#like they're imagining the story should be about ships from a fandomized lens
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cypheragent · 6 months ago
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evidently this is an unpopular opinion but s2 is not about loumand nor was it ever promised that loumand would be the focus... some people set themselves up for disappointment and that's not the fault of the writing. loumand is one important part of the season, but the main focus of s2 is louis and claudia
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coolfire333 · 2 years ago
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for the ask thingy 1, 5, 13 deltarune or tc!
Thanks for the ask!! I'll do the questions with both fandoms since I'm feeling chatty :)
1. What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?*
Deltarune: Swatch/Spamton, I mean I kinda understand the appeal with how their relationship is in canon why people would ship them, but the fandom has really turned their relationship into something so drastically different in the lens of romance that it almost boggles me. Swatch always feels so ooc for me in most things I see shipping him and Spamton, and it's rare that I find something depicting the animosity the two canonically have for each other in a shipping piece. I'll still reblog stuff of them that I find artistically appealing but tbh I do not understand the fanonical appeal
Trauma Center: Lloyd Wilkens/Luc Rousseu. Wilksseu must have been conjured up as the most insufferable pairing imaginable because that's the only way I can explain its existence. It makes so little sense but at the same time I feel like I completely understand it. I think it's brilliant and hilarious though so I actually still ship it as a crackship LOL, nasty old doctor men in love get a thumbs up from me I guess
5. Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?*
Deltarune: Probably Swatch/Spamton again, for the reasons above. I wouldn't say "ruined" because I never shipped it to start with (I prefer Swatch/Tasque Manager and Spamton/nobody in canon) but I prefer them to have a hate-love, forbidden romance in rivalry kinda deal if I were to ship them
Trauma Center: Actually no! The only thing I can say is that I do like multishipping so while Angie/Derek is still my favorite pairing for either of them, it'd be interesting if more people were open to shipping either of them with other characters, just to see how the dynamics play out. Like Adel/Derek, for example, I think that's really underrated and intriguing
I also once saw Naomi/Derek and idk if I really ship it but it's certainly interesting, those two interact all the time in second opinion yet I rarely see stuff of them interacting in fandom, and I wish there was at least a bigger brotp thing going on with them in fandom since they seem pretty close (especially in trauma team with Naomi's backstory expanded upon, like Derek consulted on Naomi's diagnosis and operation, and in second opinion Naomi literally operated on Derek, they're ride-or-die buddies in my mind so hard)
13. Unpopular opinion about XXX character?
Deltarune: Two things. First, idk if this counts for this question but I don't like the popular headcanon that Spamton and the addisons are brothers/siblings. I do like estranged family dynamics, but I think the main reason people think they're related is that they look alike. I just think they're the same species(?), so in this case I think that having them just be coworkers/friends is much more interesting, compelling, and canonically supported.
Also, I do like Berdly...he is not the most egregious example of this trope (looks nervously at my other fandoms) but I just LOVE nasty bully-type kid characters, especially if they're being that mean to compensate for something really bad that happened to them. His backstory really struck a chord with me, and besides he's not even that mean or even evil, he's just pretty stuck up and annoying. He's definitely not the nastiest character I have "this is my son" feelings towards but I see a lot of people absolutely DESPISING him...por quoi.....
Trauma Center: ADEL TULBA HAS POTENTIAL!! I like what they did with his storyline in canon but my god could it have been expanded upon a la Naomi's story in second opinion. Like I think they should have built him up more as a secondary character with playable missions as him, especially during his time at the hands of asclepius (like Naomi's delphi missions), it would have made him such a stronger character.
And trauma center LOVES to copy their own work across different games when it comes to storylines/specific operations so literally I would not have minded at all if they gave him the Naomi treatment from the start. I'm playing utk2 for the first time rn (as opposed to just watching playthroughs lol) and I'm just like. Where is Adel. Where is he, he's been awol for like two whole chapters!
