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How do you think the Deltarune cast will react to the original Shrek movie?

Hey now, they respect the classics!

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The discussion of Pixar and sequels tends to be a heated thing. Here's a list and some stats, showing the stark differences between last decade for the studio and this decade so far...

The 2010s:

7 sequels: TOY STORY 3, CARS 2, MONSTERS UNIVERSITY (prequel), FINDING DORY, CARS 3, INCREDIBLES 2, TOY STORY 4

4 originals: BRAVE, INSIDE OUT, THE GOOD DINOSAUR, COCO

The 2020s, so far:

3 sequels: LIGHTYEAR (spin-off), INSIDE OUT 2, TOY STORY 5

7 originals: ONWARD, SOUL, LUCA, TURNING RED, ELEMENTAL, ELIO, UNTITLED 2026 FILM (presumably original)

We're not even halfway through this decade, and it looks like the amount of original films made at the post-Lasseter Pixar already equals the amount of sequels they let out in the 2010s.

Also keep in mind, Pixar at one point were supposed to make a few non-sequels in the 2010s that got canned for various reasons.

There was an adaptation of William Joyce's THE LEAF MEN AND THE BRAVE, GOOD BUGS from director Chris Wedge, who was allowed to take the picture somewhere else after his work with 20th Century Fox and Blue Sky... So he took it to Pixar... LEAF MEN could've been the studio's first-ever adaptation of pre-existing source material. That was in 2008, and the movie - if it had gotten off the ground there - probably would've been completed around 2012/13. Fox then wanted it back, so Chris took LEAF MEN back and it was greenlit as a Blue Sky movie in 2009. The movie was released as EPIC in 2013. Because Disney would later buy Fox and Blue Sky, shuttering the latter, Disney owns EPIC.

Elsewhere in development was a Henry Selick collaboration called THE SHADOW KING, a stop-motion affair that John Lasseter micromanaged to death and it went over-budget, eventually getting canned by him and a then-new head of Disney's motion picture group in mid-2012. After about 50% of the film was complete, at that. All those sets and props, destroyed.

NEWT, from director Gary Rydstrom, was meant to start a whole line of lower-budget, quirkier Pixar pictures... But we all know what happened to that one. We were also supposed to get an adaptation of Neil Gaiman's THE GRAVEYARD BOOK at one point. Also, there was an edgier picture that was to be directed by Teddy Newton... So that's... What? Five non-sequel films that got canned? If those had all happened, in addition to BRAVE, INSIDE OUT, GOOD DINOSAUR, and COCO? The 2010s would've given us *nine* not-sequel Pixar movies.

We really need a tell-all book on Lasseter's days of being Pixar's CCO. There were all these weird attempts at expanding (a line of smaller movies + possible live-action projects), but then a lot of it flat-lined and we got a ton of sequels. The whole parade of those movies was largely due to the fact that Pixar couldn't make any sequels prior to being owned by The Walt Disney Company. I always love to remind folks that Disney's original contract that Pixar signed mandated NO SEQUELS... but with TOY STORY 2 being the exception, for various circumstances, which Disney head Michael Eisner still wouldn't count as part of their picture deal, much to the chagrin of then-Pixar owner Steve Jobs. It was one of my sources of their ongoing rift in the early 2000s... Then once they were bought in 2006, the sequels all came flowing out, like someone had taken a wrecking ball to a dam.

Pete Docter, current CCO, isn't like Lasseter. He hasn't canned a ton of projects nor battled with directors til they left their projects. ELIO is probably the toughest production that's happened under his watch, but that's still being made by its original director. All it got was a nice long delay so they could figure out its perceived story issues.

So there are five years left to go. TOY STORY 5 is the only other sequel on the horizon, the rest will probably be originals with maybe one other sequel at the very least. That's pretty cool. Maybe a book adaptation, too. I still like the idea of Pixar making smaller, weirder movies too - hope they can resurrect that idea under Docter, because in this climate? Expecting $200m-costing ELEMENTAL and ELIO to pull massive box office numbers out of a hat just like that? Nah.

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What’s Out This Week? 8/7

Where did Summer go? How is it already August?! WHY ARE THERE SO MANY AMAZING NEW TITLES OUT THIS WEEK AAAAAHHHHH

Absolute Carnage #1 (of 5) - Donny Cates and Ryan Stegman

After turning Venom's world upside down a year ago, DONNY CATES and RYAN STEGMAN are about to put the Sinister Symbiote through hell again, only this time CARNAGE has come calling, and everyone who's ever worn a symbiote is dead in his sights! He's skirted the periphery of the Marvel Universe for months, but Cletus Kasady at last stands poised to make his grand return to New York in a blistering 60-PAGE story... and he wants to paint the town red!

