#long seasons like Lucifer or B99

[iredreamer]

I just wanted to say, Lucifer and Brooklyn Nine Nine were saved after being cancelled, as well. Dunno about Lucifer, but I think b99 fans made a lot of noise and it was picked up by another production company. There's probably other shows too that's I don't know about. 😅 Anyways, now we know BBC and Lookout Point both wanted s3. I know it's a long shot, but maybe another company could partner with them. Just my opinion, but I don't think fans should give up now. Fans of those other shows didn't

Fans can do what they want, I’m literally nobody and my opinion is just my opinion. I’m not saying y’all should give up I’m just saying I think the fandom is not as big as you think. GJ literally flopped on HBO, it didn’t reach the target audience at all and the target audience was supposed to be 18-24 year olds… young people, very active online… but, hey-ho, I’d love to be proved wrong!

If BBC wants season 3 so bad they should be the ones — together with Sally and her team— to go around and find another partner to make it. But clearly this is not their intention. Sally said the chance of a third season is remote and is asking fans to make some noise so some other partner will notice the show. I personally find this weird. I don’t like it when writers and showranners do this. In my opinion there shouldn’t be much interaction between fans and the creators of a show, there shouldn’t be a relationship or exchange of favours. It’s weird.

I love GJ but I honestly can see why it didn’t do so well this season, it was just a not good enough season, the writing was all over the place at points, directing was just off and most of the storylines were superfluous… it was a revolutionary show when it came out and season two is…just there.

[mulderscully]

these past two weeks have made me seriously, seriously reconsider my relationship with cop shows and b99 in particular. i also keep thinking about why it has taken me so long to reconsider.

i understand that in the large scheme of things fictional cops aren't a big issue, but as someone who has spent years engaging with the show and fandom it feels wrong for me not to think/talk about it. i need to express my feelings somewhere and i'll put it under the cut starting here.

b99 is far from my first cop show. tbh if you look at most of my favorite shows they're police shows. castle, lucifer, the x files, twin peaks, and now roswell new mexico. all of them have a cop element and most of my ships are cops/one is a cop. full honesty the police aspect used to be what drew me to tv shows. i loved the mystery and the crime solving, esp if it was mixed with the supernatural. but now i am having a hard time coming to terms with that.

when i was still a full fledged b99 stan one argument i used to make was that the show got the most shit out of all cop shows. as someone who was so familiar with cop shows i couldn't understand why the funny and diverse show got the most discourse. now it's all too clear.

whereas with other shows the police aspect is secondary, b99 is pretty much ONLY about the police. on my other shows the police play a part to tell a larger story that obviously is not in our world. i mean, we don't have the actual devil or aliens running around. no one is trapped in the black lodge. that doesn't make it okay, but it makes the police part less important. it's just... there (and it should not be.)

even if b99 is an alternative universe where good cops exist it's still a world strickingly like our own, no?

b99 gets the most shit because while it TELLS us the squad is different it still a lot of times shows us the opposite but it flies under our radar because it's so funny and diverse.

let's take rosa. she's latina. she's bi. we love her. but she is also canonically and explicitly violent. she genuinely loves police brutality.

let's take jake. he's goofy. he's a feminist. we love him. he also deported a man for charles. he totes how much he loves guns. he actively tries to pin crimes on doug judy even if he can't prove it.

let's look at scully and hitchcock. they literally sexuality harass every woman on the show.

ray holt is one of my favorite characters of all time. i adore him. but he still plays a large part in the "not all cops" conversation. he is the prime example of a "good cop." frankly, i think holt is the only thing that can still save the show as it undoubtedly comes to an end next season. wouldn't it be ideal for him to resign after years and years of trying to fix the nypd to no avail? all it's done is get him demoted over and over again.

this is all just scratching the surface of the issue but as much as fans try and try to deny that the show is police propaganda the more it is. the reason the show keeps being mentioned is because people cannot separate the show from reality as much as they claim to. to fully laugh at b99 you have to put aside the atrocity of the real police force and not think about it. but WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT. because we can laugh at jake we soften ourselves to real cops.

for me personally i can't see myself going back to the show now. it feels wrong. and i am still processing how to feel about all my other shows as well, but b99 is the one i most adamantly defended and i feel guilt for doing so.

it absolutely IS copaganda - and it worked on me. i hope there is further discussion coming from dan goor and the cast in the coming months and i hope that every fictional cop resigns. i hope that even if it will take us a while to abolish the police in real life we can start in fiction sooner than later. fictional characters bend at our will and DO influence real life, be it positive or negative. we don't need fictional cops that spread the "not all cops" narrative that so many people truly believe. the system is rotten, we have to throw it away.

[issa-me-addy]

to put it simply: if you like anything on this list, we should like... totally be friends/moots

YES THIS IS LONG AND I APOLOGIZE BUT ITS BEEN IN THE BACK OF MY MIND I FELT AS IF I MUST EXPLAIN MYSELF AND MY BLOG FOR BEING A SHITSHOW OF JUST ALL THE THINGS I LIKE

this list is also for my current followers/moots to get to know me and know what to anticipate on my blog from here on out 

i like a lot of things and obvi i post more of some things than others 

but i’m mostly making this to find new friends/blogs to follow

ALSO MUST NOTE: THIS BLOG IS A SAFE SPACE 

I AM HERE FOR ANYONE I WILL ALWAYS RESPOND AND ALWAYS LISTEN AND DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP 

ALSO THIS BLOG DOES NOT TOLERATE ANY TYPE OF ASSHOLES 

I SUPPORT THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, THE BLM MOVEMENTS, I BELIEVE THAT NOBODY IS ILLEGAL, I AM RESPECTFUL TO ALL BELIEF SYSTEMS, WOMEN ARE AMAZING, TRANSRIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS, I BOOST POC REPRESENTATION IN MEDIA, 

AND I BELIEVE IN LOVE AND KINDNESS AS THE FOREFRONT OF THIS BLOG AND EVERYTHING I AM. BUT I WILL FUCK UP A TRICKASSBITCH FOR BEING FUCKING RUDE. 

also again, this post is really long i apologize

first and foremost i love the gays

i myself am a little bit gay

ok into the good stuff

DISNEY

like all things Disney, Pixar & select DCOMS

esp hsmtmts one of my many new found obsessions

also i love disneyland (los angeles born and raised baybee) 

i also like rollercoasters in general & universal studios is fun~

im a little into star wars been a slow and steady incline 

Marvel

but mostly

Bucky

Steve

Peter, both Parker & Quill

and the rest of the Guardians

ATLA

Zutara

if u shit on zutara u can go byebye idc if you ship kataang just don’t be a dick about zutara ok? ok.

also u MUST STAN APPA,TOPH,&SUKI

also huru but only pre-mustache 

all the Harry Potter things

but fuck JK Rowling frfr cos shes a nasty ass trifilin ass bitch 

the og hp books 1-7 are honestly the only relevant things shes ever produced

MUSICALS

including but not limited to

anything written by Lin Manuel including 21 Chump Street aka his best work

Heathers

Hadestown

Dear Evan Hansen

Wicked

Waitress 

Newsies

The Last Five Years

Mamma Mia

Beetlejuice

AND MANY MORE

One Direction (yes i know judge me)

but mostly Harry Styles and Fine Line

5sos minus the fandom because theyre problematic as fuck rn! 

pop punk trash

mostly State Champs

Neck Deep

All Time Low

Alex & Jack’s podcast/streamcast

We The Kings

Simple Plan

the list goes on but i’m getting annoying

also artists like

Tori Kelly

Kehlani

P!atd & Brendon

use those artists as genre/vibe reference lol

AND FINALLY SHOWS

i’m currently watching the Marvel TV shows but i can’t binge daredevil for some reason

but i am 100% in love with Mattew Murdock don’t get it twisted

i am SPN trash although i have to rewatch the last few seasons i don’t know wtf is going on anymore

NEW GIRL

NICK MILLER IS THE LOML

himym is up there

yes i’m friends trash idgaf judgey/bad vibes are not acceptable on this blog idc idc

b99

jake & amy are top tier otp

and Rosa’s very important to me

i aspire to be like the Gilmore Girls

except for rory’s probematicness at the end/in the reboot

ONE TREE HILL i will still title it the best show ever its… so good and also just sentimental to me because its the first show my sister and i really watched tg 

also watched like all of Grey’s because my mom was obsessed 

AND honorable mentions to these shows that i finished oh so long ago

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER 

SMALLVILLE

i <3 the following netflix ogs

One Day At A Time (i havent watched anything since netflix released them tho oop) 

On My Block

The Get Down (i will never forgive you or netflix for letting this show die) 

Lucifer

The Umbrella Academy (even though i don’t remember jack shit about whats going on) 

Disjointed

Stranger Things

The Haunting of Hill House

i got mixed feelings ab ‘You’

started but did not finish

(edit: adding cos how could i forget) TEENWOLF

the 100

vampire diaries

the originals

Jane the Virgin

AND here r some miscellaneous bullshit things i’m into 

i do be sewing my own clothes thats kinda a new hobby though but we fucks it 

i like baking stuff… just cookies and brownies are my favorite thing on the planet 

i play a few instruments (piano, bass, uke & guitar) but i am very not good at any of them and yes i will obnoxiously sing whenever given the chance 

i am semi obsessed with makeup because my older sister is a licensed makeup artist 

which also means i love beauty gurus my current favs are 

kathleen lights

jackie aina 

& the queen herself 

mykie aka glam and gore 

so yes i also like fx makeup and creepy tingz 

another random youtube fav of mine is drawfee 

theyre very funny and wholesome i love them dearly 

AND ALSO i am… definitely a stoner 

100% a stoner 

i love the weeds

but its not a forefront in my personality cos i am much more annoying about several other things 

AND YEAH THATS ME! i think that who i am is compiled of all the things i like, the characters i relate to and the media i let flood my senses on a day to day basis– you feel? 

anyways i hope this actually gets me somewhere instead of just mad annoying all of my followers 

I LOVE YOU ALL PLEASE BE MY FRIEND 

[wildestschemmentis]

whenever someone says that backlash doesnt work just tell them the riveting tale of supergirl showing that promo and then going radio silence for it for two weeks and EVEN CUTTING A LINE from the episode because of how bad that promo was received. socia media CHANGES THE FAITH of tv shows, look at what happened to lucifer, b99 and one day at a time. with lucifer, the fans werent just asking for another network/streaming to save the show. they were asking for better storys (f*x did a poor treatment in season 3 and everyone got upset) and then not only netflix saved the show to give it a proper final and fixed the bad storylines but now they want to give more seasons to the show. so tell me how cw, a network that only cares about their online presence, its not hearing fans? sure. they are still homophobic as the day comes and dont give screentime to their trans character and their black lesbian character just to proper up a dude who just got here and NOBODY CARES and to proper up a character that wasnt missed in the show but when it comes to money, they will listen. the show didnt trended for a single day after that promo, there were bad reviews everywhere, they uploaded the promo in two different youtube channels and got 2k of dislikes in both of them. NOT EVEN CIS WHITE DUDES are buying that whole forced romance thing (just the anti supercorp brigade is shipping it out of spite) so they obviously saw of all of it to the point were they cute kara saying that ‘’i havent feel like that in a long time’’ line. 

sure they will still go for Kara and the beatle no one cares about for more homophobic reasons but billy isnt a character that is staying longer than a season and a half so him being endgame w/ Kara is just pathetic at this point.

