#magicfam

[secondgenerationnerd]

Magic fam Questions:

How old were Zatanna and Constantine when they had Zachary?

Which characteristics does he share with his mother/father?

What are Zacharys powers like?

Is he going to a public... or private school? Or is he home schooled?

Who are Zachs friends?

What is Zacharys full name?

1. Zatanna Late 20’s, John Early 30’s

2. His mother’s charm and temper, his father’s ability to put his foot in his mouth and general sarcasm. It actually balances very well in him.

3. I think he learned magic from both parents. Like primarily uses backwards magic, but he loved learning from his dad different rituals and spells.

4. He was home schooled most of his life, then ended up going to a performing arts high school (he’s a musical theatre kid through and through)

5. Sebastian Faust, a few fae, a mermaid he once had a crush on, his team, omega, Epislon, and a few school friends

6. Zachary Francis Zatara

[lonniemachin]

“magicfam” in what fucking universe LMAO

[shadethechangingman]

OH my other thing is arrowette being there and kenan being on superfam and the stupid "traci and nat dont get along after the breakup" retcon i feel ilke dc characters are being put into Family Boxes and not allowed to branch out.. kenan cant have his actual team, arrowette cant be friends w the YJ crew (there is no YJ crew friendship anymore), traci can't be a supergirl bc shes "MAGICFAM" so she cant be around natasha, and yet at the same time all these characters r also getting shoved to the back in favour of the Main Character and even opportunities to do specials on them are just about how they arent friends w their original casts anymore

also ok hear me out here but i dont like that DC is retconning roy being an irresponsible dad... like having him be mad that lian was trained w knives (when he let her play w his empty guns in arsenal) and removing the "after roy got custody of her he dropped her off with a friend for 2 years" thing amongst other... it doesnt really serve the character it just removes flaws that idk i feel like built him into a more complete and complicated character, hes so bland now, the """arrowfam""" all being a big happy family is so forced and its the same as the superfam thing where theyre ALL getting dumbed down to fit in the Nice Family Box

[milalovesdc]

Haha im totally not writing a last-minute-idea Halloween chapter of my fic where zatara || is dressed like this

;)

[dykerachelsummers]

earth-82 magicfamily

Giovanni “John” Zatara (The Magician)

John Thomas Constantine

Zatanna “Zee” Zatara

Angela Mary Roth / Arella

Donna Andrea Troy (Wonder Girl -> Troia)

Lilith Clay (Omen)

Rachel Ariel Roth / Raven

Zachary “Zach” Ezekial Zatara (The Magician II)

Zinnia Zatara

Juniper “June” Arella Roth

[earth627]

Zatanna: I thought you were better than this!

Zach: You did? Why?

[mysticallymagi]

“Alice’s first day of school 🥺 my baby is growing up too fast.” -Zatanna at one point probably

[coffeebooh]

they’re siblings btw

[milfzatannaz]

not everything in comics needs a “-fam” at the end. I’m terrified one day that I’m going to login and one of you will call sandman characters “sandmanfam” and I will have to commit several hate crimes

[secondgenerationnerd]

Just a cute magicfam idea for Father’s Day

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John really meant to sleep in his bed last night. Honest, he did. But Zee had gotten back from her show the same time he got done translating a scroll. A night cap lead to another….and another…until they made their way upstairs. Now sunlight creeps up the sheets. Zatanna shifts beside him, the smell of her honey body wash keeping him frozen. How long can they stay here until—

“Daddy?” A little hand pokes at his face. “Daddy, wake up.”

“Hmmm…” Through bleary eyes, John makes out the sweet face of Zachary Zatara, their six-year-old son. Running a hand over Zachary’s dark curls, John murmurs, “What are ye doing up so early, mate?”

“It’s Father’s Day.” Zachary says, accent matching John’s. Behind him, John hears Zatanna stirring. “I have a present for you.”

“C’mere,” John lifts Zachary up, putting him between himself and Zatanna. The Sorceress Supreme smiles when she sees their son in his rumpled jammies.

“Good morning, Tesoro.” She teases, kissing his temple.

“Mummy, did Daddy forget it’s Father’s day again?”

“Oi, that was one time,” John reminds him, playfully nudging his son’s head. “Besides, Little Zee, I told ye. I don’t need anything.”

“Uncle Jason says you need lots of things. Like a kick to the pants and a stay in the loony bin.”

John snorts at that, propping himself on the pillows, “Uncle Jason is a twat waffle.”

“John, don’t teach him that!” But she’s laughing too, sitting up. Rubbing her fingers through Zachary’s hair, “Do you have something for Daddy?”

Zachary pulls a drawing from under his sleep shirt. Holding it out to his father, he beams at John, “Happy Father’s Day, Daddy!”

