#like some believe kefla is weaker than standard ssb vegeta due to the final flash...that needs to be fully charged...for free

[machimachilegends]

DBZ but it’s Arc by Arc after running through the Kanzenshuu’s archive for interviews, but Cell Games Gohan was pretty cracked in hindsight

(Note: Pui Pui is the only weird one to place anywhere)

DBS Manga except it’s not Arc by Arc mostly because extra information from Interviews and the like curves the scale, with the term tough not relating 1:1 to strength in DB as simply having magic contributes to it

(Note: Toriyama claims “not even Broly” could beat a hypothetically complete Cell Max, but Broly is recently being hidden from Freeza, so that should tell you all you need to know compared to Beast Gohan since they’re not on the list)

Still DBS albeit way more cross-referential than before for Destroyers, but it’s worth noting Heles may be able to use the Pretty Black Hole (anime) as she is able to give exposition on it and vibes with the Power of Love

Edit: This was privated for a bit because I was remembering Goku’s reentrance in the Moro Saga, and thinking over the scaling there, but considering 17 & 18 could help but they’re supposed to be weaker than Gohan by then… Safe!