Oliver ended up with Felicity, a fan favorite.

Sara’s endgame is another fan favorite character, Ava, and their chemistry is off the roof.

Iris has been on the show since day one and is obviously Barry’s endgame. 

In blacklighting, there’s thundergrace (even tho i know the main hero is the father of one them)

Then why Kara Danvers, a woman who had to date an slave owner, doesnt deserve something epic? Why do we have to buy this bland dude who has no personality due to bad writting (we saw it last night, his only storyline from now on is gonna be puppysick in love) and was introduce as a jerk (doesnt matter if it was his disguise, ITS BAD WRITTING) why do we have to buy it when we have Lena Luthor there? A woman that Kara understands since day one, someone who has a personality since day one, someone who shared a lot of epic shit to Kara? 

This is a show about faith but i’m getting sick and tired of having to participe in backlashs everytime they fuck it up. And BTW, the backlash shouldnt be just for Supercorp, but for all the reasons i said before here. Supergirl doesnt deserve that glaad awards nomination and they damn well know it.

[bartonclinton]

tagged by @florenepugh​ & @seeleybooth​ 💖

rules: pick 5 shows, then answer the following questions, don’t cheat. tag 10 (or however many) people.

1. gossip girl 2. brooklyn nine nine 3. game of thrones 4. friends 5. lucifer

who is your favorite character in 2? jake peralta who is your least favorite character in 1? william van der woodsen!!! to this day i’m still bitter about his ending..i’m convinced he literally didn’t do a single redeeming thing on the show lol  what is your favorite episode of 4? the one with the proposal :’) who is your favorite couple in 3? my fave duo is sansa & tyrion but if it’s a canon couple then jaime & brienne who is your favorite couple in 2? jake & amy  what is your favorite episode of 1? 4x02 has always been a fave of mine bc of the angst and the paris train station scene what is your favorite episode of 5? ooh that’s too hard i can’t choose lol  what is your favorite season of 2? it’s still ongoing but i’m LOVING season 7 so far how long have you watched 1? oh wow since i started this blog! it’s the reason i joined tumblr how did you become interested in 3? a couple of my good friends recommended it to me who is your favorite actor in 4? i love the entire cast to pieces!! their real-life friendships give me life which do you prefer, 1, 2, or 5? oof idk i love them all <3 my current fave is probably b99 but then i’ll go back to hardcore obsessing over lucifer when it comes back. and gossip girl has a special place in my heart just bc it’s basically my nostalgic trashy fave, haha which show have you seen more episodes of, 1 or 3? i’ve seen all the episodes from both! although i wish i hadn’t seen the GoT ending lmao if you could be anyone from 4, who would you be? probably chandler i relate to him the most & i adore him would a crossover between 3 and 4 work? lol not really  pair two characters in 1 who would make an unlikely but strangely okay couple? i have no idea i feel like most of the unlikely couples actually happened at some point on gg, as is the case for all dramatic af teen shows lmao overall, which show has the better storyline, 3 or 5? lucifer which has the better theme music, 2 or 4? friends! the theme song is iconic

tagging @anneshirlei @daenerystargaryes @downey-robert @nessa007 @smilecapsules @stardustony @lucks-eterna @ultravioletcas @rose-tylers @clintfbarton if you feel like doing this :))

[lemonflavouredspatula]

Tag Game

rules: answer 20 questions, then tag 20 others.

tagged by @bananase221 (about 75 years ago, sorry and thank you love)

NAME:

Lucy

NICKNAME(S):

Luce, Loopy, Lucifer, Satan (my name means the same as Lucifer, there is method to the madness lmao)

ZODIAC:

Capricorn

HEIGHT:

5’9″ (i think???)

LANGUAGES SPOKEN:

I only speak English fluently but i know very tiny bits of Italian, Spanish and Norwegian (mostly because of my unhealthy love of eurovision and elite/skam) 

NATIONALITY:

British

FAVOURITE SEASON:

Autumn

FAVOURITE FLOWER:

hmmm idk i guess i like sunflowers but tbh i like a daisy too (yes i know it’s technically a weed) but i just appreciate nature, i don’t really have a favourite flower oops

FAVOURITE SCENT:

The smell when it’s rained is probably by far my favourite, but freshly cut grass and the smell when you blow out a candle are up there, and i love a vanilla candle and also pumpkins, the smell when you’re carving pumpkins and then when there’s a tea light inside, heavenly (i now realise fire connects quite a few of these things and i would like to take this moment to publicly announce that i am not, in fact, an arsonist)

FAVOURITE COLOUR:

Black (just brings me comfort what can i say)

FAVOURITE ANIMAL:

Dogs but also dolphins and sloths

FAVOURITE FICTIONAL CHARACTER(S):

oh boy here we go - 

Steve Harrington, Billy Hargrove, Jim Hopper, Joyce Byers, Mr Clark (Stranger Things)

Gabriel Varma, Lydia Fonseca (The Good Karma Hospital) (ok no just every single character in this beautiful show, i can’t choose)

Merlin, Arthur Pendragon, Gwaine (Merlin)

Lucifer, Maze, Trixie (Lucifer)

Jake Peralta, Captain Holt, Rosa Diaz (B99)

Omar, Ander, Nadia, Guzmán (Elite)

basically just went for my favourite characters in my favourite shows lmao and tbh i’m probably forgetting loads but hey ho

COFFEE, TEA OR HOT CHOCOLATE:

Hot Chocolate

AVERAGE SLEEP HOURS:

oh god my sleep pattern is awful, i mean out of lockdown i start work at 7am and barely go to sleep before 1am so that says a lot lmao, but at the minute i’ve blown any kind of pattern out of the water, i mean last night i was up till gone 5am and then woke up at like 10:30 lmao, i can do 8 hours or 4, there is literally no in between 

DOG OR CAT PERSON:

Dogs all the way

NUMBER OF BLANKETS YOU SLEEP WITH:

In winter i have two as well as a duvet, in the hellish summer months i just spend the whole night dying and failing to sleep so none

DREAM TRIP:

honestly i want to see everywhere, i have a real urge to just see all of the hidden gems of the world, but if anything i really want to travel around Scandinavia and Italy

BLOG ESTABLISHED:

been here since august of 2013 i believe and no i can’t believe i’ve stuck with this hellsite for so long either

FOLLOWERS:

448 (when the fuck did that happen holy shit)

RANDOM FACT:

I’m part metal, literally :)) (no seriously, i have metal plates in my knees because i had very wonky legs lmao)

Tagged @harringtons-bf @memes-saved-me @wndasmaximoffs @harringrovetrashh @pieceofcrumbcake @coffeedumpling (i know it’s not 20, fight me) and literally anyone else who wants to do it, i tag you all (but feel free to ignore too lmao)

[aimeegbbs]

OTP TAG

i was tagged by @grvywaren and @hugunderthestars thank you both!! 💙

i’m tagging @247-series @forbescaroline @clarkegriffinblake @jasperjoordan (feel free to ignore)

pick 10 of your otps from different fandoms without reading the questions and then answer them. then tag 10 other people to do the same.

isak and even (skam)

bellamy and clarke (the 100)

magnus and alec (shadowhunters)

david and matteo (druck)

katniss and peeta (the hunger games)

amy and jake (b99)

joana and cris (skam españa)

piper and alex (orange is the new black)

lucifer and chloe (lucifer)

grizz and sam (the society)

(this isn’t all of my fav ships because that list would be too long and the list isn’t in any particular order)

do you remember the episode/scene/chapter that you first started shipping 6?

i enjoyed their dynamic right away but the first time i caught myself rooting for them was “the bet” when jake took her on that horrible date but they obviously ended up having a great time. 

have you ever read a fic about 2?

i haven’t in a few months, but i used to read a lot of bellarke fics around the time s3 was airing

has a picture of 4 ever been your screensaver/profile pic/tumblr?

they’ve been my twitter icon once. does that count?

if 7 were to suddenly break up today, what would your reaction be?

RIOT!! the only official wlw couple in the skamverse (so far) is not allowed to ever break up

why is 1 so important?

oh wow, i don’t even know how or where to start... isak’s story means a lot to me because he’s this closeted gay boy who’s been through a lot in the past year. he seems like this fuckboy when he’s actually just a really soft boy who wants to be loved for who he is. and then even gives him exactly that. and despite isak unknowingly hurting even, he also manages to give even exactly what he needs and love even for who is. i could cry thinking and their love story... also they’re meant to be in every universe and we’re living in a world where we already got to see some of the other universes. so yeah, they’re important because they give hope and beautiful representation.

which one has the strongest bond?

once upon a time i would’ve said bellarke but now i think it’s malec, evak and davenzi. they all radiate major soulmate energy

how many times have you read/watched 10′s fandom?

once

which ship has lasted the longest?

i guess jake and amy? i’m thinking it could also be alex and piper but they were broken up at one point and i’m not sure how long their break up lasted i’m bad at this adjshshs

how many times, if ever, has 6 broken up?

never and it better stays that way

If the world was suddenly thrust into a zombie apocalypse, which ship would make it out alive: 2 or 8?

bellarke for sure!! they literally lived in space and survived the ending of the world twice... they could handle zombies without trouble. piper and alex though? not so much...

did 7 ever have to hide their relationship for any reason?

they kept their relationship quiet in the beginning before cris came out to her friends and then at school but they didn’t really have to hide it... although maybe cris hiding their relationship from her parents?

is 4 still together?

of course they’re soulmates

is 10 canon?

yeah, but i’m actually not sure how their exact relationship status is i need s2

if all 10 ships were put into a couple’s hunger games, which couple would win?

adjshshs the irony of this. i mean katniss and peeta actually won them?? but i feel like bellarke and malec would be a tough competition for them

has anyone ever tried to sabotage 5?

oh boy, yeah... but even after peeta got hijacked by the capitol those two still found their way back to each other

do you spend hours a day going through 3′s tumblr tag?

i used to when the show was still airing, yeah. nowadays not sm anymore, just when i really miss them.

if an evil witch descended from the sky and told you that you had to pick one of the ten ships to break forever or else she’d break them all up, which ship would you SINK?

RUDE but piper and alex tbh. i was having a hard time shipping them after s3, but they managed to get me invested in them again only for that shitty storyline in the last season. i still love them but they’re the ones i could see most likely breaking up

[eowima]

rules: pick 5 shows, then answer the following questions. don’t cheat. tag some people.

