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I've decided to go back to my roots and reveal the truth about secret identities in Miraculous Ladybug again because I think I might have found some compelling evidence that Ladybug = Gabriel Agreste
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girl...WHEN??? WHERE????
what are you talking about???? when you kept him isolated for 14 years??? when you robbed him of bodily autonomy???? when you exposed him to his mother's corpse to akumatize him, TWICE????
wait, wait—OH you mean when he was terrified for his life, literally begging you to stop after you beat him up. my bad.
no? OH, you mean when you forced him to leave the country and the love of his life.
Huh.
#ml#miraculous ladybug#the math is not mathing#i'm sorry for the salt but this unacceptable I am BIG MAD#adrien agreste#gabriel agreste#ml spoilers#miraculous ladybug spoilers#ml recreation#ml recreation spoilers#nothing says love like a deprivation chamber#AND SHAME ON MARINETTE FOR DECIDING WHETHER ADRIEN SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH OR NOT#STOP!! ROBBING!! HIM!! OF !! DECISIONS!!!#literally a mar stan till I die but smh at the writers#TWO WEEKS OF PANCAKE DON'T ERASE A LIFETIME OF ABUSE#ZAG DO BETTER#'the good father i tried to be' girl you are DELULU
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show!adrien would NEVER call a woman a "bitch". movie!adrien on the other hand....
#ml movie spoilers#ml movie#IM SORRY IM SORRY#IM SORRY I PROMISE I DIDNT HATE IT BUT I HAVE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH#[shows you a picture of show!chat noir and a picture of movie!chat noir side by side]#corporate wants to know which of these two characters would be most likely to say a slur#they are NOT the same picture. there IS an answer
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Movie!Gabriel saw Adrien as his son.
Show!Gabriel saw Adrien as a keepsake of Emilie.
This isn’t speculation, this is not a headcanon.
It is 100% fact.
The show writers may say otherwise, but that means nothing because it’s not what is conveyed.
#miraculous ladybug#ml#ml spoilers#im not being critical#I’m being objective#this isn’t salt#this is the truth#watch the show#watch the movie#and it’s clear what each Gabriel values
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And at the end of it all Chat understood that she couldn't tell the truth about what really happened. He didn't pressure her to relive the horrors she went through. She doesn't ask him to relieve the horrors he went through
In the end it was just them to comforting each other and knowing that was they both needed in that moment.
You can see at the being when Chat is asking her about Monarch he clenches his fist because is angry this person took everything from him. And he wasn't there to stop it from happening.
But then LB motions for him to join her and he does. And in the moment he understood that there are many things he will probably just never know and that is okay because he trusts Ladybug.
He knows that she sometimes has to keep things from him for his safety and the safety of others.
And that will just have to be okay for them
Because they love and trust each other soooo much.
#i think even if the truth comes out for adrien i think he will be anger but i think he will also understand why she did was she did#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#ml spoilers#ml london spoilers#ml london special#miraculous spoilers#miraculous lb
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huge props to marinette for spinning up that lie so fast and on the spot, too. I thought I was good but damn. of course she must have had a general idea of what she was going to say to adrien beforehand going off of gabriel's "make me look good" and her own love telling her that the truth would hurt adrien even more, but that's just a very vague idea. she could not have possibly spun up that entire story of a lie in her head beforehand with all that was going on - dealing with all the truths coming in one after the other, the crying, the emotional trauma, getting the kwamis back -
and of course, there's adrien. he is one of the highest things on her list of priorities, his safety being the first thing she needs to take care of. the problem is, she doesn't know how. the only thing she can do in that situation is lie. a small lie. just one to make it better for now and then she can make it a long-term lie later. make sure no one else finds out.
and once she started telling the lie, once the first words were out of the mouth, it was all improvisation. her next words showed up in her head as she was going, spinning up a believable story, just good enough to be taken as the truth. she rambled - a rookie mistake for liars - but you couldn't blame her. she's a professional liar, almost, with her superhero identity, but this one is different. just one hour after learning the truth she had to cover up all this with no warning beforehand.
she couldn't tell adrien the truth. but she couldn't do much to comfort him either. ladybug couldn't tell him something only marinette knows.
she had to lie. she had to come up with something on the spot. those words would haunt her for the rest of her life - that lie was all she could think about for the next couple of months because she had to make it work. she had to keep the truth and make everything work out. it wasn't a big deal. she just had to tell adrien something, anything that would comfort him! what would comfort him about his father? what would convince him that he was a good guy this whole time? that he was a, a, a hero! yes, she would tell him that. it was a white lie! she wasn't a bad person! she just had to tell adrien that his father was a hero so that he would never have to know the truth and suffer like she did. he was a hero.
was.
once that word came out of her mouth, there was no going back.
