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[sebastiancats]

Probably a clue to the cult that kidnapped the twins

Ok, this is my first post here and I don't know much about English so I'll use the translator.I hope that a part of kurofandom can see this and tell me what they think.

A few days ago I started rereading the twin reveal arc manga, and since lately I've been doing research on gothic/medieval architecture, I saw this panel from chapter 135 and thought "this castle seems to be medieval".

then the idea of looking for information on satanic sects during the Victorian era occurred to me, and although in reality there was very little information about it, after searching for a while I finally found a page that told me about what I was looking for.

Well this information is about a man named Sir Francis Dashwood, like many of the young people of Victorian England who prided themselves on being part of blue blood families, he was an inexhaustible traveler. He toured almost all of Europe as part of his training, but he always expressed a very marked passion for Italy. Dashwood was a man of the world, surrounded by powerful friends in politics, banking and the art world. He held important positions in the civil service of England. He was also a notable lover of parties, music, food, drink and women in large quantities, in addition to art and Greco-Roman cultures. Quite a character with notable influences that he had access to practically what he wanted. He lived near the River Thames, in Buckinghamshire, in a huge mansion in West Wycombe, surrounded by luxuries and servants who fulfilled any mandate 24 hours a day. In it he held meetings with notable friends of his and members of Masonic lodges in which his vices surfaced permanently.

However, he had in mind the creation of a select secret group in which he could discuss freely about political and philosophical issues exclusively, made up of elegant and influential gentlemen from English high society. This is how he found the ideal place to carry out these meetings: Medmenham Abbey, whose owners were members of the Duffield family, and which was about five kilometers away from his mansion. The Duffields agreed to rent the property, erected around 1200 by a congregation of Cistercian monks. The place was perfect in every way: away from prying eyes and with an atmosphere of mysticism, thanks to its medieval air that enchanted Sir Francis.

He had a good number of statues of pagan gods moved to the property and decorated the walls with mocking phrases such as: Peni tento, non penitenti ("a stiff penis, no penance"). On the reception door he had the following legend engraved: Fay ce que voudras (<< Do what you want »), which would later be adopted by the magician Aleister Crowley as his personal phrase. The place was ready to receive Dashwood's guests and start the meetings of the new Hell-Fire Club. From this moment is where the myths and legends are born around the dark activities of this sinister cult where its members arrive at the abbey aboard small boats, dressed as monks, carrying candles in their hands and singing Gregorian chants.

It should be clarified that in reality the cult called themselves "The Monks of Medmenham". The name "Hell-Fire" club was more of a derogatory nickname.

So reading all this information I realized something, the phrase that this cult used was "fray ce que voudras" which means "Do what you want" or "Do your will" and this same phrase is used by the members of the cult that kidnapped to the twins.

In this part of chapter 135.

here I realized that when they arrive at that castle the receptionist asks "are you a monk?" To which the other responds with "Fay ce que voudras" (Do what you want). The same phrase used by members of the cult The Monks of Medmenham.

So I would assume that this is a hint that Yana left us and I don't see anyone else talking about it. I don't know if so many people from kurofandom follow me but tell me what you think about this, we should investigate further but I think this is a very obvious clue.

[zetsubobu]

Hello hello kurofandom!

Please send me a few of your favourite panels from the manga! I want to try and draw some of them!

[lilacwriter07]

you know what surprises me that the Kurofandom even has antis, like the very first time I got into Black Butler everyone seemed to be on the same page . The second time everything was alright as well, suddenly antis appeared like wtf .

I was told MHA was a toxic fandom but it seems antis are trying to poison other fandoms as well .

Very sad day to be an otaku .. stay strong everyone !

