#moira mactaggert x charles xavier
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velvet4510 · 1 month ago
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It’s actually so significant that Charles is introduced in First Class as a guy who uses his thesis as a pick-up line and seeks out girls with some kind of mutation.
It’s clearly indicating that Charles is trying to find a fellow mutant to connect with romantically. Raven’s off the table, since she’s his sister. But he wants to find and build a romantic bond with someone who has a mutation, who is different like he is, and he’s resigned to searching for things like heterochromia and auburn hair because he doesn’t know for sure if there really are more full mutants out there with actual superpowers.
Literally the only reason he starts flirting with Moira is that she has auburn hair, i.e. a mutation.
Then he meets Erik and all the flirtation with random heterochromia women and with auburn-haired Moira stops. Because Erik is what he’s been looking for.
Charles’ entire setup as a character in that film is constructed in a way that the only resolution that makes any sense is him finally finding a real mutant to connect with romantically. And who does he find? Erik Lehnsherr.
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asyncamestel · 4 months ago
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the beginning of all things
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deakyjoe · 5 months ago
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And yet Moira’s the supposed love interest 🤨
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0livdocx · 7 months ago
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Behold, the most memable frame in Xmfc film:
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bikenesmith · 7 months ago
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you can (not) advance
what was yalls favorite part of ROPOX i loved when jean stabbed enigma with the wolverine claws of longinus
available as a print
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wishchip106 · 1 month ago
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idk who they were trying to fool with that Moira x Charles
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they’ll just both be waiting for the other to put it in 🤨
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personification of this picture honestly
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morticia-707 · 2 months ago
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Moira and Raven are done, Sean is like "Eugh what's that-" while Charles is giving this:
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xaviersjames · 11 months ago
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My favourite thing about him in this film? That little streak of grey in his hair. It's the PRETTIEST thing in the entire world I could cry.
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leilohsstupidgaystuff · 2 months ago
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How did the "What do you know about me?" - "Everything." / "You needed the help last night" scene, got followed by the "Erik! You decided to stay *long eyefucking*" scene and then that got followed by "what an adorable labrat you make *even longer eyefucking*" scene and people tell me, they don't see why people ship Cherik? Tell me three scenes in which you see Moira and Charles acting that way.
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bloodinthegutter · 6 months ago
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X-Men: First Class as Vines
Because it's my favorite X-Men movie
I just saw Deadpoo & Wolverine and felt this was the right time to post this old video I made
Idk why I forgot Darwin's real name, he's literally one of my favorites, I'm so sorry
(This wasn't supposed to be 4 minutes, but I kept adding to it)
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rei-ismyname · 2 months ago
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Loser Husbands panic and slow clap
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Yeah, why IS Proteus here? Mind your business, he can go where he wants. Why are YOU here?
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It's all very touching, especially Proteus crying about his dead mam (who's hiding and scheming, verrrry much alive) and Hellfire opening a free hospital for all. Look at their faces and the insincere clapping - it's kinda wild that they managed to keep the secrets they did at times.
I could read an entire run of them being befuddled and awkward.
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velvet4510 · 2 months ago
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Watching the X-Men: First Class documentary and omg they’re literally saying Charles and Erik were a “tragic romance” and Hank & Raven were intentionally written to parallel them as the “making and breaking of a relationship” and Moira’s bigger role in the earlier script drafts would’ve created more of a “love triangle” and omg this is actually real, the filmmakers actually said it, you guys there is no more room for debate here, it’s all canon.
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gh0stofstarman · 15 days ago
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A Ramble about X-Men
I’m a pretty big Marvel comics fan. I’ve had a Marvel Unlimited Subscription since the pandemic and I’ve pretty much run the gamut of heroes. Avengers, Iron Man, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, Squirrel Girl, Fantastic Four, Peter Parker Spider-Man, Spider-Gwen, Miles Morales Spider-Man, Spider-Girl, Quasar, Thor, Eternals, Hawkeye, Howard the Duck, What if?, Deadpool, I could go on forever. And I can pick a run for each of these characters that I specifically clicked with a certain author and the themes they chose.
Except X-Men.
Which is ironic, because I love the X-Men shows, the characters, their major themes, their designs, their movies. Heck it’s not like I haven’t read most of Claremont’s run and beyond.
But I’ve never had a run that actually fully clicked with me, and I kinda wanted to ramble about why. No idea if this will be a series or whatever.
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Chris Claremont
Admittedly I’ve never really been one to seek out every single spinoff of a series so most of my experience with the “golden age” of X-Men is with the mainline Uncanny X-Men rather than stuff like the New Mutants. I know it’s sacrilege in some circles not to go in full chronological order with the spinoff series bouncing between but I’m just not that way.
Anyways while Jack Kirby and Stan Lee created the blueprint for what would define X-Men on a fundamental level, Chris Claremont would be the author who made the heroes popular. Storm, Colossus, Wolverine, Jean Grey, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Banshee … Sunfire, Thunderbird … okay not all of them stuck. But Claremont would write iconic stories that are beloved and I love as well such as the OG Giant Size X-Men comic, Proteus, Days of Future Past, God Loves, Man Kills, and the Dark Phoenix Saga. Stuff that truly gets to the heart of the X-Men fighting against discrimination and hate, proving they deserve a chance to live as they want.
Then that should settle it! I like Chris Claremont, then! These are the most iconic storylines that means I love the most iconic incarnation of the X-Men.
Not really.
Chris Claremont founded a lot of good ideas that would be the springboard used by other authors in years to come. But it’s not as though his stint was as brief as Lee/Kirby or Roy Thomas.
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16 years.
And most of what I mentioned is spread far across the first 8.
