#korina’s origin spoilers

[tea-dragonz]

Korina isn’t always right, and that’s a good thing.

I’ve rambled a lot about the fandom’s treatment of Mors, now I have to talk about their treatment of Korina. Gonna be talking about Korina’s Origin in specific because OoO doesn’t give us too much to work with in regards to this topic.

There's this thing I noticed in fandom, where characters (female characters especially) of certain personality traits get propped up on pedestals. They usually tick off half or more of these traits: kind/caring, subservient or submissive in some capacity, has anxious tendencies, shy/soft-spoken/socially awkward, puts others’ emotional needs before their own.

These characters are typically universally adored by the fandom, which is by no means a bad thing. The problem lies when these characters are treated like they can do no wrong, like they have no flaws, and like their word is gospel and their view of a situation is always the right one to have. It leaves little room for discussion and nuance surrounding a character, because the outcome will always be the same: they did no wrong, no questions asked. Their purity and innocence is also always emphasized for some reason, even in cases where the characters are clearly established to be adults???

Now obviously this isn’t always applicable, for example shows for young children tend to have a character’s view of a situation be more straightforward rather than nuanced. But here I’m talking specifically about Korina in Korina’s Origin, a series in which characters are allowed to be wrong and have nuanced moments while still being characters the audience can root for. Korina herself has many of these moments, and yet the fandom will always take her side no matter what.

Korina has moments where she acts out of emotion, she has moments where she doesn’t have the full picture, and she has moments where she makes the wrong decision. One moment I can think of is the episode where Mors is talking about his daddy issues with Thanatos and says to Korina “I understand now why you hate your father” or something along those lines. Korina gets upset with him and says that they are nothing alike and that Mors is wrong to compare them. And yeah, Mors probably shouldn’t compare them, but also Korina’s reaction in the moment seems harsh? She was clearly biased towards Thanatos’ side of the situation there and seems to completely dismiss any legitimate reasons for Mors’ animosity about his father. (Which mind you, includes having him be put in what is essentially solitary confinement for days or weeks at a time when he was only 10, like that is the one thing out of everything that I can’t excuse Thanatos for.) I’ve always viewed that moment as one where Korina is flawed and acts out of emotion, but I guess other people don’t see it like that???

(The video in question)

Even Kat herself has stated that Korina isn’t always meant to be in the right. It’s on one of the livestreams and I don’t remember which one, but she states that Korina isn’t supposed to be fully in the right by insistently searching for her mother. (It was between the episode where Korina hears her mother’s voice in her dreams and the one where Thanatos goes giant mode I think? I’ll put it in the reblogs if I find it)

Either way, I rarely if ever see people talk about these moments with the possibility that Korina was in the wrong. And look, I love her too. I relate to her struggles with standing up to people and RSD, but at the end of the day she’s just as flawed as any other person, and that’s great! But I feel like a lot of people just want the ideal version of Korina, with none of her flaws or shortcomings. Every instance of her lashing out is a girlboss moment, every instance where she serves others to her own detriment without question is selfless, every instance where her social issues hold her back is a relatable moment.

Thanatos is allowed to be the clearly flawed but still lovable father. Mors is allowed to be an antihero asshole who still cares for Korina and Thanatos in his own twisted way. People acknowledge their flaws and still love them, so why can't they do the same for Korina?

[wordsmithic]

I've read through The Other Evil master post and I don't understand how or where the Persephone retelling comes in?

Glad you asked! (and thanks for the feedback) Some very generic spoilers ahead, which are actually beats of the HxP myth (so are they really spoilers?) Keep in mind it's not an exact myth but a modern retelling with original characters following the beats and the themes of the HxP myth. Like Cinder is supposed to be a Cinderella retelling, and Court of Thorns and Roses is a retelling of Beauty and the Beast with the Tamlin myth woven in.