[akuma-is-here]

it’s basically the entrance fee for the sbcl corner of kurofandom

@amanitus I know ur not rlly on twitter much anymore but I did wanna mention that one person tweeted that they haven't read Valentine's Eve yet which triggered several hours worth of people shilling your fic as hard as possible to anyone who will listen

[batdesu]

Guys. I need to remind myself that not every single picture needs to be colored and finished. X_X Next time expect some sketchy line art only. :B

[cirquebled]

Me: sees all these kuro blogs appearing but are unaffiliated w/ the fandom

Me, crying: i love you all so much and would die for you

[mourninglockets]

Speaking of the 2012 kurofandom here's a couple of the amvs I made that really capture the spirit of that era

[daarkhavaun]

GOOD MORNING KUROFANDOM

HOW ARE WE DOING TODAY?

GUYYYYSSS. ITS COMING BACK.

[akuma-butler]

Kurofandom, are you still alive? If you want to chat, rp or just send me silly memes, I'm all here for that!

[chibimyumi]

Dear @lunitamoon​​,

First of all, I am sorry it took so long to get to you, but thank you very much for your sweet compliments! The day you sent the ask was great, and so is today. I hope your life is good to you too.

But now without further ado, your question.

Uchikawa Reo

I think Reo is a very good actor. My first opinion of him when I saw him in Noah’s Ark Circus 2016 was that he has a lot of talent. Some of these talents were not polished yet, (his singing being one example, but given his young age I couldn’t possibly blame him), while other talents were already polished to a sparkling gem. When people talk about Reo, it is usually “cuteee, so tiny!!!” or compliments of the like. His looks make people shove his remarkableness as an actor under these irrelevant external qualities. That is a shame, so please allow me to highlight a few things that are remarkable about this boy.

Character interpretation and understanding

I think Reo understood the character of O!Ciel very well and he was able to deliver many of the nuances even his first time in the role. When hastily interpreted, O!Ciel’s character runs the risk of being taken for nothing but cranky, sulky and haughty. Reo however, even at the age of 12 managed to see that these three obvious traits have a much deeper root: ‘doneness’. O!Ciel is done with his butler’s sauciness, done with people around him imposing their opinions on him, done with the world. Uchikawa Reo managed to capture this fatigue quite well.

In the scene where Soma is altogether a bit too clingy, I think many would think O!Ciel would push the prince away or slap him away. Reo however, did not. He was trying to pull away Soma’s hands, but he never showed antagonism. Just doneness. Regardless of whether O!Ciel does or doesn’t see Soma as his ‘big brother figure’ and ‘friend’, he does care about him. Even when Reo-bocchan said: “I’m exhausted because of you,” there was no callousness in his voice; just irritation.

Reo managed to find a beautiful middle ground between ‘warm’ and ‘cold’ for O!Ciel, and that is exactly what I believe our Trash Baby Lord is. That is a lot more nuance in character study than I could possibly expect from most actors, let alone a 12 year old one.

Another example of Reo’s great understanding of his role is in the scene where he questions his butler whether he would be able to bring them to Baron Kelvin’s manor within an hour. Here he raised an eyebrow as he spoke. This raised eyebrow is very significant.

In the post ‘That Butler, Punchable‘, I discussed in detail how Sebastyun is constantly being very snarky at his master, presumably so because he did not consider the boy worthy of his full respect. In the scene of this example however, O!Ciel has earned the demon’s full respect, and he knows it.

Raising an eyebrow, O!Ciel shows that he has reestablished dominance as master, and that intellectually he is on the same playing field as the demon. He knows what he is doing, and unsurprisingly, the question asked was thusly phrased as a rhetorical one. Hence I did not translate this line as: “can you?” but instead as “you can, right?” Through this nuance, Reo-bocchan shows a great level of confidence and his grasp over the case.

Something else remarkable about 12-year-old Reo is his body-language. In the showdown between him and Baron Kelvin, Reo knew very well how to deliver his actions and the tension of the scene to even the people in the furthest back of the theatre. He takes his time to carry out every movement with meaningful decisiveness. One powerful kick. Re-assume stance. Walk behind his victim. Trap him under his foot. Point the gun at him. Had Reo just kicked Kelvin and stood on him in one consecutive movement, then the impact would have been broken.

