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People are saying things like 'my transmasc awakening was doing male cosplay' or 'my transmasc awakening was realising I was a tomboy for a reason'
Bitch my transmasc awakening was doing an anime voice acting challenge in which I managed to emit the most masculine growly Bakugo Katsuki style "OI OI OI"
And then realising 'holy shit I sound good as a man- WAIT THAT'S NOT VERY CIS OF ME TO SAY'
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It's glaringly obvious how lacking in independent thought tinhats are. Without Abby to temper their reactionary hate and tell them what to think and feel, they're just spewing random whining. When Abby was around she immediately jumped on anything Mia and filtered it through her cc-lens to ensure everything they disliked pointed back to Darren's misery narrative to justify their hate. Now, they're just a ranting bunch of petulant butthurt fans throwing tantrums for not getting what they want.
YES! Isn’t it interesting? So much has changed. Abby left Tumblr on 2/16- since then the fandom- Cassie, Flowers, Leka, Awesome, and Chrisdarebashful have collectively had 31 asks-2 which I sent. That isn’t very many- especially after such a big fandom shakeup. In contrast, I have 27 asks to answer just tonight. The tone has changed -the leaders who are left answering asks are just mimicking Abby’s words with little thought of their own. That is only going to work for so long. I don’t think the people who are left actually hate Mia with the veracity that Abby does so it will be interesting to see whether they jump of every single thing she does - like breathing and existing- or if the fandom goes back to being a little bit more about Darren.
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The Forest
So here’s the first chapter of something I’ve been working on for a few months (called The Forest). It’s really important to me. It’s fantasy and sorta....weird in how magic is used i suppose? One of my teachers really liked it so...here we go I guess
Chapter 1 - Nav
The village was alive as the sun shone brightly in the sky, approaching midday. The smells of meats cooking and yells from sellers claiming to have meats from dragons and snacks made of fae were carried on a refreshing cool breeze through the marketplace. A tall figure in the crowd rolled his eyes as the sellers claimed to have meats that could only be found in the forest, which was too far away from the meat to be fresh unless one of the few mages in town had transported it. Pulling his bag closer to his body to stop anyone from attempting to pickpocket him, he moved his way through the crowd and onto a side street of the busy market, his pace too fast to be a leisurely stroll. He made his way out of the village, the buildings far behind him, not even a full hour after he had gotten out of the market. He looked around at the knee-length grass and random wildflowers that lit up the meadow.
He got off of the trail that had lead him out this far and took the bag off of his shoulder, running his fingers on the worn leather, until he opened it and took out a blanket with “Nav” stitched in the corner. He grinned at the handiwork put into stitching his name into the blanket, done by his late mother. He stretched out his arm and moved it forward swiftly, focusing on a patch of grass. The grass shrank back into the earth until it barely came up to the sides of his sandals, leaving a perfect square for him to lay the blanket on. He laid out the green blanket and sat in the middle, pulling out a leather water canteen. He took a long drink and pulled out a meal that had been packed in a rush that was in a transparent green bag. He took out half a loaf of bread, a hunk of cheese, a breast of one of the wild birds that lived in the meadow, a jar of sweet berry spread, and the most expensive item of the lot, half a bar of chocolate that was produced in the royal city, meant for the mages that used their energy to much to let themselves eat a full meal after an hour of work.
Nav took out a knife and cut off a piece of bread before spreading some of the sweet berry onto the slightly warm bread. He bit into it, the sweet taste filling his mouth and made him smile as memories of his mother filled his mind, her soft skin and hair that was a mixture of blue and green. He finished the bread and was once again at the full energy he had approached the meadow with. He crossed his legs and took in a deep breath, closing his eyes and feeling all of the potentials he could do as a mage. The plants were something he could meld. He could grow flowers out of the smallest hint of plant life. When he was able to control his magic, he was happy.
Sometimes he couldn’t control his magic. It was all in his feelings. Before his mother passed, she told him how her magic went out of control the first time she saw his father, and so did the man she eventually had a family with. Nav shook away the thoughts of his mother and focused on the present.
He could feel everything that he could control. Plants, a distant fire coming from his village, and the river that ran through the meadow. The fire’s energy grew and grew, making Nav worried, He opened his eyes and looked up to see smoke coming from the direction of his village, large plumbs that looked like storm clouds. He rushed to pack up everything he had gotten out and ran back to the village. He could sense that the fire kept on growing, at a faster rate than any house fire that had happened. The closer he got, the more smoke he saw, filling the sky and blocking out the sun, And then he saw the fire that was consuming his village and on the far side there was a dragon. Not the kinds that were pes or the ones that were killed. It was large, easily able to crush the entire village if it wished to do so. Instead, it was spewing fire onto the village, destroying buildings as people tried to escape, only to be killed by the flames. Nav watched in horror as the village he had spent his entire life, the place where his mother was buried, the place where he found who he was, being destroyed. He felt tears rushing down his face, but instincts kicked in and before he knew it he was running down the trail lead to the closest town. At a normal walking pace, it would take a day. But Nav was running, his tears falling as his feet hit the ground in a steady beat. His family was dead. His father, his sisters, all of them. They had to be
His pace slowed down after half an hour of running, and he stood on the trail, gasping, trying to catch his breath. He could hear the river close by and decided to stop to think about what he would do once he got to the town. It was an average sized town, by the name of Dell that he could find a royal guard in. He could inform them of the damage. He walked over to the bank of the river and pulled out his canteen and filled it up. He set the canteen aside after it was filled and splashed his face, feeling the cool water soak into his skin. He looked down into the river at his reflection, a thin, pale face covered in freckles. His hair was long and tied in a tail. It was mostly green but if he were to take it out then the blue and red would be shown.
He caught his breath and stayed by the river for a few minutes to gather his bearings. When he got up, he saw an old man on the road walking from the now torched village. The man was old with green hair. He turned and saw Nav and before Nav could react, a vine had wrapped itself around his waist and pulled him to the man
“You saw the dragon. I saw you run away from River’s Mouth. I need you to do something, please the entire nation of Meela depends on it,”
“I’ll be more likely to help you if you put me down and either let me get my stuff by the river or get it for me,” Nav said as he struggled against the vine.
The man let him go and Nav’s items were brought to him. Nav began to pack up, hoping to just use the water from his canteen to push the man away while Nav ran to Dell. But before he could open the canteen, the old man shoved some papers into his hands.
“These are...military plans?” Nav said as he looked at the papers.
“Yes, the Dragon Val and her daughter Leka are trying to take over Meela. I need you to go give these papers to the queen. They’re onto me and I’m afraid I won't be able to make it to the royal city alive. Please, child.” The old man looked at Nav with a look he knew. The old man was pleading, begging Nav to take the papers.
Nav placed the papers in his bad and nodded to the old man. “I’ll do it”
“Thank you so much. If you just get to the city and show the first page to a guard then they will have to take you to the queen. Now go, I’m going to try and slow down the enemy but speed is key. Take this money. I have no use of it”
The old man pulled out a coin purse that was bulging with money and put it into Nav’s bag before turning away.