Thanks for tagging me, @forasecondtherewedwon :D

Brooklyn 99

Leverage

Lucifer

Doctor Who

Friends

who is your favorite character in 2? Definitely Parker, but a very close tie with Eliot because hello.

who is your least favorite character in 1? This is hard, they’re all genius :O hmmmm if I really had to choose one I’d say... Charles, but it breaks my heart to even say it.

what is your favorite episode of 4? Season 4, episode 8: Silence in the Library (classic I know)

what is your favorite season of 5? Tough one again, I’d say season 4 just because LONDON BABY!

who is your favorite couple in 3? Am I allowed to say Lucifer and Candy? xD I liked Candy, she was fun

who is your favorite couple in 2? Definitely Hardison and Eliot LOL

what is your favorite episode of 1? Oooooh, difficult! Hmmm, the Peraltiago fan in me screams Season 2, Episode 23 “Johnny and Dora” because that kiss at the end ahhhhhhh One of my favorite kiss ever

what is your favorite episode of 5? :O I have no idea!!! Hmmm... I really like that episode where Rachel is not in labor despite the fact that it’s over her due date, and then she finally is in labor but it still takes AGES, because I can totally relate to that. So Season 8, episodes 22/23

what is your favorite season of 2? I haven’t watched it for so long, in my mind pretty much all the episodes are absolutely amazing, and since we binge-watched it when we didn’t have kids yet, the seasons are all blending together LOL so I really don’t know. We’ve agreed with the hubby that it was time for a rewatch! :D

how long have you watched 1? Two or three years? I have no idea LOL

how did you become interested in 3? Saw the add ONE MILLION TIMES on Netflix and finally gave in (worth it, Lucifer is an amazing show.)

who is your favorite actor in 4? Ooooooh I really really love Matt Smith, but I’ll have to go with Karen Gillan ♥

which do you prefer, 1, 2, or 5? THE IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE. Ahhhhh, ohhhhh, hmmmmm okay, Brooklyn 99 I think (I feel so bad for the other two, I love them so much LOL)

which show have you seen more episodes of, 1 or 3? I’VE SEEN ALL OF THEM. No wait, not the last one from B99. But it has to be Brooklyn 99 again because there are more episodes and seasons.

if you could be anyone from 4, who would you be? River Song :D Best character EVER.

would a crossover between 3 and 4 work? Definitely!! Would be interesting too I think! The doctor could make a pit-stop in LA and fight demons alongside Maze and Lucifer and all the others, that’d be pretty fun :D

pair two characters in 1 who would make an unlikely but strangely okay couple? Ummmm, I don’t know, my first thought was Hitchcock and Scully but they kinda are already a couple aren’t they? 

overall, which show has the better storyline, 3 or 5? I’d say Lucifer, but it really doesn’t make sense to compare two things so entirely different haha but Friends kinda got lost for a season or two at some point, storyline wise. 

which has better theme music, 2 or 4? Oh my, they’re both so cool :O After very careful deliberation, I’d say Leverage’s theme is extremely amazing and so that’s what I’m going with. I mean, listen to this, isn’t it brilliant? That being said, I had the Doctor Who theme as my alarm clock for several years, so yeah. Amazing way to wake up by the way, WAKE UP, ALL ABOARD THE TARDIS FOR AN AMAZING ADVENTURE IN TIME AND SPACE (instead of you know, wake up you have to go to class you lazy ass LOL)

I’m tagging: @fargone5 @machiavelien-main​ and @ctrls if you guys want :D or anyone who wants to do it really

[johnnydora]

pick five shows, then answer the following questions, don’t cheat. tag 10 (or however many) people. tagged by @dmigod ily

greys anatomy

lucifer

brooklyn 99

odaat

stranger things

1. who is your favorite character in 2?

BITCH idk theyre all my!! children!! either lucifer or ella

2. who is your least favorite character in 1?

HFMEUFRAKES THERES SO MANY i guess i rly dont give a shit about deluca

3. what is your favorite episode of 4?

oooooooooh either valentines day or the first time (ty odaat for conveniently titled eps)

4. what is your favorite season of 5?

fuck shit goddammit ALL OF THEM maybe 3 bc im soft for robin

5. who is your favorite couple in 3?

finally an easy question peraltiago

6. who is your favorite couple in 2?

lucifer/chloe also easy thanks

7. what is your favourite episode of 1?

UM i literally have no idea do u know how many episodes there are

8. what is your favorite episode of 5?

ffs idk ok!!!! maybe in s1 when everyone gets together? either the last or second to last ep

9. what is your favorite season of 2?

uhhhhh the first season probably? or season 3

10. how long have you watched 1?

i think i started in 2017??

11. how did you become interested in 3?

OKAY i saw a gif on tumblr actually it was the scene where jakes undercover as the like eco friendly guy on the corner? thats still the BEST FUCKING JOKE OK

12. who is your favorite actor in 4?

is there any other answer than rita moreno

13. which do you prefer, 1, 2, or 5?

stranger things for sure

14. which show have you seen more episodes of, 1 or 3 ?

i mean greys wins solely bc it has more episodes

15. if you could be anyone from 4, who would you be?

uhhh syd so i could make out with elena lmao

16. would a crossover between 3 and 4 work?

i mean it COULD but steph and melissa exist in both worlds nfrjevrw

17. pair two characters in 1 who would make an unlikely but strangely okay couple?

meredith and cristina

18. overall, which show has the better storyline, 3 or 5?

i have to say stranger things just bc it literally has a storyline whereas b99 is yknow a comedy

19. which has the better theme music, 2 or 4?

odaat 100%

tagging: @thesonofneptune @cheddar-the-dog @jokeperatla @amyscascadingtabs @holygreund @capnperaltiago @mytholgie

[themaddestofall]

I was tagged by the lovely @catthecoder, thank you luv!  🖤

Pick 5 shows, then answer the following questions, don’t cheat. Tag 10 (or however many) people. 

1. Lucifer

2. Riverdale

3. Brooklyn 99

4. Criminal Minds

5. Glee

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1. Who is your favorite character in 2?  Almost definitely Betty Cooper! I love her growth since season one and the fact that she is a very human character. I love my cute lil Betts. Lili is a stunning actress that wows me in every single episode. My close second is Mr sassy himself, Jughead Jones. 

2. Who is your least favorite character in 1? Now, this is a hard one. Eve was really pissing my off for the majority of season 4, but I don’t really hate her. So...Dan. I really really don’t like Dan. He’s just not the greatest person.

3. What is your favorite episode of 4? Lets start this by saying..I love Criminal Minds. Iv’e probably seen every episode at least twice. My fav episode is actually a two part-er. ( 6x17, 6x18) They’re called Valhalla, and Lauren. Without getting in to extreme detail, they’re about Agent Prentiss’ undercover operation from before she was in the BAU. 

4. What is you’re favorite season of 5? I’ll be the first to say it, Glee isn’t the best show, but I watched it with my sister years back so I still have a special place in my heart for it. As for favorite season, I would go with two. There was moderately less insane plot twists and the musical numbers were great. The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Iv’e Had the Time of My Life, Heads Will Roll/Thriller, Losing My Religion, Valerie, When I get You Alone...okay I’ll stop.

5. Who is your favorite couple in 3? Peraltiago, no questions asked

6. Who is your favorite couple in 2? Bughead!!! Without a single doubt.

7. What is your favorite episode of 1? I binged the entire thing in a few weeks with my sister, so everything blurred together, but I really loved the alternate dimension episode, (3x26, Once Upon A Time) seeing how everything would be different was really cool. Also, the season 4 finale was heartbreaking.

8. What is your favorite episode of 5? The Quarterback episode (5x03) is really sad and one of the greats, but my favorite is probably either The Break Up, 4x04, or Never Been Kissed, 2x06

9. What is your favorite season of 2? I always say 1 when I get asked this. I really like the vibe of season one and it was just so..intriguing. However, I also really like the craziness of season 2. The breakup/striptease/mad world episode (House of the Devil, 2x08) will forever be one of my favs. 

10. How long have you watched 1? Seriously only about 2 maybe 3 weeks. It was recommended to me by friends, my brother, and some lovely ladies on Discord were screaming about it. I’m finished with it, and honestly don’t know how I’m gonna wait for season 5. 

11. How did you become interested in 3? My Tumblr was full of gifs from B99 and I didn't know what it was. I saw that it was a sitcom cop show so I tried it out, and a few weeks later, I had watched the entire thing. 

12. Who is your favorite actor in 4? i really like Shemar Moore simply because he can be the big bad agent but also give stellar emotional scenes, but Matthew Gray Gubler is the level of strange that I aspire to be. 

13. Which do you prefer, 1, 2, or 5? Jeez man, hard questions here. I would have to go with my Riverdale babies. 

14. Which have you seen more episodes of, 1 or 3? So, I did the math..cause I’m like that, and there are a lot more episodes of B99 than Lucifer, so I’d go with Brooklyn 99. 

15. If you could be anyone from 4, who would you be? Um... probably Prentiss. I’d honestly love to be in a BAU unit, and maybe I will, cause it’s part of the plan. I love her personality. 

16. Would a crossover between 3 and 4 work? Honestly, yea. I can see there being a string of murders and Captain Ray calling in for help. I would be a hilarious juxtaposition of dark and gloomy and sitcom. 

17. Pair two characters in 1 who would make and unlikely but strangely okay couple? Lucifer and Ella being friends is unlikely simply because of their personalities, but I love them. As for couples, I’s love to see interaction between Ella and Maze. I just really love Ella. 

18. Overall, which show has the better storyline, 3 or 5? Almost definitely 3. I’ll take a sitcom cop show over Glee anyday, (Most days, okay)

19. Which has the better theme music, 2 or 4? Riverdale doesn’t really have theme music? But the opening credit sound bite is really cool. Criminal Minds has the opening song, but I’ll go with Riverdale for this one. 

Jeez, I love doing these! Special thanks to @catthecoder again for tagging me! I’m gonna tag @theheavycrown @endlesswriter03 and @srainebuggie !!! (if you guys have already done it, feel free to ignore my ramblings)

[grahamslecters]

rules: Pick 5 shows, then answer the following questions. don’t cheat. tag 10 (or however many) peeps.

my shows:

1. The 100

2. Brooklyn nine nine

3. Merlin

4. iZombie

5. Lucifer

Questions under the cut bc I know someone watching Merlin and is on s1 and someone *cough cough* Shae *cough cough* who NEEDS to watch it.

questions:

1. who is your favorite character in 2?

Jake Peralta. Without him the show wouldn't be what it is, but they are all. great 

2. who is your least favorite character in 1?

Abby or Finn. But, probably Abby.

3. what is your favorite episode of 4?

There are so many good ones. like SO MANY. But 3x11 is so funny and I just watched it in my rewatch so.. that one.

4. what is your favorite season of 5?

Season 3. The show was just brought to a whole new level that season

5. who is your favorite couple in 3?

