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MHA Chapter 220 be like

And I’m okay with that

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Thelreads, MHA 220, Replies Part 2

1) “When a completely lunatic tells you that you are socially inept, you know you have hit rock-bottom. Jesus this is exactly like Harlequin telling Deadshot that he was crazy in Suicide Squad, same energy.”- Well, since Toga’s all about impersonating and ‘becoming’ her targets, she’s actually got to have some mean social and acting skills up her sleeve to successfully deflect any suspicions those who personally know her victim might have, until she can slip away. Dabi, meanwhile, sticks out like a sore thumb regardless of where he goes, and thus doesn’t have any need or want for small talk or casual conversations, since he’ll never fit into a ‘normal’ society. 

However, unlike Spinner, this one seems to partially be a choice on Dabi’s behalf, rather than something endemic to his being, like Spinner’s Lizard Mutation making his an outcast amongst others- Dabi could presumably get some top-notch surgery done to fix himself up, or at least look more presentable, but his ghoulish look seems partially to be a deliberate aesthetic he’s cultivating to spite ‘normal’ society, visually setting himself apart from the others around him in a viscerally upsetting way, disregarding what society thinks of how he looks compared to the message of non-conformity and rebellion he seems to want to use the league to spread to the masses.

2) “Oh damn, so that was what this was all about, alright. That guy would help them get ready for their return to the world scenario, but he got arrested, and that guy took some time until he managed to find his next apprentices”- Well, Giganto may be surprisingly stealthy when he wants to be- even more so once you realise he’s been publically revealed as a supporter of AFO to the police and demonstrated how much sheer power he has at his disposal, but it’s still been a month since he drove the police back by obliterating a decent portion of the countryside and somehow he was able to avoid detection completely despite the no-doubt increased surveillance looking for him. It’s been a while for him to shake the police’s search attempts long enough to actually meet shigaraki in a secluded enough area, at least until he starts drawing attention by blowing up this section of countryside in order to test his next ‘master’.

3) “Oh damn, the Doctor? I remember seeing a doctor with AfO a long time ago, back when he first showed his potato face.”- Yeah, Giganto may have unbeatable brawn, but right now Shigaraki needs somebody with a lot more brains and resources than him on his side more than he needs an unstable ballistic missile that’s liable to explode in his face. More so than Giganto, Kurogiri’s goal was also to bring Shigaraki into contact with the most secret and reclusive member of AFO’s inner circle, and probably his right-hand man, given how we saw them together with the doctor treating AFO’s critical condition- not something he’d allow anybody to witness easily, given his own god complex. Giganto might be the hidden weapon, but this guy is the hidden lawyer, who knows exactly where all the necessary documents are buried to supply Shigaraki will all the resources he needs in his current time of crisis.

4) “Well, its not like he will admit that he misses him, but yeah, Shigaraki is kind of alone right there.”-  Kurogiri was literally the only person in a positon of leadership in the league besides Tomura, and despite his subservience to him he was probably looked on as the most reliable and put-together member of the league by the others. If Tomura was faltering here, they’d be turning to him for directions instead, relying on his longer acquaintance with AFO and such to give them advice on how to best proceed. So, in addition to putting Tomura in contact with some necessary resources he needs during the league’s current slump, Kurogiri’s absence forces Tomura to step up more into his leadership role, to be capable of holding the league together on his own merits, rather than the strength of his patrons.

5) “Oh so he was that doctor we saw back then, alright. He’s also extremely reclusive, and he better be, since he was the brain behind the Nomu project.”- Since the Nomu are the biggest and most unexpected thing the League has up their sleeve, with the police ‘still’ being baffled as to how they’re making an producing them even without AFO’s shadowy hand supporting the operations, it makes sense for the Doctor to basically be a non-entity in the Police’s search net for Shigaraki and the Remnants of AFO’s empire, because he’s practically the one running things whilst he waits for Tomura to mature into the role on his own, and if he gets caught, or if the police even suspect his hand in events, than the whole safety net he embodies for Tomura here is in jeopardy.

