#like we did not BUY these like we're some kind of insignificant people that want to die

[spideysatan]

so......... my building was condemned and now we have about 20 days to move out :)

[the-firebird69]

Dear Christopher, 

 

On behalf of the Lennar Corporation, we want to thank you for your interest in the Senior Purchasing Manager role in our Fort Myers Division. 

 

At this time the position has been closed and will not be continuing with the interview process. 

 

We encourage you to join our Talent Network, if you have not already, to keep abreast of current opportunities at Lennar. 

 

We do wish you the best of luck your in career search! 

 

Sincerely, 

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Our son applied to this about a month ago. That's strange they're finally saying something stupid and he just kind of zipped through the application but these people plan to say this kind of thing to him the whole time and our son plans to say the same kind of thing to them and he doesn't want to work for them or with them at all not even for a day he doesn't like you people. That's one thing.

-the other thing is your not building anything that's one reason why he would not get a job we wanted to go to an interview so you can grab them and you won't do that so you're going to sit here blabbing and sitting on his head and was and he's going to be mad the whole time until you're gone because your plan is to put is out and it won't work and we see wiping each other out in the future in movies. And you don't know it's kaput and your actions are horrible and what you do is terrible and we respond with Force.

-I would like to say I don't want to give you the moment that you're looking for but really I guess we're saying it and you get all happy and we're going after the people that are all happy about it because you're so freaking stupid you need to die this is so far below what the bare minimum is required to do anything that you're not worth keeping around at all meaning on your side you should not be doing anything like this.

-so I'm telling lennar if you don't have work down here and you're sending me these jobs in a serious way or posting them that you are violating the law and a civil and criminal and I did have people investigate you and we'd like to own lenar and we're going to approach it this way with my case and several others over there all over the world where you're trying to hire people and it's fake is it illegal practice and you're trying to sit their information to murder people and you're threatening me about it and we do know the individuals are half of them are dead for treason and they can be shot in the head on site and you're going to die anyways I just want you to know we're going to take over the company because of your particular action and you're a stupid letter and not having to return email cuz you're a coward. And a p****. I've never seen so many f** wimps in my life you people don't have a backbone. You're not going to be building anything very soon your projects are terrible globally you stink as a company people are not buying their homes because they know who you are and we want to change that because Leonard used to have a decent name. I'm a well-known figure in construction people who want to make fortunes and cities and empires we'll try to hire me in the future but I'm going to own the companies so I can do what I want and it's for the mac proper plan as well and some of the foreigners if you have a complaint take it up with them as far as you go you and yours are fired in fort Myers need anything that you're going to be extinct gone and dead and it is for other crimes other than the way you call small insignificant crime of harassing me which no is treason as well I hate to waste my breath on people like you but it applies to all the others who are sending applications or jobs or opportunities that are never going to be accepted by them or hiring me in any way that's illegal and it is against federal law it's a felony you can go to prison get sick and get burned and the pseudo empire doesn't care anymore mac daddy and his crew don't care they just want to stop you from being an a jackasses and you're ruin their business and they want you gone and out and I'm here to say that you can't build and you couldn't build before because you're incompetent people you're accused not high enough you don't know what you're doing and I've seen your overlord spend like an hour going over a stupid problem like 20 times it takes so much damn time why don't you go to your Island we're going to be there shortly and you won't be and I've ordered it already because of this behavior that you're giving me. Is you get hit and you lose everything and that's what happens to people who do what you're doing. So I'm issuing the order right now to sue your company and we're going to sue other companies that have given recruiters their name and said they're going to hire and was suing John remillard for sending me fake ones too. You're all going to go down screaming and laughing and seeing you did something in jerk water bars that used to be houses drinking blue velvet

