#like it MAKES sense for everyone to ACT this way bc marinette DID spend like. 4 seasons and the movies pining after adrien

[jabberwockprince]

back into my miraculous ladybug bullshit and i cant fucking believe s5 so far is actually like. good. like actually good. i havent had to pause to stress about dumb choices from the writers so far and the choices they ARE making are SUPER SOLID like?????? where tf were yall hiding the good writers all this time

[caffeinatedtomato1]

So, I've binge watched all of what's on Netflix for Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir the last couple of weeks, and let me just say it is such a fun and adorable show! I love shows like this in that Sailor Moon vein - beings me right back to my childhood. And it is so charming and the animation is so pretty! Also, I am very invested in the story and interested to see where it goes next. I love when shows have morally gray villains where you are compelled to sympathize with them. But now I have to wait for new seasons D:

Spoilers and ramblings below!

My favorite episode has to be Cat Blanc. It is really well done, and sets us up for the emotional angst to come when everything inevitably gets revealed for real. I love the voice acting in it - was very powerful. Also I mentioned above about sympathizing with thr villains, but wow. This episode Gabriel made it very difficult. Like when they started telling us his motivations in the past few episodes, I felt sad for him. But I think it doesn't matter - he basically uses his son's popularity as a shield to hide his villainy. And he also was willing to put his son in danger multiple times using Lila so he could get what he wants. Like I don't think Gabriel is like this only because of losing his wife. I feel like he already was a stick in the mud bad parent or absent parent before she was gone. It seems like he has always been after power and control, and the way he behaves with Adrien shows this. Even if his wife was alive, I get the feeling he would still be the uppity rich dad who only wants his son to hang out with like his business partners and not common folk type of guy. So yeah, I sympathize that he wants his wife back, but he is a terrible person and father. Which is why Cat Blanc episode is so good, because it truly shows how hurt and devastating and dangerous the truth would be to Adrien - his own father has put him in danger and his friends in danger just to get his mom back. And Adrien is even moving on a bit, even willing to accept the possibility that his dad and Natalie are together, but of course, Gabriel is upset at the very thought since everything he is doing is for bringing his wife back.

It does make me wonder though - I never understood- if Ladybug and Cat Noir reveal their identities to each other, they'd have to give up their Miraculous per the rules or whatever. But in Cat Blanc, they know each other's identities and still get to transform. It is only after Hawk Moth reveals himself and finds out their identities that things go downhill.

I just love how dark the episode went. Cat Blanc's design is basically a palette swap, but it somehow works so well! The normally funny and peppy Cat Noir is now unsettling and cold. I really like his look as Cat Blanc. Some other poster said that what if his design wasn't simply because on akumatization, but what he would actually look like in like a final form. It has been stated many times that Plagg is very powerful. I think that is a really neat concept and makes me wonder what LB's final form would look like.

I had to rewatch the episode because the 1st time I missed so many details because I was so shook lol I watched it in English first, then rewatched in French because why not.

Ohh what really unsettled me was when Bunnyx is trying to see what caused everything to happen, you see that Marinette as LB drops off the present, Adrien sees her, and then Marinette comes out but her hair is down. I dont know, but her with her hair down there was very unsettling to me. I was reading that it may have been to show that she was symbolically letting her hair down like she finally said what she was hiding for so long. But the transition initially made me think it was someone else. But actually, it was good they did that, because it separated the present day LB from this messed up LB timeline with the visual change.

And it is a good set up for the later episode which I forgot the name of where Marinette, Adrien, and Kagami are hanging out together and Kagami loosens Marinette's hair in the ball pit and Adrien says it is the first time he has seen her with her hair down. Which reinforces that LB did save the timeline and world from destruction. You know what would have been interesting though, if he had said he had seen her with her hair down before but couldn't remember anything else. Bc we would then get some kind of Inception like scenario where oh no she didn't truly fix the timeliness! LOL I know thr show isn't going to go in that direction but it is fun to play with the ideas. This show has really been a creative inspiration for me, like I've felt more creatively charged to make things lol.

Anyway! I have seen all eps on Netflix plus the Christmas special. I think there were some additional specials that were only aired on D+? I'll have to find those too (I do have D+ so I'll see if they are on there.)

