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So Jaime and I wanted to make something cute for @dracoplato for the holidays, in thanks for the kind support DracoPlato has shown us for Kindred Sun :3 It’s very much appreciated! <3 The picture is of Damon, a character from DracoPlato’s webcomic Zenchav- you can (and should) read it here!
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February 28th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on February 28th, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PST. The chat focused on Zenchav by Draco Plato.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Zenchav by Draco Plato~! (http://khyatix.com/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
Draco Plato
hmmmm
flips through chapters quickly
RebelVampire
just say all the scenes cause as the creator its the one time you can get away with it XD
Draco Plato
I'm sure I have a favorite
shiz everything exists on a neutral plan of emotion
RebelVampire
for my favorite scene im gonna pick that time everyone was pursued by spiky chia pets and oziel and ara argued to the point damian snapped his finger at them and told them to focus.
Draco Plato
I was leaning towards that myself too
RebelVampire
damian did what we all wanted to do deep down in that moment
Draco Plato
yeeeeeah
I love the finger snap
I always enjoy drawing the damon and lyall scenes the most
I like chapter 14 but I think it was a bit hurried seeming overall.
I picked up the pace for webcomic time but I think I should have slowed it down a bit there
that was my favorite chapter to draw recently tho cause damon and lyall
Kabocha
I think... My favorite scene is a toss up. I really liked Nadia and Damon's meeting -- Damon's priorities are basically mine: "OOO SPARKLY" http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume1/ZenchavVolume1#p=98 But I also really liked how crushed Damon was when he burnt up Liberty's body. http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume3/ZenchavVolume3#p=157 Can't do anything else? Well, at least I can make sure nobody asks too many questions right~?
Draco Plato
aaaaaaaaaaaaah
I have so many mixed feelings about damon burning his daughter's body
like was that a GOOD decision? it's so morbid
I always get a laugh out of that
Kabocha
It felt pretty emotional
and yessss
I really like the first volume a lot, to be honest. The art in it has a lot of character which helps the black and white pop
Draco Plato
yeah I agree! Whenever I re-read it I think the early chapters actually have a lot of charm to them
I used to be really bothered by the flaws but that doesn't really bother me now
Kabocha
Yeah They're cute! And... Damon was... very angsty in volume 2's start
Draco Plato
hahah his brief gangster look
RebelVampire
it was nice to see damon grow up from an innocent boy into angst rage machine into hi everyone im stay at home dad who makes jam
Kabocha
it is pretty fun when you get very... uh... ...I don't know the term but when you pull the expressions pretty far and make them somewhat more cartoony
Draco Plato
yeah! I agree. I think I pushed limits a bit more in the earlier chapters. Honestly I think my disdain for drawing shines through too much now
I mean, it all looks great, lmao
Kabocha
"Oh, I like it when you touch me" -- Sayeth Lyall, volume 2, page 12
Draco Plato
Aaaaaaaaaaah, I feel so awkward about those early scenes
where lyall's feelings start shining through
Kabocha
Lyall honestly just needs anyone's affection
RebelVampire
another scene i like is http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume3/ZenchavVolume3#p=42 where damon and lyall are flirting sort of and rex just shows hes watching and hes very bored. i think it was a great way to bring rex back in while also paying off on all that tension buildup of him coming back.
Draco Plato
he just needs damon's affection
Kabocha
...Damon's hair is also kinda kelpie-ish, so I meaaaaaaaan
Draco Plato
yeah I liked that scene too!! and that's true, I hadn't thought he looked a bit like kelpie there
I'm kinda with what Dark said about wtf is going on with his hair in chapter 5
like yep, that's why it lasted a very short time that look
oh i remember my fave scene now
Kabocha
What did Dark say?
Draco Plato
i need to find it
she wasn't a fan of the chapter 5 damon hair, which I agree with since I'm not a fan of it either
Kabocha
I don't dislike it, he just seems very... ...high stress right now
RebelVampire
i like to think damon's early life is characterized by phases. you got the angst phase, the emo phase, the cute kid phase, the weird flirt with your uncle phase
Kabocha
all business, no play
Draco Plato
there it is, the scene that always haunts me in re reads
oh that's true Rebel, it very much is
Kabocha
cough There's inappropriate jokes that one could make about coming in handy
But I'm not going to make them tonight
Draco Plato
I just...that line in retrospect is so BAD
Kabocha
But it's Lyall~
Draco Plato
i think that's the only time he really had pedo bear vibes
maybe not the only but the biggest
Kabocha
http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume2/ZenchavVolume2#p=38 This page, Lyall's like... "This woman's going to kill me, Damon, and everyone in this neighborhood"
Draco Plato
there's also that time
Kabocha
What does Nadia do, anyway? Is she actually a mob boss? I know she's gonna be different in the upcoming video, but... >:D
Draco Plato
Lyall thinking she's a homewrecker there ruining his chance at future happiness as Damon's husbando
Yeah she's the head of her mafia
her backstory is actually the same as the animated version but without the interference
https://youtu.be/gGdGFtwCNBE
that's my song for lyall in chapter five
Kabocha
"I feel like I've known her" -- "Oh, yeah, last time around, she tried to kill you a buncha times, and I heard she's gonna do it again."
Draco Plato
wheeeeezes
Kabocha
"Also, she's your sister. Or will be. Different lives and all."