Death-Defying Devil #1 - Gail Simone and Walter Geovani

The Winslow House is in shambles, but people call it home. It is a place for people who have almost nothing but are trying to make a life for themselves. It is also in a bad neighborhood, and no one will stop criminals from tormenting the residents...until The Death-Defying Devil shows up! But when the Devil tries to step in and protect the innocent, things take a turn for the worse and he finds himself trapped inside the house, being taken care of by the same people he was trying to save. Gail Simone (Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman) and Walter Geovani (Red Sonja, Clean Room) present the story of The Death-Defying Devil and a group of neighbors who will do what it takes to keep their home, and each other, safe!

Future Foundation #1 - Jeremy Whitley and Will Robson

When the Richards family is called back to Earth to be the Fantastic Four again, they left behind the Future Foundation - a think tank of the most brilliant young minds in the universe - with one mission: to find the pieces of and rebuild their friend Molecule Man. But that's proved harder than imagined as this crew of young geniuses, Atlanteans, Mutants, Moloids and androids have run into every problem in the Multiverse. Now, with the leadership of Alex and Julie Power and a little extra firepower from guest professor Yondu Udonta, the team will undergo their most dangerous mission yet - a PRISON BREAK!

The Dark Age #1 -  Don Handfield and Leonardo Rodrigues

In the near future, all metal on earth suddenly turns to worthless piles of rust and dust. With no technology, no guns, no computers, humanity reverts to a violent feudal system. Each pocket of civilization is ruled by knights of wood & glass & concrete. This is the new Dark Age.

Archie Married Life: Ten Years Later #1 -  Michael Uslan and Dan Parent

10 years later, a landmark moment in Archie Comics history is being revisited! ARCHIE: THE MARRIED LIFE 10th ANNIVERSARY, is a sequel to the headline-making 2009 'Archie Wedding' storyline. The original storyline written by Michael Uslan answered Riverdale's longest-running question: will Archie marry Betty or Veronica? Fans were treated to two alternate worlds that explored each possibility and Uslan's sequel picks up both stories ten years later. See how much life has changed for Archie, his family, and the rest of Riverdale in this new and exciting mini-series.

Dead End Kids #1 - Frank Gogol

It's 1999. Ben, Murphy, Tank, and Amanda are four screwed-up kids from broken homes... but they have had each other. When Ben is murdered, Murphy and his friends set out to find who killed him and find themselves in the cross-hairs! Dead End Kids is a dark coming-of-age murder mystery set in the '90s, from the creative team behind 2018's critically acclaimed Grief.

Coffin Bound #1 - Dan Watters and DANI

Cars! Guns! Entropy! Chased by an unstoppable killer, Izzy Tyburn has decided that if the world won't have her in it, it can have nothing of her at all. She's re-treading her life, leaving nothing but burned rubber, ash, and the sun-scorched bones of those who get in her way. Join writer DAN WATTERS (Sandman Universe: Lucifer, LIMBO), artist DANI (2000AD, Girl with No Name), and colorist BRAD SIMPSON (JESUSFREAK, MCMLXXV) on a road trip through a blood-splattered life.

Agents Of Atlas #1 - Greg Pak, Jeff Parker, Carlo Pagulayan, and Nico Leon

By popular demand, ATLAS debut in their own series as AMADEUS CHO, SILK, SHANG-CHI, WAVE, JIMMY WOO and all your favorites defend the cross-Asian portal city of Pan against the science-magic threat of one of Marvel's classic villains! Classic science-magic super hero fun combined with young and old heroes from multiple lands clashing with one another, fighting monsters and maybe saving the world along the way! And who is ISAAC IKEDA, the Protector of Pan? PLUS: Where are the original AGENTS OF ATLAS? Namora, M-11, Gorilla Man and Marvel Boy in an all-new top-secret mission!

Berserker Unbound #1 (of 4) - Jeff Lemire and Mike Deodato

A merciless sword and sorcery warrior finds himself blasted through a wormhole to a modern-day metropolis where he must protect those around him from an evil wizard determined to send him to hell. From the Eisner Award-winning team of Jeff Lemire, Mike Deodato Jr., and Frank Martin comes this urban warrior fantasy series!

Whatcha scooping up this week, Fantomites?

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