#literally all the servers I've been in and made friends in have had smth happen which led to me leaving ._.

[angeltism]

so fucking boredddd

[am-i-the-asshole-official]

WIBTA for ghosting someone in RP?

This is a very chronically online problem, I'm aware, but I could use Tumblr's input. This is kinda long, so tl;Dr at the end.

So I (ftm), Z (nb), and O (f) (ages unimportant, but we're all adults) have a server for a shared fandom of ours. There are other people on the server too, but they're relatively unimportant to the problem.

One of the major channels to note was an rp channel. Things started off peachy keen! Everyone was having a grand old time! However, little problems started to pop up. O began introducing some ocs to the rp group chat, which, while outlandish for the setting (her ocs were ghosts from 1500's Minecraft Germany or whatever? I'm still not entirely clear since she's bad at continuity). And while I'm not against more out there ocs, the issue was how she used them, constantly trying to solve problems instantly. They felt more like MacGuffin's than characters. But whatever, she's our friend so we didn't really care.

Then, the racism incident happened.

It's a cool name, but sorta makes it sound more important than it was. Basically O had "monster form" at the end of each of her characters names, since apparently they had human forms too. Well, in an argument, a character referred to the group of ocs as monsters (since, how else would you refer to all of em at once?), and in one of her ocs replies they said smth like "oh btw thanks for the racist remark".

IMMEDIATELY in the ooc chat, Z and I both go "hey man, we're not playing the racism game", which... caused O to leave the server temporarily. Fun.

The relevance of the racism incident is to show why we can't just talk to her ooc about the upcoming issues.

((Very offhandedly she also keeps trying to pressure Z specifically into rping? Even though Z has made it clear many times this month that they are busy with the holidays??))

Anyways, time passes and O keeps wanting to tack on useless shit to her characters (both canon and ocs) for literally no reason. From "Bruno esk powers" to "shapeshifting genitals", it just felt like feature creep.

Eventually this comes to a head when she asks if her 32 year old character could be a WWII veteran.

You know. In the text chat based rp where characters use hashtags and emotes and talk about Twitter.

After a small back and forth between Z and O in the ooc chat, Z just kinda, gave up. Part of the reason they made the server was to transfer their previous rp writings to a server they own, so they don't have to worry about it getting deleted. (Before anyone assumes Z is just being strict, trust me. Z had been very accommodating with letting me and O make inputs and have our characters make an impact. This wasn't an issue of O's lack of control, but rather lack of care about the setting.)

Z admitted in a group chat with just me and their partner that they basically are just going to give up on their previous rp, and just let O do whatever she wants.

This really, and I mean REALLY, ticked me off.

Now, I will not start a ruckus about it on the server itself since I know Z hates confrontation, but now I've just settled on to give O the cold shoulder in rp, not replying to her ocs, barely interacting with her canon characters, etc.

I feel like in character I have a valid reason to ignore her (her ocs made one of my ocs upset, and my other characters are upset for him), but I can't tell if this would be too mean?

ALSO quick little note I forgot to mention above, but it's basically just the three of us in the rp chat, so with Z busy for the holidays, I'm the only other person who O would be able to rp with, if that impacts the vote.

TL;DR - Someone in a rp server is being a right ass and we cannot talk to her about it without potentially starting a huge fight, now I want to ignore her in rp. WIBTA

What are these acronyms?

[james-harmony]

ok I don't know the WHOLE drama but the recent stuff:

dream jumped into a random discussion on twitter that didn't include him whatsoever (literally no one was talking about him) and called all tommyinnit fans the r slur in a meme, took forever to apologize

tommy released a 5min video (not gonna go into detail bc it makes more sense if u just watch it), and then dream said smth on reddit about how he was autistic (which is stupid because you can't rlly reclaim a slur if you're just. gonna use it as a slur, derogatorily towards a mass of people, yknow?).

tubbo did a stream talking about it at some point I think, either before or after (or both) dream's stream. then dream did a 5+ hour stream just talking around the subject & randomly bringing up other things unrelated to the fact that he called people a slur.

when he finally did properly apologize, it was about 1 minute of a video on his youtube (trying to save face on a different platform), and the rest of the video was him accusing tommy of

then, and I'm not caught up on this bit so it's just what I've heard, tubbo did a stream where he talked w/dream, dream gish gallops (look it up if you're not familiar w/what gish galloping is) around the subject enough that sometimes people forget the point of the question they had asked, tubbo tried to keep him from changing the subject, and... yeah honestly no idea what happened in that stream bc I haven't watched it yet, but that's how caught up I am 

stuff that OTHER tumblr users have said to summarize or provide context:

1- @/pyperplane, in a comment, and a very good summary.

"Basically Tommy mentioned how he disliked working with a YouTube named xQc or something, and Dream decided this was the perfect opportunity to post a meme calling old DSMP fans the r slur. People started calling him out for that, but he responded it was okay for HIM to post it because he was autistic (allegedly) and reclaiming it (this isnt how reclamation works, btw).