John takes the paper from his son and grins. He recognizes the three people in the middle—himself, Zatanna, and Zachary. Around them are all sorts of protection wards and runes, the same ones Zachary watches them write out. Zachary moves closer, pointing to something in the background.

“That’s Zoe, my griffin.” He tells his parents matter-of-factly.

“Uh huh,” Zatanna nods, mischief in her eyes, “I remember us letting Zoe go back to her mommy.”

“I still think I should have one. Much more fun than a dog or cat.”

His parents laugh at that, earning a scowl from him. If they ever questioned who’s he is, these moments always solidify it for him.

“Ask us again when yer, I dunno, 17.” John shakes him head, setting the picture to the side.

“Do you like it, Daddy?” The curiosity in Zachary’s eyes nearly suffocates John. Because there’s no fear or apprehension mixed in. Zachary doesn’t fear him the way John once feared Thomas. A simple smile puts any of his son’s worry at ease.

“It’s perfect, mate.” Pulling his son to his chest, John relaxes against the pillows. Soaking in the rightness of this moment. “I love ye, Zachary. Ye know that, right?”

“I know. You tell me all the time.” Zachary doesn’t move away from his embrace. Just rests his head against his father’s chest.

“Oh? Then tell me, smartass, how much do I love ye?”

“You and Mummy would burn the world to keep me warm.” Zachary says simply. Like he’s always known it to be true. Which, to be fair, it is. Zatanna smiles and curls up against John’s side, an arm around Zachary.

“How much do you love Daddy?” She asks, tracing patterns on John’s arm. For a moment, it’s quiet while Zachary thinks. Then his words make John tear up.

“Too much and more. Like Daddy deserves.”

[log-lady]

#mood

[capochinootea]

If I had DS: ITMoM my way, I would...

1. Instead of Scarlet W*tch, I'd have Peter Parker, Spider baby.

2. Bring Christine Palmer back (rumours says she wont appear on screen, but until then im not sure).

3. Resolve conflict with Mordo or see what the fuck happened at the end of DS (2016).

8. *distant chanting* Doctor Dad, Doctor Dad, Doctor Dad, Doctor Dad, Doctor Dad, Doctor Da-

4. For some reason (and dont shit on me for this), I'd rather have Illyana than Clea. Plus I'd Illyana as Sorcerer Supreme.

5. SUPREMEFAMILY + The MagicFam and IronFam.

6. More Cloak screen time and interaction.

7. Give Wong a raise for having to deal with Stephen's suicidal and reckless ass.

9. Doctor Dad and Spiderson angst please.

10. Stephen destroying Jake Gyllehaal's ass please.

11. *distant chanting* Doctor Mom, Doctor Mom, Doctor Mom, Doctor Mom, Doctor Mom, Doctor Mo-

12. Harley Keener.

13. Please let Rhodey and Wong meet. Let them rant about their respective dumbasses.

14. Suprise, Tony is not actually dead. He's been hiding in Stephen's closet and has been fucking each other for the last 10 months.

15. Bird Uncle and Winter Soldier White Wolf Uncle.

16. Shuri and the gang.

17. MJ MJ MJ MJ MJ MJ MJ

18. Ned Ned Ned Ned Ned Ned

19. Flash's ass handed back to him.

20. Wedding of Tony Stark and Stephen Strange.

21. "Tony Strange-Stark"

22. "But like... Tony Stark-Strange sounds bettter"

23. "Shut the fuck up, Tony"

24. Baby Morgan please.

25. A HAPPY ENDING bc God Knows how much we need it after the whole Endg*me fiasco.

26. Roll credits..

27. After credits... Alternative Universe where Stephen and Tony are the villain and had already wreak havoc on the entire city for the 20th time in 3 days and the Avengers are losing their shit bc how the fuck do they keep on destroying their asses?

[beautifulterriblequeen]

Does Viren actively abuse his children? I think he neglects them but I have experienced emotional abuse and gaslighting. Aside from the time Viren lied to Soren to make him think he misunderstood when he didn't, (under Aaravos' advisement) I haven't seen him actively doing it.... Or are there different intensities to abuse, and Viren's is low intensity? People say Viren abuses Claudia, which confuses me even more because he always trusts, defends and respects her.

I don't have experience with abuse as a child, and what I do know is from a very different situation than the dynamic the magicfam has. But I think the best way to measure abuse is not what it looks like or how violent it is. It's the magnitude of impact it has on the victim. If your experiences with a person change you deeply in a negative way because of their beliefs and attitudes toward who you are and what you represent to them, it doesn't matter if they hit you or not. A person can deliberately abuse with the constant pressure of expectations and opinions stated as facts, as if the other person is automatically wrong and needs to do all the work of "improvement" or "conforming".