Merthur. Can I say Merthur? I’m going to say Merthur

6. who is your favorite couple in 2?

Peraltiago. *insert Jake saying no doubt gif here*

7. what is your favorite episode in 1?

if you don’t know that it is 6x10 do you really know me?

8. what is your favorite episode of 5?

City of Angels? - it was really cool to see past them. 

9. what is your favorite season of 2?

Season 5 was so so good. So that one probably

10. how long have you watched 1?

I joined the show in the hiatus between s1 and s2. 

11. how did you become interested in 3?

I saw a British show about magic on Netflix. Need I say more?

12. who is your favorite actor in 4?

They are all so so good. But the fact that Rose McIver (liv) manages to play the same character but with a different personality EVERY. SINGLE. EPISODE. That is next level. 

13. which do you prefer, 1, 2, or 5?

The 100. This show is pretty much a major factor in my life and the fact that it is ending (even if it for the right reasons) might just break me.

14. which show have you seen more episodes of, 1 or 3?

The 100. But I have watched (and rewatched) them both fully.

15. if you could be anyone from 4, who would you be?

Peyton. She is a badass and human. 

16. would a crossover between 3 and 4 work?

When Merlin finally decides let Arthur be the once and future king who will rise again and they have a modern day reboot then sure. I think Clive and Arthur would probably get along quite well

17. pair two characters in 1 that would make an unlikely but strangely okay couple

Niytavia. When Niylah gave Octavia the Iliad I was gone. 

18. Overall, which story has the better storyline, 3 or 5?

This is sooo. hard. But I would die for Merlin so it has to be Merlin

19. which has the better theme music, 2 or 4?

iZombie. 100%. B99s was good to listen to once. But, iZombie is one of the only shows I will actually be okay listening to the theme music for. 

I was tagged by the lovely @shaeheda

tagging: @broashwhat , @detectivebellamyblake , @octaviadblake , @niyennor , @wankadi , @mmstorytracker , @nathansmillers , @linctavia  , @lameblake , @allthingsfandom101 .

[catthecoder]

i was tagged by the amazing @livingtheb99peraltiagolife 💕 thanks dear!!

Pick 5 shows, then answer the following questions, don’t cheat. Tag 10 (or however many) people.

1. riverdale

2. shadowhunters

3. brooklyn 99

4. the flash

5. lucifer

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1. Who is your favourite character in 2? alec lightwood! i simply adore his character growth from the insecure and closeted puppy into a strong and confident man, happily married to the love of his life and holding one of the most important positions of power in the shadow world. plus, have you seen matthew daddario? no? then please, do yourself a favour and go and take a look.

2. Who is your least favourite character in 1? you want me to pick one? wow, okay, this is hard. i’ll probably have to go with Alice... there’s just something about her that pisses me off more than any other character does.

3. What is your favourite episode of 4? my favourite flash episode, hmm.. i would probably say flash back (2x17)... the reverse flash has always been my favourite villain and i just adored him (and the entire plot) in this episode.

4. What is your favourite season of 5? well, considering i binged the entire show in like two weeks, the differences between the seasons are a bit blurry to me... but i’d probably go with the first, because i just simply loved seeing lucifer and chloe’s relationship at the start (and i’m still loving it, but the beginning was amazing)

5. Who is your favourite couple in 3? peraltiago all the way.

6. Who is your favourite couple in 2? malec!! those two own my heart and soul.

7. What is your favourite episode of 1? i don’t think i have a favourite riverdale episode?? but probably 3x05, the great escape. i loved jughead’s gargoyle obsession, i loved the jail-breakout, i loved betty in a leather jacket riding a bike. yeah, that episode ticked a lot of boxes for me.

8. What is your favourite episode of 5? wow, this one is hard. i really enjoyed season four finale who’s da new king of hell? (4x10) because of the heartbreaking ending or boo normal (3x25) because i simply love ella and this episode was so much fun + the plot twist at the end?? yes please. so probably one of those.

9. What is your favourite season of 2? either 1 or 3. or maybe 2. (can i pick all three?)

10. How long have you watched 1? a year and something? i have started somewhere mid season 2b, but i don’t remember when.

11. How did you become interested in 3? i think one of my friends mentioned it? that’s just a guess, i honestly have no idea.

12. Who is your favourite actor in 4? probably grant gustin. or tom cavanagh. they both give so impressive performances.

13. Which do you prefer, 1, 2, or 5? considering two of those shows are cancelled, i’ll probably have to go with number 1, riverdale (but honestly, right now, i’m the biggest hoe for shadowhunters (2)).

14. Which show have you seen more episodes of, 1 or 3 ? well, i have seen entire brooklyn99 twice at least, so i’ll have to go with that.

15. If you could be anyone from 4, who would you be? i’d love to be cisco, he’s so smart and talented and funny and i love his powers (i was heartbroken after the last episode, alright?) but powers or not, i still love him and would pick him.

16. Would a crossover between 3 and 4 work? probably not, considering one of them is a sitcom and one of them is a fantasy, but i’d love to see them try! maybe 99th precinct could team up with ccpd on a case? i imagine jake’s reaction to meeting flash would be hilarious. you know what, scratch that negative comment i made at the beginning - it would totally work!!

17. Pair two characters in 1 who would make an unlikely but strangely okay couple? hot dog and archie. (you’ve all thought about it, don’t even try to argue!)

18. Overall, which show has the better storyline, 3 or 5? this is a surprisingly hard choice... but i’ll have to say 5? both of them are basically cop shows, and i love b99 with my entire heart, but lucifer has the supernatural spin (and i’m a hoe for that).

19. Which has the better theme music, 2 or 4? i don’t think flash really has theme music? i love the song they used with nora scenes this year (barry’s scientist theme), but i’ll definitely have to give this one to shadowhunters. although i don’t like the opening song that much, it’s by ruelle and she has done so many super amazing tracks for the show.

this was so much fun omg! i’m tagging @themaddestofall @writeraquamarinara @psychobetts and @shrugheadjonesthethird (if you guys have already done it, feel free to ignore)

[elizabethrobertajones]

14x02 watching notes

I appear to be fully booked for the whole weekend through to Tuesday so this may be the only thing I post about the episode until then, hope you all are having as much fun as Cas will at the party he’s apparently gonna throw to prove he’s cooler than all the other angels.

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*readjusts my beanbag chair from Professional Sloucher to Serious Typing Mode* It's 5:13am and I've been awake 45 minutes watching this thing download and paused the new Adventure Zone episode for this... Mittens assures me it's well-recieved, so I'll go ahead and assume we burned enough sage to ward off the worst of whatever happens to their episodes...

Or, of course, Speight is directing.

So, expectations are pretty nebulous, because at this point in the story I really don't have demands, hopes or fears, except maybe that Buckleming don't handle or if they do, don't maul having Dean back. I DO miss Dean. It's very possible if he showed up in this episode everyone loves it because Dean-o is back.

I've never voluntarily called him Dean-o before. I think Gabriel's influence over the season is contagious.

Speaking of which... *hits play*

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Are we getting a recap of Christian Keyes getting smushed because he, also, is alive? (er, the vessel, I mean) It would balance out Nick a great deal but it's also almost too much to ask I feel

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14x01 recap: good, no sign of wirework. 14x02 recap: bad, everyone is levitating.

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Also hilarious - no recap whatsoever of the past episode, because we have entered the Buckleming AU. Which is either Speight's shade or Buckleming's hubris that they don't need no canon to tell them what to do.

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Nice. Creepy. Good start, sir. 10/10 would immediately go over and try and play that cursed piano despite my fear I would die instantly.

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asdhdjsfkdsf the detail that Mikey took  his hat off and a dramatic shot of it sitting there with the same reverent detail as the other spooky things from the rest of the intro shots

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Interestingly the vampire that Mikey is bleeding is presented in much the same way as Lucifer was in 13x21, left to just stand there and dribble essence from the neck which making small choking noises. This is either stuck pig imagery, or the suggestion from unknown powers that be directing this to suggest that the entire Lucifer concept is being bled dry by wringing Nick out of it too.

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This isn't going to end well.

While he's doing that, I would like to ask if that's a smidge of his own grace, or if he went and found Metatron's or something.

It also is very reminiscent of Lucifer creating demons - experimenting and playing to create the worst of the worst. Alastair and Lilith had white eyes and Lilith could do some sort of evil smite. The first demon, and the only one we've ever seen do that. Fandom long headcanoned that Lucifer used his own grace to make her, and it makes sense in a weird way that as he gets more corrupt, so do his creations - from pure white-eyed demons to murky yellow eyes to red and pitch black. Also: get more stupid. Azazel is the best and smartest, and each YED we met, if we assume they're in age order... Asmodeus is so dumb as a pile of rocks that you have to assume Lucifer realised that whatever he did to perfect the recipe in Azazel was tapering off and the good good stuff was over, so no more YEDs before you find out what Asmodeus's little sibling would have been like. His next known canonical attempt to make a demon isn't using his own grace, but using the Mark of Cain to corrupt, er, Cain.

Mikey is falling into this exact same nonsense from the opposite direction of his brother, AU or otherwise - humans are bad, corrupt evil things are better because they're less complicated and as an angel, humans give me a headache. Michael seems at least to have believed that there were good people - if he could just flipping find them - and that if he smote all the sinners maybe some good people would be left. It's coming at the same conclusion from opposite problems - he has earnestly sought out the best in humanity and then ended up scouring even the worst like Kip and those killers he mentioned, and finally settled on monsters, Eve's corruptions of humanity into bloodthirsty creatures motivated only by hunger. And now he's playing with them and using his own power to corrupt them further.

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PS: Eve is going to be SO PISSED

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That IS a very effective way to smite a vampire.

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He's very clean and efficient and while he's "getting his hands dirty" in the metaphorical sense, there's a very careful remove in the actions we see on screen, of him standing watching very impartially.

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He also sounds a shade more Dean-ish in that quip, and let's just go ahead and assume that the quip unlocked Dean a lil, or else that being in this vessel so long is beginning to wear on Michael - the influence goes both ways, and it's like seeing Captain Holt from B99 crack and quip, except this is the lawful evil version.

Plus, the flippy flippy and all... He's getting comfortable. I bet Michael might have been able to do SOME cool flip with a knife but trust me, you're possessing the second most blade flippy guy on this planet, second only to his husband, so that's a full perk of being in the Michael Sword and nothing else.

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No one has asked Cas how he feels about AU Bobby, which is weird because he and Bobby were BFFs back in the day.

Trust me, it happened off screen. Sometimes Cas flapped up smelling like whiskey and cigarette smoke and Dean would be like dammit did you just come from poker night with Bobby and I wasn't invited?

(True behind the scenes details from season 5)

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AUBobby wants a beach vacation as much as Dean does, though. Well, he wants to hunt by the sea.

