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danrat · 3 months ago

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it’s been said before (eg prev post) that mark and rat are foils of each other, and of course i’m a man possessed so i wish this had been more drawn out in the show but i understand why considering all that w/rat’s va (and he had a pretty wrapped up narrative much as it pains me). anyway point of this being mark’s decisions center solely around dan to the point of his own self-destruction (something dan never wills; and dan makes a point of calling mark an idiot in s2 for publishing the podcast) AT DAN’S expense.

so you have rat, who changes dan’s entire anatomy in order to Make Him Weird (because dan is Like rat, and others who Belong in the city…by rat’s standards/beliefs) but sees him as even more of a fully realized person because of this. like rat doesn’t even truly dehumanize dan re: the leviathan, he clearly sees it as a job that dan has been given. against his will, yes, but he’ll get there. rat has made so many changes to himself, and, if we’re to follow marc’s depiction of rat (that he just looks like a guy, and that he, lmao, also looks like his va) then his “monstrousness” isn’t due to some physical change (disability, deformity, etc) but just a vibe. which i love thematically but isn’t really the point so much of this post!

and mark on the other hand wants to change dan back at all costs. he LITERALLY destroys himself and makes the active decision to let go of his humanity (how he defines it) in becoming dromen. all with this singular belief that he alone can and will save dan (despite never knowing that dan even wishes to be saved).

mark’s devotion is fully about returning dan to what he was. he can’t imagine a world in which dan does Belong in the city, even as he tears himself apart to even effect.

rat’s devotion is making dan something new.

it’s LITERALLY about complete devotion to dan powell.

and to me what drives me insane is how dromen does “save” dan; but in doing so, puts him in a literal void. so dan has to fucking. save himself. dan is now in charge of his fate and destiny except oops fuck you. someone else gets to make the call (nicholas) and you better play nice because you just told his sister to go to the place YOU’RE escaping and nicholas is gay so you know that bitch is petty.

so in the end dan’s autonomy is snapped again; and his fate is left undetermined. dromen cut out the primary tape deck, yes, but that’s not all dan was. maybe they want me to believe dan can go back to his life, but he can’t. like how alexa couldn’t forget about melody, and had to join her. how the narrator never forgets thomas. and every other example of how the city completely alters people, whether that’s emotional or physical.

anyway. i understand not wanting to revisit dan powell’s story in the sense that like, dan does so much already and the voice work isn’t easy. but you know how they joked about doing a day in mark’s life in the patreon q&a? (hit me up if you want it, or back the patreon!) i want that for post s3 dan. he lost his girlfriend. his best friend. like what does he do now? would he risk going to clara? nicholas is a pretty bad bet. anyway. girl, help.

#archive 81 #marc sollinger when i find you #dan powell #as much danrat as it is markdan

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anissapierce · 5 years ago

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Archive 81 spoilers

is it suprising tht my favorite guy(ish!) character in my archive 81 relisten is mark (as well as dromen...fuck i wish i wish i could spoiler tag on tumblr like i can on tvtropes and discord) b/c like... theres so many unanswered questions??? hes just .... so fucking gay for dan? like hes such a fucking nerd

“Do you want to hear about the Patriots? I don’t! DAN: Go sports! MARK: Exactly. Go sports.”

also this exchange.... marc probably meant for it come across as nerdboy angry at best friends gf misogyny but....it just reads as misogynistic gay jealousy

“MARK: I mean, are you still interested in this being a thing? Are you getting bored with yet another unconventionally attractive, slightly controlling, brunette of Eastern European descent? DAN: Dude. MARK: Sorry, it’s just, you’ve got a type. Because I’m fine with whatever. It’s just, Tanya contacted me, and she hates me. She thinks I’m the worst. For some reason. But yeah, she thinks you’re going stir-crazy.“

like.... ‘im fine with whatever....’ are u mark ???

