#mariya ise ships killugon
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itâs been almost a year now but this post still lives in my head rent free
i remember when the vid first came out and the dudebros kept saying âshe meant it as brotherly loveđ€Šââïž killugon fans need to leave her alone smh .đŽâ
but we all eventually became aware of what âaishiteruâ meant and that Mariya DID in fact mean it romantically. so then the dudebros changed their narrative to âwell sheâs just a voice actor it doesnât mean anythingđâ
like⊠what? OF COURSE IT MEANS SOMETHING.
the âmeeting you, Iâm the fortunate oneâ scene, the âyou are lightâ scene, âI want to stay by your side alwaysâ , âhe is my most precious friendâ , âshinjĆ«â , and literally any scene involving jealousy of Palm, Mariya voiced those lines with the intentions of romantic love behind them. those scenes ARE romance. thatâs how she interprets Killuaâs love for Gon, and she delivered as so.
so everyone, have whatever opinion you want on 1999 anime Killua and manga Killua (though theyâre just as gayâŠ), but the adaptation of your favorite dudebrođ„ goatedđ badassđ coldđ„¶ assassinđ homieđž character from the 2011 anime is queer and deeply IN love with his best friend. so stop projecting your heterosexuality onto him.
thatâs all. iâm going back to bed now.
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Mariya Ise, Killuaâs seiyuu in the 2011 anime, answering a question at her panel at Otakon about whether Killua is in love with Gon. đ„°
I didnât take this video (I sadly wasnât at Otakon), but it seems like the original person who posted it to Twitter took it down. Iâm so glad I downloaded it while I had the chance!
#i love the little gay people in my phone#killugon propaganda#killugon#mariya ise ships killugon#sheâs been a fan of hxh literally since 1998 when it came out#iâm taking her word over some 14 year old reddit user who only speaks english#this post is very dear to me i found it before i even had a tumblr account and it helped erased any little doubt i had#thank you
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estuve buscando en twitter y acå en tumblr, y me di cuenta que nunca me he referido a los chicos como "killugon" porque me carrrrga el nombre, sé que las gringas en el 2020 fueron las que lo popularizaron como el "nombre oficial" del ship y lo odio. Odio que empiece por "Killu" jaja suena a calugon en español en serio lo odio, y se te refieres a ellos como gonkillu te acusan hasta de---- cuando también es un nombre oficial?? y hasta mås que el otro... Incluso Mariya Ise lo usa, en fin odio a las gringas-
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something @pacificpikachu said got me on a train of thought that led to this, but i wanted to sort of sketch this idea out: mariya iseâs confident and casual, immediate confirmation that killua is in love with gon is surprising in one way, but in another, to me, itâs not surprising at all.
hunter x hunter has always been very different from other shonen with queer stuff.
think about how niuya was posting her killugon ship art on twitter openly during production and faced no consequences. the staff has always been open about âshippingâ them. itâs no a coincidence. thereâs literally a drama cd from 1999 of leopika called moody restaurant thatâs literally just leorio and kurapika fucking while roleplaying as a waiter and customer at a restaurant. thatâs real.
thereâs a huge difference in staff/official attitude toward all of it from something like........ sorry im just trying to think of a random example here not trying to shit on anyone. idk narusasu or something like that. you know? itâs really openly noooot the same thing
and another thing iseven aside from the fact thatâs always had lgbt characters in his work, togashi has been open about being a fudanshi since the early 90s, people just didnât talk about it then. he first cited patalliro as an influence in an authorâs note about yyh. heâs cited mineo maya. mineo maya was one of the only male BL authors from the first wave of shoujo BL back in the 1970s. like togashi, he is now happily married and has a biological daughter, but he frequently expresses himself through drag and takes photos, and is open about how much he enjoys exploring gay love and gender nonconformity through fiction. he doesnât identify as gay, but he sure as fuck isnât cishet!!
like togashi has always been open about the impression mayaâs work made on him and it confuses and shocks western fans because of the cultural difference. western fans approach hxh from a very post-2010s queer rep perspective. but togashi has never included queer characters out of the western conception of representation. he has always included them because he likes writing queer characters and he wants to. thatâs it.
and once you realize that, you also realize how a character like hisoka and killua can coexist. if you think that the only reason a writer would include a queer character would be to perform A Social Good, it makes no sense that you can have a character like hisoka, who some fans see as reinforcing negative stereotypes, and this hugely empowering and affirming character like killua at the same time. the answer is simply that togashi wasnât thinking about only creating positive queer characters when he wrote hisoka, because he wasnât doing it as a social good or as a chore. he is influenced by old BL and he writes queer men into his work because he likes writing them. thatâs it.
god. big fucking rambling post. i guess my point is that hxh has always been an openly queer series and it just doesnât go about it the same way we expect openly queer series to do today.
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mariya ise really just. yeah. ive been shipping killugon abd convinced killugon is canon while constantly wondering in the back of my mind if im being baited for. get this. 9 straight years of my life. and the way i get closure is a 1 minute video from otakon 2022. the first time mariya ise is ever asked, and she UNEQUIVOCALLY answers yes. what a way to get closure. what the fuck.
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