I am not sure whether this was intentional, but before Reo pointed the gun at Kelvin, the hand that held the weapon was relaxed, which meant it would not attract attention away from his footwork. Only when the footwork was finished did Reo reveal his gun again from underneath his cape, effectively re-shifting attention back to the weapon when that should be the central focus again.  In theatre where audiences don’t view the production through edited and selected footage, it is vital that actors know where they should draw attention to, and reversely, where not to. Reo did well.

Reo’s natural flair for comedy is also noteworthy. O!Ciel’s character’s funniness is mostly his insane cuteness and inability to can at times; not because he has funny remarks to make. Trying too hard to be funny is a big theatre/movie sin, but Reo is luckily no sinner

As demonstrated above, Reo has an excellent understanding of his role and is careful in maintaining it even when the musical calls for comedy. Reo employed a very advanced technique of achieving comedy; namely discrepant solemness. He does not loosen up or start monkeying around; instead he maintains his usual up-tightness while tricking Aberline into saying his own name wrong. The brilliancy in this scene was not just Reo’s ability to employ this advanced comedy technique, but also that the nature of this skit was perfectly in character for this insidious, manipulative brat.

In Tango on the Campania Reo filled most of the ‘space for growth’ he still had in the previous musical. Even though Reo’s body language on stage was already great in Noah’s Ark Circus, he did have the tendency to stand idle when the scene’s focus was not on him. In the latest musical however, Reo would not forget to also act when he was in the background.

His singing also largely improved, and was able to prolong his notes as well as transitioning between the notes. He still had trouble hitting the highest of notes, but his voice would no longer die off mid-way in its ascending.

Fukuzaki Nayuta

I think Nayuta is a great actor too, and personally a seemingly very underrated gem. In the first run of the Lycoris that Blazes the Earth (2014) Nayuta was admittedly not the best actor ever seen in theatre history. However, he did up the game for Ciel actors even at the time. Acting style is more preference-bound, but undeniably Nayuta’s singing was more solid than any past Ciel performer before him. Despite him having outclassed past Ciels’ singing, Nayuta received a lot of hate from fans, most amounting to: “I can’t watch this, he is too ugly.” (Yes, very constructive, very legit. Ughum. The Kurofandom never fails to remind me how so many are here just for the pretttiiiiiiessss >_>)

In 2015, Nayuta’s voice was actively dropping, sending him in a constant swing between up-and-down. I don’t have experience with a dropping voice, but I heard from everyone who did that it is incredibly hard to control your voice in speaking, let alone singing. And yet, though his voice was rough at all times, Nayuta did manage to hit all the tones. I find that very impressive. I think technique-wise, Nayuta is the strongest singer among all Ciel stage-actors so far. I haven’t heard his singing after his voice-change was complete, but I can imagine him having become a very good singer now. His capacity for control over his voice is superb, after all.

Nayuta’s acting is very subtle but convincing. When Nayuta-bocchan was in his cage, he even added some little movements of the hand that would not be in people’s usual expectations given the situation. To me, this little quirk seemed to convey how despite already having hit rock bottom, the last straw had only fallen just now. This boy is not just scared and desperate, he is murderously angry and resolute.

Nayuta’s subtle and yet convincing body-language can be seen throughout the musical. To demonstrate what I mean by ‘convincing’, I wish to point at Tango on the Campania. Compare Nayuta’s shaking to the headbanging of the stand-in for O!Ciel... Nope. (This actress is not a child, so I can be harsher.)

Again, Nayuta’s acting is subtle, but it does mean it is easily missed, especially in a live theatre. (’Overacting’ is obviously a thing (see demonstration 1 above ⇈), but to the people who initially criticised Furukawa for “moving around too much”, that’s the theatre medium for you. Theatre was not made to be recorded and viewed in close proximity. Moving any less will basically be invisible in a theatre (see my analysis of Tamaki’s performance as Snake).)

