#literally all ss or nh scenes that are used as 'evidence'

[sueske]

u know people always say ‘if naruto or sasuke was a girl they would be canon’ but what about the opposite - if sakura or hinata were men, would you still ship sasusaku or naruhina? I bet you’d say no. the reason you don’t view sns as romantic is because of your homophobia. 

[captnjacksparrow]

I don't know what you think about this, but given that Kishimoto didn't write Boruto until long after it started.

I think the arc focused on sarada and everything that has been dedicated to the father and daughter relationship, has only been to give SS fans something that unites Sakura with Sasuke.

Since sarada is the only one of the new generation who doubts her parents' relationship, and if it were her, she would too, since there is absolutely no love between them.

I've always thought it was only created so SS fans could say "Sasuke does love Sakura, since they have a daughter"

When it wasn't Sasuke himself who said in Shippuden "I don't love her and I have no reason to love her so I don't know why she does it"

And still there are people who say that I have loved her since childhood and was only blinded by revenge, when after leaving the village he did not show concern about what will happen to her.

Besides that I never treat her in a special way, and although now the relationship with Sarada has improved, the relationship with Sakura is still just as bad.

Sakura herself admitted to Ino that not only did their first date last two and a half minutes, but Sasuke didn't know it was a date. And also when Sasuke is out of the village he doesn't contact Sakura, but he does contact Naruto?

In the end I just think that sarada is a daughter who was born so that her parents would not separate and the SS fans would have something to justify the null love that Sasuke had for Sakura.

Well, All of these episodes which you've mentioned here are not in the Manga and they are all from full-on filler episodes. I mean it's not even from one of those extra scenes which were usually inserted in the canon episodes.

And Boruto production team is just dumb who likes to be friendly with every fandom. If you see SS fillers on a strech of 3 or 4 episodes, then they will switch onto NH for the next batch. This is the pattern they follow and I can't even take any of their episodes seriously.😐

35 chapters in... We learnt the core theme of Naruto Manga. That is, Understanding and Protecting an Important person. Until 699th chapter, that theme has never changed and yet still Kishi had managed to tell the same theme in various ways with interesting characters to the point of making us glued to the seat till the very end. Naruto tried to Understand Sasuke... And Naruto became stronger to Protect his important person, Sasuke. Plain and Simple.

But What does Boruto manga wants to convey honestly?? What's the core theme? It's been running for 6 years and yet nothing happened other than Kurama's death. What did this Boruto brat wants to do??? If this was simply about Alien destruction then I can go watch many well-made Hollywood Movies... not a manga with just pictures and words.

It's a very bad manga with no clear vision or seriousness or sincerity in this project which could make people take this series very seriously.

In the end I just think that sarada is a daughter who was born so that her parents would not separate and the SS fans would have something to justify the null love that Sasuke had for Sakura.

But isn’t this idea, very evident from Gaiden and Boruto movie itself????? I don’t think we need 250+ Anime episodes to say this message. The author has clearly established that both NH and SS happened because they have to spew out babies and make a series about them which would appease the shipping part of the fandom.

Since, Kishi shitted on SS in Gaiden, the Anime team is just doing a big damage control to satisfy SS. When in reality, Sarada don't have a big opinion about her Father. And Sasuke literally spent less than 15 pages with Sarada. I think it's best not to take these Anime episodes way too seriously.

[raveneira]

One major misunderstanding I dont think people understand when discussing Boruto ships, specifically BoruSara, is that nobody has an issue admitting they were wrong, atleast most of us dont.

The problem is we havent been proven wrong YET

If there was legitimate, canon, confirmed evidence that proved either one of them liked eachother, nobody would have a single problem with it because it is what it is.

The problem is NO SUCH CONFIRMATION EXISTS

So it is not WRONG for people to DENY that theres anything romantic there because we have zero confirmation that there is.

We didnt have to look at hints, we didnt have to interpret, we didnt have to guess what the authors intent may or may not have been in regards to characters like Sakura, Hinata, Karin, Jiraiya, Naruto, Ino and so ons feelings, Kishimoto made it clear cut and dry without a single shadow of a doubt how these characters felt and did not beat around the bush about it or wait 60+ or more chapters to explicitly confirm it.

These characters romantic feelings were confirmed for majority of them the moment they were introduced, especially the main characters such as Sakura and Naruto.

However when it comes to Boruto, it seems like everyone has completely turned off their brain and put on their fantasy glasses where they only see what they wanna see rather than whats put right infront of their face.

You can ignore it all you want but the facts are the facts, name one ship besides BoruSumi that has officially confirmed romantic feelings from one or both sides? you absolutely can not do it because there ISNT ANY.