Raphael's domain is death, obviously, whereas Ismene's kin oppose beings like Raphael, and campaign for their right to gain back eternal life. Ismene lives in the clan her mother built and prepares for her life as its future leader. Ismene's mother, Phaidra, is vital to the survival of the clan and has power and influence in the Balkans. Her hobby is gardening (cliche but why not!) and she taught her daughter and husband (a slight nudge to Triptolemos) to cultivate the earth.

Ismene is abducted by Raphael (retaliation for similar harm Ismene's family did to his) in the Greek countryside. Ismene is taken to Raphael's residence, the House he built for himself and his allies. Ismene's biological father essentially gave permission to Raphael to abduct her. Zeus in the myth simply wanted to marry his daughter, but here Ismene's bio-father wants her gone because he is a paranoid asshole and the most absent father in the country.

A tripartite immortal (playing the role of Hecate) shows Ismene the way to power inside the House, against Raphael's wishes. Bringing her managerial experience to the table (because "seniority is a mindset") Ismene amasses an army and the respect of the people there while learning her role in the new domain. She does that under the name of "Korina" (meaning "little Kore"). That tripartite immortal wasn't that imaginative when giving her a fake name.

Ismene and Raphael clash many times and they learn each other's perspectives on a war between their species that goes on for thousands of years. (yes it's technically the Life vs Death concept but I wanted some action, therefore we will go beyond the theoretical discussion) So please imagine a young feral being that stays alive out of sheer spite against an immortal people call the Poisoner.

Despite her position, it's not easy for Ismene to leave because of other dangers. But she will do anything to see her mother and home again. Anything.

In the meantime, Ismene's mother brings hell on earth in order to get her daughter back. People suffer and die in the process - including those in Raphael's House - as a reference to the destruction the first Winter brought on earth, as a result of the goddess Demeter's grief.

There is the enemies-to-lovers trope, quite a few pomegranates and pomegranate snacks, and a marriage that includes deception (but believe me, it's not what comes to mind). There is also a three-headed dog Raphael accidentally made when he was messing with genetic experiments 👀

I hope I didn't forget anything!

[aion-rsa]

Army of Thieves Ending Explained

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This article contains spoilers for both Army of Thieves and Army of the Dead.

If you ever wondered what brought Ludwig Dieter to zombie-infested Las Vegas, Army of Thieves has the answers. The Army of the Dead prequel not only serves as an origin story for Ludwig (Matthias Schweighöfer) but also as an introduction for a whole host of new narrative possibilities for Netflix’s fledgling cinematic universe. In fact, it wouldn’t be surprising to see Army of Thieves become its own spin-off series if the first movie does well on the streaming service.

While Zack Snyder isn’t in the director’s chair this time around, the prequel does fill in a few blanks about Army of the Dead that will be of interest to fans of the original zombie movie. Here’s how the ending of the heist film leads to Sin City…

Why did Gwendoline sacrifice herself?

There was only one way that Ludwig and Gwendoline’s budding romance could end. When we meet Ludwig in Army of the Dead, he’s already running solo in Las Vegas, therefore the final minutes of Army of Thieves must explain why Gwendoline (Nathalie Emmanuel) is no longer with him when Scott Ward (Dave Bautista) approaches him in Sin City.

After almost two hours of being two steps behind the master criminal, loser Interpol agent Delacroix (Jonathan Cohen) finally catches up with Gwendoline and her gang of quirky bank robbers. First, he catches genius hacker Korina (Ruby O. Fee) who is forced to give up the location of Gwendoline’s getaway boat to secure her little brother’s future (the reason she’s become a wanted criminal in the first place). That allows Delacroix to get the jump on Gwendoline before she can escape with Ludwig and all of the stolen money.

Knowing she’s reached the end of the line, and at the wrong end of Delacroix’s gun, Gwendoline offers to cut a deal with the agent. She’ll surrender to Interpol, but only if Delacroix lets Ludwig go. She says that Ludwig isn’t really a part of the operation, that he’s a “nobody.” It’s as much a way to distance Ludwig from the crimes they have committed together as it is to push the safecracker away from her. Ending their love affair before it truly begins is the only way to keep her new beau safe.

