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Given that their composition changes so regularly, any team I currently support may be made up of completely different players, coaches, and administrators in five years. In what sense, then, will I be supporting the same team that I support now?
adam kadlac, the ethics of sports fandom
been thinking about this a lot lately, especially in relation to the growing trend of fans (in a variety team sports) supporting individual players as opposed to teams. what compels us to continue supporting a team even after the youngest player at the first match we watched has retired? what identity, independent of the players who make it up, does a team posses? even after players have been traded, coaches have been hired and fired, and ownership has changed hands, there remains some spirit so foundational to the being of the club that allows us to identify it as the same. this, i believe, is it's grounding in and connection to a particular place.
i find it particularly telling that the practice of supporting individuals over teams is perhaps most prevalent in sports where there is a concerted effort made to scrub away a team's sense of place to make way for sponsor based identities, such as formula 1. the sport's international nature and high team turnover rate (tied to sponsors, of course) likely also plays a part. what, then, is driving this change in other sports?
football has always been a sport where teams have been intrinsically tied to a place. while the player over team support trend has yet to become as prevalent in football as it is in some other sports, it does seem to be creeping in. this could be potentially chalked up to a number of factors. perhaps it's the globalization (read: mostly increased american interest, as the rest of the world has been playing football happily for years) of the sports, introducing fans who have no personal connection to the place a club is from, and therefore lack allegiance to the club. maybe it's the steady increase in foreign ownership of teams, to an extent where this erodes away at fan's visions of a club as a physical manifestation of the spirit of their hometown. perhaps stronger personal branding of players is a part of it; they're no longer simply an agent of the team, but an individual in their own right, worthy of being followed no matter where they go (there is something to be said here about the relationship between personal branding, increased sponsor opportunities, and the fact that having ten individual players shill your product is better than the singular entity that is the team). whatever it is, i do find it a little sad - it renders teams somewhat purposeless, empty husks whose only purpose is to house players, otherwise devoid of value.
#had a though. it expanded. have this weird condensed abstractish thing#in my mind there's a fat chunk after paragraph 1 where i actually prove the stuff about place w everything the server was discussing earlie#and like. a deep dive into the f1/broader motorsport aspect of it. and other sports where this is quickly happening#cycling mutuals do u see this happening? bc that's another team sport where team identity is mostly i think more sponsors based?#plus the fact that cycling teams function so differently...so many sacrificial guys all for one special guy#and tbh i feel like while this may be happening in football it's at a CRAWLING pace#which speaks to the clubs connection with communities#like bilbao liverpool barca ect are just SO ENTRENCHED and inseperable from their respective places#there is a chapter in this imaginary paper about team names. bc so so so many footy team names are THE NAME OF THE PLACE#or are super duper tied to the name of the place (arsenal ect)#side note do we think the prevalance of american arsenal fans has something to do with the lack of an overt place name in their title?#anyways. yes names. and when u look at sports where player support is happening faster it's the ones where hella teams are named forsponsor#probably something to be said here about saudi pro league naming convention (not place based at alll) and the general identity and existenc#but that's a whole nother nuanced discussion#ANYWAYS. if u read till here mwah ily send me ur thoughts#sports#squish speaks#sport + place
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Honestly:
The sigh of relief I gave when Ulysses mid-fight cutscene came up cause then that meant this was all scripted, Ulysses was supposed to be taking that much damage, meant to be cornered etc
Cause let's just say the line: "Please just crit-hit the fucking skeleton" was used... a couple times...
/lh/silly
#was doubting this mans pvp skills#you know how people yell a footie players. like what to do. it was likw that#probs cant talk though#my pvp probs isnt the most top teir#fable smp#fablesmpblr#fable smp ulysses
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this pic changed me as a man (I am so much more gayer since)
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long time no silly footy fanarts I've been doing comms and what not (I'm moving abroad lols) but have this lil smth I did in between before I head back out cheers!
