#let her maim and torture and kill as much as evan if she so wishes!!!
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morsmortish · 5 months ago
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pandora rosier is not gentle and sweet and delicate. she may look like a beautiful victorian doll, but in reality she is like one of those sets of matryoshka dolls, where you open one up to see another inside. the outside doll may resemble a fragile looking, doe-eyed beauty, but the one inside is a Terrible Person. she is selfish and vicious and only acts for the sake of herself. she is not airy and dreamy and kind (she is not luna!!!), and she is capable of unimaginable cruelty towards those who wrong her. she is the definition of morally grey: she is not outwardly evil, she does actively seek to destroy the world, but she would not risk a thing to save it either. she is ruled by a sick sense of self-preservation, and she makes decisions based off of what is best for her or for those she loves. she is perhaps less sadistic than her brother, and finds less enjoyment in the torture and killing of animals in the back of their family garden, but she does find it fascinating. she observes evan when he experiments, and she will always be the one to clean up after him, carefully wipe the blood off his face, hide the evidence, bury the corpses. she holds no reservations against the atrocious acts he commits, both towards those animals but also later in life as a death eater, and if she wasn’t so concerned with protecting herself, perhaps she would have joined up. she certainly never cared either way if he was murdering innocents or not. she is beautiful on the outside, both of the twins are, but both of them are also rotten on the inside.
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kassandrasdisciple · 14 hours ago
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TMA ENTITIES X DBD KILLERS
Strap in cos this is gonna be a long one. I'm not going to do all 38 at once because that would actually kill me. So I'm gonna do 10 at a time, covering the original killers. I might cover the licences but then it becomes an argument on how much of their OG representations to include.
The vibe is what Entity I think the killers would serve. Not who they'd be victims of. I.E. I think The Legion would be targeted by The Loney but wouldn't serve it. This is the killers as avatars basically.
With all that out of the way, let's get into these justifications, as always if this has been done before or you have your own interpretations please let me know!
The Trapper
The Slaughter
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Starting off hard. In DBD lore Evan doesn't want to serve THE Entity so you could argue none, however I think the most suitable TMA Entity would be The Slaughter.
His kills aren't personal, he commited mass murder, before that he didn't hunt individuals, just punished those who stepped out of line. Even then it wasn't to cause death or for cruelty, he killed as a means to an end. On the other side, he still sees people as people, he didn't view them as flesh to abuse and use.
Because of these action pre-realm, and his impersonal use of beartraps, which maim at random, I think he has similar vibes to the Entity of war and apathetic harm. I could see the argument for The Buried because of how he killed the miners, however I have a much better fit for Too Close, I Cannot Breath.
The Wraith
The Buried
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Poor Philip. He also didn't want to be a killer, he spent his life buried. He escaped a war-torn country, he worked a dead-end job, and he literally spent years crushing people to death, with his first and final intentional kill being via crushing aswell.
I don't think he fears The Buried, if he fears an Entity it would be The Slaughter because of his childhood, I think him learning about his accidental murders but then immediately lashing out and inflicting that on his guilty boss shows he embraces The Buried. I think Choke is the best fit for Philip.
The Hillbilly
The Flesh
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Also another tragic character. Max was defined by his flesh. I believe by the time he's taken into the realm he's truly internalised The Flesh. We see this in his killing style and home map. His weapon is a chainsaw he uses to butcher and rend, and his realm is a farm covered in slaughtered animals and an abattoir. Hillbilly isn't scared of The Flesh anymore, now he wishes to make everything into meat.
The Nurse
The Spiral
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I don't think I can keep calling all the killers tragic ...however. Sally also went through the wringer, she lost her husband, worked in an asylum until the things she saw broke her mind and she strangled 54 people. They find her rocking back and forth sobbing, after completely losing her mind.
However she's not just heavily marked by The Spiral, but she also perpetuates it. It's Meta-Lore that Nurse isn't a normal killer, even compared to other teleporting killers she's on another level, she breaks the game formula, you can't loop normally, she truely is not what she seems. Also I can definitely see a Helen Skin for her, add a door opening animation for her blinks and *chef's kiss*
The Hag
The Desolation
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I swear they'll start being less sympathetic soon. Lisa honestly just got screwed over. Was she messing with magic beyond our mortal comprehension? Yes. However that is not a crime, just very Jonathan Simms-coded. Anyways Lisa wouldn't serve The Desolation, however The Hag? The Hag was born after Lisa was tortured, mutilated and starved, and when she got her freedom she chose revenge, she called down calamity on the cannibals and reveled in their deaths.