Draco Plato
It just gets worse
#TrueLove
Kabocha
I wonder what their entanglements were like in previous lives >:D
RebelVampire
you know what other scene i like? this scene http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume2/ZenchavVolume2#p=48 where lyall tells damon he didnt love liberty. partly cause it was cute seeing damon be this angsty adult and get hit with the reality stick in such a way hes still little boy shocked that this is a thing that could happen. and it was also nice cause lyall revealed something in an angry outburst and thus one more truth was added to the truth pile
Draco Plato
i really should have made a chart for Nadia's lives, the main one I know that has her and Damon together before that life is when she was Lili's sister
Oh Oh I like that scene too!!
Kabocha
I would be interested in seeing Lili's sister
and aaaaaaaaaaaaa, yes. Lyall: Truth teller in bad situations
Draco Plato
I can always feel a mini heart attack when Lyall says he didn't love her
cause I know how much that hurts damon
Kabocha
"you made my mother a whore and you didn't even CARE?"
Draco Plato
Lili's sister doesn't have much to her, she married Muir at the same time as Lili but ended up leaving and letting Lili and Muir be alone
Damon was too pure then, lol(edited)
he was really hung up on the sleeping with his mom thing for a long time
Kabocha
I can't blame him, especially if he thought it was gonna damn Liberty to hell
but nope, just ends up with her coming back one day as a cute smol girl
Also... Lyall has no last name. JUST TAKE DAMON'S! nau
Where did the nickname Sha come from by the way?
Draco Plato
actually why didn't he take Liberty's last name
Oh!!! Lol nobody has ever asked before
She wanted to call him a shark but he lacks the bite so she dropped the k
looking back on this nickname it doesn't make much sense lmao
I think it originates from an earlier version that made more sense
RebelVampire
i like to think that lyall not taking a last name was his way of rejecting the permanence of their situation. but also not having a last name sounds helpful when in the mob. "Hey Joe you gonna kill that Lyall fellow we were ordered to kill?" "Which Lyall?" "I don't know man. Let's just pick one."
Draco Plato
truuuuue
altho how common a name is Lyall
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
"but joe theres like 20 other lyalls" "just kill them all"
Draco Plato
LOL
omg XD
Kabocha
It soon became the great Lyall purge of 1930
Draco Plato
Lyall: I don't have a last name because I'm waiting to marry you and take yours
Kabocha
Lyall probably used that pickup line a few times
"I don't have a last name, but why don't I borrow yours for the night~?"
Draco Plato
ffffft
sadly i don't think that's one he'd use since it's rather personal to him
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
also i'm not sure what y favorite scene is theres a lot of them lol
Draco Plato
it's okay, my mind went blank too
and I should know all the scenes
Kabocha
pick a volume, flip through, find your favorite
Draco Plato
i know cali's fave
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
which one
LMAO
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. As shown in the comic, Apus has been going on quite a recruiting spree. How do you think Damian will adjust to his new life situation, especially after what happened? How will Damian deal with Damon joining the Demon Council? What do you think the story is with Firosofi and Euripides? Will they adjust to their life there and will the others adjust to them? Will recruiting Draco go smoothly, or will matters be complicated because of Draco’s situation with B.I.T.E.? What do you think is up with Earth suddenly recruiting so many demons and non-humans all at once? Lastly, do you think Amai will learn to do field work, and how might it change her?
Draco Plato
i'mma delete that one for gore tho
Kabocha
Damian's going to angst a lot when he finds out his dad's on the Demon council. And then be like "MY FATHER BETRAYED US" And worry a lot. And continue to be grumpy until he becomes older Damian.
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
i feel like damian will go crazy and become numb to all the weirdness
and then take wizard drugs
become damon
Kabocha
But also they're just gonna ship him off to the future to hang out with his dad, soooo
Draco Plato
i feel like these questions would have been good for me to ponder before writing
OoO spoils Damian's immediate future, lolol
Kabocha
Ooop, Damian, you're gonna sleep with that hot bird-brained nurse~
Draco Plato
why is the Earth recruiting all these people, I just figured apus was understaffed
aaaaaah that spoiler!!!
their romance took a flight
Kabocha
It definitely did... You could say their hearts fluttered like little wings
Draco Plato
Vivi was born from a little egg
not that it's relevant but it's cute
RebelVampire
i like to think Earth just felt like it. was bored and said "you know what would be funny? is if i put all these demons at apus and force the people i 'hired' to get along with them. this sounds like a fun social experiment."
Draco Plato
I mean I feel that's about as hard as she thought about it
but now I feel I should think of a good reason and make it seem like I had something deep behind it
Kabocha
Vivi was born from an egg, eh? :3
I'm kind of curious now
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
plot twist, apus is just earth's ant farm but with people and demons
Draco Plato
yuuuuuus
omg XD
anytime someone mentions an antfarm I remember the one my bro had, where all the ants came dead except one and that one ant worked hard to bury all the other ants(edited)
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
rip ant
burying it's brethren
Draco Plato
antfarms are SAD
just burying all your dead kin
symbolically damon will be the ant
and we'll pretend this was a metaphor
Kabocha
Apus as an ant farm? I guess The Earth hasn't changed. She's just gonna try to burn it next time Damon shows up
Draco Plato
nah tho, Apus is meant to protect the earth
probably
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
maybe
we just dont know
Draco Plato
but she allows the demon council too
and is an aid to rex
so the earth plays both teams
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
news reporter interviews the earth "Miss earth? why did you create apus?" "lol idk i just wanted to"
RebelVampire
ya know consider earth talks to both sides, its more like these are her little play soldiers and she got more from the store so she could have an epic battle.