“Wait, what’s your name?” Nav said as the man began to walk away.
“You can call me Ven..” The old man called as he walked
“Thank you for your help Ven.”
“Don’t thank me yet, child. Get those plans to the Queen and then you can thank me.���
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August 12, 2021 - Post One
Okay, so I want to talk about this puzzle for a second.
It’s fun. It’s purple. It’s Pee-Wee’s Playhouse. It’s pretty much a vast number of things I love in life all rolled up into one singular item. It’s also challenging in such a way that almost makes it oddly poetic, in a way. I don’t know about you, but when I do a puzzle, my standard method is to complete the outside first and THEN I’ll go in and start filling in the spaces in between. Sometimes, I’ll start with a color or a pattern that I find most appealing. Other times, I’ll try to start from a specific side. Regardless, I always do the border before the middle. That’s what I tried to do with this puzzle. However, that you -can’t- really see is that this purple background isn’t a solid purple. There are constantly changing patterns. Big. Small. Triangles. Dots. Houndstooth. These vast and seemingly random changes in background have challenged my traditional puzzle methods. One minute, I’ve got the border, but the next I have to work on Pteri or Magic Screen. Oh, I thought I was going to finish Konky? Just kidding, we have to do Jambi and his box now. It’s testing my patience and determination, but I know it’s going to be amazing when I finish — you know, much like the situation I’ve found myself in now with this journey that I’ve begun. It’s challenged me in ways that I’ve never even thought possible and it’s tested me SO much already, but it’s also going to be amazing once I see the finished project. Meka Leka Hi, bitches.
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Since I really love rain, Let's create poem in malay (haha, intro kemain english) 😆 Random thought. 😚 Hujan, Ku renung hujan, Titisan nya memaksa makhluk tuhan mencari tempat berteduh, Begitu juga insan saat titisan ujian bertamu, Lekas pula mereka mencari teduhan, Berteduh lah insan, Dibawah lembayung Tuhan, Kelak kau bakal menghayati keindahan ujian, Tidak sekali kau lemah saat dilanda taufan, Kerna keteguhan, Kerna kepercayaan, Hanya pada yang Satu iaitu Tuhan. Hujan, Nelayan berkeluh kesah, Petani mensyukuri titisan yang membasah, Lantas zalimkah Tuhan menghadiah kan hujan, Pantaskah di soal tentang hujan, Mungkin engkau gelisah, Akan tiba saat engkau syukur dengan hujan, Usah dipandang pada mata kasar, Kelak tersasar, Padanglah dengan mata hati, Ujian bertamu perlu di hayati, Bukan diratapi. #081317 #imie
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Jadi gini ....
"its not the end of the world." thats what my friends told me back then when i felt the biggest lost in my life. yap yap, i lost my first love. i lost my father.
the news just kicked me so hard. the pain's just too much. i cried so hard till i didnt feel my eyes. i didnt even know anymore who're hugging me and sending me their support and cares. whoever you were, thanks :)
tapi, ini bukan tentang perasaan kehilangan yg dirasakan seorang anak. because i do realize that everyday, theres always everyone who shares the same pain as me.. and im sure that all of us are strong enough to face the reality and keep going .. not forgetting, just keep moving on your life, do your best and make your loved ones proud ..
ini tentang skenario Allah yang Maha Luar Biasa..
so, here the story..
i've known this man since the early 2018. we've been in the same organization back then. ukm aksi sosial.. yup, both of us were volunteers there. however, there wasnt anything between us. we were good acquintances, let me say. i -with my own circle & him -with his. sometimes we chatted, but there was nothing more.. okey its not sometimes. several times..
talking bout him its like talking bout things that so not me. quiet, calm, a typical talk less do more. and one more, he's taking his major in electrical engineering. yups, he's definetely typical "anak teknik" whos so not "nyastra", like me..
banyak hal yang seringkali kita beda pendapat. dia dengan segala rasionalitasnya dan aku dengan imajinasi dan optimisme yang kebacut absurd. aneh lah pembicaraan kami tuh. tapi ajaibnya, we built the bridge !!! nyambung juga kita mas xD
sebulan setelah kepergian Bapak, sekitar tanggal 19 november 2018, dia suddenly berani meningkatkan komunikasi kami dg picking me up in the airport (i was flying from bali back then) ! syok aku tuuh .. thats the first time for us, being in the same car, just the two of us, talking bout random things till we dropped on the beach around bantul (apalah lupa namanya, acara aksos pokoknya).. thats also the first time for me kenalan sama keluarga mas, eyang Sar .. halo eyang :)
so, whats happened next?
pokoknya segala sesuatunya seolah mudah setelahnya. perasaan tenang2 aja yang aku rasa sampai dg hari ini aku anggap persetujuan dan jawaban Allah untuk setiap doa Bapak dan Ibu yang pingin anaknya lekas ketemu jodoh.. thats true ! no deg-degan ala remaja labil, no telfon2an tengah malem, no inget2in makan blablabal, and no keluar malem berdua gandengan tangan makan di pinggir jalan. we skipped them all !!! (ya sebenernya pingin jugaa.. tapi gapapalaah buat kamu aku korting mas)
once, i thought that everything’s just moving too fast, but it turns out that, we're just doing the right thing on the right time (insyaAllah), and Allah's opening His way so that we could go smoothly .. hehee thank God
so, a month after the ride he gave, berapa belas desember gitu, dia ngajak jualaaan ! eh enggak ding.. he asked me to be his partner in life and the afterlife. well, stupidly i just said "boleh..." dengan muka oon ala aku.
ooouuhke, whtvr the word i chose, thank you for not changing your mind Sir :3
that day, under the moonlight waiting for our friends to come home, taking care of you and listening to your dreams and wishes, i knew i can live with that :)
thank you for choosing me over other girls outside.
from me to you :)
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Agak berantakan.
Entah ini hanya gue atau orang lain diluar sana yang berpasangan juga merasakannya. Tetapi ketika hubungan kalian akan menginjak umur satu tahun, entah satu atau dua bulan sebelumnya, pasti agak sedikit goyah. Iya, atau iya?
Setidaknya itu yang sedang gue rasakan sekarang.
Random thoughts gue yang lain adalah, siapa bilang perempuan itu rumit? Sejauh yang gue jalani dan hadapi, laki-laki adalah manusia dengan isi kepala yang jauh lebih luas dan kompleks. Dan mungkin untuk sebagian perempuan, mereka akan merasa bingung untuk memahami cuaca laki-laki yang berubah-ubah ini.
Pernah juga gak, kalian para perempuan menghadapi fase ketika pasangan kalian meminta waktu sendiri? Entah itu untuk me time, atau entah pasangan kalian menghadapi fase yang namanya Quarter Life Crisis. Apa yang akan kalian lakukan? Bingung? Pasti. Sedih? Hmmm, kalau kalian tahu apa yang dia hadapi, sebenernya gak perlu sedih, sih. Aneh? Kecewa? Perasaan-perasaan seperti itu pasti ada. You will face a god damn mixed feeling everyday until he clear the air.