Delacroix agrees to the deal, deciding that he “never saw” Ludwig when he caught Gwendoline. That is how Ludwig ends up as the last thief standing, and with lots of money to his name, and why none of his comrades join him on his trip to America.

Why did Ludwig move to Las Vegas?

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But why does Ludwig choose to go to Vegas of all places? After all, the city lies in ruins after the zombie outbreak forced the U.S. military to close the strip down. Earlier in the movie, Ludwig even had nightmares about the undead that now roam the streets of Sin City. Why would he move closer to those flesh-eating monsters?

Well, it all goes back to Ludwig and Gwendoline’s dream of cracking every vault in the mythical Ring Cycle. Remember, it’s four vaults, and Ludwig and Gwendoline only managed to break into three of them by the end of the movie. The final one, the legendary Götterdämmerung, just happens to be the vault that Scott Ward and his team need to break into in Army of the Dead. Yes, Ludwig’s journey was always meant to end in Bly Tanaka’s casino. By joining Ward’s squad, Ludwig can finally crack the final Ring Cycle vault and honor Gwendoline’s sacrifice.

The fact that all of these vaults tie back to Tanaka (Hiroyuki Sanada) does beg the question…

Did Bly Tanaka mastermind the events of Army of Thieves, too?

Wealthy casino owner Bly Tanaka seems to be the villain that hangs over the entire Army of the Dead universe. In Snyder’s movie, Tanaka is the client who hires Scott Ward and a squad of mercenaries to recover the millions of dollars sitting inside a Las Vegas casino vault (the Götterdämmerung), but he has ulterior motives. The casino mission is just a distraction for the real objective: acquire alpha zombie DNA and sell it to the U.S. Department of Defense, which plans to create its own army of super zombies (hence the title of the movie).

“Greedy rich guy puts others in harm’s way for his own financial benefit” sounds like a simple enough yarn to follow, right? Well, some fans have speculated that there’s even more to it than that. What if Tanaka is actually the Devil?

Omari Hardwick’s Vanderohe says it best when he suggests to Ludwig and Guz (Raul Castillo) in Army of the Dead that their team could be stuck in a time loop, cursed to repeat their failed heist over and over for all eternity: “Think about it: us. I mean, look at them, it’s us,” Vanderohe says to Dieter and Guz after they encounter a group of corpses outside the vault that look almost exactly like members of their team who are still alive at that point in the movie. “It could be us in another timeline, and we’re caught in some infinite loop of fighting and dying, fighting and dying, fighting and dying. And Tanaka? Puppet master, Devil, God. And we — you, me, Guz, and the rest of the team — simply pawns in some perverse play where we’re destined to repeat our failures. And finally, in some mind-bending, ironic reveal, it all begins again.”

There are definitely several clues sprinkled throughout the film that suggest Vanderohe’s time loop theory is actually fact. We go into much more detail about this here. But to bring it all back to Army of Thieves, that the money kept in the vaults in the movie belongs to Tanaka suggests that he’s a mastermind who’s been playing a long game with each member of Ward’s team.

Or maybe this is just supposed to be a fun little easter egg. Your choice.

Did Ludwig survive Army of the Dead?

The question Army of Thieves doesn’t answer about Ludwig is the biggest one of all: did the master safecracker survive the events of Army of the Dead? Those viewers hoping that Thieves would end with an epilogue set during Army of the Dead got their wish, but it’s more like a deleted scene that shows the first time Ludwig met Scott and Maria (Ana de la Reguera). The fate of Ludwig remains a bit of a mystery for now.

“But Zeus clearly killed the dude!” you might be yelling. Well, yes, that’s definitely the most likely outcome of Ludwig’s valiant sacrifice to save Vanderohe at the end of the movie. The last time we see him, Zeus is about to have his way with him just as the vault door closes, but we never actually watch him die on screen. Plus, even Snyder isn’t so sure Ludwig is dead.