At best you could argue Chocho kinda confirmed she likes or at the very least is interested in Mitsuki based on what she said at the end of the Chocho arc, which is she only gives chips to the ppl she likes and then proceeded to give her chips to Mitsuki.

But thats it, thats literally all the ACTUAL hints of romance in the Boruto series at this point in time. This is just the facts, and we're not wrong for pointing that out.

IF and emphasis on IF, Boruto or Sarada were interested in one another, the two literal MCs, WHY TF WOULD THEY TAKE 60+ CHAPTERS AND 200+ EPISODES TO GIVE ANY EXPLICIT INDICATION OR CONFIRMATION OF EITHER OF THEIR FEELINGS, BUT CONFIRM A FRIGGIN SIDE CHARACTERS FIRST BEFORE ANY OF THE MCS.

Aint no way you dont see the glaring issue with this argument that theres 'So many hints' of romantic interest between them, yet not a single concrete confirmation of this from ANY official source.

They dont have to confirm what ship is canon right away, just reveal ONE characters feelings for the other and it'll still leave the question of will they wont they until the end of the series. I mean wtf was SS and NH for 15 years? completely one sided ships until their feelings were reciprocated in the end and they all lived happily ever after.

SO WHY TF would Boruto be any different? they had NO PROBLEM confirming a side characters one sided feelings for the MC why not the actual main heroine? why would they hide Sarada's feelings but not Sumire's? name one female character in Naruto who has EVER taken THIS danm long realizing/revealing their feelings to the audience, explicitly, not just your interpretation, but their feelings just being blatantly on display where theres no debate on how she feels for said male character, IT CANT BE DONE.

Know why it cant be done? because it never happened.

So when people say BoruSara isnt canon yet and BoruSumi is the only actually CONFIRMED semi-canon ship SO FAR its not because we dont wanna admit Sarada likes him, its because we've literally been given NOTHING that shows this is the case.

For the millionth time YOUR INTERPRETATION AND WHAT YOU THINK CERTAIN SCENES, INTERACTIONS, INTERVIEWS ETC MEAN IS NOT EVIDENCE.

What official sources and staff say is, and so far NONE of them confirm any form of romantic interest between them, PERIOD.

If the day ever comes where its confirmed explicitly that Sarada likes him then Im pretty sure majority of the fandom will accept it and just continue shipping what they ship, thats what SS fans did when Karin was revealed to like Sasuke, thats what NS fans did when Hinata was shown to like Naruto, so why tf would BoruSumi and KawaSara fans have an issue acknowledging Sarada liking Boruto when that literally affects nothing? its never stopped anyone before so why tf would it now?

This isnt about opposing shippers not wanting to accept reality, its about yall not wanting to accept the TRUE reality which is nothing but BoruSumi is confirmed yet, its the only semi-canon ship SO FAR thats been officially confirmed by multiple official sources, NONE OF WHICH EXISTS FOR ANY OTHER SHIP.

So whos REALLY denying reality? cuz it danm sure aint us.

[pinkbarefacedbeauty]

Jealousy?

IF The Last had actually been canon......

You could argue that EVERYONE knows that Hinata likes Naruto. But why would Sakura be so worried about Hinata’s feelings? Why would she be so overly conscious of it? 

This is pretty typical of jealousy. When you have a love rival, and you are self deprecating, not only do you notice the feelings of your rival but you start to push your feelings back. And YOU start backing away or pushing the other person closer and start to list all the way in which YOU think the other person would be a better fit. 

Sakura was self-deprecating as a child (when SHE was bullied *cough* stolen origin. Calling you out Hinata *cough* ) and still kind of doubts her self every now and then when seeing how Naruto and Sasuke are leagues beyond the rest of K11. 

(Reply 1988): This kind of reminds me of Junghwan v. Taek who both loved Deoksun. In which Junghwan is Sakura. (The only difference is Taek actually interacted with Deoksun unlike Hinata with Naruto). When Taek and Junghwan noticed how hard the other is laughing at Deoksun’s dance, you see they both start to realize the other’s feelings for Deoksun. And Junghwan in his self-deprecating ways and having no desire to hurt Taek starts to back away. Taek on the other hand unflinchingly chooses love, not because he doesn’t care for Junghwan but that he is just that in love with Deoksun. I, myself was team Junghwan all the way (I. am so similar to him), but TaekSun grew on me.

Taek was so forward in his own way. Like when they were left alone on the beach, like when he followed her to the bathroom when they heard there was a flasher on the loose. Like when he carried her when she twisted her ankle. When he deeply hugged her but only smiled at his other friends when they visited. There were so many little things here and there.