Kabocha
Cadence got her planet in the end
Draco Plato
baaaasically
her being the earth is totally karma for having made a planet
and not being it's planet seed
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
i just imagined like a fight going on and someone jumping at someone
but in realityits just earth throwing one of her play soldiers at another one
Kabocha
She doesn't seem to hate it at least. She's probably like, "heh, I'll show you whose Karma fucked them up"
Draco Plato
muahahaha
I think the rational was that she wanted to see which side would win out
the planet itself is neither good nor evil, a neutral party
if a planet becomes totally good or totally evil it will end
because it must exist within duality
so that makes me think her ultimate goal would be to make it either totally good or totally evil so that it can die
since that would be freedom in a sense for her soul
Yes, beautiful, perfect earth
she don't care which time wins, just so long as someone does
Kabocha
YEP
she finally got it
a shame Samantha couldn't think big tho
Draco Plato
so much of Soul Hymn is still in the air tbh, especially with Sam
Kabocha
unless she's working with Decebal...
Draco Plato
cause I thought it'd be fun to make her more of an important baddie
Kabocha
"Yeah, I'll let you be the planet seed if you help me out*
Draco Plato
fffffft, being a planet seed is the last thing she wants
Kabocha
Sam wasn't really listening, she heard "You get a planet"
Draco Plato
it may be fun if sam is an antagonist to both erik and decebal
since if she regains her powers she'd be quite a formidable foe
RebelVampire
maybe lets bring the topic back to zenchav at this point XD
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
"you get a planet and you get a planet"
Draco Plato
Decebal becomes Oprah
Damian will not be pleased Damon joined the DC
nope
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
but hey he gets to spend time with his daddy
i guess
Draco Plato
I actually don't know if they'll ever meet face to face during that time tho
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
O_O
damon and rex i mean
lmao
Draco Plato
LOL
Damon is so happy about that, yeeeeah
RebelVampire
my question implied damian adjusts at all. which i would argue damian doesnt adjust to anything. just sits in eternal grump land.
hey
damon got new clothes already
id say thats a great dad
Draco Plato
LOL you make an excellent point Rebel
but they're not blue see, they have to be blue, so he's sad
Kabocha
Question: Will we get to see Mr. Philosophy get a sword
Draco Plato
Yes!
Kabocha
YES
Draco Plato
Firo has two swords
RebelVampire
i think Amai will be fine with field work cause firo can do all the heavy lifting metaphorically speaking. or ya know he could sip tea and wave at her from afar
Draco Plato
Firo actually can't kill anyone because it would be too kind a death for them
Kabocha
Then he gets to be mad at Dakin and Amai all the time :3
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
one to put jam on his toast and the other to poke things
Draco Plato
this is true, firo will do way more heavy lifting than Amai
buuuuut Amai will probably have plant powers like Dakin
which wasn't in the story originally so tentatively she'll be a bit more bad ass when she awakens to that
firo doesn't get mad
RebelVampire
by that implication amai doesnt know she has the plant powers?
Draco Plato
if firo gets mad that's gotta be something really really bad
nah Amai thinks she has no powers atm
she's been very sheltered
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
would he get mad if someone cut him off on the freeway
Kabocha
bwahahahaha
Draco Plato
No O_O
Kabocha
WHAT
he is inhuman!
Draco Plato
He got mad once as a kid tho
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
say if it isnt so
Draco Plato
kid cut off his ponytail
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
off with his head
Draco Plato
yus O_O you don't touch Firo's hair
but he probably wouldn't get mad at that now
but there is a time when he will get mad
maybe more than one
Kabocha
He didn't even get mad when his life was threatened, so
I mean
he's a pretty chill dude
RebelVampire
will it be at damon for damon being a little rex puppet murderer?
Kabocha
I almost wrote "Chill dad" and then I was like
"naaaaaaaaaah"
Draco Plato
oh firo having his life threatened was like a tuesday, no biggie
nah he won't get mad at damon
EveryoneLovesDamon
RebelVampire
Firo: I'm not mad at you, Damon. Just disappointed.
Draco Plato
YES!
that'll happen
Damon: But I looooove him father
/shot
RebelVampire
damon goes home and rex tells him the same thing, that hes not mad, just disappointed. only then rex kills some kid or something.