“We don’t see him die on camera, and there’s still some time left,” Snyder said of Ludwig’s fate in an interview with Inverse. “I won’t tell you what happens in Army of the Dead 2 — aka Planet of the Dead — but let’s just say that there’s a chance Dieter survives.”

Indeed, since Army of the Dead spends so much time showing how so many other members of the team die, an off-screen exit for Ludwig could mean anything. Maybe he manages to slip away at the last minute?

Either way, we’ll have to wait for Planet of the Dead to get those answers.

Will there be an Army of Thieves 2?

While Army of the Dead 2 is definitely happening, there’s no indication that Army of Thieves will get a sequel, too. That said, the six-year time gap between the prequel and the original is big enough that Ludwig could have theoretically had more adventures in Europe before heading to Las Vegas. Maybe he hatched a plan to free Gwendoline? Or perhaps he robbed a few more banks?

If he survived the events of Army of the Dead, that could also mean Army of Thieves 2 could take place after the events in Las Vegas, following a seasoned criminal who now longs to reunite with the love of his life in a European countryside. The point is that we’d love to see Ludwig and Gwendoline reunited in a sequel!

Army of Thieves is out now on Netflix.

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[housedzemael-archived]

OH SHIT I COULD MAKE THE CHARACTER INSPO A FUCKING CIRCLE

Ok for those who dont remember danica was originally named korina and her design was based around her because I didnt really know what i wanted to do with her

Since 5.2 I've been playing with two different aus for danica from garlemald since spoiler thing in relation to funky fresh trial

I could take one of those aus and just make it korina, since the only one I've built up a lot has been the dalamud one for danica so having the sniper one for korina would fit perfectly

Especially given what her elite spec in gw2 was (deadeye)

So korina would have worked for Gaius, now to figure out ranking nonsense

I have an idea as to how and it was inspired by the meme my old dnd group made for her which was one of those like

Person a: I've never done anything wrong in my life ever

Person b: I know this and I love you

And they made it Lazav and korina

So my brain made a leap and went "ah yes garlean spy maybe?" But hmmmm

[tea-dragonz]

//Korina’s Origin Spoliers

Writing out my thoughts as I watch the Season Finale (still not over the fact that it’s the season finale tbh 😭)

If they are going to go the route of making Keion an actual romance candidate for Korina I hope to gods there isn’t too much weird love triangle stuff (and I hope that the Keion x Mors x Korina polycule is an option now)

At least Keion took rejection well lmao

I really hope that Asteria doesn’t get fridged before we get to see more of her 😔

Thumbnail art is fire though, Ingapotejto art slays as always

[tea-dragonz]

//Korina’s Origin Spoilers (Episode: Visit From Mother)

So, about the newest episode…

We finally got our first look at Asteria (well, just her eyes) and it looks like my assumptions about her hair and eyes being blue like Korina’s was off. She has pink eyes with what looks like pink sclera, and her eyelashes are purple/indigo, so it seems like Korina gets her eyes from her father. I just assumed that since she is supposed to be the spitting image of Asteria, they’d have similar colors, but I guess god genes work differently. Then again, Mors is gray despite Keres being red and his father being (presumably) human so I shouldn’t be surprised.

Hera’s sus and Asteria knows it, no surprise there.

Hmm… so something’s threatening the stars/the skies and it’s out of Olympus’ control to deal with it. I guess it makes sense that she’s never told anyone about, least of all Morpheus and Korina lest they try to find her and end up in danger. However, seeing as even Zeus doesn’t know why she left, it seems that none of the Olympians are aware of this looming threat.

Kind of a hot take, but I find it weird how Asteria is just unloading new powers onto Korina with little warning and without her consent, especially with how much pain she was in. It feels especially weird with the previous episode showing kind of a parallel situation to this one with Mors and Thanatos. In OoO we see that Keres suddenly revealing Mors’ true form and powers put a lot of stress on him, and in KO the process is stated to be painful. Thanatos knows that Mors wants to see his true form, and gives Mors an option that will make it as painless as possible, as well as another person to perform the spell if he doesn’t want Thanatos to do it. This was a painful experience for Korina and I hope she doesn’t brush it off entirely when she gets to meet Asteria face to face. There’s this trope I’ve seen in OoO sometimes where the demichildren have genuine grievances with their god parents but everything’s all forgiven because they gave them cool powers or whatever and it gets annoying fast. Parents should be allowed to be nuanced without immediately being written off as either perfect or abusive with no in between (Thanatos is a good example of a nuanced parent). I’m not saying Asteria is a bad parent or evil or whatever, though I do hope this gets addressed at some point.