#john stones why are you a man city player#hes so hard to draw istg#kinda like how this turned out though#been quite obsessed with him lately#john stones#manchester city#man city#mcfc#football fanart#my_art#v draws footy#just clocked that this pic was from when he scored against us 💀
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@takiki16 tags on my post are too good not to be shared! The context is wild shit that legit happened in IRL football ⚽ that I need the Ted Lasso fandom to be aware of, because it'd make for excellent fic material:
the MANAGERS #the PERSONAL DRAMA#I KNOW that ted lasso is not designed to be an actual realistic show #I KNOW that this whole thing did in fact begin as a way to soft trap Americans into watching the Prem #to the point that JOSE FUCKING MOURINHO ACTUALLY HAD A PART IN THE ORIGINAL NBC AD #I do NOT want to change the vibe of the show at all #(but like…a dramedy about the EPL that REALLY wanted to roast some fuckers would perhaps…NOT look like ted lasso #if they wanted to start with the managers it would just be two middle aged idiots with BOILING beef #who had to be physically restrained from throwing hands every other game and have personally destroyed each others’ marriages
Okay WHO would Roy have managerial beef with. I vote Arteta. Actually as @elizabear suggests, it's funnier if it's one sided
He would also instinctively dislike Rob Edwards of Luton because Jamie once said he's the hottest manager in the EPL. Roy's annoyed and he doesn't know why. (Rob Edwards is very hot)
For an example of managers throwing hands... the Tuchel/Conte handshake
In fact here's a whole compilation of managers throwing hands.
Thank you for bringing up Mourinho! This is his ad, btw. "What do you WANT Ted?" lives in my mind rent-free
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After much soul-searching I've decided Roy likes Mou a lot among all the managers he's played for. YES, he is a total cunt BUT
he's really fucking funny about it. Like, really.
he's never met a referee he didn't have beef with but most of all Anthony Taylor (as a Roma fan I have to agree with him on that)
the entire 2005 Chelsea team would've died for him. I've said this before, but there can't be a Frank Lampard in TL if Roy plays the box-to-box midfielder role, so this quote about Mourinho walking into Lampard naked in the shower to give him a pep talk? That's Roy. To me.
I can't even pick a quote among all the shit he's said about all the managers he's played against, but I especially enjoy when he used to be a bitch about Pep and Pep was like "I don't know her." It was like a one-sided crush dating back from their Barca days
#if they wanted it to be about the players the literal sky is the limit. WHATEVER the writers room can come up with#it cannot come CLOSE to the batshit drama that real Sockckckckcer Playahs have amongst each other#also intricate rituals. NOT ENOUGH INTRICATE RITUALS#when Jamie scored that free kick after getting permission to be a prick Dani should have kissed him with tongue
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#but TO COME BACK TO OP’S POINT ABOUT ACTUAL GAMEPLAY#I want to see Coach Roy get red carded and have to sit in the stands for the next game cursing and swearing
He'd get, like, 3 red cards a season MINIMUM. Mourinho who. Here's Klopp losing it a bit. Here's Pep being passive aggressive as fuck. Pochettino from 2 days ago. Also from last weekend: De Zerbi's "I don't like 80% of referees in England" he's so right for this.
Manager Roy would get himself red carded the week before Richmond play Chelsea away. Totally accidental. So he doesn't have to have a lil cry about it.
#I want to see what it would take to get Zoreaux sent off#and then they have to stick Bumbercatch in goal and it turns out he has some Hyper Specific Phobia about the situation#he manages to save the team but his coping mechanisms for dealing with Forcible Keeper Phobia make up the comedy B-plot of the episode#
I want CLUB RIVALRY. dunno where Richmond actually physically is but imagine if they had derbies#Ted has to be made to understand that no coach - for THIS game we will not stop till we see BLOOD#Richmond wins but bc they are playing away the home fans actively are tossing crap at them as they celebrate on the pitch#also the sprinklers come on and it’s a bus full of soaked greyhounds on the ride home
They're in West London! Maybe they just fucking hate Fulham. Or Brentford.
Actually, I've thought long and hard about Richmond's derby rivalries. Semi-canon sources say they have a bit of a West London rivalry with Brentford BUT to me it doesn't make much sense because Richmond are supposed to have been mid-table in the Prem for years, top-flight but mediocre. Brentford only made it to the Prem in 2021.