Still love Adel to bits though. I think that liking him is an unpopular opinion too, I mean I don't think anyone hates him per say, but I'm not sure anyone particularly likes him either, and I think part of that is because the storyline could have made him more interesting
Thanks again for the ask, this was fun! :)
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first of all, please be warned that I am NOT normal. I'm an archeology major/medieval studies minor who sees all of spn through the lens of folklore, writes long meta abt it, and has constructed a 3+ yr postcanon timeline using the other shows the actors appeared in, as well as a massive crapton of folklore. I am FULLY convinced that both Sam AND Dean are actually monsters.
(Also on that note, anything seemingly rude/derogatory/villainizing I say about Sam, please know that I 1) mean it with the UTMOST love, respect and protectiveness, and 2) think more or less the exact same thing about Dean. the only thing worse than acting like Sam isn't a Grade-A Freak is acting like DEAN is somehow normal. Absolute animals the both of them.)
anyway, yeah seriously! like whenever I see someone (90% of the time this is a Heller, but there's a couple ppl who rly hate Cas) saying this shit, I just want to tell them to imagine themselves IN SPN for a second, with whatever level of god-author powers they'd prefer, telling Dean that "for the sake of the story" or "for Dean's own well- being" (I hear that specific form of BS in Sam hateposts all the time) , he has to choose between Sam or Cas.
like. bruh if you told ANY of them that, they would literally just kill you. either you fail immediately and humiliatingly at this and end up as a monster-of-the-week, or you actually get somewhere and are the new BBEG.
I'm not threatening these ppl to be perfectly clear, just, like. I don't think they realize what role they're playing in the story here. yknow?
also absolutely LMAO at the Sam Hate thats like
"ugh, Sam, he doesn't even do anything. he's big and awkward and always looks like he doesn't belong in whatever scene he's in. his face is shaped weird and he always looks like he's constantly tense or in pain and he never even talks anymore, at least in earlier seasons he talked. his vibes are so bad why does he have to be here"
like wow, I wonder if that's from being fed demon blood as a baby, or maybe the blood of Cain, or maybe the THOUSANDS OF YEARS IN THE CAGE BEING TORTURED TO INSANITY, maybe its the living with Lucifer and Michael far longer than he ever lived w humanity, maybe its having his soul taken out, put back in, flayed to bits, walled back off, being burnt alive body & soul from the inside etc etc. Maybe its ending up stuck forever in the life he tried so hard to escape, because it turned out that "not hunting" was never an option, something he learned from watching his first-ever true love burn on the ceiling of his college dorm. Maybe is spending his whole life being told he's fundamentally unclean, unnatural and evil.
...sure would be crazy if the majority of his character/plot arcs were spent addressing the fact that Sam is aware of ALL of these things that the fandom points out as being "wrong" abt him, and how he feels abt/struggles w this stuff.
okay NEXT unpopular opinion, I DON'T see Sam and Dean's relationship as primarily being "brothers". nobody else raised Sam except Dean, and that's that. Sam is Dean's eldest kid, because despite "single parent of an infant at AGE 4" being deeply fucked up, it is canonically what happened to them. in canon.
I don't care what ppl ship, but personally? wincest grosses me out. I don't think you're evil for it, just, ew. yknow what else grosses me out? "they're literally just brothers, brothers is all they are, their relationship is unhealthy because brothers should be that close, they're not normal for brothers". that grosses me out too.
like I'm sry, throwing away your own life/even the whole world for your CHILD is in fact normal. Having trouble letting go of your CHILD as they grow up is normal. Especially if you're a single parent!
and also!!!! Dating someone who has a child already!!! is normal and ok!!! Especially for a middle-aged/older couple like Destiel, in fact, for a couple their age its ESPECIALLY normal and okay for one or both partners to have previous children who are, themselves, now adults.
sorry ik this turned into more of a Destiel Ramble than Sam, I promise I DO have actual Sam Thoughts, but this post has gotten long and I just wanted to get out of the way how much I hate ppl trying to make it "Destiel vs Sam & Dean" as though there's some issue with them all co-existing.
like.
have they watched the show.
Fuck, I was looking at Sam's tag to look for things about him and I can't do that without being bombarded by Destiel's posts, and Sam isn't even mentioned in the posts. I'm angry as fuck, you know what? This has gone on for too long. Do you want war? Then there will be war! I'm going to start tagging my shit as Destiel and other tags that you like, just to feel what me and others fans feel. Starting with this one.
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