On a lighter note, we got some playful Morina banter and a possible lunch date in the near future! Mors isn’t very good at the whole dating thing yet but he’s trying his best. :)

[tea-dragonz]

A Very Long Analysis of Mors' Personality Development

So, in both Korina’s Origin and Origins of Olympus, there’s the underlying plot point of whether or not Mors’ violent and cruel nature is an inevitability. Both series seem to lean towards “yes”, using Keres’ genetics as an explanation for why he acts the way he does, but genetics alone don’t paint the full picture. They are often affected by the environment around them, and with the look into Mors’ childhood provided by Korina’s Origin, we can look at the domino effect of events that led him to this point.

(Very long post with Korina's Origin spoilers ahead, this is your final warning)

Starting off with Mors’ first appearance(s), The God of Death (Episode 2) and Mors’ Strength (Episode 3). Korina is sent to play with Thanatos' son, Mors. While playing with Korina, Mors pushes her and unintentionally injures her, which leads to Luchnos and Thanatos telling him off. There are a few takeaways from this whole sequence:

Mors mentions that Korina is the first person he’s seen that isn’t a ghost (technically untrue because of Thanatos, but I doubt they play together a lot in this manner)

Luchnos says that Mors is just barely allowed to roughhouse with him and the other spirits, who would be more durable than the average human or demigod due to being undead

So basically, Mors at this point has little to no reference to how easily he can hurt other people. It's good that measures are in place to ensure that he can't hurt himself or others, but he can't learn to keep himself in check if he's unaware of the harm he can cause in the first place.

Keres (Episode 8) is the first introduction to Mors' mother, Keres, and the first time we hear of Mors' inherited violent nature. Mors himself doesn't play a huge role here, only thing of note on his end is that he doesn't know that Keres is his mother. The main focus of the episode comes from Keres and Thanatos' interactions. Keres emphasizes how Mors' violent nature is an inevitability, while Thanatos is insistent that he could raise Mors into a non violent person. This debate of nature vs. nurture, even when not explicitly brought up, is one of the main themes that follows Mors throughout the entire series.

During Family Dinner (Episode 11), Mors asks when Korina is going home, still under the impression that Korina was only staying with them temporarily. Korina was left in Thanatos' care for an indeterminate amount of time by her father and was essentially abandoned by him. The question ends up being triggering to Korina and she goes back to her room, and Thanatos scolds Mors for being insensitive (despite the fact that Mors doesn't actually understand what's happening). He apologizes on his own in the next episode, Heart a Flutter (Episode 12), and seems to understand that he hurt Korina's feelings, though he doesn't understand why until she explains it to him. This is a relatively minor incident, but it still shows how Mors is unaware of the harm he can cause but gets punished for it regardless (and often without an explanation as to what he did wrong from the adults around him).

Jumping forward a bit to Death’s Duty (Episode 17), we get the first look at Mors’ budding violent tendencies. While they were initially hinted at with his play date with Korina and the Keres episode, this episode is the first time we see him consider purposefully using force on people to make them do what he wants. Thanatos (bringing Mors along) attempts to talk down some spirits who are considering escaping from Purgatory, though they remain steadfast in their plans. After the failed attempt at negotiations, Mors asks Thanatos why he didn't just use force on them, saying that if he was in charge he would do so. Thanatos just responds that Mors shouldn't say that and that the spirits are allowed to disagree with him. His response does make sense from the perspective of a god-ruler who doesn't need to deal with every small problem in his domain, especially if no one is getting hurt. But to a kid like Mors, it's basically a non-answer. To him, Thanatos is just leaving the problem to fester without doing anything to solve it.