So what about the bits in-between?
Well, if I had to describe the majority of Claremont’s writing as X-Men outside of these storylines is that it’s kinda a roulette wheel.
This was back in the day where you had to have some bonkers concepts to hook the reader in. Vampires, sci-fi tech, aliens, gods, demons, etc. And most of the time Chris chose a random one to analyze the X-Men under and reevaluate how they can be used for the X-Men’s explicit purpose of fighting against discrimination and promoting equality and diversity.
Which often leads to those aforementioned storylines where they build on this very well. X-Men vs Televangelism does go out into creating weird devices to mind control people but it’s all in service to the team’s message. The bad future the sentinels create in Days of Future Past can easily be seen as a dystopian future where discrimination is normalized.
However sometimes Chris can’t help himself and adds more layers of insanity to the plot, to the point the message kinda gets lost in the mix.
Here’s an example.
X-Men go mysteriously missing, only for Beast to find them working at a circus freak show. Interesting. Leads back to the idea of them being demoralized and treated as freaks rather than real people.
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Beast does some snooping around, finding that Magneto is the mastermind behind this. Perhaps he’s trying to humiliate the X-Men and get them to give up their hope for equality seeing how humanity makes fun of them while also getting revenge because he’s the bad guy.
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They fight Magneto but are bested in combat. It’s then revealed that Magneto, after being turned into a baby in a previous comic did want revenge, so he took the X-Men to his Antarctic base to … mentally regress them into babies and torture them with a nanny bot.
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Huh?
And I’d be lying if I said this sort of weird progression isn’t a repeating theme.
X-Men go to space to fight aliens; makes sense because all the other heroes were fighting aliens so they gotta prove they’re on the level. Alien fighting leads into them meeting Xenomorph-like aliens that slowly transform the X-Men into them; drama is created. X-Men escape but still are transforming, so Storm befriends a space whale and then becomes one to cure everyone; buh?!?!
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Like I feel like some of these stories increase the insanity progressively but they go a little step too far. Sometimes it’s just out of nowhere like when demons kidnap the X-Men even though they were never hinted before to care about them, and somehow age up Magik to an adult. Or just Storm becomes a vampire suddenly even though last issue there was nothing even slightly referencing vampires.
It’s kind of a curse because X-Men is constantly trying to get bigger and bigger under Claremont but sometimes you’d prefer it just to take it slow and get back to the more straight forward connections to fighting oppression and discrimination.
Ironically it causes me to appreciate the more mundane moments that aren’t trying to be huge plot twists one on top of each other. Stuff like Kitty Pryde and Storm hanging out, going to Japan and getting to know Wolverine better, Nightcrawler trying to socialize more, and just Beast’s witty banter.
But even that can be a little fumbled at times because well,
Chris Claremont is a straight white guy.
And there’s nothing wrong with that at all. But you can tell he has hang-ups trying to write about race or women because he doesn’t really have those experiences. Therefore, sometimes when he tries to write soliloquies and romances (which is pretty common), sometimes it can fall flat because of his perspective.
There is a lot of romance and relationship drama in X-Men, which is understandable and needed for the narrative. But so much becomes either bland, unintentionally problematic, or just too brief to make any true impact.
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I’d say the biggest exception is Jean/Cyclops because they’ve been established for years and it’s very clear they care about each other. However, Jean dies in Dark Phoenix (at least that was the intent of the time) so a lot of the time the series bounces between other couples.
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He later meets and then marries Madelyne Pryor, who is noted to look nearly identical to Jean. However that just makes things awkward as Madelyne often plays the role of “Not-Jean.” It at least has an interesting through line of him working through his grief, but little time is actually given for Madelyne’s own agency to break out of “Not-Jean,” which makes it really awkward when it’s revealed she’s a clone of Jean and Jean was alive all this time. So … what was the point?
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Charles Xavier has so many love interests but often times he comes off as a jerk. Moira MacTaggart, Liliandra … even at one point Jean herself but everyone buries this for good reason. He comes off as very manipulative both to his partner and the X-Men. Charles is very unsympathetic to Moira’s predicament in raising Proteus. Liliandra he’s willing to bend over backwards for even if it means that he’s breaking his own morals in the process. And we don’t talk about Jean. However this would mostly be used by other authors to analyze how good of a leader Charles is, and more of his flaws. Meanwhile, Chris Claremont normalizes his behavior and rarely calls him out on it.
Colossus and Kitty Pryde.
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What can I say about them? Colossus is an adult, Kitty Pryde is still a kid. It’s gross, but Chris wants you to really know they love each other more than a brother-and-sister relationship would. And they even point out it’s creepy, yet they still do it anyways.
Wolverine is entirely a whole other can of worms that I could write about separately.
Ironically some of the relationships that aren’t confirmed because of the times but are implied like Mystique and Destiny or Storm and Stevie are actually a lot better and written with much more nuance. However again nothing is confirmed and could be left to interpretation such as with Storm and Stevie. After all they do try to pair up these characters in straight couples … problematically but still.
Ultimately I feel like Claremont does have a lot of good ideas but the execution of them is where the ball is dropped. I would never call his run bad but I’ve never really felt compelled to return to it. I can’t deny the impact it’s made by any measure. However, returning to the originals just makes you wonder, how did some of this lead to Claremont’s X-Men being held up as an absolute gold standard comic?
I don’t know this was a long rant and I dunno if I’ll do it again. If you liked this let me know
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liquorwrist · 3 months ago
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Rare marvel character memes
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emmcfrxst · 4 months ago
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X-MEN: FIRST CLASS + funny tweets
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mcudc616 · 4 months ago
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X-Men: Apocolypse || - Empire Magazine.
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