Everyone called out his bullshit and it all went downhill from there. But to sum some important points:

A) dream admitted to sending porn into the DSMP server when he was in a call with minors,

B) dream texted Tommy’s *mother* a year or two ago complaining about how he didn’t like Tommy’s way of making videos about Dream (+ how Dream got tommy’s mother’s phone number off a doxxing scandal),

C) Dream called Tommy’s editors underpaid, BUT all of Tommy’s editors came forth after this point was made to DISPROVE IT,

D) he claimed Tommy scammed his fans and showed ‘receipts’ that were ACTUALLY invoices that Tubbo paid (Tubbo said this on stream WITH proof). Tubbo has done the most vocalisation on this drama, so i would recommend checking out his streams. If you want to stay on tumblr maybe visit user bugflies00 (they’ve been posting consistently on the issue).

It is not up to me whose “side you’re on”, but I hope this clarifies some information so it’s easier to follow. It is probably wise to understand both “sides” and then compare which “side” has more valid points (from a completely objective view)."

1- @/witherrosealliance (in a comment), good at summarizing this newer situation with context.

"OH BOY. so 2 or 3 days ago now, tommy was having some extremely mild beef w/ another cc on twitter, then another separate cc got involved and called tommy cringe, tommy called this one cringe back for being a trump supporter - in response to this dream (had not been mentioned up to this point) tweeted a meme calling tommy fans the r slur. literally everybody went wtf to this and some ppl talked abt it on stream a little, incl tubbo.

dream makes a reddit post doubling down on using the slur and notably does not apologize in any way. then he does a 3 hour stream reacting to tubbo's stream where he does not address the r slur thing at all, rps as his "detective dream" persona in mc the whole time, namedrops a shitton of ppl w/o evidence (a lot of women esp), incl bringing up caiti, who his friend george groped when she was 18 and george was 26-dream was present for this, did nothing, and defended it on twt. dream also mentioned that he was letting ppl in the dsmp discord show tommy+tubbo (minors at the time) drawn porn of his friends.

tommy drops a 5min vid essentially asking dream to leave him alone and get off the internet (recommend watching), as well as calling out dream and his friends' misogyny tubbo reacts to dream's react stream, and mentions that he's planning on talking w/ dream on stream to potentially sort some of this out, but dream backs out bc he says hes too busy making a response video to tommy dream drops the response vid in which he spends maybe a minute apologizing for using the r slur and the rest of the time just lying about tommy? for ex the claim that tommy doesn't pay his editors properly and uses child labor for his merch (remember this last bit). dream also uses out of context clips of tubbo (branded 'tommy's best friend' in the video) from tubbo's streams to make tommy look worse in the video

tubbo does another stream about the video pointing out that its fake and trying to talk with dream a second time to hash this out, but dream says he's about to go to sleep (which in his defense here, he probably was despite the time being midday, he notoriously has a horrible sleep sched) finally dream agrees to talk with tubbo on stream today and is constantly talking over and interrupting tubbo (who he called 'tommy' 6 times 💀), adamantly trying to avoid talking about the caiti situation, admits he has no proof about the tommy using child labor claim but says its probably true bc of where the merch company is based (racism moments), and kind of sidesteps the queerbaiting accusations (complicated). worth noting that pretty much every cc outside dream's immediate friend group that dream has ever worked w/ (and some he hasnt) has come out of the woodwork to support tommy or argue against dream across these few days. fucking DEADLOX showed up again lmao. this is not all of it, but here's the cliff notes."

2- @/halfabouros, in an ask, actually a really good summary of the most recent stream tubbo did w/dream lmao

"Basically the entire stream between Tubbo and Dream surrounding Dream's entire situation that he entirely dug himself into was as follows

Tubbo: Dream please give context on why you've refused to give context on these situations

Dream: No, but do you think I'm sexist?

Tubbo: Dream please explain why you think I would defend you when you're not providing proof and are putting words in Ludwig's mouth.

Dream: Tom-Tubbo you're being ridiculous

Tubbo: Explain why you were being sexist to HannahxRose and Aimsey. Also Aimsey is Nonbinary

Dream: I don't think I was it was. I was just joking around you know? Also what's Nonbinary?

Tubbo: Explain what proof you have over the editor sweatshop after everyone you've shown proof of has come out with the full context and has denied your claims.

Dream: well.. you don't have the full picture and I'm not showing anything more. Because the proof is in that I have those screenshots at all.

Tubbo: So delete that part of the video if you don't have any proof for it?

Dream: No because it's a joke lmao

Tubbo: Explain how you've linked Tommyinnit getting scammed by a merch company to him directly profiting from Child Labor

Dream: Well it's a Chinese company. They use child labor.

Tubbo: Provide proof that Tommy did that

Dream: Well you got scammed by them too so.

Tubbo: Proof Dream. Proof

Dream: No also it was a critique over his video because he made fun of my ~homemade~ merch

Tubbo: Tommy stated an opinion and you've claimed this as a fact. Facts require proof. So show the proof

Dream: No and also I'm right because the company is Chinese

Tubbo: Okay so... You're not actually saying anything about change or apologizing to anyone that needs it and Tommy doesn't owe you communication.

Dream: *lovebombs <33333*

Like. God it was so manipulative and scummy. I'm actually disgusted just hearing everything."