6) “Oh lord, so Spinner really went through some hard times back then, oh god. It’s really tragic that this guy really wanted to change society, and somehow ended up in the villain’s side. “- What’s more tragic is that he’s not wrong in thinking that the villains stand a better change of enforcing change than the heroes do. The average public is quite happy with the status quo, and overlooks any anomalies or issues that affect the downtrodden because it’s easier for them to get on with their lives than it is to make a fuss about these problems and start improving the standard of life for everybody. Despite how wrong their methods are, the league is catching the eye of the public, and rallying those dissatisfied with the current system under their banner. It makes sense for Spinner to want to do something with all these opportunities they have now to actually start making something worthwhile with the league, whilst they’re still got the focus of the country at large, but the longer they sit around doing nothing, the less likely it becomes for them to successfully capitalise on their fame and start a movement amongst those still wavering on whether to sign up with them or not.

7) “Oh lord Shigaraki, now shit got serious. I just remembered that the league used Stain’s popularity to boost itself, but that won’t work anymore, and you have a person that joined in because they believed, so how are you going to break the news that they were fighting for a lie?”- The good thing about Spinner’s absolute lack of self-confidence in himself is that it also brings a type of rock-solid conviction to his words and intentions. Spinner knows he’s not somebody who can lead the league to greatness, that he’s probably inferior in terms of motivations or skills compared to some of the other, more capable members like Dabi, but the thing about being at Rock-bottom is that you’re got both feet planted firmly on the ground, and if there’s one thing Spinner’s not afraid to do it’s stand up for what he believes in. Spinner easily accepts Dabi’s criticism of his lack of self-worth because he accepts and embraces those flaws in himself, and instead uses these flaws to confront the fellow members with their own failings. 

Spinner can and will call bullshit if the league isn’t sticking to the principles he thinks it was founded on, and in Kurogiri’s absence, his confrontational attitude is exactly the kind of kick in the pants that helps keep Shigaraki focused and motivated on achieving his goals of Societal destruction, even if Spinner plans for it to ultimately be societal reform in the end. Spinner is a good front man for the league, because in addition to his range of skills and support in various fields, he actually understands the struggles and concerns of the average joe, downtrodden under the gears of the hero society that supports the conformists and alienates those who don’t fit in. If nothing else, he’d be an excellent choice for recruiter if he was able to be this passionate when drumming up support for the league all the time, but maybe Spinner’s growing into the role of the ‘glue’ who keeps the league focused and on mission, despite their eccentricities, in these trying times for them.

8) “No, he’s the one with the hand attire- wait a second, did you just bursted out of the ground like a fucking mole man? What the hell man, I know that you had to find them while not being followed, but that seems a tad excessive.”- I honestly can’t tell sometime if Giganto is being overly dramatic or just kinda ditzy. It makes sense to stay hidden, but he probably didn’t need to bury himself under their front lawn for the sake of making a dramatic entrance.

9) “Oh, that thing may be the secret weapon, but he’s not here to fight for you, he’s here to fight AGAINST you. If you’re the successor of AfO, to oppose Midoriya, you’ll need to be the very best, like no one never was.”- Another thing that shigaraki’s being deprived of is the notion that if he wants something hard enough it’ll get handed to him by his master’s supporters. Now that his nannies AFO and Kurogiri are gone, it’s time for the hard-line members of AFO’s club t step in to train this wanabe king. Carrot time’s over, now it’s stick city.

10) “Seriously, how OP is Papa Kirishima?”- CoughMountain pancakecough

11) “Oh boy, Shgaraki thought he would be handled the ultimate power, but no… He’ll need to work for it, and this guy isn’t messing around, he won’t help him until he can show that he’s worthy of succeeding the god of evil.”-  Tomura’s face here is the look one gets when the light at the end of the tunnel turns out to be the headlamp of an onrushing train.

12) “Well, he certainly has some sort of regeneration, since he isn’t a pile of dust on the ground, and, of course, Shigaraki isn’t worthy of becoming the next god of evil, master of the underworld, all that stuff… He’s weak, “- So, when Giganto is screaming ‘oh lord!’ here, he’s not calling out to god almighty, bemoaning the fates of the universe that he’s been saddled with such a weak successor- he’s actually screaming out to his ‘lord’ AFO, bemoaning why he chose to pick such a weakling to succeed his glorious legacy. Just in case you needed another reminder of AFO’s god complex. This probably isn’t even something AFO asked him to do, he really does think of AFO in religious terms because he’s that devoted to old potato head

13) “You know, there’s something so weirdly funny about this panel.”- … probably a bad time to point out that Giganto doesn’t have Hulk Pants. Like, at all. We’re getting the benefit of tasteful scenery censoring and deep shading, but the league are getting a full up-close and personal look at his meat and two veg, which helps drive home how wild, feral and uncontrollable Giganto is that he doesn’t even feel the need to cover himself up, because he’s that far removed from human norms.