I'm excited to see where thr show goes! But honestly I don't know what can top Cat Blanc as an episode for me. I feel like it was even more intense and exciting than what the actual reveal might be - I kind of wonder with the pacing though - like if they revealed all of everyone's motivations straight up in the one episode, how is the true reveal going to play out? The only thing that hasn't been revealed at this point is what actually happened with Adrien's mom. Many people have already speculated that she was thr original Peacock miraculous holder which makes sense. But now got to know what were Gabriel and Emilie doing back then? And if Adrien's mom has only been gone a year, then Adrien got to spend a good amount of time knowing his mom, meaning that she was doing secret miraculous stuff before Adrien became Cat Noir potentially.

Also! Now knowing that Emilie has a twin Amelie who is definitely not a good person, I have to wonder what their family dynamic was like when Emilie was alive.

I feel like Gabriel was still a strict and distant father even when Emilie was alive. Sorry but with everything he has done, even though I can sympathize based on what we currently know, he is a horrible father and person hurting innocent people for his selfish wish. Like if Emilie was a good person and had a say in this, I doubt she would want this.

[madbug]

i may... have an idea. (btw @azuriteartist​ had a really good chloe centered au, the idea of rose as jason is absolutely hysterical 10/10)

okay, so in this AU, Alya is Eleanor. She wasn’t a bad person, but she wasn’t great. Most of Alya’s conflicts would revolve around her acting impulsively, and figuring out how to think about her actions, as she realizes that (wait this is the opposite of chidi lmao) that she never stopped to consider the consequences. She has excessive curiosity, and that leads her to her doom. She isn’t the “Alya” described by the afterlife, she just has the same name, and quickly realizes that she’s the wrong person, and doesn’t belong.

Adrien is Chidi. Alya asks him for help and he just can’t say no. That’s Adrien’s fatal flaw in this AU, he doesn’t say no. He’s a super nice person, and wants to help everyone around him, but it’s to the point of being self destructive. His conflict revolves around his relationship with his father, and how he did what his father wanted, and not what he wanted. Even afterlife, Alya asks him to help her be better, and Adrien just says yes, without thinking about what it might mean for him. Adrien puts on a mask, and helps people as “chat noir” and assumes that Alya, who is his soulmate is Ladybug (she’s not). He realizes that the woman he loves isn’t the one he’s assigned to love, and really starts to think about what he wants. 

Nino is Tahani. He’s such a cool, calm dude, I think he could make Alya insecure. (sidenote: i definitely kinda ship eleanor and tahani, if chidi wasn’t in the picture) Nino is genuinely a nice guy, and that makes alya feel bad about herself. Nino’s fatal flaw is 

Marinette is Jason. I thought about nino as Jason for a little bit, but like, nah, I really think Marinette would work more as Jason. Also, I think the concept is funnier. She would totally find a place to hide and be herself, get a videogame system and lie to everyone. She’s just super confused about everything that is happening. Like, none of it makes sense. When the senti-monsters start appearing, Marinette finds a mask, and throws it on, and does what she can to help people, lying to everyone about her identity. Marinette would have to pretend to be a nun maybe? under a vow of silence, but eventually she cracks and is like “Alya, you’ve gotta help me, I don’t belong here either” Alya takes her to Adrien who like... agrees to help her too. 

Adrien realizes he loves Ladybug/Marinette (with all of the fun lovesquare dynamics), and while he cares about Alya, what he feels is not romantic. Nino initally throws everything into declaring his love for his “soulmate” Marinette, who is uncomfy at the idea of soulmates, and doesn’t vibe with it at all. She ends up spending more time with Adrien than Nino and falls for him instead. Alya has admired Nino since the beginning, a sort of envy/jealousy, (im thinking they could have a minor enemies to lovers arc bc i love those) Alya throws herself into figuring out who “ladybug” and “chat” are, but eventually realizes that it doesn’t matter, and this kind of fruitless search for unobtainable knowldege was what lead her to die in the first place. 

I’m also thinking that the senti-monsters will appear as manifestations of the character’s flaws. (like, Alya on opening night could ruin Marinette’s pastries or whatever and then there are evil giant macarons attacking the world).

Janet: (Could be one of the Kwami. I like the idea of tikki as janet and plagg as michael) i’m thinking Kagami as Janet. (there can be a fun marinette/kagami subplot)

for Micheal: I’m thinking Nathalie. She can create the senti-monsters that way. I also feel like she is a villian with potential for change, initially she wants to make the four miserable but she becomes more and more sympathetic towards them. Shaun could be Gabriel.

and this is way too in depth i might have to write it oof.

(or alix could be eleanor, max could be chidi, chloe could be tahani, and kim as jason) okay as im thinking about this i  could come up with several aus i love the good place.

Someone figure out what a ML Good Place AU would look like.