Iya, pasangan gue sekarang sedang mengalami fase itu. Bagaimana cara gue menghadapi itu semua? Padahal di awal semuanya terasa membingungkan. Sejauh yang sudah dilewati, fase pertama adalah fase dimana kita berdua sama-sama bingung. Dia bingung dengan apa yang terjadi dengan dirinya, dan gue bingung harus bersikap seperti apa. Di fase ini kita berdua sama-sama saling mengerti, yang satu mencari, yang satu menjelaskan, ditarik benang panjangnya dan akhirnya ketemu titik akar permasalahannya. Tentunya harus sabar. Menangis-nangis diperjalanan adalah hal yang wajar. Setelah fase pertama dilewati, tentu semuanya akan kembali normal. Tetapi bukan berarti Quarter Life Crisis dari pasangan gue sudah hilang sepenuhnya, ya. Itu masih akan tetap ada karena memang QLC ini kebanyakan dialami pria umur 25-30 tahun keatas.
Datanglah fase kedua. Gelombangnya lebih besar. Pertanyaan yang datang ke dirinya makin sulit dijawab. Mencari jawaban kesana kemari juga gak bakal ketemu karena itu adalah masalah yang harus ia jawab sendiri. Di fase kedua, pasangan gue sudah terlalu merasa tertekan dan butuh memiliki space untuk bernafas. Space ini ya maksudnya untuk menjernihkan pikirannya, tentang apa-apa yang ia khawatirkan, tentang kemana arah hidupnya mau ia bawa. Masalah-masalah ini bukanlah ranah gue atau orang lain disekitar dia untuk menjawab dan memberi solusi, melainkan dirinya sendiri. Jadi jangan merengek kalau pasangan kalian minta me time, sebelum kalian memutuskan untuk saling menjaga jarak, pastikan kalian sudah mengetahui permasalahannya dengan jelas dan alasan-alasannya masuk akal atau bisa diterima nalar.
Yang gue lakukan sebagai pasangannya adalah tentu mensupport secara moral dan yang paling penting adalah gue mengerti situasi yang terjadi. Sulit? Sulit lah. Hubungan gue sama dia ini, dua-duanya egonya gede banget. Gak mungkin dong, mau diadu siapa yang menang siapa yang kalah. Karena gue lebih memilih untuk mengubur ego gue supaya hubungan gue selamat. Buat apa gue merasa menang tapi hubungan kita yang kalah?
Di fase seperti ini juga, akan ada rumput tetangga yang kelihatan lebih hijau. Lebih segar. Lebih bagus. Lebih baik. Well girls prepare yourself, ya. He will start doubting about you. He will start comparing you with another person that might look better than you. But don’t worry it’s just a phase. Disini menurut gue penting untuk masing-masing dari kalian sadar dengan komitmen kalian terhadap hubungan kalian sendiri. Jadi ketika melewati fase berat apapun, mau ada rumput yang lebih kering, basah, atau apapun itu, ya kalian akan tetap berdiri diatas rumput kalian saat ini. Karena yang harus kalian ingat, belum tentu rumput lainnya mengerti dan mau memahami cuaca kalian yang berubah-ubah. Belum tentu rumput lain lebih subur. Belum tentu yang terlihat baru dan lebih baik ini akan mengerti isi kepala kalian tanpa harus kalian minta. Akan selalu ada yang terlihat lebih baik dari apa yang sudah kalian punya, tetapi jika kalian cukup mengerti dan menghargai komitmen yang sudah ada, kalian tidak akan mengizinkan kaki kalian menginjak rumput yang baru, kan? This phase maybe hard for you both but imagine if you can go through this together. You guys will be amazing.
Setidaknya, itulah yang gue harapkan akan terjadi. Semoga semua lekas baik-baik saja dan gue dengan pasangan bisa melewati fase berat ini bersama-sama. Semoga hubungan gue diberkati semesta dan dijauhkan dari segala gangguan dan gocekan kanan kiri.
If you read this, yes you. You know who you are. Get better soon ya, cause I fricking miss you already.
Nana,
28 May 2020
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Random Thoughts
Beberapa orang, percaya atau tidak, mungkin pernah menempatkan kata "semoga" untuk penyakit yang tidak kita harapkan ini. "Semoga dia lekas mati karena menyakitiku", "Semoga semua orang yang menyakitiku musnah dari dunia ini", atau mungkin sesederhana "Jatuh cinta rasanya seperti dunia milik berdua".
Paham maksudnya kan?
Manusia itu bodoh. Bodoh yg terlewat batas sampai kadang organ pemikirnya itu mungkin hanya sebagai aksesoris tubuh. Iya aku sadari, aku juga manusia. Dan kebodohanku juga masih banyak. Bodoh disini dalam artian, kita meminta sesuatu yang kita rasa tidak masuk akal, tapi ketika sudah dikabulkan, kita juga yang panik.
Mungkin karena kita merasa do'a bodoh (dan do'a saat kita emosi) kita tidak akan dikabulkan. Padahal ya benar bahwa ucapan adalah do'a. Jadi kemungkinan dikabulkan itu pasti ada.
Lalu ketika kita minta kebaikan, rasanya lama sekali do'a nya terkabul. Padahal tidak semua begitu. Hanya beberapa saja yang "terkabul lebih lama" daripada yg lain. Bukan karena tidak berniat dikabulkan, tapi mungkin karena waktunya yang belum siap untuk kita.
Mengapa tidak disyukuri dulu yg dimiliki, ketimbang mengeluhkan yang tidak dimiliki atau menangisi yang belum dimiliki?
Selain bodoh, manusia juga rumit ternyata.
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Illustration Workshop
WEEK 13
10th
Today I was part of an illustration workshop at the University of Cumbria run by two renowned and talented illustrators, Kaisa Leka and Stephen Appleby.
It was incredibly interesting to hear from illustrators who are currently practicing and have been in the industry for a long time and therefore have a lot of experience.
Kaisa Leka
Kaisa leka is a Finnish comic artist who produces autobiographical comics focused on disability, politics and spiritual learning. I find her boldness and self confidence very inspiring, and the way she talks about her art and herself is very honest.
One thing I found particularly interesting was the fact that she found it difficult to draw realistic looking people so she created alter egos for herself and her partner instead - a mouse and a dog. Not only does this add an endearing and interesting quality to her work but it’s also a good way to overcome a difficulty and avoid continuously drawing something you don’t enjoy. My favourite of her books is a travel diary about a bike trip from New York to San Francisco made up of postcards she and her partner had sent to her nephews and nieces during the trip. Each page is clean and white with a single post card perfectly in the centre half with scrawled hand writing on and the others the front of the post cards littered with interesting stamps and beautiful images. The book is presented in a white box with a letter that begins “You will need a knife.” This is because the pages are still joined together and haven’t been cut in the manufacturing process - this allows the reader to cut them themselves and feel a little more involvement in discovering the secrets of the book, almost like they’re receiving the postcards themselves.
I really love the idea of this with the box and the pages you have to cut yourself. I will draw inspiration from the simple, white aesthetic of the book as I find it looks really beautiful, refined and modern.
