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do you have any serquel s5 theories im desperate đ„ș
Hey anon,
I do have a few ideas for Part 5. This might be a long postâŠif youâre not interested in reading it, skip along.
[spoilers ahead]
Firstly thereâs the âNairobi baby thingâ - I believe the whole dishonesty of it might drive a wedge between them. We will definitely get a confrontation about it. And there will be a discussion of whether or not they want kids.
Also, you have to remember that this a traumatized woman⊠Her ex-husband was an amazing guy at first too. Then he began to raise his voice to her, then his handâŠ
And Alicia has already planted the little seed of doubt and distrust when she asked Raquel if there had ever been a moment where Sergio had somehow mistreated her and Raquel remembered when he said those awful things to her.
We know Sergio would never hurt her like, and deep down, she knows it too.
But she has a right to distrust⊠with everything thatâs happened to her.
And allied with this recent dishonesty about a very serious subject like a baby⊠Itâll be explosive.
After all, this woman gave up everything she worked for.Â
Her career, gone. Her friends, gone. Her sister, gone. Her freedom, gone. Her home, gone. She can never go back.
For the love of this man, she risked everything. And then he shouts and tells her he beat her at the game, then she finds out he was going to have a baby with someone else without telling her⊠All these things add up and confuse her.
Sheâs made herself completely vulnerable to him. And now, with the arguments and distrust and the lie, she might start to reconsidering her choice. àČ„_àČ„
Raquel has put herself in his hands, completely under his control.
If he turned out to be anything like her abusive bastard of an ex⊠he would now have full control over the location and safety of Raquelâs mother and daughter. Sheâd be his prisoner. And she put herself thereâŠ
In our Marquillo hearts, itâs sweet that Sergio takes care of his new family, but for a victim of domestic violence, this kind of thoughts inevitably pop upâŠ
She loves Sergio, but her heart will never fully mend from the abuse she suffered⊠The fear of being betrayed, fooled, hurt, deceived again⊠is always there in the back of her mind.
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Then, thereâs Alicia - I think Alicia will team up with the gang but only temporarily. Sheâll eventually double cross them and want to get back into the Policeâs good graces by turning the gang in.
Also, I think sheâs going to give birth next season, but she wonât want the baby.
She clearly doesnât care about it⊠sheâs very far along and keeps smoking and keeps being a complete workaholic (a very difficult and pressuring job)âŠ
She hasnât even bothered to find out the babyâs gender - now, thatâs not exactly an indicative clue of not caring in most cases. Plenty of parents choose to not know until birth or simply let their child be and let them figure it out for themselves⊠but that is not the case here.Â
Alicia simply doesnât care! Sheâs not mother material.
She was going to be raising the baby with her husband (or, much more likely, letting the dad raise the kid on his own while she dives back head first into work and completely ignores the her own child). Hell, she probably only agreed to get pregnant and have a baby for her husband, to appease him in some way.
But then⊠Then, her husband died suddenly when she was already pregnant - and at a stage where you absolutely cannot have an abortion. Whatâs she supposed to do now? She canât raise the kid on her own⊠So, for the remainder of the pregnancy, she just pretends everything is fine and ignores the very impending birth and child. But, when the time comes, and thereâs a very real human newborn baby on her arms, peeing and pooping itself and crying constantly⊠Sheâs going to break.
My point is, sheâs going to leave the baby⊠and Sergio and Raquel are going to keep it.
It certainly would tie nicely with the baby argument and the eventual discussion of whether or not they want kids. Even if they donât have biological kids of their own (which I still want btw), theyâll have this baby.
#la casa de papel#lcdp spoilers#marquillo#sergio marquina#raquel murillo#marquillosourceask#lcdp theory#alicia sierra#Anonymous#// told ya it was going to be a long answer.... *shrug*
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I think that the whole cast of LCDP is really really nice and modest, they did not become pretentious even if they are now really famous. Thatâs why I love them so much, they are so kind !!
Hey anon,Â
Yep! Theyâre incredible!!! đ„°đ„°đ„°
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Why do you like more Raquel or Sergio? đ
*gasps* how dare you???
In all seriousness, I love both of them so much - both as a couple and as individual people. But, gun to my head, if I absolutely had to chose... Raquel.Â
Sheâs such a fierce woman, a wounded warrior who never stops fighting for whatâs right despite being hurt and betrayed all the motherf*cking time. Such an excellent, well-written character - one of my favorites of all time. I really feel like I know her, you know? Like sheâs a part of me... â„
           Iâm sorry, Sergio. I love you, too.
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When do you think is the time Professor starts to fall in love with Raquel? Is it when she's telling him her story?