Draco Plato
Rex just makes Damon's wounds heal slower
when he's mad at him
RebelVampire
you know
thats a lot more tame then i realistically expected
good on rex
Kabocha
sorry, I got distracted reading OoO again
Poor Damian
Draco Plato
yeah, damon is the fave
RebelVampire
slightly less of a jackass than he couldve been
Draco Plato
ffffft, that's a good reason to get distracted, lol
Rex to damon's other siblings is pretty swift to kill
so they have to tip toe a lot more
I think Damian is pretty lucky
got to go to school in the future, meet all those kooky people
damian at apus is interesting tho since there's more reasons than just damon at the DC he's sour about
RebelVampire
on the otherhand, he got to go to school and meet all those kooky people and deal with a huge jump in technology and his dad being a wizard. it may perhaps contribute to the grump.
you mean like liberty being dead O_O
Draco Plato
nervous laughter
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
shes fine
its just jam
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. In recent events, Damon has been forced by his father to join the Demon Council. What activities do you think Damon will be doing for the Demon Council? Will Damon manage to fit in there, or will he stick out too much? Will he at least be able to get along with his new sister Theia? As time passes, do you think Damon will come to agree with Rex’s ideals? Or, do you think he’ll stay steadfast in his own beliefs? Do you think Damon will find out Damian is alive and with Apus? How might this change his actions in the future? Also, how might his relationship with Lyall change him? Do you think Rex will keep his promise of not hurting Lyall? Finally, will Damon reconnect with Purusha’s life to escape the darkness?
Kabocha
wait, I'm mis-remembering things... Who is Dakin's dad XD
Draco Plato
Firosofi
Amai is his mom
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
firosofi more like
Draco Plato
sorta
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
firosofty
Draco Plato
it's complicated
wheeps
was so surprised when there was a Firo in Baccano
https://tenor.com/view/firo-playing-baccano-gif-11864371
RebelVampire
#spoilers
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
i think rex will make damon think hes gonna make him do really bad stuff, but he just makes him sit down and play chess all day
Draco Plato
Rex: Damon, I want you to be the greatest chess master to ever live. Damon: Father....I hate to break it to you but that's never going to happen, I'm an idiot.
damon can probably play chess
RebelVampire
maybe damon will get super good at chess cause chess is half just about remembering the patterns and knowing the best move for each pattern.
and damon can make little dresses for the chess pieces
Draco Plato
ffffft
Kabocha
Lyall would make very pretty chess pieces
Draco Plato
Lyall is very good at chess
Kabocha
Damon would make them regal clothing, befitting their stations in life
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
rex walks in sees his chess set all mangled with pretty dresses
Draco Plato
damon says plz he's not that much of a loser
weeps
I think Damon's ideals already died long ago
he mostly just wants to not die and not have Lyall die
probably
Kabocha
he'll get better one day
Draco Plato
when he goes insane
What will damon be doing at the DC ponders
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
eat donuts
Draco Plato
a mystery
RebelVampire
hes gonna make up for lost time. go on fishing trips with rex. fight over a stuffed animal with theia, etc. etc.
Draco Plato
Damon can't taste donuts tho
€heshire777
Nggh, I missed it
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
plot twist DC means donut council
Draco Plato
omg XD
€heshire777
Oops
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
yer right on time cheshire
Draco Plato
oh yeah, him and Theia will wrestle all right
RebelVampire
we still have an hour left to go
€heshire777
Too bad I didn't read all of it...
Draco Plato
that's okay~!
it is 400 something pages
€heshire777
I usally do tho
Ah well
Draco Plato
no worries~
Kabocha
Well, that's fine Cheshire! You can chime in about what you did read
or are you just here to talk about how much you didn't?
€heshire777
I'll talk! I confess!
Kabocha
https://giphy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-excellent-mr-burns-8fen5LSZcHQ5O
So, I think it'll be interesting going forward, to see what happens more with Firo and his buddies -- mostly because I read the original draft once upon a time, and Amai is very dear to me. XD I wanna see her do more stuff! Yell at her mom! Ask Pavonis why he's such a stick in the mud
RebelVampire
its also fine to just live read and comment your feelings as you read, @€heshire777 ~!
Draco Plato
awwww, I'll make sure to put her in more knowing that ;3;
Kabocha
So uh, is Pavo's original... backstory... still valid
Draco Plato
yus I think so
Kabocha
wherein he was so in love with Earth and...
cackle
RebelVampire
you cant just ask pavo why he's a stick in the mud. mostly because i expect itll wind up like that time he tried to explain apus to damian and damian was just like "whaaaaat"
Draco Plato
he lived in ancient greece sometime
LOL
Pavonis: You know what, you're clearly not going to get this, go see the nurse
Kabocha
Pavonis has no middle ground either. Either he's with Earth and Apus, or he's a demon, helping Rex commit atrocities.
Draco Plato
pavonis has a really really thin line between good and evil
pavonis would be evil for the earth
he wouldn't second guess it
Kabocha
http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Specials/ZenchavSpecials#p=64 I see you, Sotiris (http://khyatix.com/world <- see the dark reddish brown-life)
Draco Plato
loooooool
i really like that special
and it's plot based too
but sotiris looks like a freakin chef there
I keep wanting to do more with Minos, now that they're at the DC I'm hoping I can have him show up
RebelVampire
i do think thats the best of the specials. just cause it was nice to see lyall before he became a bitter old house wife who was jilted by rex.
yes
do that
cause with this special in mind i want to see minos and lyall interact
Kabocha
Yeah! I wanna see what's happened to Minos -- Rex didn't kill him for that but I do wonder what he'd have done to him
RebelVampire
cause for lyall its been eons, for minos probably not that many eons
Draco Plato
yeah!! it actually hasn't been that long for Minos since lyall was pregnant with rex's kids
before then Lyall and Minos used to whore around together
Kabocha
Rex disappears for a few minutes, comes back with Lyall and an extremely scarred Damon
Draco Plato
i mean they never slept with each other but they'd pick up women together
YEP
It's actually probably been a few years since Theia got there
but between rex dropping lyall off and picking damon up that's probably a few days at the DC
if Rex bothered to wait, which I think he did cause he changed his clothes
but in one of my stories that may just be an hour later
Kabocha
Rex goes to get some tea
remembers, "Oh yeah, I should pick up Lyall."