Stephen Appleby
My first impression of Stephen Appleby was quite unanticipated as I had only seen his work and no actual pictures of him. This is why it came as a shock when it turned out the lady in the room dressed in full black leather with the brown bob was actually Steven, a man with a passion for dressing up. From the two hours we spent with Stephen, I gathered that he is a very passionate, compassionate, funny intellectual who again was very honest about his work as an illustrator. His work illustrates how your drawings don’t have to be super pretty or look like they resemble something accurately - it’s all about personality. This is something I’d like to focus on in my own work as I tend to get too caught up in how things look rather than the actual meaning. Stephen explained how when he’s creating an illustration, he creates a rough plan like a script then a rough sketch and puts it on a light box, placing a clean sheet over it to draw inspiration from the sketch for the final drawing without it being too restrictive - this is a method he learned from Quentin Blake who taught him in Newcastle!
Kaisa’s task involves picking out an envelope which contained a few random objects which we then had to incorporate into a comic strip. I received a pencil, a small plastic comb, a screw and a little round tin of sleep balm. We had about half an hour to plan it and an hour to create it.
My comic was about a kid called Juno who tends to have bad dreams about ghosts and witches and bad things so before he goes to bed at night he draws out what he wants to dream about (with the pencil), gets ready for bed (combing his hair), then uses a magical sleep balm which brings the drawings he creates to life whilst he’s dreaming. He goes to a planet where everything is made of metal, with trees made from screws and metal dogs and houses.
Stephens task was centred around super heroes and he asked us to think about a super power we’ve always wanted and create a super hero based on that. He encouraged us to think about things we wished for as a child and having been raised on Scooby doo and mystery hunters - as a child I was very interested in monsters and ghosts and always wanted to try an communicate with them or unearth some sort of ghostly entity. Therefore, I decided that my superhero’s power would be to have the ability to visit the underworld. Part of the task was to create a scenario in which the super power was used for good. I thought that in the underworld the gods of the dead may be a little misunderstood, maybe a little depressed and therefore my superhero, an average boy by the name of Max goes to visit them to lighten them up and give them a little companionship. I did originally start drawing Satan before realising he does not live in the underworld he lives in hell but I thought he’d be just as lonely and misunderstood.
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I'm watching ftm/nb voice lessons on youtube and there are comments that go like this: "I'm a cis girl who wants to improve my male voice for DND, and this video helped! update: I was wrong"
"I'm a cis girl who wants to look and sound masculine, so this was a great video! edit: i'm not as cis as i thought-"
And I can't help but see myself in those comments and so I just want to say that it's okay to question your gender, and believe me I've done tons of it. It's complex, and it's frustrating sometimes, but you'll get there. I've heard people say "oh there's no rush to figure it out" but if you're like me, I thought there WAS a rush since I just didn't like not knowing what I was and was desperate to put a label on it. Ask for help if you need it too. I asked a lot of friends about labels since I didn't quite understand some of them, and they helped me figure it all out.
TL;DR: gender questioning is absolutely fine, don't be scared to ask for help if there's willing allies or queer people in your life, and if you really want to put a label on it, don't get mad at yourself for not knowing which one fits you because it is an ongoing process!
~ Leka
#lgbtq#trans#ftm#enby#nonbinary#genderqueer#gender questioning#genderfluid#intersex#gender non conforming#leka's random thoughts
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Reality Check on TSG and Darren: Dissecting the Lies the ccers repeat.
The obsession with Mia and TSG returned as soon as Elsie was over- just as predicted. I find it so odd that a handful of women with NO intention of ever stepping foot in TSG have such an obsession with keeping tabs on negative Yelp reviews. How often they must check Yelp in order to catch every one. hot of the press so they can blast it and rage over the problems. But even more curious is that they never actually vet the reviewers themselves for their validity. Several of the negative reviews the fandom delighted over were clearly written by people who have never been to the bar and were influenced by Abby’s theories including the one who complained about the vaginas dripping on the bar and the one who complained about Open Dyke Night and then admitted she was underage and half a world away.
Here is TSG overall score:
With 118 review they are at 4.5 stars so these 1-star reviews are not the norm. Most review look something like this
or this
Now let’s look at this recent lot that Cassie decided to bring to ccers’ attention.
cassie1022
(Well Megan, it depends on what night you were there. They close at 1 am on Tuesday and Wednesday).
(If the door people are turning people away an hour before closing, Mia needs to know and the Yelp review will be helpful But since the vast majority of the 118 reviews are very positive, this clearly isn’t a problem that occurs often).
(This is the one that gets Abby’s fired up about. I have no clue it it is true or if it this policy is posted anywhere. I will give them this one because I can’t check anywhere. 20% does seem a bit high for a bartender tip since they aren’t waiting on a table...anyone?)
(Melinda, Melinda Melinda...I’m going to guess that by her comment that she is not 21. She gave the place 1-star because the bartender carded her. Basically that is it. She gave them a horrible review and ranted because there were frumpy old lady tourists in the bar, she insulted the drink taste and the price even thought it sounds like she wasn’t served and the bartender thought she looked young. I’m sorry but this smells wrong. But even more telling is the comment “If I am willing to buy your mediocre $20 glasses of urine then you bet I am old enough”. Notice she never says she is 21, she simply spits that she is willing to pay the price for the horrible drink and that qualifies her.
Check out her Yelp page- she went to LONO after TSG and complained about TSG on that LONO’s review. “BEST BAR OF THE EVENING! I came here after fleeing the depressing depths of Tramp Stamp Granny's in search of refuge. The bartender with the long red beard was incredibly nice! He was kind, considerate, and extremely welcoming. The drinks were superbly delicious!!!!! Everyone should come here” I get the vibe she didn’t get served at TSG (Keep reading, there is another hint about her age at the bottom of this section)
Back home in NY she gave Trader Joe 1-Star claiming she found a worm in her smoked salmon. That seems suspect since the salmon was smoked. She gave her local ice cream place 1-star and this charming review “There was a long, black hair rolled up into my ice cream, the plate that my "sweet treat" was made on was covered in ice and the remnants of previous orders, and the employees appeared to be quite overworked. When I want ice cream, I don't want an accompanying side of pity for the workers and disdain for the tedious, migraine-inducing procedure to make a mediocre ice cream. Also, the store was sweltering and I broke out into a beading sweat while waiting in the purgatory-like line.” The only places Melinda likes are a hot dog place and a pizza joint. The pizza joint got 5-stars “By far the best pizzeria ever; my existence would be trash without Emilio's. Oozy, gooey goodness that tastes like ambrosia regardless of the toppings. While the employees are lacking in the common customer service charm that we are force fed as a society, they have a higher level of pizza IQ than the rest of us average mortals. I guess that's what happens when you spend your days cultivating the food of the gods.”. But my favorite review of all is for 5-star review for her favorite hot dog place “Very delicious, savory hot dogs. The location is prime with it being directly behind the high school, however, the large line every single day can get a bit tedious. If only they would expand and open an extra window.” Now why would an adult care that it is located near the high school? It would seem that the person who calls the location “prime with it being directly behind the high school” but also notes that it the line is large every single day is a high school student. Of course she could be a teacher who eats hot dogs everyday and is between the ages of 22 and 30 (any older and she would not be that upset that the bartender thought she looked young) but her comments reek of teenager.)