Enough side-tracked, back to Nayuta. In the scene where Nayuta-bocchan just woke up, he performed the panic dying down slowly expertly. We can tell that the shaking and heavy breathing really got the better of him, but that the boy was actively trying not to show his butler.  This was probably not visible live, but we have footage of it, so let us savour the panic-dying-down for what it is.

Though I might go as far as to say Nayuta might be better suited as a film-actor than theatre-actor, what was not missed on live audiences was this iconic scene below ⇊ when it finally dawned in O!Ciel that he had been chasing the wrong tail all along.

The atmosphere he created was incredibly tense, and we could practically hear the gears grinding and suddenly coming to a shocking halt. Bravo. It is ultimately for this scene that I think Nayuta would make a phenomenal stage-actor with just a BIT more stage-oriented instructions from the director.

Another scene that also conveyed the tension excellently was when O!Ciel was putting up with the Viscount. Nayuta knew better than put on an insulting high-pitched voice in parody of “a girl’s voice”, instead he minded the intonation of speaking and subtler mannerisms girls are socialised to perform.

When the Viscount really got way too close, Sasaki’s acting was incredibly flamboyant and loud, and yet it never threatened to overshadow Nayuta’s performance. Nayuta knows very well how to keep people’s attention on him even when he doesn’t have lines to say. When the Viscount turned Nayuta-bocchan around, the boy’s facial expression spoke voluuuumes.

Sakamoto, Nishii and Tanaka

I don’t have footage of them, and I am not going to get them legally or illegally, so I will include no visual examples of them in this post.

I don’t want to be harsh on children, they all did their best I believe, but do allow me to say that I am not very enthusiastic about their performances.

Sakamoto’s performance of Ciel was not very memorable, but I think it mostly has something to do with his part in the script just not being memorable at all. To sum up; Ciel in ‘Friendship’ received some guests from Japan, played chess, and stared wide shifty-eyed until the case solved itself. Sakamoto’s singing was decent, though. I wish they capitalised more on that.

Nishii... I think many people were initially especially enthusiastic about him because he did not “look like Vincent Phantomhive”. He did his best, I could tell he had fun in the performance, but whatever acting-talent he might have, the musical never gave him any chance to shine. That musical gave his character ZERO nuance. Nishii’s singing was very unpolished, and in the mere 3 weeks of audition time, there was also no time to get it polished. But then again, the same goes for the singing of most of that cast.

Tanaka... I could tell he did his best, but perhaps he was doing his best not to f*ck up a bit too hard. The songs in this musical were rather challenging, and Tanaka always seemed very tense as he was trying to chase the notes. It was like he was desperately clinging to his spot within a safety-zone, which ultimately meant he didn’t explore any potentials outside the range of monotony. When it comes to acting, it also seemed like cranky outbursts were the only emotion he dared touch upon.

So that was that! Thanks for reading!

[chinatzuify-blog]

Theory about Mey-rin

In the last two manga chapters, we’ve seen our cute maid when she was a kid living poorly in the streets of London, and a lot of people in the kurofandom had noticed how much she looked like O!Ciel back then 

And no, this is not a theory about how the two of them could possibly be related or something... I mean maybe, but this is about the loyalty Mey-rin feels towards her master, not only because she feels in debt with him for giving her a better life and a family after such a tragedy in her previous life, but because since the earl looks a bit like her when she was the same age (remember O!Ciel was 12 years old when they met) and lived something very similar to her, losing her beloved ones and being forced to live like an adult at a very young age, I think Mey-rin can understand what the earl feels in a very deep way, probably she can’t help but see herself in him, and that’s one of the reasons she has to protect O!Ciel, because she’s feeling she’s protecting the kid she once was, because after her friends’ death, she had nobody else to do that for her

Ok, maybe it’s not a theory but an interpretation, in any case, like happens with Sebastian looking like Vincent, I think that resembling has a reason and could explain a few thing

[fleurreel-blog]

WHAT’S YOUR OTP FOR YOUR MUSE?:

In General: CielLizzy ovo On the blog: Ciel with all the Lizzies uvu

WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO RP WHEN IT COMES TO SHIPPING?:

Everything. Give me the Fluff, the Angst, the Relationship Problems, the AUs, EVERYTHING.