Draco Plato
and change my clothes while I'm at it :>
/shot
that's just damon tho
probably
altho rex is pretty fashionable
Kabocha
Hehehe
So anyway, there's reincarnations, time travel shenanigans, and lots and lots of suffering for Damon.
RebelVampire
the changing clothes is just part of their genes. encoded on their dna.
Kabocha
And we're just getting started
Draco Plato
Lyall can do that
he often makes clothes with his powers
since he can make any organic material so he makes it soft like fabric
RebelVampire
maybe its a rule in the DC. no outfit is allowed to be worn for over 3 hours.
Draco Plato
nah, that's the rule in OoO
7 times damon?!?
if it's a joke nobody will blame the creator for clothing ADD
RebelVampire
i wonder if therell be a love triangle between damon, lyall, and minos.
Kabocha
Oh my
Draco Plato
Oh nooooooo
minos is an asshole so probably not
amongst other reasons
but alternatively will sotiris and theia ever have a thing
Kabocha
https://giphy.com/gifs/jaw-drop-oooooh-6FymBmqKeBrl6
Draco Plato
I honestly don't know atm
RebelVampire
well theyd at least be a sexy pairing
and lyall could make "hey stop touching my daughter maybe" faces
Kabocha
Having read Out of Order, I kind of can't wait to find out about how Damon and Claire meet in this life. I've heard rumors that it is ... bordering on "not good"
Draco Plato
oooooooh, it's fun!
I really like randolph and claire at apus
they were actually with each other longer than they were with damon
not as a couple of course
and Damian is older than both of them, lolol
well maybe not randolph, i dunno, it's a toss up
RebelVampire
one day after many people die, damian will sit there going "wait a second im the older person here"
Kabocha
Randolph and Claire were a duo?
Draco Plato
oh gawd no
but they both worked at Apus together
Claire was raised there from age 13 and Randolph took care of security
Randolph had his own room that he stayed in almost exclusively but people have to visit him cause he's the techno master
uh room being where all his security systems are
claire was a field worker though
so basically claire and damian would visit him and bicker
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. An ominous tone seems to be setting in on the future. What do you think Pavonis meant in saying that Firosofi’s arrival signaled “certain things were set into motion?” Does it have something to do with the declaration of war that Oziel claimed recruiting Damian would be? Is it something else entirely that has more to do with Firosofi, Damon, or someone else? Of the characters we’ve met, who in Apus and who in the Demon Council do you think will clash first? What do you think will happen? Overall, do you think the conflicts between Apus and the Demon Council will ever be solved? As a last bonus, what time periods do you think we’ll see in the comic considering it involves time travel?
Kabocha
Firosofi's going to take over the story soon, and we're gonna see him go face down his destiny... And reclaim his last name...
X
..................No?
RebelVampire
wait wait
this is why lyall didnt have a last name
theyre going on the quest together
Kabocha
Firosofi X and Lyall WHY
Draco Plato
fffffffffft
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
and something Z
Draco Plato
will they ever even meet
who knows
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
o wait zenchav
Draco Plato
muahahah
what time periods would people want to see
Kabocha
There we go. The mysteries of the plot, explained.
Draco Plato
i have some up in the air atm
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
cavemen
Draco Plato
LOL
dies
Kabocha
I'd honestly like to see some mid-2000s Damon. Baggy jeans, Anime hair... Debating who's better: Trunks or Vegeta
Draco Plato
That we will see!!
already in there
Kabocha
(It's totally Trunks, by the way.)
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
damon: ugga ugg lyall: ugga ugga damon: ugh >_>
€heshire777
Steampunk Damon
Draco Plato
I do love trunks but i love vegeta too
steampunk would be pretty awesome
I think I can do that
Kabocha
Damon WOULD go for a Steampunk aesthetic
Draco Plato
he totally would
He's going to have a hell of a motorcycle collection, lol
Kabocha
Next world they go to in OoO will be a steampunk world, totally
Draco Plato
Claire's original clothing aesthetic was supposed to be steampunk too
but it looked too out of place
that'd be good for OoO tho, i'll think about it for that
cause I have it kind of wide open atm for where it's going
oh I know where i can fit steampunk into Zen
muahahah
€heshire777
Goth
RebelVampire
i cant think of a good time period so im just gonna go with ancient egypt. where someone can sneak into a tomb and write a message in the hopes it confuses the heck out of future archaeologists
Draco Plato
goth will be in the animated version!
ancient egypt would be interesting, I hadn't considered that
i remember an older version I had them live in ancient persia for awhile
Kabocha
YES
Ancient Persia would be awesome!
€heshire777
Chinese?
Kabocha
Some of the clothing they have in pseudo-historical Bollywood films... it's so pretty
Draco Plato
Chinese would be good too!! I was just appreciating their clothing the other day
true!!!