Junghwan was forward in his brusque tsundere way. If he would have made it to the movie theater before Taek, I am certain she would have ended up with him. Junghwan gains courage too late.

That’s how I feel with Sakura. In that scene when she is lying on the floor. It’s so self-deprecating and a guilt trip to Naruto...

I don’t think that she felt that she deserved Naruto’s love (cut to her breaking down when Sai told her). I don’t think she even believes she deserves Sasuke’s even now, It’s just she spent so long pining after him and now she has him as a consolation prize....but what was she really chasing?? Looking at SS and NH, it feels so empty bc they settled for who they didn’t truly love in fear of being alone. And that actually happens in real life tbh too. 

It’s basically a “no way you could have actually loved me. Me? of all people? are you sure?? What about Hinata? She liked you all this time. Could really love someone like me?? Do you not think of her? How could you not have??”.....Why would Sakura of all people be pushing Hinata so heavily??? (I think this was the studio’s attempt at showing->hey look NS fans, Sakura supports Hinata!!! Like that’ll make us forget the tons of evidence) Hinata could have had literally anyone else talk to her about her love. Like Kurenai, her sensei ,who promised to look after her. Even Ino wouldn’t be too far fetched becasue Ino would like to gossip on things like that imo at the flower shop. And again EVERYONE is aware of her feelings (Just like EVERYONE is aware of Naruto’s for Sakura) Or even have her have a sisterly conversation with Hanabi (show their repaired/repairing relationship).....why Sakura out of all people??

Sakura must have been sleeping on this/thinking of this for so long. 

I felt like that part while so stupid (as why would Naruto whose nindo is to never give up, give up immediately??) could also be Sakura’s way of trying again. With Sakura saying all of that, if he went “no I know my feelings, I am not an idiot, of course I knew of Hinata’s feelings since pain but I love you. It’s always been you”, I feel that they would have gotten together. STILL. In NH’s own movie. STILL, the chemistry between Naruto and Sakura was overpowering. That one scene alone where he jumps from the bird jutsu thingy to catch her trumps ALL of NH scenes not only in series/manga but in their own movie as well. 

(All American) I’m watching All American on The CW lately, and to debunk Spelivia alot of people like to use “they’re like brother and sister” as an excuse of why they don’t support them as well. And i’m like I know plenty of females/males who claims that someone that they later end up messing with is just like a sibling to them. I felt the chemistry between Olivia and Spencer since day 1. I like Layla and Asher, but Olivia and Spencer just have that bomb chemistry. 

I could make another comparison in how Naruto jumping from the bird is evident of how he loves her. He jumps, falls (fall-ing in love anyone??) and reaches towards her. This reminds me of Into the Spiderverse, with that iconic scene in which Miles does a trust fall/leap off a building going towards the ground/ the city he loves and wants to save. (I LOVED THIS MOVIE. YAY PT.2) 

Everybody and their mama know I could ramble for days about this. For now, I’ll think of a pt.2 later.

[sasukesun]

what do you think about ns fans who keep using that moment when minato asked sakura if she was naruto's girlfriend and naruto replied "more or less" (or something along those lines) as any kind of evidence that their ship was "meant to be" (lol) but they were cheated on by kishimoto. i always thought that naruto, being a lil dumb, meant that quite literally, as in that sakura, being a girl and also a friend was a "girlfriend" (i am convinced 100% naruto did not think of it as romantic partner, but literally as a girl that's also his friend, thus she was a "girl friend"). i hope it makes sense lol. it is obvious that was never meant to be anything serious and that it was more for comic relief than anything. naruto himself kept repeating how sakura was always in love with sasuke and he always respected that, of course he did not genuinely thought of sakura as a romantic partner when he answered minato. i swear to god ns fans are as delusional as ss fans, who think sasuke loved sakura all along or other dumb corny shit that they love to spew. they completely love to pick scenes and remove all the context behind them. i just can't with these people.

i think naruto was just trying to look good in his father’s eyes like some dumb “look dad your son has a gf” and it was obviously made for comic relief. naruto’s crush on sakura, when you compare to other “crushes” on the story, is what’s supposed to be: a crush and he grows out of it halfway through shippuden, the fake love confession shows us that. we don’t see any indication of his feelings for her in part 2 except at the beginning and after the fake confession the only time any hint of ns is brought up is on this scene you’re talking about. naruto’s crush on sakura isn’t substantial at any moment, though i believe ns would’ve been canon for boru/to’s purpose only if sakura wasn’t so unpopular. but really, if sj/sp didn’t want to milk all the money from the franchise with the next generation, neither ns or nh would’ve happened regardless of characters’ popularity