#ok coming from someone who is VERY good at lying (and no that's not a lie) I am VERY IMPRESSED by that.#it's not even an exaggeration by the writers. in fact I think this is perfect.#ive had to lie several times before. make sure there were no plot holes in the story I was trying to spin to get out of trouble. to be safe#to save a life.#this is very realistic of her.#when she's under pressure she talks. she lies. some of her smartest moments are made up of lies. it might seem like a good idea at the time#she might not know what's coming out of her mouth as she's saying it.#but regardless she needs to deal with it later. once the adrenaline has finally died down and she faces the consequences of her actions.#once the emotion has died down. once the truth of what she's said sinks in.#I lie on the spot if I have to. my stories stay active for just long enough that eventually it becomes a fact of life and I have to remembe#each detail of the lie so that it doesn't fall apart.#it can't fall apart. the world will end if it falls apart.#(the world is a web of lies that I have spun.)#oh MAN the marinette thoughts today. should I write a fic. yea im writing a fic.#marinette dupain cheng#miraculous ladybug#ml spoilers#ml london special#wait I just realised all these paragraphs I typed up what the heck what am I doing with my time#gotta love lying to people tho.#actually no thats a lie I hate it.#ugh life is so confusing can I pls just project myself onto marinette instead of having to deal with stuff#yk out of all the characters I didn't realise SHE would be one of the ones I resonate with the most. but thats a fact and I love it.
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I had some thoughts on the finale.
#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#adrien agreste#chat noir#ml recreation#ml re-creation#ml spoilers#ml conformation#ml s5 spoilers#ml s5 finale#miraculous ladybug spoilers#katalist speaks#katalist draws#my art#No one really knows JUST how much Adrien resents his dad but him#Because he only really acted out against him as chat noir#adrien having to smile and nod as everyone talks about his hero of a dad?#a few days after he tried to kill his dad himself with a cataclysm?#when HE should have been the one to be by ladybugs side?#meanwhile not knowing the truth???#This next season is gonna HURT man#this was a bad time to post art yall so plz dont let this flop
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Can't believe the London Special is going to be
"Yeah, Marinette had to lie to Adrien about his dad being a terrorist because the kid is still not mentally stable enough to handle the truth and he fucked destroyed the world once again"
#miraculous ladybug#ml spoilers#ml london special#unless it's felix#which again would do it because Adrien couldn't deal with the truth#the reveal can't happen because Adrien needs therapy lmao
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This is how their conversation went, right?
#miraculous ladybug#felix graham de vanily#argos#kagami tsurugi#feligami#mlb spoilers#mlb representation#ml representation#representation spoilers#nina draws#OBSESSED with how Adrien and Marinette WANT to tell each other the truth but can’t#While Felix and Kagami spend their time spilling their souls to each other#It’s how they bond
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When you’re reading the latest chapter of @coffeebanana’s awesome fic everything i know (brings me back to us) and suddenly realize that Marinette lying about Gabe to Adrien at the end of S5 is just a repeat of the scarf incident in S1:
#miraculous ladybug#ml s5 spoilers#marinette dupain-cheng#adrien agreste#adrienette#ml fic#ladrien#<- this tag’s for the fic which y’all should definitely read!#but both times are just mari hiding the truth from adrien to perpetuate the belief that his father cares about him#which really highlights how her perspective on adrien has not changed in any substantial way since origins#aka adrien is still a damsel to be protected rather than a partner to be relied upon#proving further how central a reveal/ladynoir is to produce a healthy love square dynamic!#in this essay i will
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sorry in advance for the person i will become when missing link comes out. btw
#i never know how to tag spoilers esp because it will depend on if ml comes out in like. installments or if the story is playable#all the way through right away#so erm idk how LONG i will be tagging for but i will try to put anything spoilery under the tag “khml spoilers”#usually i do like 2-3 weeks after something ends. depending on like length and if i specifically know#if any of my mutuals still NEED it tagged#and like. again how long the game takes to beat.#it took me like 5 days to beat khdrs story beggining to end (i hadnt played before the final update at all)#but im assuming this will be longer. and as its New itll probably not all be released at once.#so id say ill just tag spoilers for 2-3 weeks after each update but the truth is theres no way#im gonna remember which plot event is which update.#h. so. yeah idk idk ill figure it when it comes out it might not even be terribly soon but i can Dream.