HOW LARGE DOES THE AGE GAP HAVE TO BE TO MAKE IT UNCOMFORTABLE?:

Ughhh i really dont know. Depends on the verse, like in his normal Teen age I’d say not more than 3 years, but with adult Ciel the age gap could be bigger... it really just depends. 

ARE YOU SELECTIVE WHEN SHIPPING?:

Kind of. I do not need to know Elizabeth RPers to do fluffy stuff since that pairing is pretty much Canon. However, with real deep shipping content and stuff I can get rather selective because I prefer to know the people i ship with.

HOW FAR DO STEAMY MOMENTS HAVE TO GO BEFORE THEY’RE CONSIDERED NSFW?:

Depends. Though I personally would tag my rps as nsfw as soon as my muse is planning for dem smexy times.

WHO ARE OTHER MUSES YOU SHIP YOUR MUSE WITH?:  

*points at all the Lizzies* Those beautiful flowers right there. Every single one deserves Ciel’s love.

DOES ONE HAVE TO ASK TO SHIP WITH YOU?:

Ugh that depeeends too. Like if it’s very obvious that our muses get along in rp even slightly romantically then you dont have to ask me. But if you wanna rp for a ships sake I need to know that. And also I just like to have a heads up, like a ‘oh btw i totally think they are a ship now’ from my rp partner.

HOW OFTEN DO YOU LIKE TO SHIP?: 

I love ships, I’m up for all the ships. I def need more ship content than i have now.

ARE YOU MULTISHIP?:

Yes.

ARE YOU SHIP OBSESSED OR SHIP MORE-OR-LESS?:

Ugh, more or less I’d say. If we ship, then i can be quite in love with out ship.

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE SHIP IN YOUR CURRENT FANDOM?

In the whole Kurofandom, I would say partly SieglindexAstre bc of some rps i had as Sieglinde and a friend. Though regardless of roleplay content it would be AstrexLizzy

FINALLY, HOW DOES ONE SHIP WITH YOU? :

Come at me and Ciel. I don’t bite. Ciel might. But I do not. Justh throw shippy stuff at Ciel until he drowns in shippy content an u got a ship.

TAGGED BY: @filledecanopus

TAGGING: whoever wants to steal it *fingerguns*

[tothelasthoursofmylife]

Would I be a pain if I were to ask you to answer all of these questions? xD If not, I can ask for more specific numbers, but I'm really interested in you sharing all your thoughts about writing your fanfiction since it's an amazing one! :3

O.O

That was… unexpected.

But… okay. Here you go.

1: What inspired you to write the fic this way?

I was once asked what the hell the text in italics should mean. I actually adopted this writing style after testing it out for an Aldnoah.Zero FF I am still working on. (>.<) I’ve thought that it would fit nicely to WotQ for… reasons.

2: What scene did you first put down?

(It has changed, though.)

3: What’s your favorite line of narration?

:/ I can’t decide.

4: What’s your favorite line of dialogue?

It’s in my snippets, saved for later. It’s one of the dumbest things I could think of.

Also, every time, I can write a “funny” dialogue.

5: What part was hardest to write?

EVERY. I needed days to piece together the first passage.

The worst were the entire second arc and Chapter 17. (And Miss P’s.)

6: What makes this fic special or different from all your other fics?

It’s very long.

I still didn’t drop it.

It’s not as terribly written.

