 he’s accepted that this is his role. However, the attention this season shifts from Wilhelm to Simon, who’s now the one facing public scrutiny. The difference is that, unlike Wille, there’s no role for Simon to play. Nothing about who he is or what he believes is compatible with the public image the monarchy is putting forward. The only thing he can do in this situation is disappear, and Wilhelm is tasked with having to ask that of him. 

I know a lot of people were exasperated at Simon’s very bad and clumsy social media presence. I’m not gonna argue that my boy wasn’t being a bit cringey, because he absolutely was. But I think the larger commentary here has more to do with the expectation that these two teenagers have to censor and edit themselves to comply with a particular PR image. 

Ultimately, the criticism that Wilhelm will always be famous leads us straight back to the institution. Why does an underage boy have the same PR expectations as a politician? Why is a teenager dating his classmate + being cringe online justification for doxxing him? Unfortunately, no abdication is really going to undo any of this, and things are certainly going to be crazy once Wilhelm announces he’s stepping down .

However, this time around both he and Simon will at least have the agency to decide what they want to do with their public image, including the decision to disappear from the public completely if that’s what they want.

Queer representation 

This a sentiment that has been in the fandom for some time now. This was the main argument why some people wanted Wille to stay in the monarchy. Sure, the institution has always been about bloodlines and tradition. But wouldn’t it be so nice to have Wilhelm as a symbol for the queer community? I’ve always found this idea a bit shallow. I’m not sure how much of a symbol of a queer and progressive country Wilhelm could be, when the whole idea is predicated on absolutely no one having a choice in the matter. Is it really impressive to accept the queerness of the guy you already had no choice in accepting?  

There’s three scenes in season 3 where the potential Wilhelm -and by extension Simon-  could have for the queer community come up.  Farima brings it up in the first episode, but the framing here is reversed. Wilhelm isn’t serving the LGBTQ community by being a queer Prince, but the monarchy is using Wilhelm (and his queerness) to appear progressive.

The show, however, does humor this idea with the May 1st photo. We see what Simon and Wilhelm could potentially do for the community by simply existing as who they are: they’re inspirational. It gives Simon, briefly, hope that maybe something good could come out of this. 

But this moment is quite literally framed by politics. It doesn't matter that Simon is not participating in that manifestation, anything that is slightly connected with politics is a challenge to neutrality of the monarchy. This same idea is stated more explicitly int the next episode, when Wilhelm is reviewing the options for his charity.

Ultimately, any action significant enough to be truly impactful, would be bordering the limits of what could be considered political. He's got to stick it out with these quite frankly boring and limited themes, all for the sake of staying on the very narrow lane of things that are not political.

The weight of the crown. 

Stories about Kings and Queens usually carry the same fundamental tension of duty vs self. 

In order to rule, our protagonist has to sacrifice themselves, usually for the sake of their country and people. The Crown is an excellent example of this type of story. Sacrifice in that series is framed as something noble and selfless. 

Young Royals started out with this same fundamental tension, but the main difference is that Young Royals has framed this debate as a question: 

Why should Wilhelm give himself up, his happiness, the love of his life, and  his mental well-being? What’s so important and valuable about this institution that requires this sacrifice?

Wilhelm’s journey is about accepting and voicing his answer. He doesn’t want to be Crown Prince, he doesn’t want to be King. 

But by virtue of taking part of this journey with him, we’re able to examine this question from a different perspective: Is this institution valuable enough to justify all of this? I think the show is inviting all of us to evaluate this situation and arrive at the conclusion that it isn’t.

Even someone like August, who wanted this, is weighed down by the realization of just how much the crown weighs. Of course, a big part of the fandom probably doesn’t live in countries with parliamentary monarchies. Still, considering the worldwide popularity of the British Royals, for example, I still think it’s a worthwhile exercise to question the validity of these institutions. Are they really worth sustaining? And if they’re not, why should we continue to drag them on into the present, citing tradition?

[hidekomoon]

hilarious that some people are angry about the ending because "that means a gay guy can't be king." hello. the point of the show is that we should not Have a king

[weirdgirlvampire]

Wille, essentially:

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moments from young royals where simon looked so pretty the monarchy collapsed (1/-)

[enjoythesilentworld]

she says it herself. Kristina can’t be Wille’s mother and “boss”. in that one sad phone call in e3 she’s already saying “if i can’t handle it how are you meant to”. Wille also can’t be crown prince and Simon’s boyfriend. It’s hurting both of them, trying to put these lives together in a way where they don’t fit.

(what’s the point of all the foreshadowing if there’s no revolution? no abdication or general downfall of the monarchy? the broken crown? if it all stays the same and wille takes over wtf was the point?)

[phneltwrites]

Happier

Written for the music poll challenge. What are 5 sentences really

Wilhelm steps onto the public bus and realises he doesn’t know what to do. It hadn’t really been a conscious decision to get on. Think of Erik’s legacy, Wilhelm and if anyone asks about the hazing at Hillerska say it didn’t happen during your time and Wilhelm waited for his mother to be distracted and then he turned and walked away from the national day celebration. He’s still in the outfit. But he started walking and kept walking and then a bus came and he got on. 

The bus driver stares at him. Wilhelm blinks. Mortification creeping up his collar, he glances at the rest of the riders, who are all staring back. His eyes roam left to right and then freeze, gaze catching on the most beautiful boy in the world. He’s the only one who seems nonplussed, sitting there with a paper book.

Then he gets up.

“You need to pay with the app,” the angel with the curly hair says.

“Okay,” Wilhelm responds, going breathless. Then he fumbles with his phone, unlocks it.

He snorts. “I’ll show you.” He reaches for the phone and their fingers touch. Wilhelm lets him take it, and his fingers curl, reaching for the man’s hand as he pulls it away.

The man fiddles with it, and then taps the phone against the reader. The bus lurches and Wilhelm sways into him.

“I’m—I’m Wilhelm.”

“Simon,” Simon says, eyes sparkling in a way that lets Wilhelm into the joke. Wilhelm follows him back to his seat. There are empty ones on the bus, but Simon obligingly slides over to the window to let Wilhelm in next to him. Wilhelm straightens his embroidered vest as he sits down. “Shouldn’t you be celebrating?”

It’s a fair question. The whole family is out for it, as they are every year.

“I think I could be happier,” Wilhelm says, eyes on Simon, hoping he knows Wilhelm means with him, away from the game of the court, the negotiations. They’re never going to change, but Wilhelm can. He can get on the bus, now. Simon taught him.

“Yeah?” he asks.

“Yeah.” And when Wilhelm stares at him, Simon doesn’t look away.

[raincitygirl76]

This is from March 17, the day before the finale dropped.

since i'm emo right now, i'm choosing to believe this tiny cute boyfriends moment of wille lifting weights with simon tickling him and then helping him place the weights down is a foreshadowing metaphor.

wille has been carrying the burden of the role he was born into his whole life, and then simon came along and poked at his belief system until it had to crumble. he will be there to support him though, when wille finally sets the weight of the crown down.

[wowthatsextra]

One of the funniest things that happened in Young Royals was when Prince Wilhelm announced to the entire palace on speakerphone that he'd abdicate because his crush was doing karaoke with another guy