Hey anon,Â
I believe that the scene in 1x04, wherein she confides in him and tells him the story of how sheâs a survivor of domestic violence is the first time Sergio sees her as a real human being.Â
A real person with a tragic past and very real emotions...
Before that, he only knew the shell of the person. He had known her name, her overall information, heâd seen her picture... but, to him, she was just another name on the wall where he formed his plan.
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That moment was it for both of them, in my opinion.
On Sergioâs part, because it was the first time he actually saw her and she touched that soft heart of his.
And, on Raquelâs part, because here was this man sheâd just met, who had not only made her laugh in the middle of all the chaos she was living; but who had also openly listened to her when she needed to let it out, and had been sympathetic toward her and her feelings. He touched her heart, too.Â
And then, he offers to help her in anyway he can. â„ Iâm pretty sure he didnât even notice the words were coming out of his mouth... he just said it. âMr. Always-In-Controlâ lost it all in one conversation with his future wifey ^^
When Raquel reaches out and touches his hand, you can actually see his whole expression go... âoh shitâ. And that was that.
Thatâs when it all began. â„
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Hii..Its more of a off screen question .. i have a feeling that itziar Alvaro doesn't get along that much..Though I love both of them..But he never posts anything related to lisboa ..He always posts about berlin , give interview with tokyo.. i don't know I somehow feel that..Do you feel the same ? Will it affect serquel on screen ?
Hey anon,Â
Okay⊠this might be a long answer.
I honestly donât understand why people are always saying that they donât get along. What, just because they donât constantly post on social media raving about how wonderful the other is??
They talk about their characters, about their experience making the show.Â
Like theyâre supposed to!Â
Of course Ălvaro posts about Berlin too - he was a huge part of El Profesorâs life. And of course he does more interviews with Ărsula because - like it or not, she plays the main character. Tokyo and El Profesor will always be center stage.
And whenever Ălvaro and Itziar are together or theyâre asked something about the other, theyâre always really affectionate and only say great things.
(( I swear some fans are so desperate for Alvitz to happen, they look for things that arenât there. And if Ălvaro and Itziar arenât all lovey dovey with each other all the time⊠then, they automatically donât get along or hate each other???? Get a hold of yourselves. ))
NevermindâŠthey totally hate each other. Look at this!!! Â
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And this!!Â
Yeah... totally hate each other!!!
(pls excuse the rant)
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Sorry, but I have to say that he doesn't care about alvaro itziar as before. When was the last time you saw her like and commented on her post? (except for a photo taken together a year ago )See ursula's post,comments and likes underneath their photos so I don't think alvaro cares about itzi anymore, you can see it everywhere they didn't even meet at the LCDP gala? so what do you really think about this topic?
Hey anon,
I thought long and hard whether I should answer this or not. But I have a private policy of answering every ask Iâm sent. But this is the last time Iâm approaching this subject. I will not be talking about it again.
So, for the last time...Â
I donât believe that Ălvaro and Itziar hate each other.Â
From everything Iâve seen, I think they really like and respect each other. Nothing thatâs happened makes me think otherwise.
They donât need to be all over each other in public or even next to each other, for that matter. They also donât need to be all over each otherâs social media.Â
(( For one, I remember when Ălvaro was asked in an interview - not long ago - about how Itziar was doing with the Covid-19 infection, he said that heâd been talking to her and checking in on her. â„ p.s. - I saw the interview in a IG story and I canât find it anymore; so donât even bother asking... ))
Besides, as another fan explained, itâs very possible that they stopped commenting on each otherâs posts and talking about each other as much in public because some ridiculous fans are so desperate for Alvitz to happen somehow (even though they are both in committed relationships) and canât discern fact from fiction.
Also, guess what? I barely comment any of my best friendâs posts on social media and she rarely comments any of mine... And weâre as close as can be (sheâs like my sister). It doesnât mean anything.Â
(( and even if, for some stupid reason, they did hate each other... itâs none of our f*cking business ))
End of story.
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#la casa de papel#lcdp#marquillo sergio marquina#raquel murillo#lcdp cast#ålvaro morte#itziar ituño#marquillosourceask#enough of this subject#or istg.......#Anonymous
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What do you think about the everyone dies but Tokyo theory. people are referring to the flashback scene saying Denver, Helsinki and the professor are also there hence they will dieđ„ș
Hey anon,
Personally, I don't think that makes sense...
The flashback scene was just a flashback. Period. It only served to introduce Julia/Manila.
Nairobi's "limbo" scene was something else altogether. In my opinion, it was her version of limbo, or maybe even paradise. She's confessed before that the gang has been the closest thing she's had to family.