Actually, I've decided that Richmond kind of take the place of QPR for most of their history, except they didn't get relegated when QPR did. This is because 1) it'd be too many London-based clubs otherwise but, more importantly, 2) when Man City won their first title in 2012 with Agueeeeeero!!! that was against Richmond. It's funny, To Me.
Also you know Roy still fucking hates Newcastle from his Sunderland academy days. If his pundit career had lasted longer he'd be having top tier shithousery with Alan Shearer every week about it.
Anyway here's a whole youtube playlist about WILD derbies.
#ALSO BC SUAREZ IS COMING TO MIAMI - BITING INCIDENTS CAN THEY DO THAT
As an Italian I am legally obliged to SAY that if Suarez hadn't bitten Chiellini at the World Cup we would have gone past the group stage because Uruguay scored off a corner they won while Italy were all busy telling the ref that there was a fucking cannibal on the pitch. I don't forgive and I don't forget.
Anyway for context: cannibal Luis Suarez. He's a repeat offender. Someone at Richmond would think it was very funny
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#once again sticking this footie post in the tag#ted lasso#FIC AUTHORS I HOPE THIS INSPIRES YOU#tumblr user taakiki16 you're SO valid for those tags I love them#sports#i'm sorry re roy & mourinho it's just true. roy in his prime playing days wouldn't have cared about the cuntery#as a manager he wouldn't be shit to his physio but as a player? sorry it wasn't a deal breaker. he likes mou more than ancelotti. to me#ted lasso meta#i mean. sort of lmao#long post#afc richmond#roy kent#various irl footie people#futbol
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Louis might not be chucking bricks at No. 10, but people are responding like he’s never displayed leftist politics or challenged a government position on anything. He supported demands to the government about a fix for UK touring musician post Brexit and Marcus Rashford’s petition about food insecurity. He fought the police about their social media use in 2018 and criticised the UK government position/support for factory workers in the pandemic. The things he speaks about are usually UK issues and meaningful to him or his family and friends. He’s also most likely to speak when he isn’t working. Also that specific anarchy has a punk anti authoritarian message as well. That statement fits Louis pretty well. He has been a poster boy for not sitting down and shutting up and doing what you’re told since 2012. If he was he probably wouldn’t have a solo career and he definitely wouldn’t have sold out the O2.
I like this point about him speaking out more when he's not working, I think that's a really great and useful observation and makes so much sense. I feel like it makes sense in two ways right now: like first, I don't blame him for not wanting to do things that would jeopardize how beautifully everything is going for him right now after the number of setbacks and troubles he's had to get here, it must feel so precarious. And knowing for a fact that any political statement you make will spawn a dozen tabloid stories and all kinds of outrage is bad enough, but add to that the fact that it's simply impossible to predict which thing will turn into a huge viral mess- it's a lot. And second, he's not just working, he's been on TOUR! I've been around musicians my whole life and one constant is that tour is time outside of normal time and life, it's a bubble, it's only paying attention to right where you are and what's in front of you and the people there with you and everything else is put off and neglected, is for when you get home (and have massive post tour letdown depression and fatigue). I'm not saying he can disconnect with the outside world entirely... but putting everything on pause? I would be surprised if it were any other way, and I would be surprised if he's been following the news and counter news and so forth closely enough to feel comfortable speaking out publicly about anything when it will be so scrutinized and picked apart. I would add to your list supporting the rail strike (something we wouldn't even know about if it hadn't been tossed in as an aside by an interviewer in the print only version of a piece, he didn't post about it or anything) and attending and posting about the BLM protests (not to mention telling people to pirate his stuff come on how punk is that), and I agree he is much more likely to speak out about UK issues which makes sense: most people are most moved by issues that are close to their lives in some way, and it's his brand. And I agree that even though as an anarchist I love talking about what anarchism as a political ideology actually is, the symbol does also have a common meaning in the world as just basically standing for anti-authoritarianism, and Louis as a guy who rejects authority and the status quo is nothing new at all and one of the reasons we love him, and in the last few years I feel like he's been going further in that direction both aesthetically and politically, and we love to see it! Plus he has pretty much always sported this slightly punky aesthetic to some degree, even when he was being dressed up like a little ken doll he snuck in skater looks and indie band tees and so forth (something something it's part of why his fanbase was so primed to love his new sound and it wasn't the risk he feared it was because people were always drawn to him who were already into that aesthetic even when his sound wasn't that yet) it's not like it's just a brand new out of nowhere side of him or something.
