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Ngl, seeing Maki haters/Toji stans bitch how Maki is a bad character or that she's only a "Toji copy" is the funniest shit ever. Y'know why? Because they literally got slandered by Gege as a character.
That's right. This motherfucker. He quite literally is what those Maki haters are- or what he symbolizes. And it's funny how they always bitch about Maki or that she's just a "copy" when...look at Naoya. Look how he ended up. Look at how stupid he was portrayed. Look how she DOMINATED him. Look how dumb he looked narrative wise.
Also...when do parallels mean a bad character or a "copy?" What cause Maki's a girl? That's stupid. If she were a copy she wouldn't have been created by Gege before Toji in JJK 0. Or have her dynamic with Yuta, or those moments of her struggling to accept affection, or have all that development, or her dynamic with Mai, or her symbolism.
Conclusion: Naoya and toxic Toji stans are mainly wannabe sigma toxic male 14 year old boys who can't even get a snickers from their mommy lmao. They're also the fans who were LITERALLY slandered by Gege in the form of a character.
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Hello again! It’s me! The one who asked a bunched of questions about your Werewolf fic!
Thank you for answering them! It really did clears things up for me!
I actually got a few of more question actually, since I sort of forgot to ask them last time. (Although, that ask was getting long enough so maybe it was a blessing?)
Anyway, my first question is that, Mai mentioned how Maki killed the Hei man in order to protect, but it seems like it was the Hei man that took Maki alone and then Maki killed him out of self defense. Am I missing some subtle context? Or was there a sinister motive behind the Hei man?
Second question is that since Mai went solo by going to Ito Rie’s house, does that mean that Shoko, Maki, and Nobara were back at the hotel? What were they doing during that time? I was surprised that Mai was able to go solo since Nobara would probably be up in Mai’s head since she would think Mai is slacking off again or something.
Third question, since the “Faceless Maki” is actually a shadow cursed spirit that Mai manifested what grade would it be? It seem to be pretty intelligent (seems to be a bit full of it self, which I love. cute quirky little curse). So would you say it to be above Grade 1? And how long ago did this curse started to manifest?
Last one. I doubt you would be able to write anytime soon since writing takes a while, and life stuff happens. But I do wonder if you have a vague idea when you going to write the epilogue and the sequel?
Oh! But do take your time tho! Self care is waaaaay more important! I just want have a general idea out of curiosity. You don’t have to answer it if you don’t wanna.
Hello, don’t worry about sending me asks about my fics I love to talk about them so I can answer these all day long! Thank you so much for reading and sharing your thoughts with me.
Okay, so I answered.this question a little bit [here already], but let’s say there are darker implications on the kind of abuse women face in the Zenin clan.
My intention when writing that scene was basically to show the two ways that Maki and Mai display their victimhood, Mai tends to be entirely passive she endures what she has been through and then bottles it all up deep down inside of her. Maki has always fought back and retaliated with violence.
It was also to show the way they reacted to what essentially is similar abuse in the Zenin clan is so different, and also the way they show concern for one another is different. More or less what happened in that scene which I left to an implication because I didn’t want to be gratuitious about it is that a man who was a member of the Hei squad, later went on to try to abuse Maki in the same way. However, in this case Maki snapped and murdered him because Maki fights back and Mai endures.
Afterwards, Mai discovers Maki with the body and helps her twin sister who has just committed a murder hide the body so Maki won’t get into even more trouble with their family than she already is. Mai perceives Maki’s violence as the way Maki both protects herself, and her. Which makes sense because Maki has assumed the role of the stronger one and the protector ever since they were children and Mai was scared to look at the cursed spirits that Mai couldn’t see so Maki held her hand and promised to never abandon her.
Mai has much more complicated feelings about her sister that she shows on the surface, and also admires Maki in a way and sees Maki as the stronger one and so she saw Maki’s action as killing the same person who abused Mai as protecting her. We don’t really see Maki’s perspective in this flashback so we don’t know exactly what happened, did Maki kill this man because she knew what happened to Mai, or did she just snap and kill him out of self defense b/c Maki cannot take the abuse that the Zenin continually heaps on her without reaching a breaking point and lashing out with violent retribution.
For Mai there’s admiration for her sister’s strength and also a sense of inferiority and envy because she believes herself to be “lesser” because she doesn’t fight back, she endures instead, however in that scene after Maki snapped and killed a man the one who helped her hide the body was Mai, and Mai has always tried to be there for her sister in her own way.
Okay, so it’s still fair you’re confused by this because I didn’t transition between the scenes too well. IT’s a bit difficult in a limited perspective to keep track of where everyone is, but you know I could have done a better job as well because what is clear in my head isn’t always clear what I write.
Basically, from the start Mai has announced her intention to slack off and not attempt to do anything helpful for the Jujutsu Mission, and like she did sneak out to go drinking so like she’s already shown Noara once that she fully intends to goof off on the mission.
Shoko, Maki and Nobara are all taking the mission seriously and attempting to search the area for the cursed spirit to fight, and they are investigating in a more standard way, they are probably properly following whatever Shoko’s instructions are on what to do next.
Umm, one idea for a scene that I had that ended up getting cut was that Shoko after finding out that Maki killed an innocent girl by accident was going to have to give the body back to the parents of that girl and also come up with a lie as to why that girl died. And Maki was with her for that and tried to explain to the mother what happened to her daughter.