(I have no clue what David’s issue is. Is this a viable complaint to leave on Yelp? It sounds like David has a personal issue with the guy working the door.)
Now the ccers chime in:
ajw720 While all of these are bad, how are they getting away with unitemized bills that include gratuity with no policy plainly in site? I totally understand charging gratuity and have absolutely no issue with it, but it needs to be clearly stated, because if it is not, that is tricking customers into tipping twice. Disgusting.
Can we please separate d from this horrific establishment? Not only is it utterly misogynist and offensive in nature, with theme nights where the name is considered hate speech, it is repeatedly cited as poorly run. First a 5% upcharge on ice and now we learn they charge gratuity automatically on bills of $80 or more without clearly stating the policy. That should be written on the bill handed to the customer. Unacceptable.
(Can we please separate d from this horrific establishment? No, Darren is married to the owner and considers himself an owner. What did he say the other day? “It’s my bar too because we are a unit” or something like that.
Not only is it utterly misogynist: TSG is NOT misogynistic. You dont understand the word .
and offensive in nature: TSG is NOT “offensive in nature” to most grown adults. You can find it offensive but you do not get to dictate what the rest of the world finds offensive. Your attitude is no different from the Christians who claim they won’t serve LGBTQ customers because it is against their religious beliefs in that you are both putting your morals, values and beliefs on someone else and declaring that it is offensive to all of us. If you find it offensives then don’t give them your business. Period
with theme nights where the name is considered hate speech: The theme-night names that you find so offensive and are labeling “hate speech”, are in fact words the LGBTQ is using to empower their community. “Open Dyke Night” was named- and is hosted by- a lesbian who uses the word to empower lesbians. These theme nights you find so offensive are NOT for you. They are nights for the LGBTQ community to come to a space that is safe and enjoy the company of others in the community just like them hence Open Dyke Night is for lesbian women to come together with other lesbian women and enjoy a night of singing and celebration.
it is repeatedly cited as poorly run.. : It is NOT “repeatedly cited as poorly run” by anyone who isn't named Abby, Cassie, Leka, and Flowers. The bar has 4.5 stars overall and a lot of 5-star reviews. This is exactly what NadiaCreek was talking about when she said “You are denying a reality that is obvious and that gets more and more evidence with every passing day. You are tricking yourself into seeing patterns that are not there, by obsessing over small details and ignoring a mound of evidence for the opposite, true conclusion. That kind of thing can and will pour over into areas of your life that do matter. Denying reality in any area of the world is a dangerous game that can and will impact the rest of your life”. THIS is so important.
First a 5% upcharge on ice and now we learn they charge gratuity automatically on bills of $80 or more without clearly stating the policy. That should be written on the bill handed to the customer: A 5% up-charge on ice was mentioned by one person. I wouldn't be referencing that based on one person’s random comment. The 20% gratuity is again only one person complaining so I wouldn’t sink my teeth in to this one until you know a lot more)
klaineownsmysoul
When you have a “venue operator” masquerading as an owner who knows nothing about how a business should be run and obviously couldn’t care less, what do you expect? They couldn’t be bothered fixing the air conditioning last summer and laughed it off as a joke. Pretty sure at this point its obvious this wasn’t some sort of “life long dream” of hers to own a bar like they’ve pushed; more like a dream to have a place where she can drink for free and have her pic taken while people kiss her ass and call her wonderful. There is not an ounce of D in that place. His shoelaces have more integrity than this place.
(You have no clue what the business end of TSG is and comments like how she is “masquerading as owner” are so obtuse and stupid they defy logic. She is the owner and the bar is busy. But it doesn’t matter if it is failing and barely hanging on- it isn’t any of your business-that’ss between Mia, Darren and Danny and their landlord and vendors. It’s really sad and disgusting that you want Darren’s bar to fail. CCers want to be taken seriously -Abby constantly complains that the stans won’t listen to the various cc tropes -and yet you make nonsense statements like this...this is one big reason why you aren’t taken seriously. You WANT Mia to fail and you WANT TSG to go away but that is not the same thing as it actually failing or Mia being a clueless boss. In fact, her employees have said very nice complimentary things about her being a fabulous boss and they are far more credible evaluators than the cc fans who have never been to the bar and simply believe Abby’s fantasy tropes about the bar and Mia failing. You have no idea if she cares or doesn’t care and again, it isn’t any of your business. It’s her business to drive into the ground or make it a roaring success. Darren’s fans don’t get a say in the matter other than to either be a customer and pay for drinks or don’t give them your business.
Patrons continue to go to the bar and I have not seen complaints about the lack of A/C except on opening night. It is just as much Darren’s bar as Mia’s- so you believe Darren didn’t care about the A/C and laughed it off as a joke? When? Or is it that A/C was out a few days over a year ago and you are still using that as fuel for your rage about a bar that you have nothing to do with?
“Pretty sure at this point its obvious this wasn’t some sort of “life long dream” of hers to own a bar like they’ve pushed; more like a dream to have a place where she can drink for free and have her pic taken while people kiss her ass and call her wonderful” Again comments like these are why you aren’t taken seriously. Mia owns the bar. Whether you like it or not, she owns the bar. You simply don’t like that she isn’t the bar manager-she pays people to do that. The owner is the one who hires and trains staff, makes decisions about the menu and what alcohol will be offered, writes the policies and procedures, plans the calendar and makes payroll. She pays other people to run the bar day-to-day and that pisses you all off because you can’t see her at the bar and criticize every moment that is uploaded to social media. What she does is all behind the scenes and not Instagramable. But it doesn’t mean she isn’t working. There is a thing now called the internet and it makes doing a lot of the work of running a bar doable from a wide varsity of locals. .
Your comment that “there is not an ounce of D in that place” leaves me shaking my head. When you guys say things like this it just proves that you don’t know anything about Darren. You spend your time looking for Blaine and you're right- the bar has nothing to do with Blaine but it has Darren written all over it. The cc fandom spends all of their time and effort looking for the Darren they want to see and it’s a lot of work. You have to reject a lot of what you see and blame it on his team for making him be the bro’ dude that you can’t stand. You have to find videos and look at them frame by frame to find the moments you believe are the ‘real’ Darren aka the one you want to see. You have to cut out those precious few seconds, slow them down, and turn them into gifs and THERE...THERE IS the Darren you know and love. But while you are doing all that work you are missing the real Darren. The one who is right there in front of your face but you don’t like because he isn’t Blaine. Darren’s footprint is all over the bar- from the elegant debauchery of the decor to the sexual puns on the signs and the drink names that IS Darren Criss. The piano at the center of the room-Darren’s piano- that he uses to connect with people through music and the fact that it is a piano bar that plays covers is all Darren. Mia plays very different music when she performs and yet the bar is literally based on what Darren does best- play the piano and sing covers while those around him join in. The place is ALL Darren-you just don’t like the real Darren.)
flowersintheattic254
You know so many things were attempted to try to make M look like a career woman, with a viable business, shared interests with D and not a beard without taste or work ethic.