14) “Alright, jokes aside, the man himself has finally contacted Shigaraki, oh holy shit this explains the high end Nomu alright.”- Well Shigaraki and co did prove tough enough that they’re not immediately dead after being roughhoused around, so that’s earned them the privilege of chatting with the Doctor for 5 minutes whilst Giganto deals with his existential crisis.

15) “And that’s the end of the chapter, and the beginning of a lot of pain for the league. Don’t worry Shigaraki, it will all be worth it, once your bones heal that is.”- Shigaraki:… Pain’s an old friend

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[thequietmanno1]

Thelreads, MHA 220, Replies Part 1

1) “No the logo is wrong, the word hero shouldn’t be there, haven’t you noticed, we are reading a new manga today, BNHA is out, BNVA is in.”-

Shigaraki: Understood. (breaks sign) Us:… Shigaraki….What? Us: you know we’re gonna have to put that back eventually, right? It’s not like this’ll be My Villian Academia for the rest of the manga.

Shigaraki: (shakes hands free of sleeves)… You were saying? Us: MVA For Life!

2) “Oh what the- Are you serious Horikoshi? You putting a anime transition in your manga? I mean, it looks cool, breaking the 4th wall and all that, but, serious?”-  Horikoshi already put his own spin on Western Superhero comics, now he’s going a level deeper by putting his own spin on the anime based off of his Superhero comics! Comicception!

3) “Oh look at this shit, the pieces of the logo are falling. You really were thinking about the anime when you wrote this chapter, right Horikoshi? Well, this transition better be included when the episode comes out or I’ll be really mad.”- It’s stuff like this that makes the anime interesting- Horikoshi apparently had creative input in setting up some sequences and scenes with the anime team’s direction, but now he’s just writing his manga like it was an anime we were watching to cut out the middle man- and possible give himself more free time to draw up some future plot points and threads.

4) “Oh and it looks like we’ll get a quick recap of what the hell the league was up to, and going by the house it seems like they were going the X-man route and opening a school for gifted youngsters, except they became villains, not heroes.”-I have to assume, going by the fact that these clan rip-offs are both fossils and relatively isolated- thus giving the league a perfect excuse to rob them blind and likely get away with it for a long time before the local police realise somethings up- that this house is probably a family inheritance for the head honcho of this gathering to host his fellow racists and foster their anti-quirk discrimination clause. It means that there’s a lot of old money in the place, but unfortunately, probably little of actual value they can lug out the door- the house would sell for a sweet bunch to the correct interested parties if Shigaraki and the gang could broker a deal, but being wanted criminals tends to get in the way of legitimate businesses.

5) “Is… Is that the Klan? Did the Klan just showed up in BNHA? For real?

I… Holy shit I never imagined that in the future that BNHA takes place in, centuries after quirks have been around, there are still people that are prejudiced against anyone that doesn’t look like them.”- The Klan-rip-offs, but certainly based after them. Granted, it’s not improbable that there’s still prejudice around even after centuries have passed and the abnormalities outnumber the norms, but if there’s one great thing that the quirk generations will have brought about it’s that Discrimination has become both more difficult to do, and also very fucking stupid and short-sighted in practice. Like, there’s so many different types of quirks, not only is it difficult to gather enough relative ‘normals’ together (or those whose quirks barely do anything and thus qualify for basically normal) but it’s hard to find enough specific group types to be prejudiced against unless you’re going for the broadest possible descriptive terms, like people who have animal-trait quirks with varying mutations. These guys were not going to last long anyway, even if they did manage to go far enough to get klan-esque getups, if they actually went far enough to commit crimes agasitn their targets of discrimination, they’d be immediately arrested by some of the several hundreds of freelance heroes in the vicinity- heck I’d bet money that some heroes already have their eyes on them on principle, just waiting for them to give them an excuse to bring the law down on their entire organisation. 

