#ml truth spoilers

[is-nino-actually-luka]

I've decided to go back to my roots and reveal the truth about secret identities in Miraculous Ladybug again because I think I might have found some compelling evidence that Ladybug = Gabriel Agreste

[theluckiestlb]

girl...WHEN??? WHERE????

what are you talking about???? when you kept him isolated for 14 years??? when you robbed him of bodily autonomy???? when you exposed him to his mother's corpse to akumatize him, TWICE????

wait, wait—OH you mean when he was terrified for his life, literally begging you to stop after you beat him up. my bad.

no? OH, you mean when you forced him to leave the country and the love of his life.

Huh.

[bklily]

So aside from being a heartbreaking line, is anyone getting the vibe of....

I mean. I don't know if they would have the balls to do that but. It sure as hell is interesting 👀

[starrynightskies12]

Alya being so torn between her principles and her loyalty to Marinette that she chooses to forget about what she saw. Knowing that she would either keep the secret and go against her morals or she would tell the truth and betray Marinette, knowing no matter what it would eat her up inside.

[buggachat]

show!adrien would NEVER call a woman a "bitch". movie!adrien on the other hand....

[gale-gentlepenguin]

Movie!Gabriel saw Adrien as his son.

Show!Gabriel saw Adrien as a keepsake of Emilie.

This isn’t speculation, this is not a headcanon.

It is 100% fact.

The show writers may say otherwise, but that means nothing because it’s not what is conveyed.

[monpetitchattriste]

And at the end of it all Chat understood that she couldn't tell the truth about what really happened. He didn't pressure her to relive the horrors she went through. She doesn't ask him to relieve the horrors he went through

In the end it was just them to comforting each other and knowing that was they both needed in that moment.

You can see at the being when Chat is asking her about Monarch he clenches his fist because is angry this person took everything from him. And he wasn't there to stop it from happening.

But then LB motions for him to join her and he does. And in the moment he understood that there are many things he will probably just never know and that is okay because he trusts Ladybug.

He knows that she sometimes has to keep things from him for his safety and the safety of others.

And that will just have to be okay for them

Because they love and trust each other soooo much.

[eightofpents]

thinking about how Marinette and Gabriel are the same

and how Nathalie is going to be uniquely positioned to be able to see that from within the narrative

i wanna see season 6 Nathalie project Gabriel onto Ladybug. i wanna see her fall in to old habits to both her and Marinette's detriment.

and i wanna see her recognize the worst aspects of Gabriel in Marinette and guide her away from them

[wield-the-mighty-pen]

You know what I think? I think that Aspik should return in season 6, only his egg head should be even larger since Adrien has been growing out his hair

[lady-de-mon-coeur]

Some parallels about keeping secrets.

[meishumoo]

I think about Werepapas where we learn how well-aware Adrien was of the situation and how Gabriel was absent even throughout his early life.

as that kid who 1) couldn't leave the house. 2) absent father, despite being in the same house lol. 3) was born into a home filled with grief from conditions out of my control (and subsequently had that projected onto me). As the child who had to sneak around literal cameras in / out of the house, obvious or not. I understand Adrien's position in life, and outlook. I also know, like what we saw in Revelator, what the truth does to someone. When we're talking about seeing someone in a positive light - or had been told something we were lead to believe, by someone you had initially trusted. Only for the truth to eventually come out, either by guilt - or you had to find it yourself.

I understand his need to be happy and how he easily believed that his Father is a hero despite all of the above. (Yes, season 6 brought in the backstory stuff AFTER the season 5 finale - let me fill the gaps.) Ladybug told him the lie, and he believed it. Because despite the poor treatment, neglect and abuse. He WANTED to believe that all this time his Father was a good person. That, and he trusted Ladybug to inform him of the truth - because that's what good people do. It's the same lie I've been fed, and I will tell you -- The second you find the truth, your entire world crumbles. Because you wanted to believe that everything you went through was for a reason out of their control, and sometimes you'll continue to make excuses for your deadbeat Father being shitty to you even after knowing the entire story. Which brings me to Revelator. I've been seeing content and comments around the web talking about who is "right". Ultimately, no one is right OR wrong. I was a kid that wasn't informed of multiple truths -- truths which while people had no right to keep from me, they knew it would destroy me emotionally. Secrets kept from me for 10+ years, until they decided that one night was the right time to tell me. Yes, it destroyed me, and I did get the closure that I never thought I needed. Alya isn't wrong for being upset at Marinette, that the truth - which she believed Adrien rightfully needed to know - was not told. That Marinette was keeping this from Adrien. Keep in mind, Marinette is also an anxious teen who is trying to keep it together. Bare in mind, that Marinette believes this is ALSO right for Adrien, to keep the truth from him - to let Adrien believe that his Father, despite everything, was the hero in the tale is .. very believable. No one is wrong, they want to do what they believe is right and morality of what is right or wrong - when it comes to harsh truths like these - is difficult to gauge, especially when it comes to magical butterflies that can give you powers when you're in distress. I'll say as the kid who had the truth withheld from him for so long - that it doesn't matter how long, or how short it was held. It will hurt either way and to me- it didn't matter who it came from. The truth still devastated me. But sometimes I think back to what 16-year-old me wanted, the 16-year-old who had nightmares over the truth for months to come. The 16-year-old who was mocked by his siblings after the truth came out. Sometimes, I really wish I had never been told the truth, because I could've lived without the knowledge and nightmares. I could have done without the mockings of the people around me. And, to a degree, I think Adrien might have the same feelings. It's his right to know, but would he want to know?

[is-nino-actually-luka]

don't know if it's been pointed out but in the paris special, when we look at marinette's computer, only luka and nino are online... coincidence? I THINK NOT

Looks like Marinette wasn't the only one messaging themself that night.

[australet789]

Can't believe the London Special is going to be

"Yeah, Marinette had to lie to Adrien about his dad being a terrorist because the kid is still not mentally stable enough to handle the truth and he fucked destroyed the world once again"

[ninadove]

This is how their conversation went, right?

[gale-gentlepenguin]

Why did Felix never tell Adrien about the fact that Gabriel was Monarch?

Why didn’t he tell Adrien about the freaking elevator to his mothers Glass coffin?

Why did he never mention that they were both Sentimonsters?!

Like Felix, your whole plan in emotion was to betray Gabriel ANYWAY. Why would you bother keeping a promise to the jerk.

Better yet, WHY didn’t you go and free the kwami. For a guy hating the enslavement of your kind you sure as s*** seem cool leaving the kwami to suffer.

[thecapturedafrique]

When you’re reading the latest chapter of @coffeebanana’s awesome fic everything i know (brings me back to us) and suddenly realize that Marinette lying about Gabe to Adrien at the end of S5 is just a repeat of the scarf incident in S1: