#like seriously what even is in the soc script

[jamieisnotrich]

The writers of this show really said “the chances of getting a six of crows show are slim so let’s just squeeze everything we can into one season and ignore shadow and bone” and I love them for that

[arillusionist]

shadow and bone s2e1 reaction - i said i would watch this episode on sunday but i lied. haha

they should've put 6 crows in the sky are they dumb

kaz gave them papers?? when?? he probably did it offscreen i swear i didnt forget the last episode that quickly

ok oh my god by the way. they better have fixed malina in this season too because i'm halfway through siege and storm and i literally want to kill mal hes so fucking annoying and literally SO toxic. i miss the soc relationships they were all so well written

fuck this after i finish the s&b triology im rereading soc

ooh nice map

YAYY WE'RE IN KETTERDAM i hope they have more episodes here this season. aka more than 2

i have a feeling this is where they meet wylan... or nina maybe

"are you saying we have no home" ?? what about the slat

KAZ'S BACKSTORY??

thats how you pronounce inej's last name?? my whole life is a lie wtf

"she does that" aw he sounds so proud

stop this is like that one scene from soc except if he faints inej's voice wont be there to ground him when he wakes up ☹️

omg thats nikolai/sturmhond right

PLEASE KAZ'S SIDE EYE WHEN HE LOOKS AT JESPER

take your damn shoes off

ok they better tell him where shes going because while theyre on the verge of going to prison shes just making out with her boyfriend

i love alina but am i supposed to feel bad for her?? bc i dont

yayy he told him but good thing inej isnt here

Kaz side eye 2.0

theyre revealing the jesper grisha thing already...? interesting

omg novyi zem looks exactly like how i imagined it "these fugitives are wanted for crimes against our country" this isnt your country dawg

i can already tell theyre toyla and tamar

is this ketterdam again is that inej

so they kill heleen ofscreen. and inej has literally no reaction to it.

I am so confused rn didnt kaz buy inej's indenture??

WAIT NO I GET IT STOP IM SO DUMB

"im not leaving you. not now" ☹️☹️☹️☹️

HEARTRENDER NINA PLEASEEEEE 🙏🙏🙏

tf is he waffling about

talking about pekka btw

if theyre doing the whole pekka plot now what did they leave for the spinoff?? ik its probably not happening but they thought it was gonna happen and they wrote the scripts but what even are in those scripts

then again i think they only wrote the scripts for the first book

but what were they planning on putting in it for the second book if they got it 💀

WYLANNNNNN!!!!!

so he already had wylan employed (??) or whatever interesting

NINAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

"funny guns and angry hat" speaking of hats can kaz please stop wearing one it looks so fucking ugly

aww nina talking to inej in suli

MATTHIAS!!!

all the crows in one episode this is crazy

and they've been onscreen for 9 whole minutes?? even crazier

i spoke too soon 💀💀

is this a cult

GENYA!!!!!

i need to stop doing that everytime a character i like shows up

but seriously i just need zoya now and i'll be so happy

is he a fucking cannibal

IS GENYA A CANNIBAL TOO

WESPER MEETING!!!! i wasnt excepting it this episode but yay

ALL THE CROWS IN ONE PLACEE except matthias but ik thats not happening this season

"in truth hes the love of my life" kaz im sure you know so much about that

"he does this" "does he" lmfaooo

omg its the iconic scene i've seen in way too many edits

Inej in the middle i knew she was the main main character 😍😍

ughhhh i thought the episode would end with the crows but ofc not

ok now it ended

[anarmel]

six of crows gang my beloved

what is fanart without me complaining about a thing i like

as a person who read SoC duology a long time ago, my SoC only related thoughts

-did they make Jesper gay and not bi?do not support that decision. that scene in a stable was kinda unnecessary (but i’m not a big fan of those kinda scenes in general) and felt like they just wanted something gay in this season and sort of a nod that they didn’t forget Jesper’s attraction to men but in process of that forgot that he’s bi. i think he should’ve had flirtatious interactions with everyone(he flirty).especially that we know that his main love interest is a man and his light crush on Kaz he should’ve flirted with a woman in this season. and i know that bi people are not obligated to date several people of all gender spectrum to know or like affirm that they’re bi but that’s in real life and SaB is a piece of media that communicates through visuals and limited dialogue and not a book where you have access to mention it in characters thoughts soo....yeah....not invisible bi representation where?and Nina is taken with her romance with Matthias already

-Nina(my beloved) and Matthias...yeah that’s the start of their story

-i liked “more soft” Kaz he felt less like an archetype of a character that he is(a traumatised bad boy who doesn’t care for anything or anyone but will eventually be “fixed” by love for a girl). book version of him works because we have his inner thoughts and machinations if he was on screen like he was in a book it just wouldn’t work as well he needs to emote and show a little bit of feelings that he experiences to work in a given medium and to not be a brick character on screen

-and Inej, my girl, my beloved . i don’t think she would sass tante Heleen while still being under a contract. i don’t understand why they took out her having panic attacks near the menagerie, and she refused Jesper’s backup(girlboss of her to do that but not being alone in that place is beneficial for mental stability !buddy system!). maybe because she is in that situation where she is still under indenture and she didn’t feel real relief and still is to take her first breath as a free person so she doesn’t feel constant fear of being robed of her freedom by the same place again? idk maaan...maybe i’m wrong but that’s jus how i feel. she is the strongest character in the series but that doesn’t mean she should be “strong” in every situation she is still a human who was treated so terribly by so many people and the menagerie represents it. ooof. in a book her strengths and weaknesses were established so well. i appreciated her fangirling for Alina though and that they didn’t brake her character in that way.her beliefs are still intact and she is apprehensive about kidnapping a saint. nice. love her

as a viewer of Shadow and Bone content without a book base but with basic knowledge of the universe and characters:

-(speaking as a slavic person in predominantly slavic society) didn’t like Zoya’s racist comment towards Alina like at all. like she is asian herself different part bur still. and i felt like her problem with Alina wasn’t race related then why throw that in? if my rival was poc i wouldn’t throw a slur at them and go a racist rout because that will not who i am(and i’m not that lazy at insulting/j) and it’s not even a part of my problem with them, i would go for something more personal and connected to the root of the problem to be a full bitter bitch. like Zoya feels useless and like she’s being replaced (right?) she could’ve commented how useless Alina is, how she can’t be strong by herself without help of darkling to reflect her own insecurities on Alina? why drag race into that problem? why? i know they had asian writers working on the script and in my opinion they did a good job at war era racist propaganda and how it ostracised Alina in society but making Zoya on a personal level a racist was kinda dumb. she’s a bitch but not a bigot

-i’m afraid of saying my thoughts on darkling/alina/mal situation because that part of the fandom really scares me. and that was not really my interest in this show

-not enough Genya(i really like her character)

as a person who was born in russia and will die in russia(not by choice) my russia related thoughts:

(i know that it’s only inspired and not based on imperial russia but i wanna nitpick and bitch about things)

-for imperial russia not lavish enough(yeah budget and stuff but it’s true) those bitches only knew how to burn gold on luxuries and wars

-Alina’s last name is Starkov. so in russian usually last names that end in -ov/-ova -ev/-eva are gendered her version is “male”. i don’t care for gendered stuff but in russian every word is that way. as a gender abolitionist i don’t care as a russian speaker kinda not right but eh. i(nb) go by my -ova last name because it flows with my name better like Alina Starkova i kinda like how it has an A at the beginning and on the end. Alina Starkov is still a cool name because fuck grammatically correct things

-i don’t understand why they decided to call uniforms kefta and not kaftan, kefta sounds more like kofta(casual shirt) and kaftan is a real thing and a nicer word in my opinion(and isn’t kefta a dish? but then again we have a dish named “herring under a fur coat”)

-do not understand the name of an episode “otkazat’sya” it means “to refuse” as in like a verb, kinda weird, “otkaz”(refusal) would suit more as a name because it’s a noun and less confusing and a cooler looking word. it just doesn’t work in russian and was kinda jarring to see it. and didn’t they call a food taster an “otkazat’sya” like huh??? he would be just a low ranked “pridvornyy”(courtier) or a “sluga”(servant) or if you want a fancier word it would be “mundschenk”(world of german origin used in imperial russia under Peter the First) but they were only for vine and drink tasting

-there is like three words in russian and pronunciation is funny. o to pronounce ц like ц and not like ts. there is no need to be soft

-and it’s so funny that magic users called Grisha it’s just a slavic name Grigori in short form. imagine a world where magic users are all called like Josh in all seriousness

-(did they have at least one russian speaking person to consult on language usage or pronunciations?they merged two books together couldn’t they change some words to more correct ones?)

-so mad that they killed of my main man Ivan he was THE russian representation of that show. such a single minded serious bitch. i connected to him so much (i love me some unimportant background characters) and that goth bitch(darkling) lives on. i only can be satisfied if one of those shadow monsters is Ivan(i only jest...unless?....)

general:

-found family is top tier, love triangles are in hell(not fun kind) but that’s my general hiccup with this franchise (it has so much potential but choses to focus heavily on romance, like romance is good and great and all that but friendship is magic)

-in conclusion i really liked the story as a separate being and it’s one of the better book to screen adaptations i’ve seen but it’s not without flaws

-i’m always critical of things that i love. it’s my passion to scrutinise and see flaws. i am but a miserable being

🖤only my personal opinions and feelings,hope you enjoyed my art despite my tirades🖤

[southslates]

i see a lot of people saying that show kaz could develop into being six of crows kaz, but honestly, like . . . all of what defined kaz brekker ™ has occurred. he's traumatized, he hates pekka, jordie has died, he has built the crows up from nothing.

in six of crows, inej is safe from tante heleen because she and kaz both depend on kaz's reputation as dirtyhands to keep them safe. in the show, heleen actually uses inej to hurt kaz--and that happened way too soon.

if everyone thinks you're a monster you needn't do every monstrous thing, but you have to do some of them. and can you imagine show!kaz in the next year building up that kind of reputation?

yes, i'm disappointed at how the crows were almost reduced to comic relief in order to indulge alina's plot. they are ruthless, they are killers and kaz is supposed to be worse than a fucking murderer. the goat plot was cute, the circus plot was fun to see, but it wasn't the crows. they need to be taken seriously.

and after everything went wrong with their plans in season one, who's going to take them seriously? this wasn't a minor fuck-up, this was actually terrible. like we know that pre-soc kaz broke his leg when he was robbing a bank when he was fourteen and that led to his limp, and that's supposed to be the worst mistake he has ever made in a heist. a broken leg, and he is only stronger for having broken it.

but travelling halfway across the world with no solid plan makes kaz brekker seem stupid to viewers, not like a genius. and because freddy looks like he's in his twenties, not seventeen like kaz is in the books, it's even more comical.

freddy, amita and kit did an absolutely spectacular job, my issue is more with the script/plot in terms of the crow development. but without kaz ruling the barrel with inej and jesper at his side, this show doesn't feel super right.

[annathecupcake]

Okay so I finished Shadow and Bone and here are my (probably spoilery) thoughts:

- I cannot believe I'm saying this but I like show Mal. I genuinely really like him. I didn't think it would be possible (obviously I was simping for Archie as Mal before the show but Holy moly). In the books Mal was just so annoying. He wasn't supportive at all, it felt rather like he was judging Alina all the way through, but show Mal is really awesome.

- Ben Barnes was the most perfect choice for the Darkling. Freaking love him! BTW I'm still team Darklina.

- Matthias and Nina omg. Do I have to say anything? Their scenes were immaculate, absolutely perfect. I was smiling so much my cheeks hurt. The dialogues were so accurate to the books and their dynamic was just awesome! Also obviously perfect casting choice. Chef's kiss. THE CHEMISTRY!

- I was surprised by the fact that I enjoyed the shadow and bone storyline more than the crows storyline. Probably because it was more accurate to the books.

- I absolutely freaking adore Jesper. He was truly the life of the party in this show, which was also a surprise since I found him to be one of the less interesting characters in Six of crows. Kit really mastered every single scene.

I did miss Wylan terribly though.

- This will probably be a very unpopular opinion but I have to say it. I did not (can't believe I'm saying this) enjoy Kaz and Inej at all. First of all, you can fight me on this, but I didn't like the casting choice for Kaz ever since it was announced and I still don't. Second of all it makes me sad that Kaz and Inej were literally my favourite characters in SoC (like I was OBSESSED WITH THEM), but in the show they felt so out of character to me. There were scenes (especially with the two of them talking to each other) where I just thought "Kaz wouldn't say that" or "This is so not Inej" and it was really disappointing. I hate to say it but I was actually kind of bored by the Kaz scenes *yikes*. There was hardly any backstory to them as well. I seriously think that my disappointment with Kaz and Inej is the only truly negative thing I can say about the show. It actually made me want to reread the books because I miss them so much.

- The brief Darkling/Kaz interaction was cringe lol.

- I still haven't decided whether I like that they combined two separate storylines or not. I kinda did, I guess. But at the same time it was so weird.

- I really hope for a season two just to see where this whole mess is going and how the crows will be incorporated into it. And I really need Wylan and Nikolai. Though I'm a bit scared since Nikolai is one of my absolute favourite characters in the books and I hope they get him right (not like with Kaz. I'm not even sure whether it was the acting I didn't particularly like or the script. Probably the latter)

- I also need to add that in the first book I thought Alina was annoying and bland, but show Alina won me over immediately.

- The visuals were great, it was filmed beautifully imo. The costumes, the Fold... everything was awesome.

Lastly, I want to say that overall I did enjoy the show and if I could just stop comparing the book crows to the show crows there would be nothing to complain about. It was really good and I definitely want to see what happens next.

[galwaygremlin]

Autistic SoC HCs Part Three: MY FAVE, YOUR FAVE, Y’ALL-KNEW-THIS-WAS-COMING, INEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEJ

I love this girl with my whole existence and then some

so I’m gonna start off with receipts since I bothered to get the book out for Jesper’s post

pg. 197-198 (this is the paperback for y’all who wanna factcheck me) is Jesper teasing Inej for being too good too pure for the Dregs/the world bc she doesn’t drink, swear, or gamble (I want to squISH HER LIL FACE what an angel) and then she comes out with this Iconique line that all autistics can relate to- “As long as I don’t have to start going to parties”

what a QUEEN

we already know she’s not too comfortable with touch which is canonically due to trauma but “the first time Nina hugged me, I flinched” yes. same. that line resonated so hard with me. even wanted touch is hard

feeding the crows bc she’s just THAT much of a fairy princess (anyone from the RWRB server don’t @ me I know I just used my own nickname and I’m not worthy but it’s the only descriptor I can think of)

very attached to her family and the values she grew up with and afraid they’d be ashamed of her choices now (they could NEVER but her feelings are still valid)

the “fine I’ll just do it myself” attitude toward everything is *chef’s kiss* and also High Key Autism Mood when people are making things complicated

the way her emotions are narrated feels very... strong? like she allows herself to feel in fits and starts and when she does she feels A Lot Of Things. it’s relatable as hell. 

what Jesper calls her “depressing Suli wisdom” is... interesting to me. the cadence of her speech and seriousness of her tone feels close to home. autistic speech patterns/scripting methinks?