This comes up again in BANISHED! (Episode 21), where one of the spirits from the rebellion tries to ask Korina for information of Purgatory and Thanatos after she catches them in her room. Thanatos finds out and banishes him. Mors expresses frustration over the rebellion situation not having been solved and chooses to take things into his own hands. RAGE (Episode 22) is the first time we see Mors intentionally use violence for his own gain. After the scare involving the spirit in Korina's room, Mors goes to the village to beat the crap out the the rebellion leader. Thanatos arrives and stops him, but the rebellion leader steps down. Considering that this is essentially just a continuation of the plotline from Episode 17, this means that Mors has experienced a situation firsthand where diplomacy failed and violence led to a resolution, which would likely throw all of Thanatos' teachings into question for him.

In Salt in the Wound (Episode 23) and Favorite Child (Episode 24), Mors faces the repercussions of his violent actions from Episode 22. Thanatos grounds him, which leaves him isolated while Thanatos dotes on Korina. There nothing wrong with Thanatos treating Korina like a daughter, but as we find out in later episodes, Mors was aware of this and even expresses some jealousy towards Korina for being the golden child. Something else interesting to note is that at this point, Mors doesn’t express anger towards Thanatos or the punishment. He is only upset that he disappointed Thanatos, though he also doesn’t express any regret for his actions. This is the first major incident that leads to the rift between Mors and Thanatos. It introduces the ongoing conflict of their differing views on violence, as well as the isolation that Mors experiences as a result.

The spirit rebellion from the previous episodes (under new management) returns in Rebellion (Episode 30) and Leaving Purgatory (Episode 31). They kidnap Mors and Korina. While Mors initially tries to fight back, he stops when Korina tells him to out of fear that the kidnappers may hurt them. Later Thanatos arrives and uses his powers to open a way out of Purgatory in exchange for the kids, though it ultimately erases their souls rather than bringing them back to life as they hoped. Again, this moment is relatively minor compared to everything else here, but I mention it because it ultimately reinforces Mors' beliefs that force is needed to resolve these sorts of situations.

Breaking Point (Episode 32) has the Purgatory family going on a picnic in the human world, in an area presumably far away from humans. Thanatos leaves Mors and Korina alone with Luchnos for a few moments, and a group of teenagers arrives and basically just bullies the kids (with Luchnos unable to do anything without blowing their cover as magical beings). Mors ends up beating up two of the three teens before Thanatos breaks it up, with one of them ending up dying. However, Thanatos keeps this information from Mors and does so until his adulthood, which leads to miscommunications and misunderstandings between them in Mors' childhood.

In Final Lesson (Episode 33) and Unfair (Episode 34), Mors is once again punished by grounding due to his actions in Episode 32. This time he shows more anger at being punished, truly believing that he was being punished just for defending himself from harassment (Again, the fact that he just straight up killed someone was kept from him, and he is unaware of the damage he is capable of causing). Once again, his belief and compliance with Thanatos' teachings are called into question.

Everything from the past several episodes finally boils over in Demon (Episode 37). Mors tries to play with Korina while she is doing her housekeeping training, though since he is still grounded she is forced to ignore him. This causes Mors to break down and lash out angrily at the adults, in the process revealing his true form that resembles Keres. After putting him to sleep with magic, Thanatos uses a stronger spell to suppress Mors' true form again. Seeing as this is the second to last episode that takes place during Mors and Korina's childhood, we never get to see the immediate aftermath of this. This is, however, treated as the final nail in the coffin that causes the shift in Mors and Thanatos' relationship that we see in adulthood. Thanatos once again chooses to suppress the problem further while not addressing the root of the issue, and Mors has likely lost a lot of trust in Thanatos’ (and possibly other authority figures’) judgement because of this incident.

