#me: Yeah. that doesn't mean anything tho when we are talking abt his own community with thousands of tweets and thousands of likes

[korogie]

Guys I'm losing my mind I can't keep doing it

[llycaons]

in talking abt the novel and show differences I don't really see the writing of jc come up which is funny because he plays a similar role but the differences are significant enough that you kind of need to specify which version you're talking about if you're going to discuss him in detail

in the novel - which I'm at this point hazy on, but FUCK novel jc for real - he's unambiguously, cruelly homophobic to his brother (who was already struggling with internalized biphobia), he treats wwx like shit after wwx is the only one to get punished by myu for something everyone was doing, he personally led a seige that slaughtered dozens of innocent farmers, and wwx's reaction to seeing him again was essentially 'oh fuck he's still mad about all that huh I definitely don't want to get involved in this again or return to LP' like he's the worst in every way I despised him and narratively he no longer holds any ties to wwx to keep wwx from progressing with his relationship with lwj and he acted as a threat to wwx postres in a way that would have been a lot more heartbreaking if the flashbacks weren't so choppy and discontinuous

meanwhile in the show - and this is my own interpretation - I found it fairly easy to interpret him as being supportive of his brother and just having sibling jealousy (plus the yuandao/mianmian line lmao), his repsonse to the wen situation was shit but it ended up with an agreement between him and wwx, and after the wens turned themselves in I don't think he could have done anything (and yeah he should have done more! but he looks genuinely miserable about it all which I doubt was the case in the novel) and wwx still remembers LP fondly and he has such kindness and forgiveness in him for jc at that temple. show jc is a mess and he's a dick and he's a failure but he's not....like...evil. and he saved lwj in the temple! I don't remember if that was in the book tho

the finale of the show is fairly bittersweet but the stronger emphasis on the better parts of their relationship and the more emotional performace that we got for jc made him a lot more engaging and compelling as a character and really does make me think they're bound to reconcile at some point which is also a big difference from the novel, like in the novel they're out of each other's lives and that's definitely for the best. and they're essentialy incompatible in a lot of ways but that doesn't mean they can't build something new...not that I want to give drama jc a pass because he did such awful things too (including actually killing wwx and having a crush on wq and still not helping her) but their relationship and the character felt much more real to me and I became rly invested in it idk. maybe jc will fail to do the work he needs to do and they'll never be able to communicate properly about how they care about each other and they never see each other again but that honest to god makes me so sad...

anyway I really don't think anyone likes novel jc but I completely understand why people went wild for drama jc. even if some of them are out of their minds. I think it was a good choice for a character drama to make one of the principle characters more sympathetic (the censorship probably played a role in this too tho given that they had to change how the wens died). so when I talk about jc I always refer to the show because I do not know that other dude