I think that scene was her wish/hope that she would see the fallen members of the gang again when she died herself, allied to her great wish of having another baby. It was her own sort of happy ending... đđą and it appeared as a very similar version of the flashback scene because it was a happy memory of her with her gang family during their time in Toledo.
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Heyyyy - what do you think about Palermo? A lot of people hate him but I personally love him.
Hey anon,Â
Gaaaah
Most of the time, I f*cking love him (and Rodrigo, who is an acting BEAST)!!
Then there are those moments when heâs such an ass...and I just caaanât with him! (you know, like when he showed GandĂa how to free himself and we all saw what happened with that.........đ€Źđ€Źđ€Źđ€Ź)
But ultimately I love his stupid ass! đ I love him as a character and as the stoopid boi he is occasionally. *shrug* (even if he pisses me OFF!)
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Sergio and Raquel arenât even married, but Sergio calls her âmy wifeâ all the timeđ„șđ„șđ Such a sweetheart â€ïž
Hey anon,Â
Theyâre so freaking cuuuute! â„
He hasnât even properly proposed to her and he already calls her âhis wifeâ...
Also, something I found really interesting was that when talking about Raquel in a personal setting (i.e. when he thought she was dead), she was âhis wifeâ - and that was beyond beautifulâ„; but when talking about Raquel in a professional setting (i.e. rescuing her/heist), she was simply âLisboaâ. Even deeply in love and desperate for a good outcome, Sergio still tried to separate his personal life from the heist.Â
#la casa de papel#lcdp spoilers#marquillo#sergio marquina#raquel murillo#marquillosourceask#p4#Anonymous
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You remember that scene where Sergio began to cry next to the flowers? He thought about Berlinâs wedding. And then he thought about the fact that he never proposed Raquel to be his wife and that he will never get that change again. He blamed himself so hard...
I knoooooooow !!!!!  đ
He just wants to marry his wifey and be happy with her, but then she was taken from him⊠because of him - because he brought her into this, because he wasnât on time to save herâŠâŠâŠÂ  đđđ
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So some thoughts about S5: 1)Raquel is already pregnant from Palawan or Italy and or she already knows- or she finds out in the heist - but hides it from professor by the end of the heist. Weâve seen her smoke in s1-2 but not at all in s3-4! (Itâs just a detail that made me wonder) 2) Weâve seen 2 wedding spoilers in s3-4 (the flowers from berlins wedding and Raquel talking about it) 3) Everything is gonna go great itâs the only ship left in the series, every other couple is cold each otherâ€ïž
Hey anon,Â
I do still think that Raquel is pregnant, but I donât think she knew until the heist began or shortly before that. And she did smoke in the party with the rest of the ladies at the monastery.
And I do think weâll definitely get a Marquillo wedding. Theyâre dropping a few too many hints. â„
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Sierra: Have you ever been the protagonist with him? Lisboa: Yeah, always in bed
AH! Damn right!!!! â„Â lmao
No joke though: have you guys ever noticed that Raquel is always...always on top???Â
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We need a scene where Sergio and Raquel are sleeping in each otherâs arms!!
Hey anon,Â
AGREED!!!!  âĄ(âáââż)
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Sooo, in S1, Sergio said to Raquel: âwhen this all will end, letâs go away from here.â And she agreed. Sooo, he was planning to lie to Raquel her whole life that he is Salva, he makes apple cider etc. That would be so bad...
Hey anon,Â
Yeah, it wouldnât have been great.Â
But it was the only way Sergio could see to have both of the things he wanted: for the heist to go successfully and to have a future with Raquel. He knew if she ever knew he was Sergio Marquina (aka El Profesor), he was done for and so was their relationship.
He loves her so much, he was willing to spend the rest of his life as Salvador MartĂn. He would happily spend the rest of his life as a lie (probably without seeing his brother - his only family - ever again), including living with her young daughter and sick mother.
All as long as he could be with Raquel â„
And, even after Raquel discovered everything, he could have changed his post-heist safe location. But no. Sergio stayed put in Palawan for a full year, in the exact same coordinates heâd given to her before it all went to hell, hoping she would come to him and trusting her to not turn him in.
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Sergio is so weird sometime. So he tells her he loves her three times when she slaps him, then 0 times in two years in Palawan, and then start to call him his wifeđ
Hey anon,Â
I know, riiight đ
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Hello, do u think that in deep, in private life Alicia and Raquel really like each other and that Alicia cares about Raquel?
Hey anon,Â
I do think that she ultimately cares about Raquel. But, like Najwaâs other character Zulema, she views love as a weakness and she doesnât want to be weak. She canât afford to be weak...
So I do believe she cares, yes. She just pretends she doesnât.
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