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Okay I never knew "veracity" could be used as a synonym for "voracity" but google assures me that people are literally just really lazy about it because I THOUGHT AUBobby meant voracity, but he SAID veracity, and I was like, why is he saying angels aren't known for telling the truth??? and then my other part of my brain that is more sensible but works slower caught up with the context... This language is stupid. I apologise to second language speakers for that line. It was said "veracity" but it means "voracity" because we are a garbage culture, as english speakers as a whole.

So yeah, angels aren't known for their partying, no offence, party!Cas.

This is now 2x between here and 13x20 that Cas has been directly accused of not partying, plus how he went to a party in 13x22 even if he stood stock still the entire time, so I have to assume that the rise of party!Cas is gaining narrative and symbolic momentum and we WILL see him kicking back by the end of the season.

"None taken, I tend to agree with you." TEND, as in, other angels are stuffy assholes who never party, but I, party!Cas, have stood with my arms by my side and a stoic expression, all through your welcome to paradise!earth party, so *I* am in fact, cool.

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He misses those poker nights. Ellen and Jo taught him well.

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AUBobby has a perhaps Jim Beaver-honed response to "it's Dean" when worrying about what's up with it. Or, of course, as much as he may have come to like the guy since the AU rescue, this was still a lil test of why they had to be concerned, leaving it to him as the one guy in the room who is still getting to know him, to say what is unspoken by everyone else.

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Sam then prompts Cas to give us some clunky exposition on why he can't come, because Michael will sense him.

Buckleming, you literally are the ones who say Cas down in a chair and had him tattooed to ward him against angels. That was your thing. You did that. You.

It may be a sign of improvement that Cas is being left behind with specific explanations for why, but it's still hard to read Misha's expression as between Cas Is Sad He Can't Go Near Dean, which is crazy he's not putting up a fight and going anyway, and I Have To Say This Line To Explain It And They Don't Teach You How To Say Bad Exposition In Drama School.

"Yeah sorry"

This deserved at least 2 more lines of contention and scowling, or, of course, Sam proposing this to Cas on the spot, or Cas himself regretfully announcing that he had to do it to give them the best chance in a self-sacrificing way, then rationalising it with having to stay behind to babysit.

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Cas just said Jack wasn't an infant. He's a year old. He's barely even a toddler yet. You really read that many parenting books and don't know that?

Okay yeah. Anyway lumping Nick and Jack together as charges to watch - a suggestion somehow that they're a joint burden? It demeans Jack to Nick's place, in the context. Cas hasn't actually had a great deal of on-screen parenting to Jack except like 2 nice moments basically bookending the entire time they've both been alive on the show in 13x06 and 14x01, and I'm going to have to chalk this up to a lil anxiety about bonding with the sulky teen Jack that it's something Cas now feels apprehension about. He's the father who's rarely home and clocked in the least time nurturing Jack directly, while Mary has a wild lead and Sam and Dean both also a good chunk of it, with Sam pulling weeks ahead of Dean, of course.

A sense of Dad Who Is Always At Work Forced To Bond With Child While Mom(s) Are Gone, to use some heteronormative tropes, feels like it's at play. The dad who is always away on business trips is forced to spend time at home over Christmas with the kid while the other parents are on a wild vacation to Florida... What fun scrappy bonding experiences do they get up to?! :D

Of all the tropes flying around, to stick to heteronormativity, Cas has always been "the father" to Jack while others around him waver between maternal roles or not. But even in the very start, he "completed" the parental "set" with Kelly.

Is that enough airquotes to be clear I support non-traditional family structures? :P

But it puts Cas also in a place of having some of these toxic masculinty types of fatherhood, of being away for work all the time and not putting in the work for the kid or being too eager to fight and sacrifice himself than to be there. Hard as he works to protect them all, his connection IS that of the guardian angel who watches over, the one sworn to protect, who most often talks about his bond to Jack under that obligation and that promise to Kelly, the sense of a duty to protect Jack, but very little in the way Sam especially fell hard on the side of "nurture" in the nature vs nurture debate and put in all the emotional labour associated with the mother in traditional parenting structures.

(This was good for Sam to do considering Dean had done it for him, and because Dean did it for him - being both mother and father - he's largely exempt and can dip in and out of how he parents Jack with impunity, given he had his moment about this in 12x22, days before Jack was born, and was therefore freed from character arcs grappling with it in the same way)

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Cas is like "Nick is a MESS" same, buddy.

"He was housing, he deserves a shot at rebuilding his life" Sam is talking about himself here, which is weird because Nick was the topic of discussion a moment ago

I feel weird that Sam is admonishing Cas here, because Cas has not lain on the floor and thrown a tantrum about not going to save Dean, as ungrateful as he is being about babysitting Nick... it's making a weird conflict between Cas and Sam which is now veering into a philosophical argument about Nick, which makes me feel that if this is not just weird Buckleming dialogue issues where they find it hard not to write things as a conflict, Sam and Cas haven't had the rosy bro bonding time together while Dean is gone that it seemed, or that, like with Sam snapping at Mary about her optimism, Sam's in a Mode about this where he's on his last rag with everyone secretly because of lack of sleep. And Chief!Sam may also be struggling with being an authority figure among his own family, as every single one of them "outranks" him in age, parenthood, experience or scowliness, and Sam once described himself as "the least of all of you" meaning Bobby and Cas specifically of the people who in this room he'll find himself naturally deferring to. Sam's leadership is natural among the AU peeps but perhaps a struggle that with his family, he's still the leader, but there's no Dean to have the final word, and that in itself is an awful reminder, when he finds himself being the last word on a subject without Dean's input.

I have to assume this is like 5am and AUBobby showed up early to work to see Mary and the rest of the AU peeps aren't around yet

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Cas then throws in the line about how all he can see is the supreme agent of evil, which is fuckin hilarious that it was Sam's trauma yesterday and we know angels are much more likely to relate to the glowy blob possessing a face, and anyway most of Cas's worst Lucifer trauma came from being POSSESSED by him, seeing him wearing Sam's face, or being beat up by Vince fucking Vincente. You only really ever saw Lucifer as Nick in 12x23 and the last few episodes of season 13, bar like one encounter back in 5x10. That is a very very recent association.

Unless, of course, he's still MIGHTILY PISSED that Lucifer killed off 2/3rds of his poker game and that's where his "supreme evil" trauma comes from.

Let's go with that.

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Do you think Eugenie forgot that Lucifer was an hallucination in season 7, and also that Cas was dead during that?

(don't @ me about him seeing hallucifer in 7x17, he said in 7x21 that he stopped seeing hallucifer pretty quickly and I'm going with Edlund canon when in doubt :P)

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"You talking about my dad again"

Jack. Hon. You have absolutely no relation whatsoever to Nick, except via whatever family line ties him extremely vaguely to Sam as a similar vessel of Lucifer. I don't even know how to describe where that puts him on your fucked up family tree, but trust me, you don't need to worry. Biologically, you are the son of an ex-president of the united states.

But yeah, snarky!teen Jack is here in full force. I'm not sure I'm ready to deal with the baby's angsty melodrama years :'D

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Do you think

and I ask this hypothetically while full of dread that I am right

do you think Eugenie has forgotten that Jack is not Nick's biological son

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Jack getting the good good framing of standing with his back to the war room, trapped in the library, as he's grounded. This central framing demands the eye to seek out wings, but in this case they're kinda furled behind him, if you see them as the dark shadows of the room beyond.

Of course the war room/library symbolism is always a thing, that action is the former, home the the latter, so this is clever to show Jack's desire, but also that he is stuck, and we see the bar patterned lights on the floor in the war room which are used as prison imagery. Jack's effectively locked out of the war room with a baby gate.

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"Let's move," Sam says, with a virile pump of his gun, leaving Cas and Jack to feel impotent at home.

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Sam does not get the dick imagery often enough

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Blargh Nick again. Hello fuckface. Listen, I just wanna say before we get into this scene, that I've almost universally seen Mark P eyerolled at but said "at least he's a really good actor so the scenes were really good even if he sucks as a person and we hate Lucifer". I do not agree. I think he's a ham who over-acts and it was annoying as Lucifer but by this point expected and had at least transitioned slowly, but seeing Nick do the whole routine of standing up from bed, and then blowing on his stab wound and wincing and fanning it? That whole thing was just... too much for me. Nick should have been still and quiet and sad, but as soon as he started doing that it harked back to Lucifer in 13x13 when he was cold and hungry and over-acting rubbing his poor empty tum tum and rubbing his freezing arms. What made Mark P so good in season 5 was that Lucifer had a slow, cold and STILL menace to him, that while he might have gestured widely and been violent, especially in his dramatic scenes he was still and menacing. That's all gone by now and he acted Lucifer as a clown, and fair enough as an acting choice I guess when this isn't my favourite character or actor, but now it's salt in the wound that Nick was supposed to come across sad and vulnerable, and instead of bestowing some gravitas on him and taking us back to the start and actually TRYING, Mark P fell into clowning as if he thinks doing these funny things is what his fans who are apparently out there want to see, and my stretched to breaking point lie I repeated to myself about "oh he's a good actor at least" shattered because he was just playing the fool again, over-acting as if to gain cheap sympathy points, when his stillness and sadness and NOT overacting was literally the only way to have pulled Nick off without it being annoying.

This is a cake and eat it, well Lucifer is dead but I'm still here, and now I will act almost exactly the same, kind of dealio and I'm pissed and not standing by that self-comforting lie any more because every single step of the Lucifer journey so far since 11 we've placated ourselves with various phrases and concepts to make it okay to do all this but keeping Nick around is where the story breaks and so too does my patience for forgiving it.

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*Cas employs his Anti Nick Shoulders* I deeply approve of these shoulders

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Could they not give Nick, like, a sudoku book or something? He is just sitting here wallowing in having been Lucifer.

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Omg Cas is getting to use this to actually talk about himself. I'm actually liking this. Cas self-reflection is a wonderful thing. Everyone can relate to Nick, even if they hate it. Every single person will file in here and talk about themselves to Nick at some point or another.

Nick's like "why am I heeere" and Mr Giant Teddy Bear is like "I know right?"

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Wait is Nick's son called Teddy? That was unfortunate mind-melding with BL I just did. *shiver*

Also hilarious: a chosen flashback to Nick holding a teddybear beside the crib and I swear to all that is holy that Speight is deliberately implying after reading the line "Teddy" that Nick said yes to Lucifer on behalf of his wife Sarah and this bear.

I can SEE his face making a note here about what flashback to cut to.

His sparkling eyes are reflecting off this screen so much I'm getting glare from it.

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*Mark P cries a lot* There are a few little leaps in this conversation to get to the point too quickly but overall this wasn't a bad scene... Perhaps because Cas carried it enough with his sinscerity that Nick wailing was at least balanced and the directing matched the intensity of it all. Speight really is good at making things work and this was pretty brutal which means that the overacting is compensated for, and Cas inserted enough genuine emotion from an empathetic character.