MARK: Hey Dan, what’s up? Nice to hear from you again. (excited) Did you finally break up with Tanya? DAN: What? No, I, what makes you say that? MARK: Oh, she’s been posting so many subtweets. Lots of like, melancholy kind of mainstream folk music. Starbucks stuff. Anyway, do I finally get to talk shit about Tanya? Because I really really want to talk about her terrible taste in books. Like, she prefers Harry Potter to-

hes just pathetic here is comical??? who hates their friends partner so much for the pettiest reasons? like to the point ur not even bothering to pretend to be sad? like again you can read mark as just ur standard garden variety asshole and maybe tht was Marcs intention but like.... idk considering how much hes shown to care about dan in the podcast framing device? and then later on the way Dromen talks about Mark ....

MARK: Is it? Because I don’t know anymore. Dan, I care about you, and I’d like to see you again soon, OK? (A pause) DAN: I’m close to something, I can feel it. I need to finish this story. I need to free myself of it. Then I’ll see you again. It won’t be long. Goodbye Mark. SFX: Hangs up the phone. DAN: Deep sigh MARK: (quiet and heartbroken) I should have tried to… I should have done something. But I didn’t. I… don’t know what else to say

Like ....marc sollinger.....marc what did you mean by heartbroken??? marc?

TANYA: Dan, are you ok? Mark’s worried about you. And he doesn’t usually talk to me.

lol i tried to find the dromen scenes in the transcripts but...... they aren’t there, hes just there as Mark,,, so dromen was added probably when they had to add the golden age? which ....fascinating? like ok heres marks dialogue at the end of s2

SUIT (CAROLINE): I was. I have been here too long. Daniel Powell is still alive, he might prove useful- MARK: Dan’s- SFX: Mark rushes over to Dan MARK: Dan! Oh god what did they do to you? Dan? Can you hear me? It’s me, it’s Mark! Wake up! Wake up! SUIT (CAROLINE): He is unconscious. He was… modified. You will have to do what is necessary before you take him with you. You have your knife? MARK: But… that’s… SUIT (CAROLINE): He will survive. Before that, I would ask you for a favor.

MARK: Dan, Dan, can you hear me? I have to… cut that off of you, before I can take you home. But you’ll be home soon, OK, and we’ll figure out a way to… make you normal again. Oh god, I’m so sorry.

and theres other stuff too but Marks interactions w Suit are .... simultaneously more and less gutwrenching than Dromens

And, I have to… become something powerful enough to help Dan, this ritual will let me do that. And with everything the cult did for me, it was worth a shot, right? So yeah, I hope hearing this was entertaining, if nothing else. I’m off to try and find Dan… SFX: Radio weirdness MARK: (As Mark talks he starts to become Dromen) Oh.. oh shit, what’s happening to me, what’s happening to me, what’s happening to… us.

god like... i cant wait to relisten and note the stuff thts different

and like ... the scene w static man and dromen just in text doesnt pull the heartsstrings as much

DAN: Marc, Marc, is that you? DROMEN: Dan? What are you doing here? We’re still- FLUNKIE 2: Where’s that voice coming from? FLUNKIE 1: What the hell is happening? DAN: Oh good, this is perfect.

...

STATIC MAN: Ugh, what an asshole, right? Anyway, you can make it happen, or I can continue doing this SFX: Tape sound DAN: It’s me, it’s Dan, Marc, why did you abandon me? I trusted you- DROMEN: Stop! (A beat) DROMEN: Nicholas and Christine will no longer be pursued. You have our word.

STATIC MAN: Oh, definitely, the robot weirdo doesn’t lie, I don’t think he can now.

hmm, its interesting Dromen looks different to different ppl but like both christine and nicholas as robotic as well....? but yeah like ... ‘i dont think he can now’ so static man def knows at least Most of the dromark story though i do wonder if in the podcast itself static man uses he pronouns....

#a81 talk tag #im mostly doing this so i can add on later

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