#I'm not sure I would include the food petition on the list- I realize the bar is so fucking low#that supporting charities that feed children is considered political#but charity stuff is a different category for me... although rashford's specifically was#basically formed as a loud way of criticizing the govt for not doing more and explicitly linked to that... so yeah nm maybe that does fit i#even though its a charity org#I have actually been thinking s lot about how his footy fandom would be such a good way for him to sneak in some palestine support#he could just like a post by a player you know? instead of saying something#and it would still be a risk and a statement... but also one that could slide in like listen#I like posts by football players every day what?#or even jsut one about it being fucked up that so and so got fired by their club for making statements#so many layers of remove that could be ustilized#anarchism#comrade louis#blah blah blah#PS note for non brits (not that I am) number 10 refers to number 10 downing st the england equivalent of the white house basically so like#the government
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Not to wade into Discourse (TM) but the number of club legends that have been pushed out of their clubs in recent years through absolutely no fault of their own just has me so jaded and cynical about the idea of players sticking with a club in general but especially because they 'love' it or 'would be hated by the fans if they left.' While I WANT that to be the case football now is purely a business. While it's more to us as fans this is their job, they are not a family, and they will leave if they get a better offer. It's not a comment on their character if they do imo.
#see e.g.: Messi Hummels Reus Ramos#outside of some VERY high profile people this can apply to in the men's epl#im also seeing this pop up more and more in women's footie discourse and I find it so weird#no where is like the women's soccer leagues for the tension bw business opps and solidarity within teams#see also e.g. Miedema Sonnett O'Hara Sanchez#meso#woso#the sports#discourse#and for the record this is not to say people who ARE hurt by players leaving aren't justified in feeling that way#I just feel like people are so worked up about certain players in contract talks and im just like.....well yes
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Strahliana sketches (Mostly Conell and Ahleri, but look Zhahara’s here too!)
#Strahliana#Conell#Ahleri#Zhahara#ellennart#ocs#Zhar is like 5ft nothing and Aheri’s almost 6ft#Conell only has like 2 inches on Ahleri if that#Ahleri’s built like a pro netballer and Conell like a footy player#Zhahara is the odd one out third wheel in multiple ways lol
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Saw these two pics come up back to back on my dash and I just had to
#their death stares#carlos sainz jr#trent alexander arnold#f1 x footy#am I going to compare Carlos to every single Liverpool player yes I am#sainzpool#I can’t think of a nice name for them though like szobosainz and salahsainz. what is this. sAAinz?#scousesainz
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whoever requested the wta footballer au for the tennisblr promptfest...................
#i have so many ideas.#heres the problem though im getting too in my head about it because i would want to make it 'realistic'#in terms of like who would end up where and what teams are actually good#but unfortunately a lot of the countries that are good at football dont have very high ranked tennis players...and vice versa#poland did just qualify for the euros which is their first ever major tournament!#but like rus is banned italy is ok but a hot mess czechia is just fine belarus sucks#spain is good but then i'd have to write paula and i do not want to lol#australia? but what wta aussies are there. besides saville??#brazil obviously but idk do we even pair bia with anyone. she and iga are good friends but. hm.#caro garcia fell off the face of the planet which is unhelpful so france is kind of a no go#and germany haven't had a proper good wta player i think the entire time i've been watching tennis#same with the netherlands#china was good but fell off majorly in the 2010s. only coming back more recently so idk.#maybe interesting but i dont like navarro enough to write her and tbh i cant imagine another pairing for qinwen#whos left in footy. ENGLAND? i cant ship katie with anyone she and alex are like the golden couple in my mind#and i dont know enough about emma i think to properly write her#though wait..........CANADA. hm. let me cook here.#obviously wayy glossing over the americans here but thats because the main pairings i would probably do#are blocked by 1) greece being ass and 2) not wanting to write navarro (see above)#also the fact that my brain is screaming the whole time that half of these players are too tall to logically play anything other than gk#obviously this is all so irrelevant. u bet ur ass im gonna be writing this anyway.