Plus, they’re prejudiced against people with animal-quirks, like Shishida I.E quirks that grant them naturally superior advantages against ‘normal’ humans like these guys seem to be emulating- any victim of their choice could easily hand them their assess on a plate in self-defence. I know they’re supposed to be reprehensible and a sign that they’re still flaws in quirk society that heroes haven’t completely purged, but the sheer logical fallacies that stand in their ways of becoming a halfway effective racist Klan just make them come off as comically inept to me. This gathering is probably their equivalent to a Saturday morning barbeque with their mates where they can relax and be free to vent their thoughts about the current state of society, because that’s the only thing they can reasonably get away with without bringing the heroes down on their heads- and they have to hold it out in the remote part of the woods to even get away with that

6) “Oh my god, it was Spinner the one narrating it, oh lord we’re in for a really heavy arc, if now we’re dealing the goddamn Skull Faced Klan.”-  If twice was the hard-boiled noir narrator, then Spinner is the idealistic but naive youth trapped in circumstances beyond his control and yet aware of the flaws and issues that pushed him to this point- young teen growing into manhood, basically. It also lets us know that there’s a lot more going on underneath his apparent klutziness and poor-decision making thus far, showing that he’s a far deeper thinker than we gave him credit for and perhaps the only one in the league who actually gives a real damn about the message that inspired them all to join and hang out together, and what the goal of the league is beyond just survival in the face of the hero crackdown following AFO’s defeat.

7) “Those two little shits, they are casually going through their stuff like its no big deal. Well, it isn’t, those guys deserve to be robbed, but it is extremely funny nonetheless.”-  I mean, they were going to rob the place and leave the bodies piled up in a corner anyway- can’t leave witnesses alive to inform the heroes of their last known location- so they might as well get started on the robbery whilst they they’re gearing up for the murdering- plus, it’s Compress and Toga, the two most comfortable with making a living with what materials the universe provides them, who get started on finding the valuable stuff, presumably because they’re got a better discerning eye than the others, whereas Tomura just stands back prepared to cover their backs and Spinner isn’t carefree enough to drop his guard in front of one of the embodiments of the system that he hates- sure, heroes aren’t outright racist to Spinner, but his quirk’s appearance does designate him as ‘other’ to a lot of people he makes casual acquaintance with, as evidenced by his little rant to Tomura later, and it’s something that really gets under his skin- heck, maybe he suggested they rob/murder this place because he saw a bunch of targets just ripe for the karmic jackpot.

8) “You guys seriously gonna fight them off with candlesticks? Those guys can turn a building into a pile of dust by high-fiveing it, are you sure you don’t want to rethink your strategy?”- Again, it’s possible that none of these guys have a quirk worth a damn in an actual fight, thus grabbing a nearby blunt/flaming object might actually be more useful to them than their born superpowers, but it’s possible that, as part of their doctrine, they reject all quirks to make themselves as close to normal as possible, thus they don’t think to activate their God-given abilities to fight off the invading murderers with a combined body count in the triple digits. In which case, this is Darwin in action.

9) “You know what, the title was extremely misleading, not because it isn’t a chapter about the league opening a school for villains, but because they were called villains when they are clearly making the heroic acts of taking out the thrash.

C’mon Horikoshi, adding the stuff about robbing them doesn’t change the fact that league is just casually making a good, albeit brutal, action to help society.”- I mean, they’ll still be as brutal and merciless agasitn actual, good-natured heroes as they are with these guys, but the difference is that the league doesn’t have the luxury of doing so against heroes because of their current cash flow problems and general lack of stability in the face of the government-sponsored hero system hunting them down now and responding to all public action they make by swarming the area with multiple highly-trained fighters. The league has skills, but there’s no way they can take on a small army of heroes and win in the end, no matter how powerful they are. These guys had the bad luck of deciding to be trash in a society that doesn’t spare much thought for the garbage men who tidy up the mess, so long as the streets are clean.

10) “Oh yeah, this is clearly fictitious, since no way a group of racists with a big-ass house for their sick bookclub wouldn’t be rich as all hell, I mean, just take a look at real life. No, that completely breaks the suspension of disbelief, not realistic at all, 0/10.”- Yeah, the house is loaded, but everything of value in it has probably been shipped off elsewhere to help pay of the loans and cost up up keeping such a fancy house- the only thing of great momentary value left is probably the building itself, and unless Giran gives Shigaraki access to a ‘fantastic’ middle man, he’s not gonna be selling that anytime some- especially since it’ll probably end up going to one of the owner’s distant relatives in the will,

11) “That’s entirely on you, thos things were made to extract blood, not to stab people, you have your knifes for that.”- Well, given the nature of Toga’s quirk, and the fact the costume was designed with her in mind, it probably is designed to stab people in a frenzied fight to suck their blood super-quick- which it can still do, it’s just gonna have a more messy entry point than before.