Zues Hera

We have to tell you the last line means something but it really means you're going to drink cologne because you're a stupid assholes and I'm following the lawsuit now and you're sitting there grinning because you're a stupid person you don't know what it means and you don't know what happens it's all over the news you can only lean over and ask your secretary who's telling you to f****** die for what you're doing. He doesn't want to work for you anyways and tries to find ways out and you wouldn't do the relocation she'd fail anyways you would fail anyways not her but you're a bum and we know who You are you think that you're a funny guy and all this other stuff and you don't have anybody to work for and you don't have any money and no transportation and you can't pay the electricity on your single house and we're doing that to your people and right here you can go die in combat it's probably where your own job you're going to try and bother him today we're going to arrest you using other people but we are opening the lawsuit and it's going to go forwards and there's other companies like it I'm going to start doing it and you're stopping him from getting a small amount of money is going to stop you from getting any is explained earlier and you ignored it now you're going to pay we're going into this kind of detail so others can see it usually they start trying to dumb crap you did and we go after a whole bunch of you. And tons of businesses and a lot of them can be weapons in an instant and you don't care and your weapons facilities are falling apart and you're not going to make it and we appreciate your help but really don't let the door hit you in the ass when you're way out it's just going to happen today when lemnar fires you they said. They said you're no longer the CEO and you're not on the board and you don't own it and what you did is illegal so we're going to sue your office is not correct they had to do it but they're going to fire you anyways and we'll keep doing it and you keep getting fired and we need to do that and the people running it are not pseudo empire and they're not bja they're your own idiots so I'm finally the losses right now

Bitol and Goddess Wife

Olympus

[morgue-xiiv]

To clarify, I'm not in any way resisting Klaasje's characterisation of the relationship with Lely as consensual, possibly even loving, definitely a source of hapiness for her. That's not what I'm talking about when I say she's been impacted by misogyny. Equally, I would never buy the idea that she has the power to forgive him for war crimes (which yeah, she knows he did). IMO, she never offers forgiveness, merely says that she, personally, doesn't care what he did. And part of me wants to side with the deserter and be angry with her for associating with him at all. It's the most unappealing part of her character. But the second you sexualise that (as the deserter does), what does that make her? Some kind of sexy prize for people who don't do war crimes? A prop.

Okay, So I'm with you that DE has nuanced characters. Every character is humanised in some aspects (except Ruud Hoenklowen and maybe Phylis de Paule who I loathe unconditionally) and demonised in some aspects (inb4; yes, even Kim). Literally the capeside appartments cleaning lady, an unnamed character whose main narrative purpose is to give you a route into the apartment building if you don't find a spare key, has good and bad aspects to her character.

Where you lose me is the idea they're depicted as equally bad. That seems like a massive reach. It's really really easy to separate "Titus called Klaasje a whore and is therefore bad" with "Korty will brag in literally sickening detail about commiting murder and rape in a war zone, and is therefore bad." I just don't... understand where that's coming from.

If you set Korty on fire you can choose a dialogue option where you wish him peace. And the only reason I can pick that option is because he's... on fire. He's got an extremely limited window of opportunity to hurt more people. Once he's dead and can't impact others then you can worry about his poor little meow meow war criminal feelings. That's the window where you can sympathise with him.

The point Klaasje makes when she says she, too, would be out committing war crimes if she had the physical robustness and social support is that we're all in circumstances. Klaasje might be a "better person" because she never ran into a village yelling slurs and murdering people. But she also never had the option to do that. She was a teenage beauty queen. Lely was an orphan sent to a military academy. Yeah, you can judge people on how they treat others. I'm going to. But isn't it weird that the people in a possition to hurt others hurt people (and are judged as bad) and those who aren't get hurt? and are subsequently judged as "good" or "better". Why does what happened to them define their character? The mercenaries are objectively scum. But this idea of judging someone against their victim? Idgi.

Is Kim a better person because given (on paper) the same level of power as Harry he (as far as we know) does not commit any gross acts of police brutality? Or is he just painfully aware that due to his race he could never get away with shit Harry does? Is Kim more empathetic and gentler to victims and vulnerable people because he's 'inherently' a good person, or just because he's more used to being victimised? Does that matter at all? Then take Joyce. Joyce seems like an extremely generous and helpful character because she's extremely privileged. The ammount of money she (potentially) gives you renders insignificant the 1 reàl you can get from, say, Call Me Mañana. But technically Mañana is more generous because he has so much less but still tries to help.

I would like to get into a character that I feel very ambivalent about: Klaasje. Not so much Klaasje herself, but some of the narratives that her character (and other female characters) embody in Disco Elysium.

(Warning: spoilers ahead, as well as talk of sexual assault and Klaasje’s canonically batshit relationship)

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