It's all hovering unspoken about family where Nick does it for his wife, even if he regrets it now and feels like he has become a monster and is wracked with a guilt Cas can heavily relate to as it drove his season 12 early actions intensely, and his child. Cas also did it for family, and they give this definition of family where it could be anyone beloved in the family, so that platonic overlap is there between Cas and Nick's motivations. But implicit is that Nick's wife was the one that made him say yes, and Cas stands over Nick in much the way that Lucifer stood over him in 5x01 when appearing as Sarah. Cas is/was the wife in the scenario in a weird way to Dean, for whom he chose to be possessed to save from Amara, aka the monster that had come into the house and would kill his beloved ones in their beds.

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Promo scene! Aw AUBobby and his rusty FBI skills.

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The coroner talking about a spree killer harks to Dean's issues balancing being a serial killer with a saviour, as I talked about pre-episode with the themes connected to Dean being possessed by Michael, and channelling all the worst of him. In this case, the torture AND the wantonly killing vampires

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God damn Mary's red suit is awesome though.

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"neck wounds" I thought Mikey healed those? I guess I can see residual scarring on this body so maybe healing vampires isn't as neat as healing people, because corruption...

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"Why is an archangel hunting vampires in the first place" HAVE YOU MET DEAN? This is how he blows off steam when he gets a HANGNAIL. You think being possessed by Mikey will stop him?

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"Huh" Sam says. "huh," I say, because they actually did some Smart Detective Work to come to that conclusion and perhaps this is just because BL needed the next lead but we've never actually seen them ask this specific question about people coming to identify mystery bodies to find the next lead ever. And perhaps because even if it happens off screen it's a dead end in all their other cases, but this was still something BL wrote that put a clever concept in Sam's head, and I am at the bottom of the barrel with them when I'm complimenting them for not making the characters act like complete idiots.

The other thing is, this cuts out an entire scene of them in a motel opening a laptop and googling surveillance footage, and I don't know if they have been banned from writing the everyone sits around and googles the monster scenes, at least since they made Crowley pop in and google a photo of the president in 12x08, and then Dabb openly mocked them for it in 12x23, but it's a pacing GODSEND to have the characters act intelligent and ask questions that solve problems instead of relying on the magical answer box to tell them where to go next.

See again: low low low expectations. Whether it's Speight clean up work or they've been told off, this is great stuff, and files off a lot of the edges that make their episodes wearing on a cosmic, soul level, that between the weird content, they're also just clunky and poorly paced.

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Cas n Jack sceeeene.

It's Jack's desk! I'm so happy!!

I asked hypothetically the other day on a promo pic and I'm so happy to see Jack has his own lil desk in the library. He looks like a kid doing his homework

my heart is swelling

with all the table meta - it's another thing where they've changed stuff around to give Jack a space, a place he calls his own in this large weird Bunker. That table had to be dragged from one of the side offices or store rooms and set up for him because it's never b een there before, but now Jack has an alcove of the library he calls his own and he can sit there and do his research... And the alcoves give a sense of an enclosed room space, something comforting and like... library womb like.

The Bunker has adopted him :')

It's so weird seeing a character in this show who habitually doesn't wear a ton of layers around the Bunker - he's been in a t-shirt with nothing over it in both episodes, grey. He's young, open, honest, but hasn't found his way yet, hasn't got a tribal colour scheme. No plaid, and has only worn beige and blue in neutral Cas colours, his main father figure in a sort of aspirational sense, even if Cas is the dad who's always out on work and not there to raise his son.

Jack's identified as human in 13x23 but in a way he is a homunculous - the concept of what was originally believed to be how babies formed in a sort of medieval/rennaisance time (perhaps still is by BL) that the sperm was a tiny weeny complete person and they just got put in the womb with no other input from mommy and grew there. There's definitely a weird shade of homunculous implications in how Jack's parenthood is talked of, and of course he was then born as a fully formed man, which is a sort of transliteration of this nonsense belief, but the concept that he practically was a small adult Jack and then a big adult Jack and at no point an actual baby. Even in the womb in 12x17 we saw him turn and stare at the camera, betraying a sort of primal intelligence, the idea of a bored god waiting in the womb to be born, learning and acting from within.

And only now is he sort of set up to stop being a baby and start being a man when it comes to handling adult intellectual stuff and he's not learning from scratch but is treated like he has a more solid baseline for the world around him these days. He's learned enough to join society, but not enough to have carved his place yet. It's a very strange cusp of growth, and perhaps a good metaphor for being a teenager, in a way: that you realise you have been very stupid up to this point but now you are very smart and ready to be an adult (except, unfortunately, adult peoples will look back at this unformed humonculous version of themselves with the greasy hair and poorly understood radical political opinions and whatever, and be like, WOW, I was an idiot.)

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Oh my god are BL really going to keep writing Good Cas Lines this episode? This stuff where Cas schools Jack gently and lovingly with knowledge Jack has been up all night reading then Cas is like yeah this is stuff angels know from angel sunday school but I'll be kind about it and validate what you just read... Like, the lesson is the act of the research, more than the knowledge. It's up to Jack not to feel stupid that he did all that work and Cas was like, yeah. I knew that. I'm an angel.

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OH MY GOD Cas is actually having the chat I wanted with Jack about how he felt when he lost his grace

*shoves a fistful of popcorn in my mouth*

Jack all hurr blurr you don't understand I want to go run to my room and slam the door because I'm a teen and I have just discovered human tragedy and angst, NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF EVER HAS SUFFERED AS I HAVE

and Cas is like, *ruffles his hair* it's okay little buddy, I too was a homunculous in season 9, which Lizzy has a weird deja vu feeling she wrote about but would not for the life of her know where to find that because it was probably buried in watching notes

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"what did you have left?" "well I had Sam and Dean... but I had something else"

me: *clutches chest, gasps, hangs on tenterhooks*

Cas: "I had myself"

me: FLAILS WILDLY

Sorry, this isn't very meta, I've just written so much on the nature of grace and of Cas, and whether he has a soul or not still, but he is very much talking about the time when as a human he had a soul and was "himself" without his grace, and though he felt the loss of his POWER he didn't feel a loss of his CORE SELF, of who he is (which is an ongoing question they're all answering about themselves, with Jack Homunculous Winchester as the main example to channel the others through). It's really important to me that Cas has this core self, this certainty of who he is beyond his duty, his grace, everything that is forced on him by Heaven, but that this part of him who he may or may not know is his soul is there and filled with, well... Cas's nougat centre. Because Cas has been playing THAT game far longer than Jack has :P

"The basic me. As Dean would say, without all the bells and whistles"

Dean is reaching through Cas to mock him for us when we don't have him in the room to directly accuse Cas of having a harp, and I love that Cas loves Dean so much that he lets Dean drag him for having bells and whistles (which Cas will take literally) even though he's not here.

That's true love.

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They share what is possibly the grossest smile ever and I am going to weep to see all this fondness for each other and for Dean being expressed. Like, ugh, families loving each other and being all wholesome and sweet. What is this garbage.

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"You know, Sam and Dean... they weren't born with their expertise" yeah because they're not fuckin homunculi

Cas is basically equating Jack to going back to the start that they had, a do-over on his life, that he lived his first year as a magical all-powerful baby, but in a weird way, losing his grace makes him more settled, gives him a chance to understand himself without his power and learn that he still has a core self, a soul with all the good stuff in it, and to begin again and learn things the slow way, but a way in which he will grow more naturally and take the lessons that are needed to form the real edges to a character that turn into maturity.

"They've been at it since they were children"

and so have you. filed under: ow.

Literally no one on TFW had a normal safe happy childhood free of monsters metaphorical or otherwise.

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Anyway Cas then reminds Jack that he has to do things slow to be as good as Sam n Dean, and moves on to it's important not who you were in your past - because this fuckin one and a bit year old already has a gritty past - but who you are and what you will do with the FUTURE. And Cas still wholeheartedly believes in Jack because of Jack once showing him a vision of the future that they might have - the happy ending, world without monsters, all that jazz that Dabb era is eyeing up  hopefully.

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Oooh Mikey's going to a partyyy.

That fuckin ring on his little finger. It's coded especially in media that he's either in a cult or gay. It's such a weird lil detail for Mikey to have added to the ensemble that I almost wonder if he smited a guy to borrow it wholecloth and took every detail. Though he's a fucking fashionista so maybe he can't resist adding a detail like this.

After all he wore dirty war-torn clothes for years in the AU, but even then had a sense of grandeur about it, an over-dramatic flair with the long coat that said that he dressed well, even for the scenario, and different, standing out from the rest of his minions.

Now he's here on paradise!earth, with all the tailors you could ask for, so he's going to dress like the lord of this planet it's begging for, in all the finery you can drape his fine sword in.

Sword does not approve of bowtie.

DEAAAN! HEY! I'VE MISSED YOU ILY

"GET OUT"

"I don't think so"

WOW, RUDE. There's rules about this, buddy!

"You can't!"

"oh but I can, because, see, I own you." It IS Michael who punches the mirror... I was certain it would be Dean, but it's Michael lashing out at his angry reflection, shattering the image of Dean. What a metaphor. In the Mark of Cain arc sometimes Dean looked at himself in shattered mirrors but it was a passive shattering. This is a statement from Michael that he can see Dean and he's shattering his entire self, refusing his right of consent - in a BL episode it's ironically hilarious so long as nothing else dub con happens, that this is the actually seriously applied good use of consent stuff. And Michael talking about owning Dean - it's that presumptiveness about others' consent that was Dean's biggest downfall in putting Gadreel in Sam, the cosmic karma lashing back out at Dean that he can't punt Michael out like Sam heroically punted Gadreel out, because Michael OWNS him. Dean is historically, cosmically, always for eons before his birth, been "the Michael Sword" - a true vessel with this guy's name inscribed on the hilt, and Michael has calmly taken full possession of his ultimate weapon, because well, why not.

UGH and then Michael takes control again by way of talking into the mirror and his reflection behaving normally because he's wrangled it back into control. A+ DIRECTION, SIR.

(Also because it's not Dean - maybe it's not so much a meta detail but the expectation might be that Dean would lash out at Michael BECAUSE he's angry and lashes out and smashes mirrors so many times, but he has no control to even move an arm to lash out... He's utterly trapped, just like Cas was tied to that chair.)

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I love seeing Cas storming confidently around the Bunker running stuff while the others are out, being the one who is looking over Jack, taking the calls about their findings, and now dealing with Nick wandering in to angst some more. This is Cas at home and although it's still weird the AU peeps are ALL taking a day off coming into work after seeing how embedded they were in the hub, it's wonderful to see Cas here and without the AU peeps it is more cozy in the sense of being more like the home they privately kept.

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Nick comes in like I WANT TO SOLVE MY COLD CASE THIS IS MY RANDOM DISTRACTION FROM THE PLOT

but then Cas puts his hand on his shoulder and he flicks back to Lucifer in an instant, trying to dissolve Cas in a panic from being touched. Cas is understandably completely and utterly freaked out.