One final thing I want to mention is the so-called "Sibling AU" shown on Discord. I consider it to be semi-canon since Kat, Davis, and Damien were involved in the making of it, and it was originally planned to air as a series though it was scrapped in favor of Korina’s Origin. The general premise involves all of Mors’ older siblings surviving into adulthood and helping Thanatos raise their younger brother. The brief glimpses we see of Mors show a calmer and relatively well-adjusted individual, which to me prove that Mors isn't destined to be the way he is. There are a couple differences that could have led to this shift:

Mors' older siblings are alive (and presumably have inherited Keres' violent nature as well), which provides him with a larger support system that understands how to deal with his violent nature directly rather than suppressing it

Thanatos has had more experience raising kids like him, which makes him less likely to repeat the mistakes he made with Mors in Korina's Origin

Mors is not truly fated to be the way he is. In a world where he is able to receive proper support from those who understand his condition rather than suppress it, he is able to manage it more effectively.

So what was the whole point of this long winded analysis? To analyze the many little moments in Mors' childhood that led to his strained relationship with Thanatos and personality shift in adulthood.

Mors was kept in the dark about his violent nature and the full scope of his violent actions throughout childhood. While it is easy to understand Thanatos' rationale in this regard, from Mors' perspective he was harshly punished and overcorrected for what he believed to be minor incidents. His punishments, almost always involving isolation, never truly gave him insight into what he did wrong and only served to isolate him further from the people who could have helped him in that regard. I love Thanatos as a character and truly believe that he had the best of intentions, but the problem with him is that he was too determined to prove Keres wrong. At any sign of Mors becoming like her, he did all he could to shut it down but never got to the root of why he did what he did in the first place. In the end, the suppression only made Mors unable to understand and control his emotions and violent tendencies in adulthood.

And as a final personal note from me, I am a neurodivergent person who heavily relates to Mors, and many times I have discussed the parallels I see with Mors' story to my own experiences. Intrusive thoughts that make you want to do something destructive just to see what would happen, punishments and scoldings that just don't make sense to you, adults who are probably well-intentioned but make things worse, etc. I mainly wrote this because I see so many people in the fandom question why Mors does certain things, or why his personality shifted the way it did, and honestly these sorts of sentiments caught me by surprise because this was what I was seeing from day one. Anyways, hoped you enjoyed this ~2k word ramble about one of my comfort characters ^-^

[tea-dragonz]

Disclaimer: Will be talking about some heavier mental health stuff, will mark it under a subtitle. Also, will be discussing spoilers for Origins of Olympus Season 3 (Mors’ POV) and Korina’s Origin.

Note that these are headcannons and my personal interpretations of these characters, and that it may not align with the original intent of the creators. I probably missed some things, and none of these things on their own would indicate neurodivergence, but in the context of everything else it does make you think about these sorts of things, you know?

Mors being neurodivergent, a thread:

As a young child, Mors didn’t like “waffles, vegetables, cereals, or other foods”. According to Thanatos, he would only eat green grapes specifically and eventually started trying out other foods when green grapes were put on them. Green grapes tend to have a consistent taste and texture, making them a fairly popular nd food. (KO Episode: What Now?)

Would play the “flying game” for hours on end as a child, much to the exasperation of others (The “flying game” involves the repetitive motion of flying around in circles, later changed to flying in a straight line from wall to wall.)

Continues to use flying as a grounding technique as an adult. (Tends to fly off and isolate himself for a bit after emotionally distressing situations.)

Has a tendency to move around a lot during conversation, most notably by circling people he’s talking to. (You could argue that this is just an MCRP thing to make watching the video more interesting or to add more expression and personality to the character, but Mors does this a lot more than the other characters.)

Oftentimes says things that others consider to be rude, and  he either doesn’t understand why others find it rude or doesn’t have enough emotional investment in the situation to care. (He does this a lot, but the biggest examples of this are the KO episodes Father’s Shadow and Empathy Training)

Overblown or Inappropriate emotional responses. The biggest examples would be his anger issues, but also him laughing at spirits’ deaths if he finds them ridiculous. (KO Episode: Father’s Shadow)

Honestly the entire Korina’s Origin episode of Father’s Shadow

Apparently has extremely keen hearing (KO Episode: Camp Oasis)

Instability in Relationships, Emotional Dysregulation and Anger Issues, Intrusive Thoughts, Impulsive Actions, etc...