Damon will go to india at one point
Kabocha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7K4vGYL9zI Allow me to share this song with you
Draco Plato
!!!! I LOVE THAT SONG
that actor does such a good job in that movie too
RebelVampire
thats good damon gets to go to india. i think it will suit him ;3;
€heshire777
Caveman?
Kabocha
It also fits the overall reincarnation theme, too, I think
Draco Plato
cavemen would be so weird XD
€heshire777
I like weird
RebelVampire
if lyall went with him, cavemen would murder him cause thats 0 tech zone
Draco Plato
oh yeah, that's right Firo is from India too
Lyall says that sounds like where Rex would send him
€heshire777
Ok, and lost you again...
Kabocha
Firosofi's one of the recently introduced characters -- he's more clearly introduced here: http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume3/ZenchavVolume3#p=63
€heshire777
That's just about where I'm at
Draco Plato
oh yeah~!
he's also Haranasa
€heshire777
If you say so...
Kabocha
Well, Draco would be the one to say so... as the creator
RebelVampire
are we going to get to see oziel more? i need more oziel spunk in my life.
Kabocha
http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume3/ZenchavVolume3#p=80
Draco Plato
coughs I'm honestly not sure what Oziel's future is in the story atm
but I can add him more if you want
I know some other people liked him too
ah both names at once there, lolol
€heshire777
Who was that again? (edited)
RebelVampire
more i just think theres potential between him and damian. cause of the whole ya know, you got my sister murdered
Draco Plato
that fellow is oziel
€heshire777
ah
He's cool
Draco Plato
yeah I agree Rebel, I've been thinking that should be explored more too
I always like Oziel's hair
Kabocha
I like Ara better
Draco Plato
fun fact he was in a wheelchair for a portion of his life
Kabocha
and I wanna know what the fuck Ara did to get his future lives the way he did XD
Draco Plato
LOL
Kabocha
(But this... is not... in Zenchav yet... I'm speaking partly about stuff that I know that is... spoilers...)
OK Draco, Draco
Draco Plato
Ara ara ara, ahahah
Kabocha
if you could pick one character that's not Damon to make super sparkly
who would you choose
Draco Plato
Firo~
€heshire777
Atlantis would be cool
Draco Plato
Firo was originally the main
Atlantis is a great idea
yeah I can use atlantis
Kabocha
atlantis would be cool
€heshire777
I'll just keep suggesting stuff as long as you'll let me
Moon base
Draco Plato
loooooool, would be too sailor moon
Kabocha
DRACO I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE SO MUCH COOL STUFF
Draco Plato
awwwwww ;3;
I really want more firo now
I never get to draw him
but i'll be in the most recent chapter
€heshire777
Norse?
Viking era?
Draco Plato
That's a good idea too, I could do that
I used to love Norse mythology
altho marvel kinda eeeeehed me a bit to it
even tho i like marvel
€heshire777
Yeah. same
Marvel nut
Draco Plato
me too
well....I haven't read all the comics
cause there's ALOT
€heshire777
Oop, cell service
Bye
RebelVampire
i was just about say draco, youre gonna be stuck drawing firo for quite a while now in this upcoming arc.
XD
Draco Plato
laters, Cheshire :3
Not as much as I'd like cause he mostly stands in the BG
which means I'll cut him out of panels a lot for drawing time
buuuut I think the chapter after he really stands out
and tbf shading his hair sucks so much
RebelVampire
this almost sounds creepy. draco and amai talking in the forefront, firo just in the background of the shot smiling at the reader all the time, as if to say i see you.
Draco Plato
that'd be so in character for Firo XD
this is why he can't be the MC
actually I think most of it is Draco talking to his peeps tho
buuuuuut
I dunno maybe I'll add in more firo
cause him just standing there in the BG of chapter 13 was kinda lame too
RebelVampire
maybe he and draco can at least share a warm hug
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
i wanna see them hug
:y
Draco Plato
>w> well that will probably happen
draco can leap onto him in a bear hug
Kabocha
Hugs for everyone!
RebelVampire
i cannot picture this bear hug. although i can picture euri and amai being like wtf
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July 13th-July 19th, 2019 Creator Babble Archive
The archive for the Creator Babble chat that occurred from July 13th, 2019 to July 19th, 2019. The chat focused on the following question:
What has been the biggest struggle writing wise for your comic’s story? What have you been doing to overcome it?
Draco Plato (KhyatiX)
I have a hard time writing antagonists and fight scenes~
but like a shooting star, if I catch the right moment I'll get through it
spacerocketbunny
Hi I make Ghost Junk Sickness http://ghostjunksickness.com/ ! what I struggle with is sorting scenes out, making sure things are properly paced and that character motives are in check and make sense to each of them. A delivery can really fall flat if the pacing and motives just don't check out. To combat that I go back and forth with my co-author with drafts until we figure it out. if there's too many additions and notes on the thumbnails then it's time to redraft it!
Attila Polyák
I have two main problems, but one is definitely a bigger issue than the other: My probably biggest struggles is the fact that my comic, Tales of Midgard https://talesofmidgard.com/, wasn't planned to be short. During the initial planning phase of the story a very different pace was planned compared to the pace that now actually happens, as a matter of fact the current updates come at about 1/7th the speed of the "plan version". This coupled with the fact that it's a long story to begin with basically means that it's very likely the story will never reach it's ultimate conclusion... This situation is worsened by the fact that the most recent written page is roughly 700 pages ahead of the most recent drawn page, so redoing the story to cut stuff down, and speeding up the rest would mean throwing about 3 years of work out the window. I don't really have an actual solution for this problem unfortunately, so all suggestions are welcome. However the way I wrote my story has a small out: There are 4 major arcs to it, and the ending of each of these arcs is a potential endpoint to the story, so technically cutting the last 3 parts would somewhat help, except that's not the entirety of the story I'd wish to tell...