And for all our talk of Rowena and Sam and their trauma from Lucifer, of course Cas has had a lot too even though I'm kinda eye-rolly about him talking about Nick as the face of all evil, of course this episode has been about his Lucifer trauma so far. It's really interesting to see Cas rattled by something because he is so solid most of the time - last episode he exuded "fuck you" from every pore for every moment except briefly when Jack was dragged into the room. But Nick has him on edge and now there's some Buckleming fuckery afoot with ongoing vessel issues, we're seeing the very strange visual of a Cas who is legit freaked out.

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Anyway I really like how smooth this was, even with camera changes. Speight is really wringing excellence out of them, and the script, weirdly, and maybe because it's Nick so Eugenie is focused, is actually contemplative and full of interesting emotional conversations, which they often seem to blow off whatever the brief. Even with the dialogue hindrances, the real meaning and depth is being plumbed by the scenes as a whole.

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So yeah, here is where I have to grudgingly say MarkP can play evil kinda well but also considering, again, FOUNDER OF THE AMERICAN CAPITALIST PARTY? This is his calling, and he is a caracture of the man who plays the devil.

And this is something rather scary and sinister about what's going on with him which genuinely is played with some of that season 5 gravitas, which is super weird to see because I have got so used to him being a clown, even in his previous episode.

I have to say, due to that, I give Speight a lot of credit because he's really, really good at his job.

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"What went through your head just now?" I ask that a lot, and thanks for the reaction gif, Eugenie.

I need very little prompting to assume you are writing Nick and Brad is writing the rest.

Nick is a fine line of guilty and confused, and hiding his intent, either because he doesn't know, or he DOES. It's good. Credit where credit's due.

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"Some of his influence still within you" it's CRUEL to give that line to misha.

Kinda meta that there's a cockles joke from an old JIB or something about "influence" as jizz and 13x21 and all the jokes about Gabriel's grace.

But we're getting to a 9x11 parallel in the structure of the episode, but Cas is left behind with Nick rather than Sam, and Sam gets to be out there looking for his brother... And of course Dean within Michael experiences a shattering greater than the Mark of Cain did to him...

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"Lucifer may have inflicted more damage on your psyche" yeah no shit we were warning you he would have the Hallucifers

Cas does the most terrified slow shoulder touch ever - there's a real right shoulder wrong shoulder thing going on. Last episode he clasped Jack on the correct (left) shoulder, and this time he tries to touch Nick on the right and nearly gets smote, and then this touch is on the same, as he discerns what's wrong with Nick, and I get a mirror of 11x11 where Lucifer did the wrong shoulder touch to Dean, and have him the only inkling something was up with Cas, that Dean shrugged off because, ow.

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Anyway white man has angst. Nick has the Hallucifers and he has to find out who killed his family. He's got like his entire own TV show premise of nonsense going on here and it's going to be crammed in between everything else.

Bet you anything real monsters did it

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"And then what

Dude's got nothing to live for

we're so over these murdered wife revenge arcs

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The old flipperoo of it being terrifying for a monster when 3 scary hunters bust in weapons drawn. The vampire has a terrible apartment and she didn't even get a new car - it's like she went from one crappy life to the next and the only thing that changed was she was now a miserable vampire. I'm sympathetic to her for now :')

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Oh look how surprising, this side of the story is being 2x03 still - aside from AUBobby snarking that vampires "never do" anything wrong, in the position of one who never learned a grey area because lower Winchester exposure, the vamps are feeding on animal blood, and mourning the loss of their nest. This is another Lenore. Of course we started the episode with them in the morgue finding vampire teeth on seemingly human victims, as in 2x03, and the killer is the deadliest hunter in the universe - the heavily Gordon themed side of Dean which has been symbolised by vampires the whole time from Lenore to Benny...

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OH this is the girl from the cold open. So I assume she's going to explain how she got away. We have to assume the cold open was several days ago - long enough for her to lie low, Michael to ditch all the vamps, AND for them to be discovered again and moved to the morgue and then for this branch of TFW to come out here. Which explains that Michael must have already moved on and be ready for his party in the present day, which is a stretch of time enough to form his next plan.

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"I-if you let me go!" yeah AUBobby lunges at her when he assumes the conversation is over, because he never dealt with this before, but looks over to Sam now, and then Mary does.

We cut away before we find out if Sam decided her fate, so that current silence on the subject may be left ominous or may explain a lot about Sam when we find out whether he had her killed and has turned ruthless, or is still soft Sammy who dealt with Lenore and knows how it goes.

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Mikey, what are you up to?

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He's tapping Dean's charm but with a hint more of Jensen's whiskey smoothness in his voice than Dean's coarseness, so this is legally defined as assault.

This is horrifying. GIVE IT BACK.

I'm calling the police. Michael has made off with Dean's entire seduction routine to trap this monster, and I am horrified.

Weirder still hearing him just casually called Michael. Brrrr.

Ooh she's a werewolf. Somehow I hadn't managed to work that out in the glimpse in the promo and thought she was a new monster type.

I guess Mikey is shopping around.

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Wow she really has prominent teeth. I wonder if that's a sexy trait in werewolves.

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He takes a drink as he menaces towards her - he's still got that calm drifting through kinda attitude that Michael had even in the AU when he was Christian Keyes, and he's starting to have fun, which is really really bad.

I don't think Michael has ever had fun in his life.

He's like the perfect little kid who does well in all his studies then sneaks off and drowns the family cat in the back of the garden as an outlet.

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"Now. Summon your master."

Is this the elusive Werewolf Alpha who survived even season 6 because the show just Could Not Figure Out What To Do With Werewolves until season 9

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Nick  has an ENDLESS series of white shirts to indicate he's a sweet innocent dude now

because,  you know we have a hard time dealing with that

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Nick is ranting like a privileged white man

I mean his family is dead, I just struggle with Nick for obvious reasons

and as soon as his mannerisms cross a line, he loses me again

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He's kinda weird with Cas as well because he knows Cas, kinda, and he has to be 100% on board with all the nonsense, so he's just A Bloke dropped in this life now but casually chatting to an angel. it's weird. "You know what a cold case is, Castiel?" liike, he knows Cas doesn't always know stuff but he is also just going off on one.

I think poor Cas has decided since the Nickifer moment that he needs to spend more time actively watching over Nick, and once more is trapped with a ranting annoying man

this is his curse.

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"But you're not dead. You have a second chance."

"you don't understand"

Ah, teenagers, such a problem :P

but seriously, this is hilariously the third converastion this episode Cas has been in where he directly relates to the very specific weird metaphysical problem that Nick or Jack is going through because there's literally NOTHING that Cas hasn't already been through. He might yet make an excellent therapist just because of how many weird torments he's endured.

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Cas speaking with fondness of Jimmy :') Such a feeling of Jimmy being a good man who went to Heaven, and for Cas, raised as an angel like this, being in Heaven with your soulmate is the ultimate happy ending for good devout people - in 4x20 when he's still in Claire he tells Jimmy he served well and will go to Heaven like it's a reward, and despite everything he still seems to default to that, especially for the comfort of knowing this about Jimmy of all people, because of how directly responsible Cas is for destroying their lives, and knowing that at least they got this is a WONDERFUL coping mechanism for angels to tell themselves it's all okay, when they get the correct vessel with the proper permissions and they're a good and pious person who prayed for it etc etc.

Cas and Lucifer remain the only angels we've ever seen actually court their vessel properly, although it's implied Anael did similar. Most others have hopped right in without securing full and informed consent. Er, not that Lucifer does, but at least he has full and informed bullshit trickery, which, um. Is a thing?

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Nick how DARE you call Cas a "stone cold bodysnatcher" who's no better than Lucifer. Jimmy is gone and Cas has had this vessel remade for him like six times since then. It's the Jimmy Model Vessel mk.VI, as sculpted by God or the Empty.

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*sobs about Cas saying what happened to Jimmy was his greatest regret*

SUCH GOOD CAS STUFF this episode

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The alpha werewolf is a white guy in a suit, surprisingly.

Michael, also a white guy in a suit, sits opposite him, and they're pretentious about their cognac.

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"She thinks you're a god" that's the second time that's happened. He kinda liked it when it was applied directly to him but not an accusation of BEING Chuck, just that that's how he comes across.

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Oh good he's just the leader of the pack, not the Alpha.

Still wanna know who that is

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His sales pitch is about their purity in wanting to kill to eat to live once again. I find it hard to believe a werewolf with snooty opinions about alcohol who wears a suit like that doesn't have some human sins, but it seems that Michael is judging them by their monstrousness first, and waving aside their other habits in favour of the big picture of how they live their lives.

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"Fully tested" you fucking liar

He's talking around the truth... It's fascinating watching him threading the line of judging people for sinners without falling into that himself.

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I do wonder how he knows about wine unless his previous vessel did... or he's taking from Dean's pop culture and deadpan bullshitting it. Sorry, I'm still stuck on that detail. Character stuff always entertains me so much more than plot :P

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"Believe me, it's an absurd dream" He's passively observed at least like 3 attempts to enslave the human race for food just in the last few years. He knows.

Mikey, you can't go around promising that, they know it doesn't work. Dick Roman couldn't pull it off, and you don't have his business acumen.

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"Why be the huntED when you can be the huntER"

ANTI DEAN ANTI DEAN ANTI DEAN AAAAAH turning over EVERYTHING he works for

UUUUGH

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Okay, Jack's wandered off and found his grandparents without a single warning and I am WOUNDED.

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They seriously need to put more warning in for these things because ow ow ow ow ow

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Oh my gooood he's named after Kelly's daaad

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Look at these nice grandparents

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"So you were like her intern" oh ne the intern jokes of last summer have come around and stabbed me

I repent

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Oh NO nerdy little Kelly

this is awful

where is this episode coming from? I can't believe someone's managed to wrangle Buckleming into doing good stuff with everything so this is actually emotionally well-told

this is probably their best episode yet and i'm half an hour in

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"We have a grandson!"

This is emotionally mauling me like an angry bear

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"Jack kind of looks like her!"

*Jack attempts to speak from a lump the size of a planet in his throat*

*Lizzy types from within the bear's mouth, as it tries to stuff my down ITS throat*

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NOUGAT GOT HIS HUG

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Sam spared the vampire girl!!! YAY

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She's called Lydia. You assholes literally used that name before for the Amazon Dean hooked up with

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I can't believe Michael took the time to change his suit. He has a suit for business and a suit for meetings.

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"the hunters" Oh that's cold. Dean, can you hear how he dismisses your FAMILY?

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Oh nooo he metatroned her. This was a traaaaaaap and she was bait

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Aww Lydia :(

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He smites like Lucifer killed demons with his mind

it's so scary

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How can Cas be mad at Jack I just nearly cried at a Buckleming episode

anyway he and Jack are having the equivalent I am your dad and I  set curfew, vs I am a grown up I can go out when I want argument for his teen son he's unfortunately not engaged with much.

