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iceclew · 2 months ago

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Theories about my fav show on a lazy Saturday, well hello why yess??

But first things first, I'm HYPED for your OC!?! *throws half-eaten shawarma on the floor* *excited clapping* ヽ(๏ ∀๏ )ﾉ

I feel the struggle though... that's basically the reason I haven't made a proper kaiju OC yet... I just don't feel 100% comfortable with my concepts/designs… and I feel like I cannot properly grasp how I would do ”my take” on kaijus ‘cause there is a lot of open bits, you still can fill in with you’re own imagination, such as how do they look like and why. Where as your close-up char study on kn8 is a GREAT inspiration for kaiju ideas!! (°A°)/

I had some cat or dog like kaiju ideas as well, but it didn't really click for me, so I have no proper use for them. But when I think of cat-like kaijus I have a strong vibe for Matatabi which is a more feral attempt, and for a more humanoid version I'm quick to think of a kitsune like version, but I also kinda feel some Anubis like vibes as well, with more black body parts. the body part is indeed the tricky one, because I so fcking want to add clothing... probably the reason why I went with my first option and went with a feral (not necessary standing version). in addition I played around with diff. poses, cause since we're doing humanoid morphs, it's a good thing to stretch anatomy a bit to get a diff. style.. I feel like heads are easier to me (once again lol) and I am struggling with bodies as well..

Anyway here's some of my studies/try outs. 1st one is very reference based, I just wanted to get a feel for several poses/designs.

Oh, and I’d like to add my ideas/assumptions for Kaijus as well here. (oh yeah, peak English as always, for those you couldn’t have guessed lol)

where do kaijus come from? It’s still an unsolved question, and so the connection/fusion between kaiju and human is of course as well. So my theory starts at this point actually. *slaps whiteboard in the back* what is kaiju, my friends?!

the laws of physics are like a "don't know, don't care" situation, at least to some extent, since many of them fly (not the ones that fly like birds, I'm thinking of kn14), and besides, the attacks are not just bursts of energy, but for example streams of flying fish, water manipulation and so on..

which gets me to my next point, that is quite important when I think about design/concept: for now, I do not see any fixed regulations on what kaijus are made of or what they look like.. a big amount of them is “dragon skin”-like, with vital organs, ok.. But I feel like that’s not necessary the case for all of them. Examples: again KN14, Kn4’s wings, Maybe KN11 is more water-based/frog-like? xD, KN2 and KN8 having seemingly bone-like structures in the design, PLUS the yoju we saw right at the beginning of the series, that had an interesting stand-alone look with humanized face and fur parts, plus puppet like features to it (could be because the manga was very much at the beginning of the series, with a lot of things undecided yet, but still interesting to me) Then there's Bakku who is furry and very much looking like a real tiger. And last but not least there is KN15 that *could* be able to shapeshift (or it was an illusion, we don’t know that)

Short interlude, I head a moment of shock when I got back to the first red kaiju we see in the series, and realizing the scales and patterns resemble KN8 A FUCKING LOT???.. but again.. the dragonish-like style is sorta recurring ..f.ex. Kn2 has a very similar design as well..... nah..it's a long shot.. maybe just a wild guess even.. (also don’t mind me re-crying to first chp kafka and reno, because they are just . <3 ;_;)

BUT with all that said, I feel like there is still a pattern here? Like.. even if they do not all have all the same traids, miscellaneous things are popping up again and again. The skin, the scales, and also extra interesting to me - the spine and collarbone parts. And you know what I simply can’t wrap my head around just yet? Why is the combat suit looking like the KN8 design? The collarbone and the spine part? It is simply a meta design choice so Kafka would be a good pendant to Mina when in Kaiju form? probably?

So all this got me thinking - what if the kaijus original source is human based after all. Design and behavioral is based on cultural values, memories, inheritance, maybe actions... (maybe from individuals, but also larger groups, families, city’s population) → this would a.) explain regular reappearings from kaijus in special areas; b.) the phenomenon of kaijus to be more or less a problem solemnly in Japan (since the population could be bound to cultural premises)

I admit this is rather close to the JJK approach of curses, but I would think of it more like - humans influence their surroundings, areas the life in, and the kaijus are like an earth born answer to it…? And their designs/traids are probably influenced by it.

KN9 would be a creature that mastered altering these premisses by its will somehow, and Kafka might be one of the few humans that is not just subconsciously altering the kaiju’s form, but is also mixed into it. Therefore maybe kn8's body could have a big resemblance to Mina’s suit, since this is one of Kafkas deepest wishes, of what he would want to look like himself someday.

I would feel like there would be a lot of options for this constellation to work with greater time-spans as well... former carriers of ‘Tiny’ influenced the kaiju’s design/looks the ways you explained as well and now this is what came of it plus Kafka mixing in some combat suit ideas..without his knowing that is..

A bit of a Theory. {Kaiju Number 8}

So I've been spending some time sketching out this OC idea that I have and her whole thing is that she's like Kafka and is a half Kaiju. Her transformation is supposed to look like a mixture of Bakko (Mina's tiger) and Kaiju Number 8. I'm sitting here looking at the first take on the design and I'm hating it because it's just looking like a muscular Furry in a mask so I decide to add on some extra details to her Shoulders and Thighs/Waist to tie in the fact she's an offshoot of Kn8. As I'm turning design ideas in my head, I decide to have it take on a more samurai look as a sort of nod to the original host of the Kn8... bug? Dragonfly? Mini Kaiju? Progenitor? Progenitor. (From now on though, I'm just gonna use sonicsura's term for the thing and call it Tiny)

And I'm tossing the ideas around in my head and suddenly I'm thinking "Wait. Kafka doesn't have pauldrons in his design? And the Samurai does?" And now I'm wondering why that is? And the longer I'm thinking about it, now I'm wondering why he's wearing a suit in the first place?

