#like if it was in character sure. but wtf is THISSSS
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i genuinely do not get shameless writers…if anything lip should be the most understanding towards fiona because she’s drinkinng herself to death quite literally and that was HIM a few seasons ago and rn hes a recovering alcoholic and a sponsor but he kicks her out of the house. come on
#and ik she fucks up the xan situation and gets his sponsee drunk on his 100 days sober and there is some responsibility for that but also#she wasnt aware in both situations like she did not know. and idk! half the season shes been drinking heavily and youd expect him to reach#out at any point but he just yells at her after this come on. shameless writers u suck 🖕#sorry i cant watch lip ian or fiona fight those are my 4lyfers. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE NARRATIVELY#like if it was in character sure. but wtf is THISSSS#z.txt
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shivaay’s animated gesticulating while talking to khanna has invited wife’s curiosity.
if only she had omkara’s super hearing waale powers.
girl pls, wyd???? don’t you know he has Awareness waale powers?
snort. he fulllly knows.
most amusing thing to me here: that shivaaaaay singh oberoi uses the cheapy sketch pens to write with, rather than fancy fancy pens.
fulllllllllllly setting her uppppp.
lol “love card”
his glee at fucking with her. idiot.
oh my heart, the little kiss for the card. ouff. this adorbz fucker.
oh shitttttt tanya’s gonna know that shivaay’s meeting with anika seeing the card!!! SHIVAAY YOU IDIOT!
hein? dekha tak nahi???
WHUT??? WHAT IS THIS KHANJAR DOING THERE? THAT TOO, WITH KEYS AND WHT LOOKS LIKE HIS TABLET? THAT’S AN ODD COMBINATION OF THINGS TO GROUP?
oh ho shivaay suchhhhhhhhh overacting. so not convincing.
“maine toh gadar macha di yaar!”
what’s this language?!!? since when does shivaay talk like this????
“mere rudy waale abs thode se flabs ban gaye.”
take your shirt off so we can see for ourselves. y’know… for science. 😏😏😏
“hum dono, dabaaa ke khaa rahe hai”
DUDE WHO WROTE TODAY’S DIALOGUES, SHIVAAY DOESN’T TALK LIKE THIS?????
why’s the parcel soooo badly packaged?
LMAO ANIKA IS SUCH A CURIOUS CAT???? SO DESPERATE TO KNOW.
repair ka samaan aise gift wrap hoke aata hai?
lol pfffffffffft.
anika not giving up hope. ek aur dabba hai. surely that has a gift????
(lmao khanna’s faaaaaaaaaaaaace.)
snort.
find someone who loves you as much as khanna loves shivaay. the true love story of this show.
bhavya has so many shady hacker acquaintances.
oh no, bhavya’s all dizzy.
charlie’s already a much better human being than rudra. within 30 seconds of his appearance. i choose him for bhavya over rudra.
richa has amazing hair. but hella bad dialogue delivery.
my ears hurt looking at gauri’s earrings.
lambe baal waale praani has arrrrrived in gauri’s des.
looking hellaaa fiiiine.
errrrrrrrr, that’s not kunal’s voice, is it???
ok that’s some hella extraaaaaaaaa dressing gauri. but damn, you look sooooooo goooooooood.
wow, what an amazing disguise, omki, a kadha and covering up your hair. YOU’RE UNRECOGNIZABLE.
woulda been more convincing if you just cut your hair. that woulda thrown her off, coz it’s such a non-omkara thing to do.
bhavya stoppppp nagging charlieeee
LMAO CHARLIE’S EXPERT HACKING IS SOME TRUECALLER TYPE WEBSITE HAHAHAHA. MUCH HACK. SUCH STEALTH. WOW.
pfffffffft. abhay strikes again.
dang pinky looking happier than she has in 6 months.
wow what devrani jethani bonding. idhar anika ne same to same outfit pehna hai that gauri’s wearing there in bareilly.
awwwwwwww, remember anika setting up the diyas last year, to bolna???? still the best song sequence in this show.
kesariya baalam looking prettyyyy goood! loving that his kurta matches anika’s outfitttttttttt!
oh ho anika, this utaavlapan for a gift is so not youuuuu!
god surbhi’s lost toooo much weight. bilkul haddiyon ka dhaancha ho gayi hai. someone feed this girl!
ugh these two are so attractive. how dare they.
pfffffffffffffft. anika still trying to convince him that she’s NOT. AT. ALL. HUNGRY.
“MOTI LAG RAHI HO!”
STOP BEING AN ASSHOLE, SHIVAAY!!!!
lmaaaaaaaaao “yeh luchi tuchi tanya jab dekho shivaay ke aas paas dengue waale machchar ki taraah kyun mandaraati rehti hai??”
tanya can’t handle the bhoooook. for her boyyyyyyfriend.
wow, this is the most animated tanya has ever seemed. maybe she should be hungry more often.
waise anika ki kya kismat hai, har karwa chauth pe, to snoop on some sautan or the other as she sneaks off to meet her real love interest.