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don't know if it's been pointed out but in the paris special, when we look at marinette's computer, only luka and nino are online... coincidence? I THINK NOT
Looks like Marinette wasn't the only one messaging themself that night.
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If the person in the end of the episode turns out to be Amelie instead of Emilie, can I just say how much more messed up that would make the ending?!?!
Gabriel at the end, talks a big game about how much he regrets his past actions, about how he lost himself. But then after all this, he still makes the wish, a wish that we aren’t made privy to the exact nature of.
Gabriel, practically during the entire show, has spoken of how he misses Emilie, of how he wants her to return. However, the way he behaves right before he makes the wish seems to imply that he wish would be made for Adrien’s benefit.
The show purposely makes it ambiguous as to whether or not Gabriel wished for him to replace Emilie or for him to join Emilie, with Nathalie taking his place.
The very fact that Nathalie does come back would seem to implicate the latter, as her life would have needed to be exchanged for something as well.
If it is Amelie at the pool party and Gabriel did indeed make a wish to join Emilie, that would only prove further just how selfish and negligent of a father he really was. All Gabriel was looking out for was his own interests. He didn’t care if Adrien still had someone around to care for him, he couldn’t even bother to try to fill the role himself.
If Gabriel didn’t bring back Emilie, all the ending showed was that he learned nothing, he’s still an awful and abusive parent, and he received a redemption from Paris that he didn’t actually deserve.
#truth be told i still think that last point is true even if he did bring emilie back#but i think the writers know this and are planning something with it#for the next season#i have underestimated them before and have been proven wrong#so i think well all just have to wait and see#miraculous ladybug#gabriel agreste#gabriel agrestes a+ parenting#emilie agreste#adrien agreste#amelie graham de vanily#ml recreation#ml the last day#ml theory#ml spoilers#ml season 5 spoilers#ml season 5 finale#ml season 5#mlb#miraculous#ml#ml leak free#miraculeakless
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Ml Recreation spoilers
I know there’s a ton of ambiguity and unanswered questions, but I will believe it will all be addressed in the new season. I refuse to jump on the hate right now about people calling the season finale terrible 😭. Yea the show is definitely flawed and the storytelling could use serious improvement, but I never had high expectations in the first place so I’m just happy with what crumbs were given lmao
Bug Noir is 👏🏻
Tikki and Plaggs true form was 👏🏻
Bug noir did not hesitate to whoop his ass for good 👏🏻
Please more adrien/CN in season 6 please please please pleassseeeee
#s6 has to center around adrien and learning the truth about everything that went down#miraculous ladybug#ml recreation spoilers#ml recreation
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Alright I’m gonna say it.
I know people defending the finale of season 5 reason for Adrien not being there have the main defense of “Chat Blanc and Ephemeral” as why story wise Adrien shouldn’t have been involved in the final confrontation.
Not only do I think those are weak arguments, Season 5 has so many different conditions from the other two seasons, including the growth of Marinette and Adrien. Plus with Gabriel dying that’s a whole new variable to be considered. The situational variables don’t line up as a proper explanation. It’s a shoddy reasoning at best.
But the nail in the coffin of the arguments are the fact that Gabriel got the wish.
In both ephemeral and Re-creation he got his wish.
And y’all are telling me that Adrien being involved would have made things worse?
Nah, sorry. I don’t buy it.
(But Adrien could be controlled)
Yes, and it would make it BETTER!
Imagine the final fight, Adrien being forced to fight bug noire.
Oh the angst! The suspense.
So many things for this finale that could have been done. But weren’t.
The only reason I can THINK that has any merit to having Adrien not be involved is for drama later, but it’s not really set up for that and until season 6 is out and shows potential of it��� it’s straight up Copium.
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I started watching mlb like 3 weeks ago and loving it and ladynoir was my fave bit of the square and now you're telling me THIS 😭
why are you shocked!!!!1!1! it was OBVIOUSLY always going to be friendzone ladynoir and romantic adrienette!!!1!1! It was never about falling in love twice or the parallels between the two main sides being in love and the unique romanticism of being in love on both sides of the mask or anything you silly goose the bulk of the fandom that was invested in ladynoir just imagined all the romantic development and imagery for the past 7 years!!!! /s
#this fandom finds some new take to disappoint me with every month#sorry to be the one to break the truth to you anon at least you didn't spend too much time invested in them 😔#answers#ml spoilers#ml fandom salt#ml transmission#transmission spoilers
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