AntiBunny
As a writer, I've always had issues getting through the middle of something. I know where an arc should begin and where it should end. Getting from point A to point B is somewhat tricky. Basically the act 2 of any 3 act structure is the hardest part to write for me.
kayotics
I think my biggest struggle with writing Ingress Adventuring Company https://www.ingress-comic.com/ is that I don't have a clear 'middle' and a pretty vague 'end' for where i want the comic to go. I planned writing the story episodically, which helped in the beginning since I knew I wanted to start a comic, but is tripping me up now that I've got a plot started, since I'm not exactly sure where certain story beats will go. But, the fun thing about that is it keeps me engaged with the comic as I go, which I could see becoming a drag if I had it all planned out in the beginning.
Desnik
My biggest struggle with http://ask-a-warlock.tumblr.com/ has been figuring out how to transition between scenes in a way that makes sense. I wrote the first version in 2 drafts, and I'm working ona second, more improved version...on draft 4 now
Mharz
For The Angel with Black Wings http://blackwings.mharz.com/ and CHAMPS http://champs.mharz.com/ pretty much every aspect of writing is a struggle. jk. In all seriousness tho, my struggle is usually writing the plot in detail. I have like rough patches of what will happen to the story in my head but putting them together where the flow will be smooth and makes sense is the tough part. I'd be the first one to admit that I'm not the best writer out there. I'm not those type of people who can spout 50,000 words of story in a short amount of time. Most of the time, my mind is just blank of plot-related things so I'm usually really slow in the writing part which takes literally months. Somehow, I manage to make things work and create a story that some people read, enjoy, relate and theorize. When something sparked in my mind, I can get in the zone and write a chapter tho that does not happen often as I wish. CHAMPS actually has an additional challenge of how I should balance the fights and their lives outside the octagon. I want to explore the lesbian romance but give enough action for the people to enjoy. ALSO choreographing the fight scene. My comic isn't like those dragonball-esque style where they do they do lightning fast strikes or just shoot kame-hame waves to each other. They are doing technical fighting so I have to endlessly research the moves and think "hmmm... does this counter feasible to that move? What will the do next once they do that?" Updating one page bides me time to work on that but it is a challenge.
ShaRose49
Probably in learning how much more effective it is to show rather than to tell. I keep trying to get better at that, like with showing a character’s face instead of also telling them exactly how they feel every time, or featuring an image alongside a brief explanation of something, so the image (or images) partially explains for itself. http://sunstrikeandbluemist.thecomicseries.com/
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July 20th-July 26th, 2019 Creator Babble Archive
The archive for the Creator Babble chat that occurred from July 20th, 2019 to July 26th, 2019. The chat focused on the following question:
If you had to pick any song, what would be your comic’s theme song and why?
ShaRose49
I would want my comic’s theme song to be an original song written specifically about the characters. But if I had to pick a theme song right now, I’m not sure which one would suit it exactly. Something punk-rock. I do have songs in my head sometimes that I think of as sort of theme songs for certain characters, like how “Natural” By Imagine Dragons would kind of describe Kairo the way he is now, but later on, “Bird With a Broken Wing” by Owl City would describe him much better. For Kat/Sunstrike, maybe “Undefeated” by Skillet, as well as “More” By Matthew West. The only song I can think of for Evan/Bluemist specifically is “Ambivalent” By Eve(edited)
Nutty (Court of Roses)
This is always a loaded question for me because my comic is ABOUT music and I always go overboard when I make theme and character playlists, oooooooooops!!! Of course, like ShaRose, the dream is to have original themes for all my characters, and eventually I would like to hire a musician for that, to help me compose full OSTs for characters and scenes. For example, to promo a comic I love, Rickety Stitch has a key song that follows the narrative, and they have it on their website! https://ricketystitch.com/song For now, I have playlists collecting songs that make me think of all my characters, and those playlists I have linked on my site: http://courtofroses.thecomicseries.com/links/ I suppose if I had to pick songs that encompass Court of Roses as a whole, though, some top contenders would be: --Humors of Oddwood Isle - The Dread Crew of Oddwood (who have a sound that match super close to what I imagine the bards all sound like together) --Knucklehugs (Arm Yourself With Love) - Diablo Swing Orchestra --Drowsy Maggie Punjabi Celtic - The Snake Charmer --Come With Me Now - The Kongos --The Mesopotamians - They Might Be Giants
Respheal
I mostly have character themes, too But these two stand out as overarching story songs for Galebound http://www.galebound.com/: The Everlasting Guilty Crown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGDLBL6z1bs Lifelight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhgDibw7vB4 Key lyrics from the former, translated:
Do people who control and are controlled / One day forget what it means to love / Because of the hatred in their hearts, / And attack others?