I think the bar will likely last as long as the fake marriage as M isn’t interested in it when D isn’t there to hang off and when you consider when it opened and how the encage went down.
M hung around bands when she was younger due to her fathers businesses. She likes being around famous, talented people. The bar gives her the opportunity and venue to continue her groupie inclinations.
I’m absolutely glad that D has been too busy recently to be there.
The most influence he may of had was with the whiskey choice.
(I don’t know why it’s so hard for you all to understand that Mia had several jobs and now she is owns a bar. The fact that you feel entitled to criticize her for her career decisions and make comments about her taste level is pure misogyny. Darren has also had lots of jobs and you don’t criticize him and the punny sex jokes are all Darren and yet you attribute them to Mia- that’s misogyny. Mia didn’t write Me and My Dick, Darren did, he loves the puns. As for shared interests...he married her. Their shared interest is the family and the life they are building together.
How long the bar is open is yet to be determined but given that your record for predictions regarding Darren and Mia is abysmal, I’m not going to sweat it. The idea that Mia “hung out with bands” as a kid and the piano bar gives her the opportunity to hang out with famous people-I just can’t. She hangs out with far more “famous people” and musicians just going to events with her husband then she ever will at Darren’s piano bar.
Her “groupie inclinations” WTF is a “groupie inclination”? I don’t even know what to say to that because I have no clue what a groupie inclination is. It’s really sad that you are so happy that Darren isn’t connecting to people though music since that means so much to him. He recently was asked if he had a need to be on stage and he said no, he has never had that need but what he does "NEED” is to connect to people though music and he also has said that playing the piano while people sing along gives him that connection. I shouldn’t be surprised that you are gleeful that Darren hasn’t had time to spend at the bar he created in honor of his beloved Marie’s Crisis, your fan-girling over Darren has never been about Darren, it’s always been about you).
leka-1998 Too bad you can’t actually call forgetting about that place most of the time and drinking the money they force people to spend a career. She’d be truly successful. It’s really her bar and D’s just the piano man, right? So if that could stop too, that would be nice.
(You really need to stop slandering Mia, she doesn’t drink anymore than Darren. You never call out Darren’s drinking but then again, it’s just your misogyny speaking-it always comes. The bar is Mia and Darren’s. When he says he’s just the piano man, he is just taking the attention from himself and giving it to her. Darren does this a lot with people he cares about. But he has been very clear that the bar is his and Mia’s. I know words are hard for you guys, you get so caught up in the meaning of the word that you fail to hear the message. Anyone paying even a little attention t Tramp Stamp Granny’s would realize that is Darren’s bar through and through. Someday maybe you can all stop looking for the Darren you like, stop obsessing about what this word means or that word, stop slowing down videos and clipping the out the 3 seconds you like and instead you can just listen to the Darren that is right there in front of you and HEAR what he has to say. It will be revolutionary. Listening to other people without assumptions is the very least you can do..literally it is the least).
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How is going to see HIS movie with Mia and friends promoting THEM? I don't know how they sleep at night, with the amount of bullshit they make up...
The photo in question is nothing but support and promoting Darren:
It is taken in front of the movie board for Darren’s movie
Darren is grinning his biggest grin- the one that the tinhatters always label “he’s happy” and “the old Darren we never see anymore”
Mia is pointing at Darren
The text says “Congratulations to Darren...”
His best friends and his parents are in attendance.
There is NOTHING that suggests anyone else is being “promoted” or even thought about. I honestly cannot believe that Abby’s fantasy has gotten so out of hand the she actually believes her own nonsense but she is clearly angry as she wrote several posts about this. Souly even criticized them for taking the photo in front of the theater where the paparazzi hang out- IDK what they think Hollywood is but there aren’t paparazzi just hanging out all over LA in front of random movie theaters unless they know someone is going to be there. Taking a photo for the 15 seconds they took to organize and snap isn’t going to bring the paparazzi. They just like to bitch all the time every thing they can think of.
ajw720: 'The push to validate m is interesting.
So many people have been used lately to try to make her seem legit. Including from unexpected people like JCM and l/ena. And today we get the first public pic of her with his parents since before the sham mockery (pap pics after one of the awards at that restaurant).
What they fail to realize. That pic is awkward. His mom looks incredibly uncomfortable. So does m. She would look more legit had she yielded and allowed d to go to the awards with his mom or his dad to go to 1 of the 2 movie events. That’s what a loving spouse would do. Not pose for a group pic with all the users in D’s life.
Team Incompetent and PBB, you continue to look desperate and we are a week away from 9 months “married.” There should not be a need to validate excessively to try to prove this is real. And there wouldn’t be if d was a willing player and any of you were competent at your jobs.
But hey the 10 stans still believe. Bravo there. Good job! Totally worth stealing someone’s life for that attention!
leka-1998
You know, I would be happier D’s parents were there, among the leeches, if I didn’t feel extra bad for his mom.
ajw720
I’m not happy. That’s not about d. That’s making sure they all get promo through him. And I hate that his parents are being forced to participate in this nonsense. They should be allowed to see this movie with their son and his real partner. And why dies his poor mother need to touch the person who lives to hurt and use her son?
Are we done yet?
mmack0621
@ajw720 Look closely, she's really not touching her. Her hand is on top of D's. She's only touching her with 2 fingertips 😂😂
ajw720
Not exactly loving:) I suppose more supportive of d.
But I don’t like it. If she couldn’t yield to his dad for 1 of the 2 premiere events, his parents deserve to see this with their son away from the constant games that consume his life.
Source: leka-1998
flowersintheattic254
M’s body language is interesting as she’s very much closed off from D (arms and legs).
At least he only brings his parents occasionally into this.
ajw720
@flowersintheattic254 I think she’s very uncomfortable around his parents. Hence why she barely interacted with them at EF. She knows she’s not wanted and they are only doing as necessary for d.
But agree. She’s very closed off. Unusual for her.
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Debunking The ccResponse to my Proof post
CC Nonsense is so easy to debunk.
This is their response to me calling them out for using manips as “proof” that cc was and is real.
A group of grown adult women thought THIS was irrefutable and such good evidence that it was a perfect response to shut me down. In fact, they comment about the fun they are having several times. I’m dumbfounded honestly by the ridiculous things they hold up as proof. It’s so stupid.
ajw720
gifs found here (x)
flowersintheattic254
And it’s D who is the one looking blissfully happy. He mirrors C’s movements so much here and his expression is someone who is
BESOTTED
C is the focus of that. This exists and can’t be explained away.
Let’s start with my debunk post from yesterday. If you haven’t read it you can read it (X). Essentially, what we learned is that this photo
which is one of their most treasured “proof” pics is a manip.