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my dad is angrier than me atp I'm just so tired
#what do we even do to remedy this?#injuries alone cannot explain the absolute magnitude of how bad we are playing#it's like the players have lost hope or something#footy rambles
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just saw the news that a forest season ticket holder was charged with racially aggravated disorderly conduct and banned after levelling racist abuse at sonny. it’s honestly horrid that this keeps happening season after season and it’s also reported on in such a low profile way in comparison to other such incidents (obviously all incidents like this deserve outrage and proper high profile reporting). sonny’s had to deal with this specific kind of racism being the most visible asian player in football his entire career and i think people underplay not only the effect that must have on his mental health but the fact that stuff like this is institutional and a huge barrier for other asian players to break into the top flight
#it’s such a double edged sword when people like you are invisible but YOU are the visible one#it’s not comparable but i’ve frequently been the only poc/south asian in spaces#where not a lot of (south) asians specifically are expected to be and it’s strange#because you are invisible in the sense that nobody expects you to be there#and so they don’t take racism against you seriously but also you are the most visible one#so the racism is levelled towards you in such an insidious way#and i suspect for sonny it’s much the same there are no support networks in place for asian footy players in the top flight#etc etc. he’s paving the way himself it’s so heartbreaking to me
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i just heard my dad say the words "homophobic slur" and i've never been more fucking shocked in my life
#they were talking about footy players i think#i didn't hear#all i heard was that and . what the fuck#my mum said something like 'good he should've' and idk if she meant saying the slur or if he got kicked or something l#I'm so confused
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life would be so amazing if robbo posted regularly on his insta
#like cute fits#“dropping the kids off”#a pic of a glass of wine captioned “its five o'clock somewhere right? 🤣🍷”#liverpool fc#liverpool#lfc#andy robertson#i miss when footie players would jus post the maddest things#like it was their private insta#now its just business#with some goofy activities on the story every so often#😔
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I opened ig for a pretty serious matter (wanted to find again some tea on how much of a fascist carva*al plus some others in the spanish nt are, it's even worse than I thought y'all) and I saw benji's post first thing and look 1) happy for them 2) they are the biggest bi panic nightmare thank you for nothing
#he's pretty as usual yeah yeah yeah but also...she's a goddess leave me#also so funny I never expected an official post from him and yet!! i love people being happy#like genuinely my irl people and friends you guys even the footie players of my team. u happy? please I support happiness
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One of them has 4 kids at 27 and the other is hoeing around at 27 💀 no but I swear these footballers are trying to create their own football teams, there’s no other reason you’d want that many kids at such a young age 😭
not the whore allegations shdbsjsj but that’s what I think too like… you’re still young…you have time you don’t have to make all these kids😭 do they know something we don’t
#answered#to each their own ofc and ik they have the money n resources to have kids so ofc they don’t think like most ppl do but still…#there’s 19+ yr old players who are parents n im just like🥴#it’s footie culture at this point i guess lol
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magnus cort nielsen to uno-x is an unexpected and fascinating move. it looks like uno-x is gonna go for a WT license or at least for regular WCs in big races. feels fitting that denmark should have a big team given the impressive number of elite danish riders in the peloton nowadays. magnus is truly one of my favorite riders and i hope he shines in his new team!
#i love that cycling is a small enough sport that small teams can at least hope to rise to the top#if they get the right investments and team management#like how alpecin became absolutely elite just by getting mvdp and being competent at team building#there's sporting interest in cycling transfers! football cant relate#meanwhile footy transfer market is just media shitshow and big teams setting fire to massive amounts of money#that post that went 'the romance of sports vs. the business of sport'#the romance of football has been dying for me day by day sadly#when its biggest star is willing to throw away a year of his career bc of a loyalty bonus#and players like verratti are going to saudi after barely turning 30#you start to feel silly for ever giving a fuck since the actual athletes clearly dont#anyways sorry#im mourning a sport that i used to love today
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