and then this feels like it's kinda calling Din out directly
Are those things you tried to protect / The things you truly loved? / You gaze at your hand dyed in crimson / And finally realize the foolishness you have committed,
And then from Lifelight:
Colors weave into a spire of flame / Distant sparks call to a past still unnamed / Bear this torch against the cold of the night / Search your soul and reawaken the undying light!
which I think speaks to Magicians (since, y'know, aura colors), the mistakes of an unknown past that led everyone to this broken present, and the decisions made to ultimately save their world... which, I mean, both songs also have references to the world ending, which, uhhhhhhhhh...well.(edited)
LadyLazuli
One of the few songs that made my jaw drop - the lyrics are almost uncannily perfect for Phantomarine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXUloVYbchg(edited)
Mharz
I don't really have a general theme song for the comic but I have some for the characters. I actually had this as a theme song for Big Sis waaaaaaay before I actually started working on The Angel with Black Wings http://blackwings.mharz.com/ Paradise by Coldplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg the lyrics and melody really suit her so well:
When she was just a girl she expected the world
But it flew away from her reach
So she ran away in her sleep...
Life goes on, it gets so heavy
The wheel breaks the butterfly
This is recent but I picked this as a theme song for Silver: Ghost Lights by Woodkid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_uAicAjh8 The drums at the start of the song makes me imagine Silver walking in an empty hallway walking to somewhere that she only knows. The chorus fits her motives very well:
How ever fast I dance to make the sun shine
I will never fall down
No matter what it takes, I'll try to save the ghost lights
How ever hard I pray to re-make you mine
I will never feel down
No matter what it takes, I'll try to save the ghost lights
who is the ghost light, I wonder So that's for TABW. :'3(edited)
Mharz
For CHAMPS http://champs.mharz.com/ I kinda picked "I Want You to Know" by Zedd and Selena Gomez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67qworViFpY I really enjoy the beat and melody of this one for the comic like it gets you hype to see Jane or Tala fight in the octagon for some reason. Another one I picked is "Battle Symphony" by Linkin Park (rip Chester :'c) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ab595h0AU I think the lyrics suits Jane very well like how I want her psychology should be. Like this lyrics in particular, I feel like it describes Jane in some way:
I got a long way to go
And a long memory
I've been searching for an answer
Always just out of reach
Blood on the floor
Sirens repeat
I've been searching for the courage
To face my enemies
I actually have a song that I've been eyeing recently that I feel suits one of the new characters I introduced in the comic, Katherine. It doesn't have a lyrics but the melody makes me think of a dangerous yet elegant predator which pretty much a good description of her. Barracuda by Noisestorm - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKRRWQq5f5E
AntiBunny
AntiBunny: The Gritty Cit Stories http://antibunny.net/ would certainly be suited by Jazz. Probably Gerry Mulligan's Night Lights (first track in the album by the same name). At least for Book 1. Book 2 is probably better suited by Shadows by The Midnight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGwtkJaQ9n0
AntiBunny
Nailbat http://nailbat.antibunny.net/ though would be The Dark Knight by Hanz Zimmer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-wAvbxB7D8&pbjreload=10 or the '89 Batman theme by Danny Elfman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZAk2rfESU
AntiBunny
When I get to Gritty City Stories book 3, I'm aiming for something more upbeat. like this. Explorers by The Midnight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wdZRSLJvPg I like to make each book a new jumping on point, so it also marks a change of pace. Thus why I think each book kind of needs a different theme to encapsulate it.
Draco Plato (KhyatiX)
I made an intro for Zenchav https://youtu.be/eF0xyyy5_RA
I'll probably need to make another one at some point ~ http://khyatix.com/ If I could use ANY song regardless of copyright maybe the Attack on Titan first opening, it's so bad ass, lol.
Steph (@grandpaseawitch)
I have but one song for The Old Man and the Sea Witch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl3Ce3XJSD8
ezzy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29c_KyNdcTI THIS ONE i listened to this on repeat all through conception
Desnik
For my comic http://ask-a-warlock.tumblr.com/, I would definitely choose Honky Tonk of Wermland by Detektivbyrån as an opening salvo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeXK0I_lPPQ (Everything Detektivbyrån is great if you're into background instrumental type music)
mintandvanilla
I have a LOT of playlists for Tarot Tournament but this is the one I could see as a theme song of sorts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-XbVY1T4WI
keii4ii
Heart of Keol is definitely this one. My story is about life-changing relationships, and it's slow burn. Just like this song (the lyrics don't start until like, 2:25... see what I mean about slow burn?). Bonus: the official music video features lots of GLOWING THINGS just like my comic! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzNvk80XY9s
Sorry y'all, i apparently only listen to weird indie bands that don't have their music available anywhere except for spotify, so I have a spotify link. The song I ultimately decided on for Ingress Adventuring Company was Her Locket on a Chain by Friendly Savages. I listen to this one a lot when i want to get in the comic mood. https://open.spotify.com/track/7iT6V4scygJz4kfcJvfALQ?si=8yXK4v12QzaJThU1NOlf3Q
MJ Massey
For Black Ball I envisioned an Electro Swing aesthetic. If it ever had an opening sequence, it'd be to Lone Digger by Caravan Palace https://open.spotify.com/track/0thLhIqWsqqycEqFONOyhu?si=MhX6OpH3SVeGUEnw-B1c1A
@AntiBunny I love The Midnight! Glad to know someone else who listens to them
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