It is super long so under a cut
I have no idea why Abby came back at me with the specific gif set above and this photo because they still prove nothing. Both men are known for being funny in interviews and that is exactly what is happening here but slow it down, clip out a 1-2 second piece, loop it in a gif and suddenly the moment because so much more than it ever was. Watch the entire video and the moment isn’t special at all. Chris always answers to get a laugh-hence “oh God” and “I was scared shitless”. I don’t know why being scared shitless during his first sex scene is proof of cc. Cory spoke about being terrified as well. Darren’s response is very serious-100% theater major. He gives a long answer, thoughtful answer and then turns on the charm at the end, going for a laugh to break the tension. He leans forward Chris for less than a second as you can see from my screen grabs all taken at 3:17
and says “what do you think Chris?” The intimacy- and Flower’s “BESOTTED” moment- that the cc fandom has long romanticized in this interview is simply not there when you watch the video played at regular speed and in real time.
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Darren isn’t mirroring Chris’s movements- in fact he is quite serious when answering the question and he doesn’t seem to be all that aware of Chris beside him until he gets to the end of the question. As you can see in my screen grabs above, he doesn’t look blissfully happy or besotted until the last two screen grab when he purposefully makes a cheesy smile at Chris and says “what you think Chris?”. That was 1/2 a second in real time. The cc fandom and @flowersintheattic254 have spent 4 years purposefully NOT watching the video, instead realying entirely on a manip and a handful of gifs along with their fabricated version of what is going on on stage. They are literally gaslighting themselves.
leka-1998
Hahahaha
They want to believe this is darren - I can’t help them. But if THIS is your proof, you are in sad shape. Especially when you are putting that against
You have a headless photo taken 6 years ago as your only non-Glee proof. That is pretty sad. Can you imagine a prosecutor taking that to court. “Yes, your honor, this photo of a tiny part of a man’s chin, his head cut out of frame and most of his body obscured by a cat is my proof that Chris and Darren are in a relationship”. Abby should know that this is proof of absolutely nothing. In fact, if you would listen to Chris with your ears instead of your eyes- you would know this is Will: Chris has confirmed Will is his boyfriend in several interviews. Holding this photographed chin portion up to Will’s chin, it is easy to see that it could be him. That along with Chris acknowledging Will is his boyfriend and the many photos we have of them going about their lives as a couple, his outright denial of any romantic relationship with Darren and the fact that Darren identifies as straight, the evidence adds up to it being Will in the photo.
I know you want it to be Darren, but assessing evidence isn’t about what you want to find, it is about looking objectively at the evidence and putting it all together in context. You can’t take an isolated moment, slowed down and gif’d to within an inch of it’s life and call that proof.
Evidence that supports Will as Chris’s boyfriend- Will attended Hannah’s graduation and was with Chris for his mom’s funeral whereas Darren was seen eating lunch with friends in LA.
Photos where they do boyfriend things.
All of the credible evidence leads to the photo is Will. You claiming it is Darren simply because you desperately want it to be isn’t “credible evidence”, it’s simply the foolish, baseless claims of a few strangers who believe their fantasy is more important than the reality of the people involved. In order to believe it is Darren, you have to dismiss all the overwhelming credible evidence that says it is Will.
Also real
I have NO idea why these are considered “also real”. They are both gifs cut from videos produced for Glee Promotion. These were filmed as part of Chris and Darren’s job responsibilities. Chris actually refused to do The Wedding interview and had to be forced to do it.
I have no idea how you can listen to The Wedding interview. and come away feeling like it was cc positive. It is an indication of how deluded you are and how bad you are at HEARING with your ears. In fact, you once again are “listening with your eyes” by screen capping it to turn it into a gif so you can fixate on 1/2 a second of content and pretend it represents the entire interview. When I first saw the interview, I was stunned at how anti-cc the it was. The entire interview is about how bad overzealous Kragen fans are-”the crazies” and how neither man wants to get your attention so they just stay off social media.
This is a gif of Darren cracking up is when Chris suggests future-Kurt should be played by Marcia Gay Harden. It’s really funny and Darren laughs-so what? The video is supposed to fun- he’s doing his job.
Here we have Chris’s closed off- his arms wrapped tightly around himself to protect himself. Darren might be boisterly laughing but Chris isn’t. He’s barely giving anything. But regardless of what is really being shown here- - these videos were filmed 5 or 6 years ago as part of Chris and Darren’s work...what the hell do they prove related to cc? Absolutely nothing. They prove that both men did the job they were paid to do. They also prove you guys insist on using gifs to prove your fantasy because they are the best way to manipulate reality into showing what you want to see.
Look at Naya cracking up at Darren, does this prove she loves him? NO, of course not- just like Darren laughing in a PR video he was paid to make doesn't’ prove he loves Chris.
Watch the unaltered video for a real perspective.
vimeo
ajw720
@leka-1998 Apparently she is CONVINCED too much love, and all of the other headless images on C’s IG are just the PA. Apparently C just likes to cut off his head for shits and giggles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am having way too much fun with this.(Me too, it’s fun explaining “credible evidence” to a lawyer who doesn’t understand it. When are you going to provide evidence that isn’t simple to discredit? I keep waiting for this to get harder but so far it’s utter nonsense.)
Umm...”all the other headless images” aren’t there like 2 other headless images? No, I don’t think Chris cuts them off for “shits and giggles”, I think he cuts them off because cc assholes come on his social media and terrorize him when he posts Will’s face- especially back during Glee days- so he tamed it down so you hags would not bother him. This isn’t rocket science here, it’s pretty simple. If you listen to Chris- of course you don’t-but if you did, you would see that your “proof” doesn’t align with what Chris says. Instead you “listen with your eyes” and disregard his pleas to stop shipping him with Darren.
All of your evidence is in the form of a screen grab or a gif, have you ever wondered why that is? Has it ever occurred to you that none of your evidence comes from Chris or Darren’s mouth? In fact, you go to great lengths to prove what they say is not what they mean. It’s a sick game you play, but I suppose you know that which is why the “#1 rule of fandom is DO NOT involve the players”
cc-still-going-strong
I will admit it is all history if they can give me ONE photo he looks at her like
THIS
Again, so weird that you used more Klaine screen caps as your evidence. It’s like you don’t understand that Klaine is different from Chris and Darren.
I have no clue why you think these are excellent examples of anything but get ready to admit it is all history, my friend. Your photos are literally screen grabs from PR videos, smh. I posted a bunch of responses to this challenge- you can see them: besotted (X), kisses (X), Wedding (X), Reception (X), Random (X), Video 1 (X), 2 (X), 3 (X) 4(X) Romantic 1 (X), 2
Some of the photos I included:
THIS is a photo of a BESOTTED Couple!!!!!
This is also a photo of Darren BESOTTED.
flowersintheattic254 I want to play some more!!!!!! (OH Me Too, THIS IS TOO EASY) Can Michy rewrite D adding C to his lines on C’s birthday. Was that dubbed Michy and created by us.