I do far too much research for it.

When it’s finished finished, I’ve decided that it will be my final FF. That’s reason enough for it to be very special to me.7: Where did the title come from?

The main story is about a girl who’s the Watchdog of the Queen. The extras are about a boy who is the Watchdog of the Queen. It’s as obvious as that. I am uncreative.

Actually, there’s a little bit more than that to it. I wanted to call this FF Watchdog of the Queen: The Queen of Darkness or Watchdog of the Queen: Until the Last Hours. (It’s still called like that… in my head.) I dropped the subtitle because 1) it would make the title too long, 2) I realised that this is not just the story of one Watchdog.

8: Did any real people or events inspire any part of it?

At the beginning? No. Not really.

Now? Yes. Like the Zucchini Special. I named/based Gisela after/on that one teacher I absolutely despise. That exchange: “What kind of weird holiday is that?” “The weirdest.” was inspired by an actual conversation I had. It went like that though: The other person: “What kind of random daily routine is that?” (After I asked if he threw a zucchini onto his neighbour’s porch on his way home.) Me: “The randomest.” (I am weird.)

This sentence “At the end of the day, I was still a human after all.” was also inspired by some real-life stuff.

And some more. T.T And some haven’t come now.9: Were there any alternate versions of this fic?

Yes. Many. 

I have an entire folder full. The “Snippets” document is also full of outdated stuff. There’s a ton of stuff in my “Notes” document which will never see the light of day. For some time, I even had 16 (!!!) arcs. I really hate myself. Then, I cleaned up: cutting arcs, cutting character plotlines, cutting characters, compromising stuff. “The Siblings, Partners” and “The Earl, Reckless” were, actually, saved from a cut arc which was only about Vincent and his life. I cut it because it simply wouldn’t have fit with the rest of the main story. Also, the Zucchini Special was supposed to consist of three parts.

In the very first draft, Cloudia and Cedric called themselves by their first names.

10: Why did you choose this pairing for this particular story?

I read Black Butler during the summer holidays two years ago. Then, just like always, I read everything on the wikia/on TV tropes/read every theory I could find. Then, I stumbled over the theories about Cloudia and Undertaker. It’s all because of the theorists of the Kurofandom.

Also, I was so sad that there are hardly any Cloudia/UT FFs that I decided to do it on my own. ._.

11: What do you like best about this fic?

That people actually read it. I am so thankful for it; I still cannot believe that this niche story has readers. I thank you all. You are all awesome.

12: What do you like least about this fic?

1. Chapter 9.

2. Dumb historical inaccuracies.

13: What music did you listen to, if any, to get in the mood for writing this story. Or if you didn’t listen to anything, what do you think readers should listen to to accompany us while reading?

I love basing stuff on songs! But not everything I hear while writing inspires a part of it. I don’t have much time right now. I will write a bit more about it later. ^^’ (Is that fine?)

14: Is there anything you wanted readers to learn from reading this fic?

Uh. Not really. But my question is… did anyone learn anything from it?

(I know one learned the word “floccinaucinihilipilification” from it. I learned the word from another FF XD)15: What did you learn from writing this fic?

Many things! Everything I researched - from Horniton lace to the approximate depth of Brent reservoir. I still don’t know if the altar in St Margaret’s Chapel can be moved or not, though.

I’ve only now realised that I reblogged the wrong questionnaire. Well, whatever.

[problematickuroboxes]

[This user is Undertaker and wishes the Kurofandom would stop shipping him with Grell.]

[dinkjayjay]

your thoughts on the p4/fags?

I fucking love them m8

Lets pray for nothing bad to happen to them in the next few chapters, or I’m leaving the kurofandom byeeeeeee

[facadesmiled]

Ok so like some of the fandom is calling Our!Ciel or whatever his name is "Sebastian's Ciel" and I'm...... can you not do that bc that sounds creepy and gross as fuck.