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"the only real family I have left"

Cas gets SO PISSED

I AM YOUR DAD, SON

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But he pushes it down and asks if it helped because Cas is good and nice and loves Jack

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Once Jack reveals that he looked like the weirdly photoshopped Kelly on a horse (oof) Cas gets mauled by the same Feels Bear and relents completely because he's legally not allowed to cry but he wants to

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"I suppose there are worse ways to be human than to be kind," he says as speight exploits the fuck out of the bunker set, having them sit either side of the door between war and home, tables in the centre, them on the pillars flanking it. It's a wonderful image. I'd go into it more but I suddenly think I have no time at all

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"So they're going to kill him," lil Hamlet of Nougat says all firmly, re: Michael

Cas switches gears from "this precious child" to "uuuh" immediately

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"And if he doesn't leave?"

I can see Cas being that meme where everything is an action blur around his face to express deep horror as Jack keeps prodding worst case murdering Dean scenarios

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Listen, when this little ball of damp feathers you call your son is joining in with the entire universe challenging you if you have the guts to see Dean killed for the greater good, you have a problem that EVERYONE can see

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"Dean doesn't matter!"

*shock lines intensify*

"You're all so focused on trying to save Dean"

Yeah, he does the same for all of you.

This is the pier conversation from 11x14, but 1000x more intense.

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Cas is like "?????????????? HOW DARE?"

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Cas can not comprehend a world where Dean dies, but our lil Shakespearean hero is determined that it has to  happen because he WILL kill Michael, it's been put on his shoulders and he WILL DO IT DAMMIT.

(later)

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Cas did not have this in the parenting books

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"Do you think he'd want it any other way?"

"no but i love him"

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I can not BELIEVE Jack got a flounce off stage left and Cas is the one left shook

damn, kids are hard

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Nick has also wandered off to meet some relatives.

Cas is the worst at keeping his chickens in the coop

what was he doing

lying on Dean's bed sniffing the pillow

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Oh dear, but it's the neighbour who as this conversation goes on I'm starting to assume was the one who killed his family.

Is he gonna go all Lucifer on this guy?

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Uhoh, bulletproof werewolves

man I am gonna miss my bus if anything else happens

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Mary saves AUBobby <3

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Hi Deanchael, come to torment this poor family

You know you coulda brought Cas because he knew you were here the whole time anyway

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DEAN! HI!

That was a really cool move Dean.

"Sammy"

<3

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"It's me"

Unless it's NOT

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"He just left"

"why"

"i don't know. I don't know!"

me too bud

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Hey look Nick killed the guy with a hammer

What a surprise

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Welp now I have to take my 3rd choice for bus to yoga but I finished and now I will be gone all weekend byeee love you yell about this later <3

[justanearth-boundmisfit]

1/3 Wtf is this final? Chuck was a lazy ass and a dickhead who left psychotic angels with some stupid prophecy about Michael and Lucifer fighting, but he was never evil! He locked Lucifer in the cage because MoC corrupted him and he was dangerous to humans. He locked leviathans for the same reasons. And now tptb want me to believe he's suddenly evil? He's not lawful good, but he's not evil either. Irresponsible, yes, but not evil, for fuck sake! This twist doesn't make any sense.

2/3 People are praising it for being surprising, but that’s the point, it’s too suprising! Fans don’t have to predict the plot twist for it to be good, but the clues has to be there, so when people rewatch the season they can find them and feel silly for not noticing them faster. What was clues for Chuck being evil? I mean, I’m sure someone noticed something painted on the wall in some shots or a person dressed like Chuck in the other

3/3 but those are not clues, they’re supposed to be easy to notice in the whole context or without it, and by everyone, not only by delusional metas who see Destiel in a pebble kicked by Dean while walking toward Cas! And what even now? How are we supposed to be afraid of God, when we already know Amara is more powerful? And she’s still good? I mean, she should be. God, I’m so angry at this stupid show! Good thing I still have a good season final, like Gotham one, or good show like B99.

Hi Joanna, fair warning this got REALLY long, sorry (cringe), it goes under the cut for that reason: 

It feels terribly cheap right? Also, what I never really liked about spn is that they HAVE to have a cliffhanger or a twist in every season finale to shock audiences and bait them to keep coming. A story doesn’t always need a twist at the end, more so if it’s well written, imagine every tv show/movie having a twist ending. It would be boring af, that’s what happened to M. Night Shyamalan for example. We all loved 6th Sense, but he kept coming back with movies that only relied on the “twist” without concentrating on the whole story first and foremost and people got tired of his tricks. And that’s exactly what is happening with spn, although on another level of production of course. It’s a show that only can deliver shock, angst, death and twist! Without the care of preparing the story for those things. It just doesn’t work imo.

But fandom is used to that, and the majority keep coming back for more of the same old same old. Even if it just a cheap trick, or even, like in this case, doesn’t make sense AT ALL. Spn fandom it’s just loyal to a fault, and also the bait from tptb is extreme, they are always promising something that they are never going to deliver, it’s the best example of the carrot at the end of the stick. 

For some tv shows/movies you have to apply the suspension of disbelief for them to be enjoyable. I apply it to tons of superheroes movies for example, because if I’m going to be incredible analytical about them, well, nothing is going to make sense and just why bother right? In the case of spn we have to apply the same method all the time, BUT, some things just can’t be ignored. Why? Well because even the easiest plots to follow don’t make sense. You have to have a base storyline to follow, a central arc that in the end, makes sense and leaves you with a sort of satisfied feeling. If even the central arc, the most important storylines, or even the myths of the show don’t make sense from one season to another, we lost really important parts of the plot along the way. And it starts to feel cheap and just plain WRONG. That’s what happened to spn, imo.

I just watched a video of people talking about the whole MCU and how we arrived to Endgame (no worries not going to talk about any spoilers), and it’s really easy, even for the people that are not that much into the MCU, to see how well crafted the whole journey was. It’s not an easy task of course, and there are mistakes along the way, but you really can see the care for the core story and how they departed from point a, to arrive to point z, and it feels really well done. What I mean is: it CAN be done. Not only by MCU, GOT also is doing this, again with mistakes, but you can feel that they were paying attention, in some cases, even to minimal details. 

Back to spn, it’s painful to see how the show doesn’t pay attention to what came before, and how much they just don’t care. And it’s utterly obvious with this finale. Yeah it’s surprising, yeah most of the people didn’t see it coming, yeah it’s another shocking reveal… BUT where does it leave the central storylines and myths? Is it worth it in the end, to have a “twist” that erases and/or changes not only last season, but YEARS of story telling? My bet is on NO. But I’m in the minority here. I bet metas are going to write tons of posts saying how DUMB  people that didn’t see this coming are. How they only know how to read the narrative, and the people that complain about spn is just stupid and don’t even understand the basics of story telling. Whatever they can keep writing their lies trying to convince themselves that destiel (the pebble “subtext” made me laugh tons ^^) still exists and how amazing Dabb’s era is. 

But the truth is that it just.doesn’t.make.sense. I already said it in one of my many venting in the tags: God being this writer that has manipulated the bros (and Cas) storyline since forever, doesn’t make sense! It erases years of plot and core arcs and myths… also for the trope of Evil All Along you have to give your audience some clues, because the real joy is to go back and to see all the little hints that you missed along the way. What hints spn gave us for this forced twist to pay off?. Not one imo. Yes, like you said, Chuck is a douche, he’s not a good God, not a good parent, not a good anything… but the Big Bad Villain? Of ALL THE STORY ALL THIS TIME? Can’t see it sorry, it feels forced, it feels cheap, it feels poorly constructed. And it has been done before too with Metatron! I mean…it’s cheap AND recycled. 

Like I said in tags too, it also feels like All Just a Dream trope, one of the worst things you can do to your audience, because everything that you thought was real, now suddenly changes because the writers need a sudden surprising twist (see also Writer on Board). It’s an utter mess, a low way to trick audiences, but coming from that writers’ room I shouldn’t be surprised at all. 

This doesn’t bode well for season 15 imo, God being this super villain, how long is it going to last? Because the final season should be about wrapping up personal story lines, not about another incredible hard to beat big bad, that in the end is killed/vanished by one of the bros being all powerful a la Dragon Ball. 

Horrible writing, horrible treatment of the characters (of ALL of them not only Cas, what they did to Mary is horrible too), cheesy self insert, plots that make no sense, that’s what spn is going out with. It’s terrible sad that a show with so much potential is entering its final season on such a low note. 

Sorry it got long af as usual, or more than usual really. But can’t shut up about this horrible mess.

Hugs darling!

Ps: was going to tag this but it got too long. Somebody just msg me saying that Chuck was never presented as s whole good pure God. And I agree. But he was never presented as a whole evil God either. Capricious? yes. Lazy? yes, likes to play with people? Yes (the same could be said about Gabriel for example, was he evil? I don’t think so, the show was always sympathetic towards him). But to make him the BIG BAD all of a sudden? Nah, the show never hinted at him being a character that could open the gates of hell just to have his way. Metas can write tons of essays about occultism, religion and God in western culture, Sorry not buying. Metas can also have all the readings they want, it’s sad that they can’t get down of their high horses to start respecting other points of view…

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Lucifer, Blindspot and all the good stuff...

Oh my god. I have so much tv to catch up on. I can’t tell you how many filters I have on tumblr right now.

I haven’t even seen any of Lucifer season four yet. I haven’t seen any of Blindspot season four (there’s a theme, apparently, but that might have something more to do with the lack of Roman). I’ve got the rest of New Amsterdam to watch, so much B99 to watch and generally, I am just so out of the loop.

So don’t think I’m ignoring anyone - I can see you posting, but it is filtered for me. When I’m caught up, prepare for spamming haha.

But as always, life came at me like a runaway freight train and it’s taken me a long time to get back to a good place. But feel free to say hi and catch up. I missed you guys ❤️

[mulderscully]

It looks like Lucifer could really get cancelled :(

you know, that makes me sad. and it makes me sad that it doesn’t make me sadder than it does. like.

i feel like they really walked into this cause they were in such a good place last season and they royally fucked this season up for themselves in almost every possible way. it’s outstanding. the show went from being so well written, so well balanced, my favorite part of the week to being a train wreck that i watch from between my fingers. 

i don’t actually think they’ll get cancelled tbh. i think they’ll get season four mainly bc b99 got renewed last year so rating dropping isn’t always The End. but i really hope they’re learning something from this. i hope they see that they made some really bad choices here lmfao. i’m not gonna uwu “oh no! poor babies” these writers after they q-baited me, made gross biphobic jokes and pushed consent lines (to put it mildly) and fucked over their female leads all season long? 

but i still love the show so much and i do want them to get another chance to get back to how well they did those first two years. so, yeah tune in etc etc. grit ur teeth and do it.