I’ve never understood why you believe this joke is proof of cc? It’s a hilarious joke, but it’s really benign and certainly not indicative that they are lovers. They are former coworkers and this was right after Glee ended, so the joke is funny and timely. Today the joke would probably fall flat except within the fandom. Here you are again LiSTENING WITH YOUR EYES as you refuse to acknowledge both that Chris had named Will as his boyfriend and Darren had named Mia by the time this joke was told. Now, 4 years later Darren is married to Mia so IDK why this is still so exciting for you guys. Please explain to me why you believe this joke is proof of riot material...why is it something to get excited about other than it’s clever and funny? Again you have to take it out of context of all other evidence about their personal lives, ignore their outright denials they are couple, ignore Darren’s claims he is straight, believe he is lying every time he speaks about his sexuality, fabricate an entire backstory to the joke and believe it is as wink wink nod nod to fandom that they are a couple. It’s just a joke- the whole show was full of them. To me, your delight with this has always reeked of desperation...and don’t kid yourself, after Darren told this joke every night, he went home with Mia.
Or maybe some more glee panel. Look at D here.
Or shock horror, which bastard manipulated their legs to look like they were together?!!😮
I love BTS pics that show how close and relaxed they are with each other Michy.
He’s laughing at a joke here...I don’t get your delight. Again- believing this is special requires you to disregard everything Darren and Chris have said about their lives and to belief this one old gif supercedes the thousands of photos we have seen that disprove cc is viable. But even if you weren’t sure back when this gif was new, now we know that Darren is married to Mia and Chris has published Will’s face on his social media many times. In light of new information, your original theories about what these gifs show have been proven wrong and you need to amend your theories. Or at least that is what a reasonable, intelligent person who cares about the truth would do. History would indicate that you are incapable of amending your theories when new information comes to light and that you only care about your fantasy- the truth is inconsequential to you. History also indicates your “proof” is always taken as an isolated event because each time you are forced to ignore the mountain of evidence that disproves your theory.
Yes, they are absolutely standing right next to one another but so what? This pic doesn’t prove they are in a relationship. If being next to some proves a relationship then Abby get married every time she rides the subway. They are coworkers on set- getting ready to film a scene together. This is a shot of their legs taken when they were standing around Zac getting directions when they first arrived. Once again, you manipulated a photo to make it look like something it isn’t. But that is always how you “prove” cc is real- you lie and manipulate. Darren hasn’t even been in hair and make-up yet, this very early in the day.
ajw720
@flowersintheattic254 the h/edwig joke has been caught on video, but ofc, obviously we fucked with the audio.
Nobody thinks you fucked with the audio you twit. Reasonable adults simply don’t think a benign joke told on stage is scandalous or indicates they are lovers.
Just adding a few more special, genuine moments of D absolutely adoring his man, i mean co-worker he hates
I have never said they hate each other so you need to get someone else to debunk that. In fact, I don’t think I have ever heard anyone except the cc fandom claim they hate one another. It’s part of only seeing “always” and “never”.
According to the cc lexicon- Chris and Darren are married or at least live together and have for several years and Darren is under an onerous contract that forbids him from letting the world know he is gay AND that he is in love with Chris Colfer. In fact they are forbidden from interacting in public and their characters were broken up in season 4 in order to break them up in real life. So you are suggesting that Darren is sooooooo in love that he just cannot stop staring at the man he lives with for the 4 minutes he is on stage with all eyes on them even though he could lose everything under the contract? Cuz that seems like a shitload of risk for simply looking at Chris in a crowded room. According to your logic, Jenna is staring at Darren. I have no clue what he is looking at. He is certainly looking in Chris’s direction but given all the information we have- Darren was dating Mia-now he is married to her, Chris was living with Will-still is, Chris and Darren haven’t spoken in 4 years at least cubically and they both denied they were a couple many times, I can say that the evidence does not support your claim that he is looking lovingly at Chris because they are passionate lovers and he just can’t help himself. I just posted a bunch of pics of Darren looking very lovingly at Mia while also holding her close and smiling- your 2-second gif vs all the evidence proving he is in a real relationship- married- with Mia- it doesn’t come close to comparing. Google “Darren Criss and Mia Swier” and scroll for an hour- you see thousands of photos of them looking very much like a loving couple. Your handful of 4-9 year old gifs are pitiful and don’t prove anything except Chris and Darren were coworkers on a TV show where they played boyfriends.
I’m not going to waste my time debunking these. They are literally the same as the above gifs- ALL onset Glee-in fact the top two are from more Glee promo videos in the same vein as the ones above. Still -they prove nothing.
And of course the time C looked at D look he was the entire world
Again a slowed down gif from set. Do you see the patten of manipulation here? I wouldn’t say he looked at him like he was the entire world, It looks ot me like Chris looks up at him as Darren speaks to him and then he looks down. You slowed it down to make it more dramatic. It’s a very effective technique to change the mood- TV shows and movies do it all the time.
But yep all we have is a few IG likes, that is correct Michy, that is all we got.
I honestly have NO clue what you are insinuating here.
Aw remember all those behind the scenes of them having fun together too. Guess these never happened either Michy.
Oh we are back to your favorite Bryant Park. They are coworkers killing time on. set. I don’t know why you believe this is so interesting. Yes, they are really cute but Newsflash: coworkers can have fun and joke around together and not be lovers. They had to kill hours before filming started. In fact they had to kill a lot of hours that day. They were on set for 11 hours and filmed a tiny fraction of that time. Once again, you have to take this out of context of all the other CREDIBLE evidence of Miarren and Chill, as well as both men denying a relationship and Darren is straight in order to believe this is something exciting.
You showed me 1 pic that wasn’t on set. That should tell you everything. Honestly, I know you fully believe your own nonsense and you can’t understand how everyone else isn’t buying into it. But really, I should just respond to this with LOLOLOLOLOL because your evidence is so pathetic and absurd it is laughable. How a grown women can believe that a handful of 4-9 year old gifs representing 1 or 2 second taken from promo videos made for Glee-all slowed down for dramatic effect- can add up to solid proof of a secret relationship is mind boggling. But it’s even worse because you are a lawyer -you know that evidence isn’t something taken out of context. You know that evidence is looked in its entirety and that includes what Darren and Chris testify about their own relationships.
ajw720
remember that time D called C the life of the party on National TV?
Remember the time Darren was asked “Do you take Mia to be your lawfully wedded wife, to love, honor and cherish til death do you part” and he said “I Do” ? That trumps your “life of the party” comment. Why do you think calling a coworker “the life of the party” is indicates love? He also said “I’m straight” and that he wasn’t in a relationships with Chris- but you discount that because you don’t want to hear it -even though he has repeated those comments many times. Nope this is about you latching on to anything you can. It’s really embarrassing
Chris may be the life of the party but he said this about Mia on TV- to a much bigger audience :
I know you do not understand symbolism and you insist on taking this beautiful sentiment literally-and tying it back to Cunanan- so it makes no sense to you, but it is incredibly romantic. It’s a very beautiful, loving sentiment for one’s life partner.
@ajw720, @flowersintheattic254, @leka-1998
#CC#ccer#crisscolfer#darrencriss#cc fandom#mia swier#Chris colfer#debunking CC lies#So much nonsense#so many gifs#so much glee PR
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