#like idk im so used to seeing these diagrams of retrograde motion that made the backwards motion seem like so obvious
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oflgtfol · 10 months ago
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anyway i lowkey wanna make a big masterpost and/or essay or whatever like as a handbook to night sky observing. not just in a like, here's how to identify constellations, but in the like. here's how to ground yourself here on earth and see the actual orbital configurations of our heliocentric solar system by simply observing planetary motions in the sky. and observe the fact that the earth is round by watching the motions of the seasonal constellations and draw some celestial sphere diagrams. etc
i'm like especially interested in archaeoastronomy lately because of these exercises in trying to generate an actual bodily intuition around astronomy beyond the math and programming that i learned in school, because it's like, this is the version of astronomy that existed for millennia upon millennia until technology advanced enough to make more complicated observations and conclusions. we literally only had our own eyes, bodies, and minds to puzzle it over for most of human history. and trying to recreate this in myself by teaching it to myself through brief stargazing sessions and many many sessions in stellarium in my free time is like, idk. really eye opening. it's one thing to be taught in school that yeah the earth is round and the sun is at the center of the solar system and there's other planets, and it's another thing to then do complicated math under those assumptions, and it's a different thing entirely when you actually then go outside and see with your own human eyes that those facts are true of the physical world you exist in. these aren't just abstract concepts but things that occupy the physical space that you live in
#and its also so fucking frustrating trying to puzzle out apparent retrograde motion and see it for myself in stellarium#and trying to then check my observations by comparing it to the officially calculated retrograde dates i find online#... and the only fucking websites hosting this information are all astrology websites#bitch i do not care about what mars in retrograde means i just want to See It In The Sky !!!#brot posts#astro posting#like idk im so used to seeing these diagrams of retrograde motion that made the backwards motion seem like so obvious#these big loops and shit#but then im sitting here staring at jupiter like. i dont see anything. wtf do you mean its in retrograde in october 2024 it's still fucking#moving westward even when not in retrograde what the hell#but then i had to zoom in and look at it relative to the background stars and its like. oh !!!#its in taurus and drifting eastward ever so slowly but then october happens and it starts drifting west towards the hyades#and its like such a small subtle movement i just kept missing it when i was zoomed all the way out#and now im like damn i cannot see it in real life outside stellarium because i cannot make most of taurus out with my eyes irl#i can only really see the hyades and the vague shape of taurus but i cant resolve the individual stars bc of light pollution#so its like. there's no real way for me to distinguish jupiter moving east/west night by night inside taurus then if i . cant see taurus#and so then after im done saying all this to myself im like. damn im in deep. lulz. no way i can explain this to another person irl
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