#might get cancelled over this but idgaf this is INFURIATING
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It's probably too early to discuss this but once this is all over - if this is ever over - we WILL have to discuss the gendered aspect of it
And I don't just mean the mass rape etc. and not even the women in leading security roles that everyone doubted when they were appointed but were actually the ones to save everyone's lives under fire
I mean the female observes who for FOUR MONTHS have been telling their male commanders that they were constantly noticing weird things over the border but were just dismissed and ignored for being hysterical?
Yeah, that
#the way i am furious...#SO MANY LIVES COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED IF THESE GIRLS WERE JUST LISTENED TO!!!#but no they and so many others lost their lives thanks to male hubris#might get cancelled over this but idgaf this is INFURIATING#rape //#war //
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You like Tony x chris? <- that's not hate or cancellation, incredibly interesting weirdly horny dynamic if you do would love to hear your thoughts on it and how much ade deserved better
Hi, thanks for the question!
So to answer your first question, do I ship Tony and Chris- well, kinda? I don't really "ship" anything at all to be honest lol. But I guess that I enjoy reading fanfic and making memes about pairings that have interesting, weird, and toxic dynamics- like Chris and Tony. I also think that Tony x Johnny Sac and Tony x Artie have some potential lol.
There are a few things that I like about Tony and Chris: the power dynamic, Tony's mental and physical abuse, Chris' devotion regardless of the abuse and mockery, how Chris desperately wants his approval but Tony doesn't gaf, how Tony forgives him over and over- until he doesn't and kills him with his own two hands lmao....
Tony claims that he views Chris as a son but he clearly doesn't. Look at the difference between how he treats AJ and how he treats Chris. He never wanted the mob life for AJ and basically allows him to be a flop lol.. Meanwhile he spends the whole show essentially grooming Chris to take over. When AJ attempts suicide and almost drowns to death, Tony saves him. When Chris is on the verge of death after the car crash, Tony kills him. So anways, Tony views AJ as his son, an extension of himself, while he views Chris as a pawn. I'm not saying that Tony never loved Chris, maybe he did at the beginning, and you can see that in how he allows Chris to get away with things that anyone else would've immediately been killed over; but that clearly dissipates as the show goes on and Chris continues to fuck up and Tony becomes more self obsessed and paranoid.
I mean Chris gives up his fiancé for Tony (there are other reasons like the infertility obv. but y'know, not relevant ig) which is insane. Also that scene where he cries because Tony makes fun of his big nose ijbol... The more stern Tony x crybaby Chris dynamic is kinda funny to me.
And yeah, you're totally correct about the "weirdly horny" thing lmao!! There are many scenes where Tony scruffs Chris by the collar, shoves him against the wall, and shouts at him in a very intimate manner,,, Like the homoeroticism vibes were insane... So yeah basicallyyy I find Tony x Chris interesting because of how twisted and repugnant it is lol. Unfortunately there's only like 2 fanfics on ao3 which is kinda crazy imo. There's tons of WaltJesse fanfic (incredibly similar dynamic that was obv based on Tony and Chris) meanwhile there's nothing for the pseudo incest shippers🙄.
Moving on to Adriana,,, yeah she totally deserved better. I'm not one of those "Adriana was innocent" people, because obviously she wasn't, but I don't think that she was a bad person or that she deserved anything that happened to her. Her main faults were that she was incredibly naive and dumb unfortunately... She had multiple chances to leave Chris but did not take them, which was infuriating to watch but also realistic I think.
I honestly do not like Chris at all actually. He's one of my least favorite characters because his abuse of Adriana was so grotesque and painful to watch. Like I don't rlly gaf that he was depressed or an addict or abused by Tony lol... there are zero reasons to abuse a woman.
And I suppose you might be asking yourself why Tony x Chris is okay but Chris x Adriana isn't since I did say that I like toxic couples... well, the simple answer is that I don't like to see women being abused, and idgaf about what men do to each other lmao. Especially two terrible people like Tony and Chris.
Anyways I hope that answers your question! I’m not the best writer so sorry if this seemed like word vomit lol.
#the sopranos#ask#rats thoughts#anon ask#my first ask and it's about pseudo incest shipping ijbol#that checks out tbh
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