#maggie calling him an angel for not making her pay rent and aziraphale being like naaaah im selfishly taking away your records!

[myfairstarlight]

Something about Aziraphale not knowing how to react when someone tells him they love him... like sure, you could argue he had an awkward reaction because it was Gabriel but I do feel like even if Crowley ever said bluntly "I love you" Aziraphale.exe would stop responding and forget to say anything in favour of awkwardly waving his hands around instead

[sarah-skylark]

Gonna get this out of my system now before we start getting more info: my predictions for series 2 in whatever order I remember them

Aziraphale and Crowley are cut off from their celestial/infernal wages. Crowley loves the earth but also loves his demonic miracles and has just been using his (magic? Power? What do we call this) to get things. Since we know hell stops paying for his Mayfair place. He either moves in with aziraphale or in one of his buildings.

Aziraphale loves humans, doesn’t quite get them, but strives to do things the human way. He’s bought up a bunch of Soho and rents out some of it for low prices so he’s loved by the neighborhood. This is why in the book, the mafia sometimes tries to stick their nose in. It also means he has an income and doesn’t need his celestial wages.

Crowley either works at or owns the dirty donkey. In the script-we-shall-not-speak-of he has a nightclub, so I think there was an idea for him to have some sort of drinking establishment percolating back of gaiman’s mind

Gabriel is the angel with no memory ( I think everyone got that huge messenger hint). I hope it’s a learning story for him because in spite of his depiction in fan fiction, he’s actually pretty encouraging and supportive of aziraphale early on. In that annoying corporate way but still.

The three mini-bits will be a bible story, a story set in the 1800s perhaps involving one of them getting stuck or hiding in a pickle barrel (maybe magic? Wikipedia says John Maskelyne was born in late 1839 and we know aziraphale learned his magic from him, and Maskelyne was also a paranormal investigator so I wonder if he catches on to aziraphale’s odd nature). And third story is maybe e explaining why Crowley is known to the nazis since we know some of that cast is back.

Mrs sandwich and her girls… hmmm I am stuck on that one but I think she must run showgirls in soho from when it was red light?

Nina and Maggie are going to be mirrors for Crowley and aziraphale if they were humans with human lifespans and relationships. Nina is apparently cranky and series crowley is more acerbic than book Crowley, Maggie is very aziraphale—like with what we’ve seen of the record store and demeanor. We know it’s a soft sort of love story going on along with the mystery, and while I know a lot of fandom are pretty sure they are the love story, I think it really will be THEY are the love story, not aziraphale and Crowley. Because aziraphale and Crowley are an angel and demon and have been around forever and specifically close for 6k, so their relationship doesn’t LOOK like a human pairing. They will be them on the same side. The developing relationship between the two women will be what would have been if they were just people.

Adding to this, I think aziraphale and Crowley are going to be separated for a lot of this series, much to a lot of fan’s dismay. (Like not separated like the first book but like partners who have to tackle different tasks) I think this because 1) we see aziraphale wants to borrow the Bentley and is doing something on his own. 2) we know the rumored series 3 will reflect the TP NG ballparked idea for book 2, which as an old fandom fart, I know is the American road trip plot (which I’m sure will be updated). So they will spend more time together in 3 but I think this one will be more Crowley on his own -aziraphale on his own, but only because they are doing their own stuff, not because of any disagreement. They are more settled and on the same side etc so it’s more like some personal growth while also being together, if that makes sense. (I also think the mini-sodes will be them together for bible, aziraphale focused for 1800s and then Crowley focused).

I am absolutely not sure where serequil ( I know I spelled that wrong sorry) and stax fit in but from their descriptions I hope they interact rotfl. Muriel I think will be a bit of a mirror for very very early aziraphale. From belief.net “Muriel’s name means “God’s perfume.” Her angelic responsibility includes tending the animals and the plants of earth. She is often depicted with a crown of flowers which she lovingly places in the river of life. When she is around, you may smell the subtle scent of your favorite flower.Muriel brings messages of peace and harmony, reminding us that every selfless good deed is rewarded exponentially. Muriel’s huge heart will teach you how to love unconditionally.”

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I may add to this post as I stumble upon things but I don’t want to change anything because I want to see how wrong or right I am! It’s not often I’m in a fandom getting new canon and I actually have time to think about it before it is released.

[moo-oon]

Good Omens Re-Watch pt.1

I'm rewatching Good Omens with some friends (some have seen it already some have not) and I thought I would share my thoughts as they come because I am dying.

