#like in many ways I think Sauron is the one who invents catholicism in Númenor -- after a fashion

[child-of-hurin]

Vanimelde! Interesting! I think Míriel seems like the easy answer to many people (including me lol) coming from the angle of *what happened to them* but I think you had a good point approaching this question from *what they believe in*! I definitely hesitate at Ancalimë, the one who has the most brawling energy.

Tbh it never occurred to me that Míriel would be angry at Eru (pre-drowning at least), but it makes a lot of sense, and I've been thinking about that since I voted and saw the partial results of that pool!

Glad u agree about Ancalimë's brawling energy! Definitely see her younger self brawling other girls, but also sheep and goats 😜

Personally I can't really imagine a reason, in the way I see them, for the other women to be antagonistic to Eru; but because the King's Men are antagonistic to the worship of Eru, and because Vanimelde is queen when they are becoming socially relevant, it just seemed that way to me. Like why would Erendis, Ancalime, Telperien or Inzilbêth be mad at Eru? It seems to me that their issues are more material and social, immediate, and not with the natural order itself... It occurs to me now that this answer says more about *me* than about Númenor lol, probably one of those instances where you project your way of thinking without realizing 😜 But out of the queens, Vanimelde is the one whose rule seems to have faced the least controversy while she was alive, and we know she was interested in at least some types of art. Idk, just seemed to me she would be more attuned with the growing dissatisfaction with the metaphysical world happening in Númenor