Nobara has been following Mai around constantly through the fic. However, I think after the whole ordeal of both burying the body of the girl Maki killed on accident and then kissing Mai while they had a corpse in the truck was something Nobara needed to take some time to herself to sort through her thoughts. We didn’t really get to see that but basically, in the epilogue chapter there’s a scene planned that shows Nobara and Mai still aren’t really communicating. Basically, they both agree not to talk about the kiss, and that they don’t like each other, b/c Nobara just doesn’t really want to think about it, the everything that happened, her new perspective on Maki as someone violent, her seeing a more positive side of Mai both of them are like shaking Nobara’s foundations and Nobara is pretty fixed in their beliefs. Basically, they agree they don’t like each other, and then say the kiss is a mistake and will never happen again. And then they kiss again. Like idiots. Therefore ending it on a cliffhanger.
Faceless Maki / MAi is a shadow cursed spirit that Mai manifested. I can actually give you a bunch more lore I thought of for her, since she’s going to be important in the planned sequel to the fic.
Her name is Mai Mai. Or Maiko. Or Not-Mai.
Not-Mai is the most common one she uses. The rest are just silly names she came up with for herself. She is the cursed spirit who is Not-Mai. She’s based off of the legend of doppelgangers, another version of yourself who will hunt you down and then replace you, however rather than disliking Mai she likes her and therefore rather than malevolent her intentions are more positive.
She is essentially Mai’s jungian shadow who is made up of the repressed parts of Mai’s personality, she messes with Mai’s head a little bit, she makes Mai question herself because she is the unconscoius part of Mai’s mind that is made up of everything Mai won’t acknowledge and because Mai is an incredibly repressed individual as she endures rather than fight back, all of those repressed thoughts and feelings have to go somewhere. However, Mai’s shadow doesn’t hate her, for two reasons, the shadow isn’t the evil side of yourself, it’s just made of the thoughts and feelings you don’t acknowledge. You can never get rid of your shadow, you can only accept it and work with it. The second is that as negative as Mai is about herself, Mai is also a very loving person, in canon itself her love for Mai is extremely selfless cultivating in her going back to the Zenin House for the sake of Maki when she is a much weaker person who had no hope of fighting back, and also giving her life for her. Mai is a person capable of loving, and who wants to be loved in return, so therefore the cursed spirit that Mai created doesn’t hate her because even at her deepest most repressed self Mai isn’t a hateful person.
It’s kind of like the duality of self-loathing, and a desire for self-love that is the conflict that makes up Mai’s character arc. You have to actively work through feelings of self-loathing before you can reach self acceptance.
Her shadow is a grade one cursed spirit around the same level of power as Choso. However, her power doesn’t lie really in physical battles her real talent is hiding in people’s shadows and watching through their eyes. She’s a spirit of deception and camouflage rather than physical prowess, matching the doppelganger myth. But she is abovet Grade One due to her sentience. She doesn’t technically have to be in Mai’s shadow, she could jump to Maki’s shadow, to Nobara’s shadow if she really really wanted to, she just likes Mai the most.
She could be a lot stronger, she could use a version of Mai’s cursed technique because she is a copy of Mai (basically two abilities: scan where she hides in someone’s shadow and observes, and second: create where she copies someone. She is an exact copy of Mai. She could theoretically be a copy of someone else, but she would lose her current dientity as a copy of Mai. She wants to stay Mai so she doesn’t change.) She COULD theoretically use Mai’s cursed technique, but she would have to consume a lot of Mai’s cursed energy to do so, or even potentially eat Mai. She has reserves of cursed energy that are higher than Mai’s and can use RCT right now due to her nature as a pure cursed technique, but her refusal to take any real cursed energy from Mai means she spends most of her time hiding with weak reserves of cursed energy.
She was created a year ago when Mai first signed up for the Jujutsu Academy in Kyoto, because of Mai’s desire to be more like Maki, plus the pressure she forced from her clan to become a jujutsu sorcerer now that Mai was one.
I have specific worldbuilding lore about how she was created but that’s in another fic. All of my JJK fics exist in generally the same continuity and sometimes they reference each other by having ocs from other fics show up. If you’re curious about that it’s called “Exponential Growth”.
For your last question, basically I can only work on one fanfic project at a time otherwise my brain breaks. ANd when I start one I work on it until completion. The fic I’m writing on right now is a teen titans fanfic called “Things Fall Apart”, basically I’m 5/6ths of the way done with the first draft, and once I was finished with the entire first draft of the story I was going back to write the epilogue.
I have two fics planned for the sequel, the first is a YutaMaki fic where they go to Hakari’s fighting arena on a mission, the second is a rewrite of the Zenin Family Massacre arc where Mai doesn’t die.
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The fish part is so true 💀
You’re literally so real for this ��I’ve always felt the same to be honest. I’ve always felt like JJK fans only go by what others say and don’t just…analyze the damn manga themselves. Because I’m genuinely curious how someone can read and analyze JJK manga and come to the conclusion Maki is a Toji copy and had no depth.
*Cough* Megumi…
Yesss this! The word “fraud” at this point gives me ptsd and war flashbacks to JJK’s stupid ass fandom. They need to get that word taken from them. 😭
(Dw that’s fine! ATLA fandom does have a lot of bad takes but the show and characters can be very deep so I can KIND OF understand at times. Sailor Moon fandom also has many ass takes but that can be blamed on the slightly shitty 90s adaptation. JJK fandumb on the other hand has a good adaptation and everything yet they're just really stupid lmao)
Can JJK, ATLA, and Sailor Moon fandoms not come up with a god horrendous objectively wrong take for just…one second?
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