EPISODE 1:

The scene where Maggie calls Aziraphale to her record shop because she cannot pay rent could potentially be seen as a foreshadowing of the downfall of Crowley and Aziraphales relationship. I believe that Maggie represents Crowley even though I initially thought otherwise. Running with that thought though Maggie feels like she's run out of time, and is unable to afford the shop (and in turn her lifestyle). Instead of Aziraphale addressing Maggie's concerns he brushes it off and makes an unfair trade to allow her to stay without paying rent. While on the surface it feels like a typical angel move, it stems from a place of selfishness. He does not want things to change, and he wants his music, so he’ll make it happen without ever addressing the root problem. Sound familiar :)

In the scene of Crowley and Shax in the park, Shax says that she has been trying to do elaborate plans to spread pain and misery but the humans get to it first. This feels a lot like Aziraphales and Crowley's relationship with heaven and hell. Both parties have inadvertently worked against them and their hopeful relationship.

I have seen so many people talk about the coffee shop scene where Crowley says “You only have three reasons to call me” and how that shows how much he gets used in the relationship. And while I entirely agree that Crowley is not valued enough Aziraphale responding with “its nice to tell someone the good things you’ve done” is really heartbreaking. You just know that Crowley wants to have normal domestic conversations and that Aziraphale desperately wants validation. PLEASE COMMUNICATE BETTER!

I could be looking into things WAY too much but when Nina says “hard choices, mint tea or chamomile” there has to be some purpose.

Can I just say that I love and adore Muriel.

Beelzebub is willing to give Crowley SO MUCH to get Gabriel back. Lowkey Aziraphale vibes? Also, Beelzebub saying “You could have whatever your nasty little heart desires” and Crowley not taking that as an opportunity to get him and Aziraphale safe shows his entirely different perspective. In Crowley's mind, the only way that they are truly safe is if there is no heaven and hell to interfere. If Aziraphale had gotten that offer (which he basically does in ep6) he would have taken it in a heartbeat. They are not in the same place mentally at all this season.

EPISODE 2:

I think the book of Job is such an interesting setting and I do not remember enough from my Catholic days to give a full review and so I will leave that to others. But may I say that there is something very telling about biblically focusing on the section of the bible where god screws over someone who believes and worships him so purely. Aziraphale idealizes god and all the “good” that comes with him, but ultimately is emotionally destroyed by his “teachings”.

Also, the Job section of the episode points out that god and satan talk on the regular. Timestamp around 3:40 Muriel says something like “And then Satan said” like it was just a normal afternoon chat. I do not know how significant or how insignificant it is but I thought that was silly!

Aziraphale holds himself back from correcting even Jim (Gabriel). When Jim is organizing the books in alphabetical order by the first word of the first sentence Aziraphale almost snaps at him before holding back. I know it's entirely different than correcting the almighty (as seen in ep1 with the creation of the universe) but it still feels significant.

The metaphor of Maggie being Crowley and Nina being Aziraphale is so perfect. Nina and her controlling partner (heaven) and Maggie watching from across the street pining over her but knowing it won't work. It won't work BECAUSE of the controlling partner and the mindset Nina has about it. I was unaware something so small could make my head and heart hurt so much.

“The big ones can be used as fly swats! I know what you’re thinking, but it is okay, it never works!” Gabriel basically saying that he likes flies and does not want to kill them is so sweet. He is delirious, confused, and unaware but still has some sort of love for Beezelebub :)))))))

I do not think it can be said enough how adorable and heartbreaking it is that Crowley wants to get Nina and Maggie together by being hit with a sudden rainstorm and sharing a canopy. No further explanation is needed.

The pain that is Crowley forcing Gabriel to remember even though it's painful because Crowley has done it. Crowley has been cast out and had his memory altered and broken up. His brain entirely shrunken and scattered. That theory just hurts my heart.

Back in Job times, Aziraphale tries to make assumptions about what god wants. Crowley has a better understanding of heaven and god because of his rebellion. We all know he is a decently high-up angel thanks to episode 6 so I trust his perspective on heaven decently enough. Aziraphale is so sunken in his desire to see the good and perfection in heaven and god that he is so utterly blind to heaven and HIS imperfections. 

“Angels can't be tempted, can you?” says a lot. First of it is interesting that they don’t seem to entirely know if it's possible. Second of all while Aziraphale entirely denies it he then immediately is tempted. Once again highlighting the flaws of his perception of a perfect heaven. Heaven cannot be perfect if Angels can be so easily tempted.

All you wonderful intelligent people that analyzed what/how/why the angels do not see or recognize Crowley as a demon in the ? childbirth? scene during Job times I respect you. So much to unpack there.

Nina associates people entirely with the coffee they order. She even judges people on that, despite that being only a fraction of their personality. Aziraphale obviously does the same and focuses on people and their sins rather than their entire situation. His moral code is so strict that he cannot even recognize that someone might have an unfair advantage or disadvantage that requires sin.

In the next immediate scene, he even views himself in such a tiny view. He did one thing against heaven and immediately assumes he was going to hell. Even calls himself a fallen angel.