As a young adult, Mors confides in Korina saying that he hates the monotony of Purgatory and that he can barely feel anything positive anymore. This has led him to performing high risk behaviors (such as sleeping around and hurting others) in a desperate attempt to feel anything. (KO Episode: I Don’t Forgive You)

Korina had a period of time where she believed that she shouldn’t be friends with Mors anymore due to the possibility of tarnishing his reputation. Mors responds to this by betting their friendship on a bottle of perfume that he gifted her. If she tried to get rid of it like she did with her other possessions, he would “know where she stood on their friendship” and got upset when she tried to return it to him. (KO Episode: Denied Love)

Intrusive thoughts, such as briefly wondering about burning his own bookshelf. (KO Episode: Abusive Love)

Impulsive actions. A lot. All the time. Every goddamn day. Impulse trips into the human world, trying to show off tricks mid-flight (one time ended with landing in the middle of a lake and getting completely soaked, the other ended with a broken wing), impulsively flying off to the village to pick a fight with an adult twice his size, trying to destroy the village on a whim, the list goes on.

Had a difficult relationship with his father, leading to a lot of mixed emotions including insecurities about never being able to live up to him. In Origins of Olympus, it leads to the belief that he is not even worthy enough to visit his father’s grave until he is avenged. (OoO Episode: In His Shadow) In Korina’s Origin, he also has insecurities about not being able to take over his father’s position and wants to figure out his purpose in life from the oracle itself. (KO Episodes: Father’s Shadow, Camp Counselor)

Feels nothing after killing someone, more distressed about not feeling anything in the aftermath than he is about the incident itself. (KO Episode: I Don’t Feel Anything)

Korina being neurodivergent, a thread:

Indulges in daydreaming and escapism a lot, such as when she created many long and complex stories involving her dolls and continued to play with them as a young adult.

Managed to create entire worlds in her dreamscape, some of which are actual places recreated entirely from memory, such as the lake. Some are created from scratch and based on the stories she made as a child.

Daydreams sometimes distract her to the point of dissociation, such as her daydream where Morpheus was actually an attentive father. (KO Episode: What If?)

While she doesn’t seem overly distressed by a sudden change in schedule, after Mors’ imprisonment, she uses her servant duties as a means to distract herself. These include simple and repetitive tasks such as cleaning dishes, dusting, sweeping, etc. (KO Episode: What Now?)

Oftentimes talks out loud to herself (Also probably just and MCRP thing but thought I’d add it in here)

Sometimes has difficulty understanding social cues and others’ intentions (Again, happens a lot but it’s quite prominent at the beginning of the KO Episode: Date?)

Korina herself is fairly straightforward and honest, sometimes to the point of bluntness, especially as a child.

A whole lot of Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD)

Believed that she would be kicked out/punished for breaking something as a kid (KO Episode: Just A Mistake)

When told that she could not be with Mors due to the other gods potentially ridiculing them for their difference in status, she goes into a downward spiral that lasts for several days.

After the party at Olympus where the gods said that she was wasting her life away by being a servant, she became insecure about only being able to do things like cook and clean and thought that she would be useless. It bordered on being a bit obsessive when she started pushing Thanatos away and began focusing on bettering her magic (as to not be “useless”) to the point of accidentally injuring herself. (KO Episodes: Nightmare, More Than A Servant)

Some links to DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for those who want to look into it a bit deeper

Autism | ADHD | BPD

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//Spoilers for today’s Korina’s Origin episode - The Truth

I FUCKING KNEW IT IT IS ASTERIA

Theorizing about Korina’s mother because yes (long post)

So, the mystery of who Korina’s mother is has been around since OoO and has yet to be solved at the time of writing this. It seems like we might get an answer this week (?) so I thought I’d throw all of my theorizing out in the open before the reveal.

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