But saying things loudly, often, and with ringing conviction has exactly zero impact on being right.

I know it's my own experiences talking here, but the more insistent someone is on their single approach being the only right one, the less likely I am to consider them emotionally developed enough to safely interact with. It's okay to give yourself permission to nope out when something raises a red flag like that. It can happen for many reasons, and not all of them are even bad. Actual children can sound this way and it's just because they're too young to have learned nuance yet. But if it's a weak spot, you gotta protect yourself from unnecessary stress.

Viren doesn't really trust, defend, or respect Claudia, in my mind. He just trusts what he's made her into: a loyal minion. He turned on Soren the moment it served his purpose. And that's after he did some really big dark magic stuff to save his life when he was younger. He may not see what he's doing as abuse in general, and he definitely wouldn't agree that he's doing it specifically. But if you're hurting someone, you don't get to tell them that you aren't. That's their call.

Viren's been twisted by dark magic even when he used it for the purest of reasons. Like the One Ring. He did love his kids once. But his choices have led him slowly toward a place where ideas outweigh the lives involved in them. When you can't grasp the concept of empathy anymore, everything you do is potentially a form of abuse.

[dyketectivecomics]

Idk what took Steph is so tell me about it? Also ☠️ thing for magicfam!raven from that ask thing like 2(?) weeks ago?

Ooof ok two part q here we GO~ pt 1:

Rook is the identity Steph takes on in me & tee’s “Helena & Renee adopt Steph” AU! The core idea being that Steph gets Tired™️ of watching her moms go night after night on their own separate Crime Crusades, and decides for herself that Huntress & Question deserve a sidekick ala Batman & Robin ofc!

Me & Tee chose Rook bc its both a play on the bird motif & on a chess motif, so it works well with Huntress (ala a hunter and their hawk for ex), or Question (conspiracy and corruption have to be dealt with like a game of chess afterall). Actually while you’ve got the chess thing going, we could Maybe make an argument that it connects w/ the Spoiler theme, a hero who uses cunning & intelligence to get an advantage over her enemies first. Idk I just really love the way Rook works as a Potential hero ID overall.

Personally, I’ve decided the one constant for her costume will def be both the psuedoderm & domino mask, bc i like the idea that, even with them letting Steph be a Young Vigilante, they’re Extra Protective of her identity. And also the redundancy jokes to be had

Alright now Part dos!

☠️ - angry/violent headcanon

So raven lived a kinda idyllic childhood compared to canon, right? Like not Normal by any stretch, but something with a lot more normalities and exposure to Normal Goddamn People. (She’s more well-adjusted to pop culture & more relaxed around people basically) BUT. She’s also been much much more tempted by that demon half as a result. So anytime she’s been shown a penchant for Violence (starting with breaking toys or playing Too Roughly with others as a child) John and Zee shut that down Immediately. As she grows up ofc she needs to find an outlet for it, since she’s been allowed to Feel more fully and freely. While meditation does help when she’s more of a tween, she eventually needs Even More Outlets which leads (drum roll please 🥁 🥁 🥁) to Sports!

Now I know what ur thinking. “Raven? And sports? Ew” but LISTEN this is a DIFFERENT earth. This is a DIFFERENT background. One where she’s Encouraged to Try All The Things & Meet All The People & Feel All The Emotions (okay. Whoa wait. Dial it back there kiddo JUUUUST a Tad.) so ofc that means doing things that aren’t considered by fanon, Normal for her.

Something ya gotta understand too is, not all sports are Team Sports.

Ye THATS right. I’m talking running, I’m talking swimming, I’m talking track & field and weightlifting and boxing and all of the little Individual Exercises that she can do w/out wanting to get too many other people involved.

Bc Ravens not a violent person, by her human nature at least. But that doesn’t mean that she won’t need an outlet when she’s already given her demonic half a little too much freedom already

[dykerachelsummers]

magicfam & assassinfam

so in earth-82, i ended up (accidentally) creating two entire new families because i’m always a slut for a good found family dynamic. here’s the official list of both families, present and future:

magicfam

zatanna zatara

zachary zatara

lilith clay (omen)

john constantine

arella roth

raven roth

june roth (juniper)

zinnia zatara

+ honorary

kara zor-el / kara starr (superwoman)

donna troy (troia)

assassinfam

talia al ghul

jade nguyen (cheshire)

jason todd (red hood/phoenix)

sandra wu-san (lady shiva)

nyssa raatko

haruka | shado

+ honorary

damian wayne (robin/red bird)

komand’r (blackfire)

[kimsune444]

We got Magic Mail!!!!!! We love you, Mama Wendy! Thank you so much. This means everything. 💖 #magicmail #neverlanders #magicfam #tinkerhook #mamatock