DADI FUCK YOU THERE ARE SERVANTS IN THIS HOUSE FOR SUCH STUFF, SHE’S NOT THE FUCKING WEDDING PLANNER ANYMORE
oooooooooh secret hiding behind pillllarrrrr. i love.
OUFFFFFF JUST MEET HIM IN THE GARAGEEE GIRLLLLL.
“yeh kya tha?”
“tumne vrat nahi kiya na? sweet dish!”
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OMGGGGGGGGGGGG SCREAMING AND DYING THESE CUTEASS MOTHERFUCKERSSSSSSSS I WAS SO NOT PREPAREDDDDDDDD
abhay gonna get his ass beat by bhavya. and he deserves it.
oh nooooooooooo. he escapeddddd.
richa ka mangetar is so concerned and helpful. i like. lucky you, richa. you might have scored the best pati of all in this show.
“abhaagi chirraiyya” - gauri’s username on online forums.
SHUTTTTT UP MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU’RE SOOOO ANNOYINGGGG
hein? tanya toh pehle hi nikal gayi thi na? how’s she following anika now?
i feel like tanya’s talking about her un-bardaasht-able bhook, rather than shivika being sneaky. #relatable
why the scary intense mooosic???
oh hooooooo he’s doing the hairrrr thing. matlab badi baazi maar li hai.
lol she’s not even looking at the card he’s waving in her face.
yaaaas tanya, stab the f outta your shitty boyf.
who knew shivaay had such a DIY side to him, to make all this outta repair ka samaan???
i’d love to take a look at his pinterest board!
PFTTTTTTTTTTTT CARD KE ANDAR TOH AT LEAST I LOVE YOU LIKHA HOTA?!?!?!??!?! usmein bhi khaaali naam likha hua hai 😒😒😒
why’s she getting sooooooo impressed by that???
shakira. galli ke shakir bhai ke sister. snort.
shivaay’s a shakira fan? man, every day i think i know this man, and he fucking subverts my expectations.
shivaay is so ecstatic seeing jelly biwi. what a stupid nerddddddd.
ugh these two idiots. so stupidly in love. i love them soooo much.
aaaaaand gauri’s not so new man is making an entry.
of course bhavya’s gonna see rudra through this makeshift channniii of aunty’s dupatta. ugh. haaaate.
“that’s like MY GIRL!”
lmao that fakeass chand.
also why does everyyyyy karwa chauth scene have just thissss one song? oufff. bollywood needs to make some new karwachauth songs already.
haaaaaaaaaaye my beautiful babies.
lol sup sardarKara. what an unrecognizable disguise.
UGH. HATE. ALSO WHY IS THERE A RANDOM HOARDING OF RUDRA ON SOME ROAD SIDE?????
AND LMAO WHAT’S A “STILIST”?????
she just loooooooooves annoying him by throwing flowers, doesn’t she????
ok no, gtfo with this pair choona waala garbage.
he’s so overwhelmeddddddd. look at the fierceness on his faaace. i am weeeeping.
OH NO SCREEN IS GETTING BLURRY WHO’S FAINTING?!?!
OMG IT’S HIMMMMMMMMMMM
lovingggggg the reversal of last year and that she’s breaking HIS FASTTTTTT
god nakuul’s cough sounds awful and i hope he’s taking something for that.
biwi’s like stopppp being sucha chantumaiiiiiii. look at his little grumpyyy face.
um gauri…. you’re shitting meeee right???? HOW MANY MEN HAVE THIS SAME FACE? THIS IS SOME RAB NE BANA DI JODI BULLLLLLLLLLLSHIT.
lmao his punjabi tho.
…. he put ALL this effort (eyeroll!max) into the costume and not at all into the character background???? pft.
“main kaunsa diljit dosanjh hoon jo aap dekhte hi pehchaan jayengi???” lololol
LMAO GAURI’S WTF FACE
yeah gauri you’ve heard this voice. last time you heard it, it accused you of having an affair.
okkkkkkkkkkk he’s hella annoying.
OK SOME PREPARATION WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE OMKARA. YOU DIDN’T DO ANY WORK ON THIS AT ALL?!?!?! IS THIS ALL A JOKE TO YOU???????? YOU WOO MY GIRL THE WAY SHE DESERVES!
ugh. more cuteness here. JUST KISSSSSSSSSS ALREADY!!!!
aaaaaaaaaaand abhay’s the bairi piya. fucking hell.
OMFG TANYA GIRL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MAN IS WORTH IT. NOT EVEN CUTEEEE CUTEEEE ABHAY!
god. he’s sooooo fucking cute tho.
ugh what’s this sinister look???? does he not love her? you better not f my girl tanya over you cuteass fucker.
ok no, just badle ki bhaaavna waale looks.
but tanya doesn’t have the trishul waala tattoo?????
siiiiiiiiiiigh why you two like thisssssss? why can’t you just go be weird and cute together somewhere else?????
what haq???? who died in the fire???? or are you roop’s son??? WHO ARE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU??????
great. just great. he’s going to make shivaaaay fuck everything up. ouff.