(This is the only shot of the samurai that I can get off of Google images, apologies)

Now I can hear what you would be saying, "No shit he's wearing armor Zushi! He can't be caught by the public in that form, less they murder him on the spot!" I understand that is still very much the case and it's of course better to fight alongside a group of people when they aren't actively viewing you as a threat at the same time, so the armor in this case can help him blend into the crowd as he fights.

But hear me out for a second. Traditional samurai armor has a LOT of layers, and if they were wealthy enough (Which most were) they typically had a helper (Though, most were expected to have knowledge on how to put it on/take it off themselves) And I know we joke about Kafka's Kaiju form having a thick ass, but when paired with the idea of someone in that specific form, wouldn't it be difficult to don armor over an unusually shaped frame? Even if the armor was custom made and he had someone he trusted to help him put it on, I still think that the armor crafted would have a distinctly different look about it. So much so that I think that it would show up in history book, wouldn't it? You can't tell me that there wouldn't be a chapter dedicated to an oddly shaped samurai in and around the Meireki era that had notable displays of super strength and agility. He fought to help humans in their endeavor to protect humanity from the kaiju, he had to, at some point, do something crazy and superhuman considering we are just now seeing what that samurai went up against thanks to the latest chapter.

This is where most of my theory is. Kafka's Kaiju form didn't always look like that. My theory is that not only does Tiny function as a biological version of a Numbers suit, something happens at the point of the user's death and it absorbs whatever the user is wearing at that moment and recycles the fit onto the next user. I'm starting to think that in the first iteration of the human Kaiju form, it looked a lot different than what we have now. I'm leaning towards it looking something similar to the Colossal Titan from AoT.

No natural armor, just exposed, heightened muscle. That way, having the samurai armor makes more sense because now he has protection. Now he won't get injured as much as he taps into his super powers and can still move around easily AND blend in with the rest of the soldiers.

While we can't confirm for sure if the samurai is the only iteration of Kaiju Number 8, I'm going to again lean on the Numbers suit comparison and say that Kafka can only see the samurai due to 1) Tiny can sense what they're about to go up against and the Samurai is the most knowledgeable on the subject. Or it's most likely 2) The samurai is the most recent user and it has the easiest time coming to the forefront of Kafka's psyche. It should also be said that it's not said one way or the other whether or not Kaiju number 8, or more specifically Tiny, existed before Number 9's time, only that 8 really hates 9. I do want to point out something that I've noticed from the Kikoru verses 15 fight where she starts seeing her mother, that her mother is also wearing the Numbers suit. Which, I mean, sounds like another No Shit Sherlock situation, but I think it adds something interesting to the lore behind the suits

The suits can still "see" their wearer, even as a suit. While 10 is the only suit that can talk back, the others can, in a sense, invade the wearer's mind (Since the suits don't come with visors) and project an image of the previous wearer's actions, even down to what they were wearing at the time. Which, of course, makes sense because how could they if the suit isn't active any other time. Which brings me to my next question, "What if whatever Tiny is can do more than that?" If it already fundamentally changes the user into a Kaiju, core and all, who's to say it can't also absorb what they're wearing at the time?

And if that IS the case, why doesn't Kafka's Kaiju form look more like a samurai suit of armor instead of the glowing six pack that we get? Here's my ongoing thought. Let's assume for a second that the placement of the core doesn't change from User to User, since the placement of Kafka's core is centered around his heart (Thank you for the breakdown kujoestars). It can be confirmed via logic that the previous samurai is dead, but lets play with the how.

To kill a Kaiju, you hit its core, so to kill a Human shifting Kaiju, you hit its chest. What if the samurai got hit in the chest so hard, he not only died from it, it destroyed his chest plate. So when he died, the only thing that ended up getting absorbed at time of death was his helmet, his face mask, and his pants, leaving his chest open in the next iteration and thus revealing the glowing six pack we've come to love! (And some of us hate, but we ignore them because we don't care, it's glow-in-the-dark abs.)

I don't know about you, but I feel better having said this. Even if I'm going to be called crazy and be debunked seven ways from Sunday. And I'm also aware that this might not be the easiest to follow along, but all this is coming from some half formed thoughts that I had at the tail end of my work day, so excuse the shitty frame work.

(Bonus thought. If this is the case and Kafka dies (IN THE DISTANT FUTURE) he's probably more than likely going to be wearing the defense force suit. If the next reincarnation on n8 puts on a defense force suit (and we're assuming they're going to be even more technologically advanced at this point) what would happen? Would it still read a 0%, or would it give an Error 404 code and say something like "It is not advisable to wear one suit over the other" "Uuuhhh... they're not wearing another suit..." "Huh, that's weird, don't know why THAT could be happening. *Sweating bullets*"

#kaiju no 8 #kn8 #kaiju no.8 #kaiju mega post #kaiju conspiracy theory #brought to you by bored Ice #also some practice sketches #if some of the poses refs help feel free to use them guys #well great now I feel like I want to read into it to much :D

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