In the trials The Hag doesn't prioritise quick deaths, she slows down gens, she forces you to hunt down hexes. She wishes to prolong the suffering of the survivors that the Entity makes look like her kidnappers. She has become an Avatar of retribution and cruelty.
The Doctor
The Spiral
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See I told you they wouldn't all be tragic characters. Herman is fucking Evil. He didn't have a tragic childhood, he was a child prodigy, he was published as a teen, got into Yale, was set up for being a normal person. However, the CIA gave him unchecked access to prisoners and suddenly the Geneva convention was his personal checklist.
Whilst torture is very Desolation-core, he "excelled" in psychological torture, to the point where even CIA torturers thought he was going to far. DO YOU KNOW HOW BAD YOU HAVE TO BE TO HAVE THE CIA GOING "yo chill". To The Spiral with you Herman, you Doctor David dupe.
The Huntress
The Hunt
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I lied the sympathetic characters are back. Good news though, we're not staying here long. She's The Hunt. Duh. She does protect her isolation so you could argue Lonely, however, she's not really got the social development to know what being lonely is, in her mind she's just protecting her territory. The Hunt for you Anna, go forth and prosper.
The Clown
The End
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Oh the creepy ones are back. Kenneth/Jeffery is also really hard to place. Because he does a lot of weird shit. He followed the psychopath playbook, killing birds, small animals, then people. He collects FINGERS which he LICKS. This is going to be controversial but I'm gonna put him in The End, I don't like that he shares the same Entity as my baby Oliver, however I think it fits the most.
He doesn't kill for cruelty (Desolation) or the chase (Hunt), but it is personal (not Slaughter), he kills because he just really enjoys killing. He likes killing and ending lives so much he went from track-star to Clown, he collects fingers as mementos. Truely he has a passion for graphic murder. Out of these 10, Clown is the one who enjoys killing the most.
The Spirit
The Web
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I'm still salty that Rin is a killer. Glad she's not a survivor though, but I just want my girl to have peace. Rin noticed her family's decline from her mother's health and her school bills, but she didn't confront her father directly. Instead she gets a job to help support the family, she also looks after her mother. Now, this might just be me seeing her as Martin-coded. However, her more subtle approaches in trying to alleviate her fathers burdens seems very Web.
These small changes didn't save Rin though. Her father snaps, he kills her mother and brutalises Rin. In her last moments she begs for control, to not let this be how her story ends, for the power to avenge her mother and kill her father. And something answers. Truely, if Rin was in the TMA world I think it would've been the Mother of Puppets that answered her.
Her gameplay let's her psych out survivors, tracing scratch marks, and ensnaring her chosen prey with Rancor. Lastly her family tree (or family Web if you will) is part of the reason she's in the realm, her convoluted history linking her to The Oni.
The Legion
The Hunt
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I tried to limit repeats, however just as Nurse and doctor are so obviously The Spiral. The Legion are just as Hunt as Huntress. Whilst Anna is more akin to Daisy, a lone wolf, the 4 members of Legion are exactly like the Hunt domain of MAG: 176. They look to Frank as their leader, always checking for weakness, when Susie tries to resist stabbing the janitor, they take her hand and guide the knife into the cleaner's throat.
They Hunt together, they're game mechanics include an animalistic frenzy, and they do it for the thrill, the final stop of a past of vandalism, bullying and theft. I think if the Entity hadn't taken them they most likely would've gone down a similar road to the murder club of MAG: 112.
And that's the list! Obviously the argument could be made for all of them to be Web or Desolation as they all serve the same insect-esque dark god, by causing eternal suffering. However that's boring, and a direct cognate to that doesn't exist in the TMA universe (maybe the things that were fear?). If you disagree with any choices lemme know. I'll probs do the next 10 (from Plague to Skullmerchant on the dbd wiki) soon-ish.
Until then, thank you for reading!
< Icons and art came from the dbd wiki and Grace Holsten's tumblr respectively >
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