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Hi!! I'm the one who asked the Vermont question the other week. Thanks so much for answering! I have a second question if you don't mind. :D Were there any plot points/scenarios that you or Santino originally wanted to include but didn't make it in? Or if any scenes were changed from the initial draft? I just really want to know the possible WHAT IFs that could've happened!!
Oh curses! I’m so sorry I was so slow to reply to thissss T_T I haven’t been on my desktop computer much lately, which is a real oddity for me but I keep watching shit on tv instead of being online lately. And my phone is the worrrrsssstttt for trying to write any sort of long response.
THERE ARE SOME VAGUE SPOILERS FOR ICOS BELOW!! WARNING WARNING!!!! I’m not putting behind a cut because it’s short (for me, anyway) and some people can’t get the “read more” link to work on mobile (myself included wtf).
I think we talk a little more in detail in one of the Q&As (don’t remember which one but I put most of them here if you want to peruse: https://aisness.wordpress.com/category/qa/) but yeah we did change things along the way and have to compromise at times on some of the plots. I super wanted to do a hardcore human experimentation thing with Boyd as a victim that Sonny was like “whoa there nelly, chill out a bit” on lol At one point he was thinking of a certain controversial lady in a book that isn’t Evenfall having Hsin’s baby and I wasn’t a fan of that for various reasons. Sonny wanted to kill off 3 of his characters at various points, 2 of which were a certain 2 fan favorites that I think the readers would have actually murdered us for killing. I wanted to kill Boyd at one point lol Things like that. Most of the time we were pretty in line with what we wanted to do, most of the time it wasn’t a problem, but when there were things that one of us really wanted to do that the other equally really didn’t want to do, usually we just discussed it over a long ass time because it took so long to write, edit, and release the story, and usually by the end of it we were on the same page anyway.
We definitely had to drop things too. I was going to have way more Seth in the last two books, really go more fully into that whole subplot and Boyd’s back story, but it just didn’t flow well. I’m pretty sure we ended up deleting an entire Thierry chapter/scene at one point because it didn’t flow or make sense? Maybe??? There were a few things like that but I can’t remember them all right now. We may have mentioned them in one of those Q&As or elsewhere, not sure. And of course there was the give and take of editing Evenfall from the original version to the DC version.
The biggest What If of the whole thing is that ICoS as it turned out to be was not at all what we first planned when we first started writing. If you’ve read the whole series, they mention a tv show in Fade called Grayson. It briefly overviews the plot of that show. Fun fact: Grayson was the original ICoS plot, which we changed a tonnnnn when we realized Boyd and Hsin actually had chemistry and would like each other instead of just being side character partners who didn’t really get along and definitely had nothing romantic planned. We thought it would be fun to do a little throwback by making a tv show in the ICoS world that was the original plan for the ICoS world instead. such meta omg wut
If you’re curious and haven’t seen it yet, I posted a bunch of old shit at one point on my blog here: https://aisness.wordpress.com/?s=nsvic -- including the AIM chat we had when we came up with the idea of ICoS (https://aisness.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/nsvic-wmhb-icos-conceived/) and when we named it (https://aisness.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/nsvic-wmhb-naming-icos/).
The super old skool original version of what ICoS was when we first wrote anything at all in the ICoS world WAS on our old forum, I thought, but I can’t find it now so idk what’s going on... I mean, I found the old ass forum. But the post I thought had the old versions doesn’t have the actual stories? Well, I guess you can still find some excerpts. Read this disclaimer from 2007 first: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonnyaisfr/icos-beginnings-v1-vs-v2-t50.html and then find excerpts here: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonnyaisfr/story-bonuses-f17/index-s25.html Keep in mind that stuff is old as hell, including our random posts we made in general on that forum. I have no idea what all was said by us or others because it’s been too long. Probably lots of shit was said that wouldn’t be said now but that’s how it goes.
Oh! But there’s a real treasure in the general chat section-- a number of us totally were doing these intensive Sims posts where we made our own ICoS Sims households and then posted what was happening, it was so great XD Here was the first person to do it, peach, but all her images are gone :( Link: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonnyaisfr/my-sims-let-me-show-you-them-warning-img-hvy-t36.html and then the others are: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonnyaisfr/simmies-thank-you-peach-for-the-awesome-idea-t145.html and https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonnyaisfr/more-sims-t190.html and then mine was https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonnyaisfr/sims-the-totally-not-official-old-skool-beaulieu-f-t178.html (iirc I did 2 or 3 different stories in that same thread over the months or years or whatever. I still have Boydtown on Sims 4 lol I should totally break that shit out again it was so great XD)
Anyway I made this too long already, sorry! Hopefully this answers your question at least a little, and sorry again for being so slow T_T
#ask ais#icos#in the company of shadows#long post#sorry guys this really did start out short#and then I just kept adding links and remembering old shit and....#i mean.....#¬_¬;#Anonymous
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