12) “But okay, we’re getting the league back, and we’re seeing that Shigaraki is facing the harsh realities of being a leader, mainly that he need to feed and help his man. He’s learning it all, and in the worst way possible, by having to lift the the crown of command with his own hands.:- There’s a reason many aspiring criminals in films and fiction have day-to-day jobs, and it’s not just for the sake of keeping a plausible double-life and potential alibi going- crime might pay, but you’re running a gamble with every one and if you’ve not planned ahead carefully enough, or lack decent intel or where and how to find the good cheddar, you’re going to be running up against the costs of diminishing returns before long.

13) “Wait, seriously? This is where you guys are hiding? Dude, you had a fancy house, completely empty, you just would need to mop the floor. C’mon, its not like the SFK would have any use for it”- True, but I think it’s implied that the league agreed with Dabi to meet back at that abandoned Dumb as their rendezvous point whilst he was out ‘recruiting’ and since they all probably lack cell phones to avoid being tracked down, they’re got no means of communicating with him for long periods unless they stick to the designated meeting spot. Plus, even if the league were well-versed in how to dispose and clean up dead bodies (which I doubt- Kurogiri was probably the only one of them that knew how to handle a bottle of bleach correctly) the fact remains that those racists would have had friends and family who will flag their eventual disappearance to the authorities, eventually leaving to somebody investigating that house where they would have been known to meet up, and that would have brought more complications to the league’s agenda that they don’t need.

14) “And, this is the thing, the league from before doesn’t exist anymore, it ended with the fall of AfO. That league that resources and manpower and all that is a distant dream. This league was born from the ashes of the previous organization, and it is clawing its way up, because Shigaraki needs to learn what is to struggle for what he believes in, otherwise AfO would’ve just given him his credit card before going to face All Might.”- It’s a harsh reality, but it’s an engaging story. Shigaraki, being Midoria’s opposite, was arguably given more support and encouragement by AFO to walk his path as the destined opposition to the Symbol of Peace and the hero society founded under the strength of the unbreakable hero All Might, and while both of them lost their mentors together, the shoe is now on the other foot. Midoira is still able to receive advice and encouragement with his mentor, who is slowly improving at being a teacher and instructor to the new generation (with additional backup mentors if he starts slipping in that regard) whereas Shigaraki not only can’t contact his mentor, he’s also lost almost all financial and emotional support that he was provided with before. 

Add in the fact that he’s still making up his whole creed and overarching villainous goals as he goes, besides a few vague end points he plans to reach eventually, and the fact he’s being actively hunted by heroes, and the authorities all over the country, and Shigaraki really has the odds stacked against him. Even with the addition of Giganto and the doctor on his side- and one of those has an additional catch involved in becoming an ‘asset’ at this point- Shigaraki has a massive slope in front of him to conquer, and no road map on how to do it. He’s got the willpower to achieve it certainly, especially after his little-heart-to-heart with midoria, but it’s the ‘what next’ part of the problem that’s got him stumped right now.

15) “HOLY SHIT, IS THIS WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN? THEY’LL FIND SOME TECHNOLOGICAL CACHE LEFT BEHIND BY AFO AND USE IT TO CREATE A NEW NOMU?”- ‘find a technological cache’- ‘get pummelled by a walking kaiju movie monster and his unseen handler’- same difference really. AFO invested a lot in horrific abominations of science and machine, and he made certain they’d be well guarded so that only the worthy, or the soon-to-be-dead, would gain access to them. Shame really, he could have made a killing as a horror movie director.

16) “Dabi is the one recruiting, and I believe that, besides him being able to deal with anyone that he doesn’t like, the reason he was chosen for this mission was because his vision of the league is the closest to Shigaraki’s one, so, he’s the only one that can be trusted with it.”- Actually, since Shigaraki is still somewhat meandering in regards to what the league should be, it’s actually Spinner than most shares Dabi’s ideals in regards to what the League should become, or at least he’s idealistic enough to  believe that the league has a point to it, rather than being a one-hit wonder that fizzles out after their first big performance, and who’s frustrated that the ‘face’ of the band doesn’t seem to be as motivated about their message as the special guest stars they hosted for one of their debut gigs. @thelreads